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Before I didn't want anyone to know who I was, but it doesn't matter now.

You make a lot of sense, but this discrepancy is too big to ignore. Please explain.

2. I'm in my 40s, and we usually die earlier than normal people.
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I'm 29.
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Our Spiritual Declaration: Abraham

Chapter 5: Abraham

Abram's Ancestors

1. Noah's son, Shem, fathered Arphaxad 2 years after the flood.

2. Arphaxad fathered Eber. Eber refused to help with the construction of the Tower of Babel; because of this Eber retained his original language.

3. Eber fathered Peleg. The language of Babylon was divided at this time.

4. Peleg fathered Reu.

5. Reu fathered Serug. Since this family lived in Babel for a long time they adopted the Nephilim-like ways of the area, starting with Serug.

6. Serug fathered Terah. Terah also followed in the Nephilim ways of Lucifer.

Abram
7. Terah fathered Abram who lived in Ur, and from an early age he refused to worship idols. His father turned the young Abram over to King Nimrod for execution because of Abram's refusal of idol worship. Sabaoth saved Abram from the furnace, and his father believed in Sabaoth afterwards.

8. Abram left from Ur to Hanan then to Canaan Sabaoth promised Abram that he would give this land to Abram's offspring, and so it occurred even until the present time, as the Israelis and Arabs, the descendents of Abram, jointly occupy this area.

9. A famine stuck the area, and Abram traveled to Egypt for relief. He soon had to leave; because the Pharaoh took to Abram's wife Sarah. Abram had told the Egyptians that Sarah was his sister so they wouldn't kill him out of jealously. Pharaoh took Sarah and was struck with a plague. Pharaoh later discovered that Sarah was Abram's wife and exiled Abram and his followers out of Egypt.

10. Abram then returned to Canaan Lot, Abram's nephew, had made these travels with Abram, but people within their own groups began to quarrel with each other. So Abram decided that they should split up and offered Lot the first pick of where to leave to. Lot settled near Sodom. and Abram stayed in Canaan.

11. Abram had to fight the men in the Sodom area once to rescue Lot Abram refused tribute from the King of Sodom; because he was already rich and wasn't very interested in material things – he was enlightened.

12. Yaldabaoth appeared to Abram to persuade him away from Sabaoth. Yaldabaoth took Abram up into the 7th Heaven the same way it had taken Enoch. Abram was in awe and prayed to Yaldabaoth saying that its look is like lightning (see Chapter 2:4). He expounded and recited a prayer for Yaldabaoth. The prayer showed the prideful and envious ways of Yaldabaoth.

13. Abram also observed how Yaldabaoth's angels compete with each other for praise by other creatures.

14. Yaldabaoth showed Abram the future and the coming of Jesus and Mohammed to lead his descendents. Yaldabaoth wouldn't speak a bad word about either of the prophets; because it wanted to take credit for them, when in reality the prophets were sons of Sabaoth.

15. Yaldabaoth later instructed Abram to circumcise all males and for Abram to change his name to Abraham.

Circumcision
16. Circumcision is an invention by Yaldabaoth, the untrue god. Yaldabaoth set up circumcision so it knows how far its influence still spreads. Yaldabaoth can't read the mind of anyone just as it couldn't tell where Adam was hiding in the Garden of Eden. Circumcised men are physical symbols of a parent's allegiance to Yaldabaoth. This symbol comes at the complete expense and pain of the child, which is consistent with Yaldabaoth's nature, as it hates children.

17. "For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love." -Galatians 5:6

18. "For neither they themselves who are circumcised keep the law; but desire to have you circumcised, that they may glory in your flesh." -Galatians 6:13

19. "For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature. -Galatians 6:15

20. "His disciples said to Jesus: Is circumcision profitable or not? Jesus said to them: Were it profitable, their father would beget them from their mother circumcised. But the true circumcision in spirit has proved entirely profitable." -Gospel of Thomas 53

21. So you see circumcision of the flesh doesn't matter at all, but circumcision of the spirit (not going to extremes) is what matters.

After Sodom and Gomorrah
22. After the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, Lot and his two daughters settled in a cave. Believing all of humanity had been destroyed, the two daughters persuaded Lot to drink wine until he passed out, and they fornicated with their father. Both had children, one named Moab, ancestor of the Moabites, and Benammi, ancestor to the people of Ammon.

23. When Abraham was 100 years old his wife Sarah gave birth to Isaac (which means laughter), and this came to be at the time God said it would occur. Isaac was the next generation of the Untainted Family.

