Breaking: Japan is evacuating.

That's possible. Although I've never seen estimates of the magnitude of the explosion (a steam explosion, not nuclear) that would occur if / when the hot slag hits the water table. I am somewhat surprised we don't seem to have any such events yet. Have they succeeded by some other means of keeping it out of the water?

So I don't know where Gorbachev got his estimate that all Europe would be uninhabitable. I would like to see that calculation.

Another interesting question is why so little was done in the first days. Where was the huge international mobilization? And I don't mean the US Navy running away!

thats exacly what we are all concerned about.

conspirathy is in full spread out of the fear.

nukeplants existed before the georgia guide stones ... i hope oO

I thought this as well. Not understating the size of the catastrophe Japan has suffered, but it seems his reaction is over the top. Do people get out their video cameras and have a break down when this stuff happens? He has victim mentality.

GAY

Also his apartment looks EXACTLY like it did in the other videos posted over 9 months ago. Now maybe he's just very neat. If I took videos a few weeks apart, the background would not look identical.

something always wicked this way comes, we always persist........as for the smart ones, thats a different story, i think this deal with japan is the new "brain-drain", i mean think about it, if anyone could out think, re manufacture and out resource hostile forces with superior technology, it would be the japanese, in the early 1800's japan didnt even know of the warfare uses of gunpowder, by the end of the 1800's they were teaching us new tricks of its uses. i mean they brought us the age of the micro-chip, (which many think was back-engineered off of alien technology) i mean lets just say that a hostile alien force sent us a "trojan horse" from downed space craft, if this were true and a attack was imminent, who would be best at figuring out how to beat them? the japanese.

regardless if you believe in this or believe in that, it makes no difference though, this plight in japan has shown us once again that the robots/aliens rule, and humanity has failed, we have to always stay as sheep, and the japanese government, are definitely killing off their own people by keeping them mesmerized with deceit and bullshit propogated by the television and news broadcasts.....and those of you that say fuck 'em, remember, if it werent for the japanese you wouldnt be able to get on your computer and say fuck them without it.

England had a "braindrain" in the 60's 70's many reported it had to do with a manned colony on mars, but who really knows....but here, this is a true "brain-drain"....not to menion a radioactive poisoning of our world, i say evacuate the place and nuke that damn powerplant before this gets any worse.......millions will die from this, along with a 5th of our oceans, if this continues much longer...........i'd rather have a brilliant glow in the dark japanese person in my country as to a dead culture that we lost due politics, propaganda , nor fear, open up the gates, give em detroit, michigan, (54% of the city is vacant)

Come on don't tease us. SHARE the DOOM!!

I think he was a non english speaker who learnt English in Australia. So Australian with an accent. He does sound a little bit Sth African though.

I hope and wish you were right but...

From a scientific point of view, I know your wrong.

There is no way to stop the reactor from melting down after it has melted down and breached primary containment.

It will keep burning through concert and ground until it hits a pocket of water, and then BOOM.


You people should seriously watch the chernobly documentary sometime.

Once you have melt down you must COOL THE FUEL. The Russians dug a tunnel under the reactor and made some sort of cooling room under it while from above they threw thousands upon thousands of lbs of LEAD and boric acid from a helicopter.


Because reactor 3 is MOX and plutonium, it has a kill bubble zone around it. Kill zone meaning any exposure within 50 yards or so = almost instant death.

Russians used thousands of thousands of volunteers called liquidators to first dig under their plant, pilots and crew to toss lead and boric accid from helicopter, and finally 8+ months later the reactor cooled enough that the molten fuel hardened and would not reach water table, it would have if the Russians didn't stop it.


Here they have 6 reactors, no way of tunneling under them because the are all ready to close to the water table, they have more radiation to worry about than chernobly, there is a bigger instant kill zone bubble here.


IMO all those rods have melted down to white hot lava and like sand through and hour glass just burning through ground letting off black smoke until they hit water table.

It might be 3 weeks, in could be 2 months before they burn far enough down, but they will burn down... The concrete containment was breached...


There is no stopping this. No one really knows how bad the explosion is going to be "its never happened before and the variables are different, IE how deep it is ect".

I have seen lots of underground explosions of the Nevada Test site on google. They usually leave huge craters, and in the center radiation is high but there is no fall out because it was just a tiny amount of material used.


In japan, we have tons and tons of plutonium. When it hits water and goes boom, all of the plutonium will go boom at once in a chair reaction. Scientists have no idea how big the blast is going to be.

If I had to guess, its going to be like one of our best hydrogen bomb nukes going off times the weight of the spent fuel, plutonium, and uranium which basically means the entire island of japan is fucked.

This is why we are at war with Libya, secure better strategic control of resources in the world, because we just lost Japan and their electronic money generating economy boosting powerhouse.

IT was a major loss for the allies "Briton, France, Japan" which is why we had to go in and take Libya.