24. The untrue god, Yaldabaoth, spoke to Abraham and told him to offer his son Isaac as a sacrifice. Yaldabaoth did this as an attempt to stop the Untainted Family from continuing. The prideful, sinful nature of Yaldabaoth demands human sacrifice and hates children.

25. Abraham lied to Isaac by telling him they were to go to a mountaintop and sacrifice a lamb. Just as Abraham was about to sacrifice Isaac, the true God, Sabaoth, spoke to Abraham and told him not to do this, that his faith had been proven. Sabaoth promised Abraham, "I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven.” This promise proved true, but Yaldabaoth would see to it the descendents of Abraham war continually with each other, as they do till this day.

26. Sarah passed away at age 127.

27. Abraham saw to it Isaac married. Abraham himself remarried Keturah.

28. Abraham passed away at age 175 and left most of his possessions to Isaac.

29. "There is for you an excellent example to follow in Abraham and those with him,. . ." –Quran 60:4 Abraham's example is in his refusal of idol worship, in his devotion to the one and only true God, and his simple yet uplifting, influential life.
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Wow. Cool story, bro. lmfao

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Our Spiritual Declaration: The Tower of Babel; Sodom and Gomorrah

Chapter 6: The Tower of Babel; Sodom and Gomorrah

The Tower of Babel

1. Noah's son, Ham, fathered Cush who fathered Nimrod. Nimrod was a strong-willed man who ruled the kingdom of which Babel was a part. Babylon and Nineveh developed from in this kingdom.

2. Yaldabaoth's influence was strong among the Babylonians. They worshiped Yaldabaoth under the name Ea or Enki. Many Nephilim settled in this area. Lucifer, son of Yaldabaoth, was worshiped under the name Marduk.

3. The Babylonians decided to build a tower to honor Lucifer and show defiance of Sabaoth. They worked frantically for 43 years on the tower. It was by far the tallest structure of this time.

4. Standing on top of the tower, was a statue of Lucifer with sword in hand, as if he were about to strike a blow to Heaven.

5. Sabaoth knew a structure of this size would keep people loyal to Lucifer due to the sheer awe the Tower of Babel invoked.

6. Sabaoth's nature is never to mete out severe punishment so he confused the language of the local people by splitting their single language into 72 different languages.

7. Then lightning destroyed the statue of Lucifer, and this was intended as a message to the Babylonians to never again worship Lucifer. A massive wind toppled the tower, and the people couldn't rebuild it; because they lacked communication with each other.

8. This event in Babylon isn't why we have many languages today. The act of confusing the language affected a small area, and many of the languages were lost in time. The languages of the world were already split at this moment in history. The Tower of Babel event does teach as an important lesson, communication is one of the first obstacles to conquer in order for humanity's ambitions to be realized.

9. These cities weren't the first cities on Earth. Pengtoushan, Mureybet, Tell Abu Hureyra, Eridu, Jericho, and many other cities existed before this time, and in fact, existed before the Garden of Eden.

Sodom and Gomorrah
10. Yaldabaoth sent three angels to Earth who appeared to Abraham and told him of the coming destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. Yaldabaoth was to destroy these places; because they were inhabited by Nephilim and worshiped Lucifer – the same way the Tower of Babel's builders did.

11. Abraham pleaded against the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah but to no avail.

12. Two of the angels went to Sodom, and one stayed with Abraham.

13. The two angels entered Sodom and encountered Lot. Lot invited them into his house to stay as guests. Before Lot and his compnany fell asleep the men of Sodom surrounded the house and demanded the angels come out so the men could rape them.

14. Lot was horrified and offered his two virgin daughters if the Sodomities left the angels untouched. The men of Sodom relented and were struck blind.

15. The angels told Lot to flee, which he did, and Sodom and Gomorrah was completely destroyed.

16. This is an example of how differently Sabaoth and Yaldabaoth deal with obstacles. Sabaoth, the true way to God, rarely kills. Yaldabaoth, the false god, releases wrath and punishment on a horrible scale. This is how you can tell who's letting out punishment.

17. One of the most misunderstood stories of Old Testament is Sodom and Gomorrah. As you can read in earlier chapters, the most unpardonable sin is for humans and angels to breed. Angels are androgynous by nature so there really are no male or female angels. When the men of Sodom lusted after these angels, even after knowing they were angels, the men were under the influence of Lucifer.

18. In Chapter 2 Lucifer persuaded angels to breed with women who produced Nephilim and tainted humanity. Men breeding with angels would not impregnate angels, but this act would taint angelhood. Tainting anglehood would have been more unpardonable than tainting humanity. Genesis 6:4 mentions angel/human breeding resulting in Nephilim. As punishment Yaldabaoth destroyed the entire area where these men existed.
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Our Spiritual Declaration: Seeds of Hinduism

Chapter 7: The Seeds of Hinduism

1. Around the time of Abraham, the seeds of Hinduism were sprouting in India.

2. Hinduism quickly realized the importance of prayer. As in Islam, prayer for Hindus is a cleansing of the soul.

3. Hinduism sprang forth from religious texts called Vedas, which number over 1000 books. In some ancient Hindu and other civilizations, we find a sculpture called the Great Mother. The Great Mother is Sophia (Wisdom) who is pregnant – pregnant with Yaldabaoth.

Dharma
4. Dharma is the code of conduct according to the Vedas. Dharma is the glue of a stable society and its advancement.

5. Manu set forth ten rules to carry out dharma. . .

6. Dhriti (patience) which is comparable to Romans 5:3-4, "And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience; and patience experience and experience hope". Hope is the nature of Pistis (Faith).

7. Kshama (forgiveness) was a central theme of Jesus, "But I say unto you, love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you." –Matthew 5:44

8. Dama (self control) parallels Titus 2:12, "Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world".

9. Asteya (honesty) parallels "Ye shall not steal, neither deal falsely, neither lie to another." –Leviticus 19:11

10. Shauch (sanctity) "And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart." –Jeremiah 29:13

11. Indraiya-nigrah (mastery over our senses) "He that is slow to anger is better than the mighty; and he that ruleth his spirit than he that taketh a city." –Proverbs 16:32

12. Dhi (reason) "Evil men understand not judgment: but they that seek the Lord understand all things." –Proverbs 28:5

13. Vidya (knowledge) "Wise men lay up knowledge: but the mouth of the foolish is near destruction." –Proverbs 10:14

14. Satya (truthfulness) "The lip of truth shall be established for ever: but a lying tongue is but for a moment." –Proverbs 12:19

15. Krodha (peace) "Mark the perfect man, and behold the upright and for the end of that man is peace."

16. This is the path of Sabaoth to Pistis/Sophia.

Reincarnation
17. God plants you upon the earth to bring about happiness, but if you fail to walk the right path you are pulled up and reseeded.

18. You get what you most wanted in your last life to teach the "inner you" the lesson that wishes in the material world are only the beginnings of true happiness.

19. You are reborn until you reach enlightenment and follow Sabaoth to Pistis/Sophia (Faith/Knowledge) as the Ancients (Buddha, Jesus, Swedenborg, Zarathustra, and the others in the Ranks of the Righteous) have.

20. You can be enlightened yet choose to be reborn for the purpose of helping others. These people are known as Bodhisattvas (such as Jesus).

21. The abuse of free will is the main cause of reincarnation.

22. Wanton abuse of free will leads to reincarnation as something with no free will.

23. The reason we exist is because we were created out of loneliness, a craving for worship, and to imprison the spirit - all relating to Yaldabaoth. If you worship Yaldabaoth by clinging to this world you will be reincarnated, and Yaldabaoth will present reincarnation as a gift, since your new life will have what you most coveted in your last life – the one quality you thought would have completed your life

24. If you refuse to worship Yaldabaoth and its ways it will refuse to return you to this world since you no longer quell its need – Yaldabaoth's need of worship.

25. If you choose to be evil, then you reincarnate until you learn to better yourself.

26. If you still walk the Path of Humanity (knowledge & wisdom, wealth, jealousy (self-improvement), kingship, deity, lordship) then you'll continue to reincarnate.

27. Knowledge and wisdom is the beginning of the path. Interest in only knowledge and wisdom leads to reincarnation; because they lack firmness, and the nature of knowledge is ever-changing. Knowledge is the core. If knowledge and wisdom leads to wealth (whether material or spiritual) then you've taken a right step. If you treat knowledge and wisdom as ends unto themselves, by failing to apply, them you suffer reincarnation. Treating knowledge and wisdom as ends unto themselves is like grasping for the wind.

28. Wealth as an end unto itself leads to reincarnation. Read the words of Jesus, "And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God". (Matthew 19:24) If you have the wealth of one hundred men, then one hundred men go without.

29. If you are wealthy and content then you have erred. If wealth has made you jealous and you seek to better yourself with your wealth then you have taken a right step. Wealth for the sake of wealth leads to evil.

30. If jealousy leads to the destruction of others then you have walked the wrong path. If jealousy leads to self-improvement then you have taken the right path.