Russia and China are in a very ODD position because they are right next door. And the fallout from this could very well fuck up generations of their youths through genetic mutations and cause hundreds of years of damage to their economy...

China has a huge cheap socialist labor force.. Maybe they will step up and find volunteers to help put out the fire. But that would be china control of Japan, more pressure on the west...



Not looking good in the world right now folks....

lol. Yes. Something is off.

I suspect nothing was done because nothing COULD be done at the time. The US has an enormous strategic investment in Japan, and they have the intel and satellites to determine exactly what is going on at the plants. I would assume if it could be resolved, they would have done so. I have a difficult time believing the US military would allow their bases to be jeopardize by a bunch of suits at TEPCO. This just doesn't make sense to me.

I also find it odd that they struck out at Libya while ignoring this. It is almost as if Libya was in some way retaliation for what occurred in Japan.

From the get-go, we have been given bad information. I don't accept that this thing went into meltdown for the want of some generators. If they could outfit helicopters with lead shielding, I am sure they could have gotten commercial generators brought in and placed on the rooftops.

Since all the information coming out has been handled the same way (contradictions, outright lies, obfuscation, etc.), that leads me to believe that at no time did the situation change, because the handling of it did not change.

I am left to believe that the containment vessels were cracked in the earthquake and there was no way to cool it down, so they didn't even try generators. If they were cracked, circulating water wouldn't help. I believe everything done was merely for show and it was fubar'd from the beginning.

Just my hunch, but I suspect it was a total loss from day one.

i hadnt logged in when i wrote this but i agree, it's the beginning, not to mention a technological "brain-drain", so where ios the third part of this, i mean you know that their usual pattern is always a tri-fecta.

Here is a list of accidents.
[link to www.chris-winter.com]

I think this is why a startlingly high number of people in the US born in the 70's and 80's are turning up sterile/infertile.

GTFU

I just can't fathom why he wouldn't leave, or go out and help his fellow man, who he is so obviously in grief over. His reaction is so oddly different to how mine would be.

Good post. I had a different but related take on Japan / Libya: Thread: Did China give Libya to USA and take Japan?

China does indeed get Japan for what it's worth. The USA has run away. We won't contest Japan, and China consolidates Asia.

Regarding the meltdown to water table, what's taking it so long? A hot slag that could go thru hard containment should be able to slice thru normal soil and rock like a knife thru butter, I'd think. Why haven't we seen a huge steam explosion from it already?

you people will believe anything.

Sup, Gulf Cooooast! How you folks holdin' up over there? It doesn't bode well for the Gulf at all, and the folks who live there are going to continue to get pretty ill as time passes. I did some research on the Exxon Valdez spill, and I found out that the workers (save a few) all died before they turned fifty (or didn't live past fifty-five, can't remember which). I believe maybe two - at least one- lived to fifty-five. But they were all sick from the chemicals used in the spill clean-up (namely Corexit).

In the Gulf's case, that same chemical is what's going to do it again. They're culling the earth's population, but most of the people aren't awake to what's going on. Japan's gettin' theirs. Their average life-span's going to take a dive, that's for sure.

I COULDN'T EVEN TAKE MORE THAN 30 SECS OF THE GAYNESS
SO GAY

He mentions being caught outside while going to the market. The rain got on him and then he came up with the sores. The goverment is telling them not to worry its all ok but just be on the safe side and tape your windows and doors up and stay inside for awhile at least the next 24 hours. yea, right.. I went to the live web cams that are all over Tokyo and where it is usally busy it is now pretty empty. All over Japan the live cams if they are up are bare of people and animals.

they do have the technology to tunnel under it,they have tunneling machines that have built all of the underground bases in the u.s. and europe, that can tunnel 5 to 15 miles worth of rock each day, they are built in england, and they resemble the machine used in the movie "the core".........we have the tech, they just wanna kill everyone instead....it's an elitist effort, what they need is a humanitarian effort......heres the link to pictures of the tunneling machines :

[link to www.google.com]

dont hate me because im a humanist.

can't tunnel because of the shallow water table and the ground is full of volcanic tubes.

it is stress. that can cause pimples and all sorts of skin problems.

where`s all our real whistle blowers, the truth holders,time to tell before the masses die from the prolonged exposure.

No way he's South African. Sarfies tend to intermix their English with some Afrikaans slang. He looks mixed race part Jap though so he's probably not got that pukka settler Aussie twang (sounds Aussie enough to me bar a few words). Which probably accounts for why he is so torn over the country's plight.

Am no shill, but I cant believe that You Tube Vid. That voice over by God only knows who, adds lots of extra tears and emotion in that any interpreter would not add. Not professional, and a real drama act.

I smell BS on this video. But I believe the situation in Japan is serious.

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How cum Japanese Movies/U tube videos voice do not match what the person is speaking?


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