31. Eventually, this will lead to kingship, or authority over the bodies of others. If you use authority for self service then you have taken the wrong path. If you use kingship for the betterment of others then you have taken the right path.

32. This will soon lead to power over not just the bodies of but the minds of others. Then you are seen like a deity. If this influence is used to worship lower things such as the creator of this Earth, Yaldabaoth, then you have taken the wrong path. If you use this to improve others, then you have taken the right path.

33. Finally, you will have lordship over all, and this will lead to the true God, Sabaoth. This is true enlightenment. Here you either choose to reincarnate to help others as a Bodhisattva or continue to thrive for Pistis/Sophia. Then there are those who regress to lower things.

34. God doesn't send anyone to Hell. People go there on their own accord. Hell appears like a utopian paradise with the promise you can sin forever with no retribution. You are tempted into staying by trappings from this world such as seeing passed away relatives and material possessions from this - the material world. People in near-death experiences speak of such a place, but it is a deception.

35. People in Hell are happy at first, but with total anarchy they become victims of sin. Like with all sinning it is pleasing for the doer at first, but then the sins of others begins to affect you. This is the first level of Hell. Soon the utopian paradise turns into its true form: you build a shelter only for it to be taken by others, you find companionship only to be betrayed, your clothing turns ragged, the ground is covered with ice, fire blankets the sky, and smoke clouds your vision.

36. One may still reincarnate after bad karma is exhausted through torture, but if the bad karma is so heavy the spirit sinks to the second level of Hell. In the second level of Hell you drink water out of thirst, but it is the water of forgetfulness. After drinking you forget about all things in the past and the spirit sinks lower until the bad karma is exhausted by torture.

Hindu Worship
37. Four main entities in Hindu worship are Brahman, Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva.

Brahman
38. Brahman is equated with Pistis/Sophia. Brahman pervades everything in the universe.

39. Pistis (Faith) doesn't just mean faith in the normal sense of faith in religion. It is the faith of the universe to continue functioning as it does. It is the faith of time to continue, the faith of space to hold its form, the faith which Einstein called "spooky interaction at a distance".

Brahma
40. Brahma is equated with Yaldabaoth. Like Yaldabaoth, Brahma is the creator of the universe and matter. Brahma fails at being worshiped by many Hindus, which is the correct thing to do. It makes little sense to some not to adhere to the creator of Earth, but it is the right thing to do because of the egotistic and flawed nature of Brahma/Yaldabaoth.

41. The nature of the world and its creator is summarized by Jesus, "Whoever has come to know the world has discovered a carcass, and whoever has discovered a carcass, of that person the world is not worthy." –Gospel of Thomas 56

Vishnu
42. Vishnu is equated with Sabaoth. He is the sustainer and provider.

43. Vishnu/Sabaoth's vehicle is the eagle. (see Chapter 3)

Shiva
44. Shiva is the spirit that enters into people such as Jesus, Buddha, Mohammed, Mani, Socrates, Zoroaster, Swedenborg, Sartre, and many others.

45. Shiva has the third eye, an important sign of spiritual knowledge.

46. Shiva is known as the destroyer or transformer; because usually when it enters into the body of a human to spread enlightenment, the knowledge that came before is destroyed or transformed into a more refined knowledge, since the advancement of mankind demands a more detailed knowledge.

Caste System
47. The caste system society in Hinduism is a perfect example why religion and government should must remain separate and one protected from each other. To use knowledge of religion and apply it to the government of the people as a whole, rather than to people as individuals, is to abuse free will, which in God's view is the most unpardonable sin. This is exerting the free will of one person on millions of people. Every single event in history which has caused suffering can be traced back to one person exercising free will over another. The point at which religion and government intersects has proven to be the most destructive point in mankind's short history.
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OP: For the sake of clarification, how are the ideas you're promoting on this thread different from the typical Rosicrucian/Freemason beliefs of creation and cosmology? From my point of view, they are exactly the same.
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They're similar but not the same. A personal twist has been put on them. Spiritual beliefs need updated. Government, society, wealth, knowledge all change but religion rarely changes. Inflexible religion is one major reason so many are turned off to it today.

OP: For the sake of clarification, how are the ideas you're promoting on this thread different from the typical Rosicrucian/Freemason beliefs of creation and cosmology? From my point of view, they are exactly the same.
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Our Spiritual Declaration: Message to Atheists

When science explains a phenomena some are quick to claim a religious belief has been disproven. Realize if humans can explain HOW an unusual event happened its relation with God isn't negated. The explaination merely shows us how God made such a thing occur.

The most debated topic is Creationism. Of course the Earth is older than 6,000 years or even a million years. Observe how for the Hindu creator, Brahma, one day and night equals 8.6 billion years. And we understand the faster an object travels the slower time progresses for said object when compared to stationary objects. So you see how time for a being with knowledge constantly spaning the universe could pass at a different rate.

Read in Genesis that on the first day God allowed light to the Earth's surface, which occured approximately 4.5 billion years ago. Genesis mentions the Earth was formless, as Earth's core was degassing and ever-changing. On the second day, God separated the water from the atmosphere, occurring around 4 billion years ago. On the third day, dry land appeared, then plants, around 530 million years ago. On the fourth day, the stars, sun, moon, and other celestial objects could be seen - a clear sky more familiar to us. This was essential for seasons, calendars, and fixed objects in space (heavens). The presence of oxygen was needed for human life to develop. Shifting of the continents would play an important role when considering constellations for navigation, and this took place around 200 million years ago. On the fifth day, the living creatures, the ancestors to current life, were created in the sea and land. Genesis mentions the creation of birds as well. This occured 65 million years ago. Finally, on the sixth day, man was created as Adam – which has a two-fold meaning. 200,000 years ago modern humans began to develop (see Chapter 3).

Many believe Eden means 'walled garden', and some interpret this as Eden being located in a volcano. However, this was a subtle way of telling us about cavemen. Ignorance is bliss, and as long as humans remained in caves and nomadic we were doomed to live in this blissful ignorance (paradise). The "walled garden" relates to caves of cavemen who ate the apple and sustained themselves. Eating the apple is symbolic of humans learning how to live off the land, therefore being able to settle in one area. Now humans had time to ponder philosophy and eventually develop a civilization. The serpent being made to crawl on the ground and be crushed by humans is symbolic of dinosaurs evolving into the creatures of today (they lost size and mobility). Humans realized animals could live off the land so why not humans themselves? This is how the serpent told Eve to eat the apple.

The reason God (or knowledgeable huamns) related the history of creation and evolution to man in the manner He did in Genesis is because when communicating you must consider the audience. God was relating Genesis to a very simple people. To tell the outright truth would have confused humans entirely, and they wouldn't believe it. Now humans yearn for the truth. Too much fighting and suffering has taken place over the book of Genesis, fighting which was never meant to be.

Remember, science is only the beginning, and faith is the end. The two complement each other, connect together, and find complete understanding in the middle. You don't need to believe in a manifested, physical God. Just believe in an underlying logic and pattern in the universe. At least then you will be on the beginning to the path of humanity. To believe humans are the most advanced beings in existence is arrogant. Many atheists suffer from the same bad trappings as the religious extremists do – they focus too much on the messenger and not enough on the message. To do so destroys the point of religion and spirituality – to offer guidance in life – not to prove or disprove the existence of God.

If there were no God, as God being defined as the underlying workings of all existence, then we would cease to exist. So no matter how limited and basic and how barely our existence came to be – whether the universe is completely perfect or barely organized – there is an underlying logic and pattern to it. The notion that this underlying logic is merely subjective and all exists in the minds of man alone . . . is the apex of human arrogance.

To ask if this God deserves worship, first deserves the question of how does one define worship. The best form of worship is to emulate the object of worship. So God being that which brings order to chaos, that would be the best way to worship God, to bring order to chaos, which should always be the goal of religion.

If God is the underlying workings of the universe and man can understand those workings and even manipulate them, then isn't man superior to God is some aspect? This idea also shows great arrogance. Remember that science and knowledge are only beginnings and always leave more questions than answers. When we become prideful and content with our knowledge we fall behind. The clock of knowledge only started several thousand years ago and has only ticked a few times when it's destined to tick thousands of times. Remember one of the most important lessons of Socrates, "I am the wisest man alive, for I know one thing, and that is that I know nothing."
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So you're an Elitist. Are you married?
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I really don't care about your Elitist games. I'm just wondering if you're married..
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I'm single n always will be.

So you're an Elitist. Are you married?
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Why is that? Are you gay?
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1111 when it's all said and done do you think you will be able to come to the realization that you are brainwashed? There are a few handful that have been capable of steering clear of the bs this world supports. Question is.... Do you wish to live a lie or a genuine life...
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T' is late her. I am tired and my phone is about to die. I leave you with that question. Take care c
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"If there were no God, as God being defined as the underlying workings of all existence, then we would cease to exist. So no matter how limited and basic and how barely our existence came to be – whether the universe is completely perfect or barely organized – there is an underlying logic and pattern to it. The notion that this underlying logic is merely subjective and all exists in the minds of man alone . . . is the apex of human arrogance."

Darkness, while I applaud this statement, Sartre certainly wouldn't, so why do you rank him among your "elevated beings" list?
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You see he is right most people are slaves to the external stimuli to bill payments mortgages wars etc etc. however. We technically can break FREE from this world system that isn't new st all. Been around thousands of years. Give everything you own to the poor and follow God through prayer. The illusion is this world you see the truth is God that we don't see.
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These elitist don't realize the true elitists are out there with the truth the formula and the backing from Creator.
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Sartre made ppl think. Even if I don't 100% agree w/ what he said, Sartre is an "elevated being" for making ppl pause and deeply think.

"If there were no God, as God being defined as the underlying workings of all existence, then we would cease to exist. So no matter how limited and basic and how barely our existence came to be – whether the universe is completely perfect or barely organized – there is an underlying logic and pattern to it. The notion that this underlying logic is merely subjective and all exists in the minds of man alone . . . is the apex of human arrogance."

Darkness, while I applaud this statement, Sartre certainly wouldn't, so why do you rank him among your "elevated beings" list?
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Our Spiritual Declaration: Major Spiritual Issues (4000BC-1750BC)

Chapter 8: Major Spiritual Issues (4000BC-1750BC)

Ancient Chinese Beliefs

1. Before the time of Abraham, God (Sabaoth) intervened in Asia. The Divine Light was found in Fu Xi who taught the Chinese people the ways of writing, fishing, cooking, and other peaceful means of existence.

2. Nüwa was the wife of Fu Xi. This couple is comparable to an Adam and Eve for Eastern Asia. Some sculptures show them as being joined together much the same way Adam and Eve were of one spirit.

3. Fu Xi and Nüwa were free of Nephilim influence. They cultivated civilization in this area of the world in the manner Adam and Eve cultivated civilization in the Middle East.

4. Shennong also released his inner Divine Light and educated the Chinese on agriculture, specializing in the medicinal value of herbs.

Meat Consumption
5. Chinese were taught agriculture, and Hindus turned away from eating meat because God had foreknowledge of the upcoming events on Earth. Land must be cleared for animals to graze upon, and the Chinese and Indians were to populate abundantly so God directed these cultures to prefer vegetables over meat.

6. The modern average American consumes over 200 pounds of meat per year. If the Chinese and Indians had developed a taste for meat comparable to Americans, then we would have over two billion people consuming meat on par with Americans. The struggle for grazing land would have lead to war after war in Asia. For this reason God swayed Asians from meat.

7. In present times a strain has been placed upon the Earth due to our overpopulating and habit of eating meat. Our duty as civil beings is to consume as little meat as possible; because meat comes from animals which graze on cleared land, and from this clearing our planet cannot withstand.

The Code of Hammurabi
8. In Babylonia the Code of Hammurabi was set up to give structure to a savage society.

9. The death penalty was used as punishment for many infringements upon the law. If you accused someone of a crime which could result in death yet you couldn't prove the accusation, then you would be put to death. Stealing from the temple resulted in death, stealing a slave resulted in death, robbery was meet with death.

10. The heart of humanity was still hard at this point in time and society fragile, but since Hammurabi the heart of humanity has grown softer. Modern society is mature enough to abolish the death penalty. For a government to form a collective will and decide the death of another being is a blatant abuse of free will, which is the most unpardonable sin of man.

Blood
11. Blood is the link between families. The family is the only natural institution, and blood has come to play an important role in our society.

12. God instructed Noah not to consume blood. In Judaism, Islam, Christianity, and many other religions consuming blood is a taboo. Drinking blood produces the byproduct of ammonia which affects the liver. Because of this God instructed us to not drink blood.

13. During the Last Supper, Jesus told his disciples to drink wine, "For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for the remission of sins." This is recreated in Catholic rituals, but the symbolism behind it has become diminished. Jesus said the bread was his flesh and the wine was his blood the meaning here is that just as bread and wine sustains us, so did the teachings (the new testament) of Jesus. Without the teachings of Jesus, Western civilization would have fallen into chaos, much the way Arab civilization would have fallen into chaos without Mohammed

14. To think that wine becomes the literal blood of Jesus is a bizarre idea. The blood of Jesus is a symbol for his teachings. Remember that the true God (Sabaoth) is the sustainer and provider.

15. Some Christians refuse blood transfusions and refuse to give blood. Leviticus 3:17 states to not eat blood and some take this passage as meaning no blood of another in the body at all. Leviticus 17:11 tells us the life of the flesh is in the blood. Bearing that in mind, and applying the Golden Rule, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" one may see that the gift of life is one of the most valuable gifts of all to give and to receive.

16. Before you experience death, if it's an untimely death, of how much your body tries to keep the spirit contained – there is no more powerful feeling. Give your blood as often as possible. Next to knowledge and good memories blood is the most lasting gift you give to others.

Light
17. Light, in many religious texts, is a symbol for showing a correct path. Light is mentioned by Jesus in Matthew 5:15-16 "Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house. Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in Heaven." This means if you know the path to God, then you should serve as an example to others. You don't turn on a lamp and place it under the bed, likewise when you have knowledge you should shine it upon everyone. He who denies you knowledge envisions himself as your master. When you have wealth spread it around.

18. Mohammed gave a great parable relating to light, as in a lightning storm. In the Quran 2:19-20, "Of darkness, and thunder and lightning: They press their fingers in their ears to keep the stunning thunderclap, the while they are in terror of death. But Allah is ever round the rejecters of Faith! The lightning all but snatches away their sight; every time the light helps them, they walk therein, and when the darkness grows on them, they stand still, and if Allah willed, He could take away their faculty of hearing and seeing; for Allah hath power over all things!" This parable was directed to the unwise. They go through life with their fingers in their ears (ignoring faith and knowledge); their way in life is lit only briefly by lightning which blinds them (when the unwise have faith or knowledge cast upon them, they turn away), and they stand still again.

19. Buddha gave us a beautiful parable relating to light. To paraphrase it: Thousands of candles can be lighted from a single candle, and the life of the candle will not be shortened. Thus is the nature of wisdom, faith, knowledge, inspiration, and all good things. Producing good in the world will offer no guarantee of bettering or worsening your own life, but it will make the world you live in brighter.

20. Light is good, but the direction in which it points makes the difference. Just as Lucifer means "Light Bearer" he had the best capacity for wisdom and knowledge (the Divine Light), yet used the Light against its own Creators, as he rebelled against all.

Darkness
21. Darkness is the absence of light. This is important because without darkness how would one define light? Without ignorance how would one define knowledge? Without evil how would one know good?

22. Darkness is essential in life because it illuminates nothing and leaves us alone with our thoughts. In time of crisis, darkness pervades and the unknown comes about so you have no more distractions, and the only light you have is your inner light, which you cannot see, yet it still leads your path.

23. All great discoveries begin in darkness. It is something to be accepted and not feared because where there is darkness there is a need for light. And the longer one lingers in darkness the brighter the light will be.

Original Sin
24. The original sin of man, according to some, was eating the apple from the Tree of Knowledge. This is not a sin at all! The knowledge of right and wrong gave man free will, creativity, and the ability to perceive what should exist yet does not exist.

25. This is consistent with the ways of Pistis/Sophia (Faith/Wisdom) and with Sabaoth (the true God). The god of creation, Yaldabaoth, trapped the Divine Light within our bodies, as to make it easier for us to worship its creations (the material world) rather than superior creations, which are knowledge and wisdom.26. Eating the apple from the Tree of Knowledge was the beginning of the end for our bodies; because eventually we will shed them.

Women's Rights
27. Eve (women) were brought upon the Earth to correct the errors of men. (see Chapter 3:11)

28. The Quran reads, "And their Lord hath accepted of them, and answered them, '. . . Never will I suffer to be lost the work of any of you, be (they) male or female: Ye are from one another. . .'" –Quran 3:195 This explains how men and women hold equal rank in the eyes of God.

29. "Simon Peter says to them: 'Let Mary go out from our midst, for women are not worthy of life!' Jesus says, 'See, I will draw her so as to make her male so that she also may become a living spirit like you males. For every woman who has become male will enter the Kingdom of heaven.'" –Gospel of Thomas 114 This verse may seem strange, but Jesus was merely referring to making Mary like a man in that she develop what Simon Peter and many people today think of as masculine qualities such as ambition and independence.

Knowledge
30. Knowledge is the first step on the Path of Humanity. In Buddhism correct knowledge is the first trait one must attain for enlightenment. However, with knowledge comes suffering – ". . . and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow." –Ecclesiastes 1:18 With knowledge comes the responsibility of using it properly.

31. The proper application of knowledge leads to wealth, and wealth is to be overcome as quickly as possible.

32. "Nay, here are signs self-evident in the hearts of those endowed with knowledge: and none but the unjust reject our signs." –Quran 29:49 Knowledge is the beginning, and those who are unjust reject knowledge.

The Divine Family
33. The family lineage from Adam to Jesus were given special preference by God; because these people happened to fall in an important place at an influential time, as they were most needed in the areas and times from which they came. Where Asia, Africa, and Europe meet together we call the Middle East, which has had great influence over Western and Arab cultures constituting half the world's population. The Indian, Chinese, Native American, African, and all cultures had their own illuminated souls.

34. The Divine intervenes when humanity is unable or unwilling to follow a correct path. During the worst moments in history, God will provide a teacher.

Murder
35. "Thou shall not kill" is made clear in the Old Testament, yet confused by the untrue god, Yaldabaoth, in which mob mentality – the will of the people – is able to kill another human. To kill another human is to impose your will upon another for eternity. This is the infinitely dark sin. The tendency to believe that if a group of people decide a fellow human should die, that this somehow divides up the consequences, is an illusion. As this is an infinitely evil sin, the infinite cannot be divided up, no matter the amount of people in favor of a death.

36. Jesus said, "And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell." This is to warn us against what can destroy our soul – an incorrect lifestyle – which is to be more feared than murder.

37. Jesus explains in Matthew 5:21-26 that murder begins in the heart. So if you are in disagreement with someone, then it should be resolved as quickly as possible. Murder of passion and impulse begins in the heart, as Jesus said. When one contains that feeling of hate in the heart it lurks about and spreads. It will spread to the mind where, if it finds a mind lacking understanding, it will wrap the mind around the murderous passion. A mind with murder at the core is the most dreaded thing and is something which can kill the spirit as well as the body.

38. On the Path of Humanity (Chapter 2:6), murder tangled with knowledge and wisdom leads to premeditated murders. This is a vicious thing which kills without end as found in Henry Lee Lucas & Otis Toole, Pedro Alonso Lopez, Gilles de Rais, Raman Raghav, Yang Zhiya, Moses Sithole, Ivan Robert Marko Milat, and so many other killers throughout history.

39. Murder tangled with wealth leads to killing to sustain wealth and wealth to sustain killing and was the start of events such as World War II for German prosperity, the genocide of the Native Americans for European prosperity, the Mongolian Expansion for Mongolian prosperity, and the violent wars and imperialism in Africa for European prosperity.

40. Jealousy mixed with murder leads to killing another because of their own prosperity and lead to events such as the 9/11 attacks upon America, The Yellow Turban Rebellion, and the murders by Elizabeth Bathory.

41. Kingship tangled with murder leads to evil leaders such as Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Mao Tse-Tung, Pol Pot, and Idi Amin.

42. Deities mixed with murder leads to killing in the name of religion such as the Christian wars against threats (the Crusades), the continual warring between Jews and Muslims, and the wars between Catholics and Protestants.

43. Lordship tangled with murder leads to brutal societies such as the culture of prisons, the culture of criminals, and the culture of prehistoric man.

44. Isn't murder acceptable if it will put an end to one of these endless cycles? No! All other options must be exhausted until the issue is resolved – even until the natural end of one's life. Killing another is a permanent solution to a temporary problem, and this blatant abuse of free will results in an endless cycle. Murder gives way to more murder just like an eye for an eye results in a blind world.

Does God Kill?
45. The untrue god, the creator of the earth, Yaldabaoth, kills without abandon. Yaldabaoth killed in Sodom and Gomorrah and many other times throughout history.

46. The true God, the way to Faith and Wisdom, Sabaoth, never kills or instructs one to kill. Observe how He divided the language of the Tower of Babel builders rather than kill them to stop their work.

Language
47. Next to the sins of humanity, language is the strongest barrier for humans to overcome.

Does God Talk To You?
48. Many believe God has spoken to them, and this has always lead humans to the best and worst of actions.

49. The true God instructs people to advance on the Path of Humanity – to seek and spread knowledge and wisdom, to use wealth constructively, to relieve suffering of those you hold power over, to turn jealousy into self-improvement, to speak out against the abuse of power, to exemplify the proper lifestyle, and to better society.

50. The untrue god instructs people to turn away from knowledge and wisdom, to turn religion and science against one another, to cling to material possessions, to abuse those you hold power over, to use religion and faith as a means of war, and to "dumb down" society.

51. Aside from the content of the message, it is impossible to distinguish between the true and untrue god, which is why it's important to have proper knowledge. The best question we can apply to a message from above is, "Does what is asked of me abuse my free will or curb the ability of others to exercise their free will?" The answer will tell you if God really is speaking to you.

Jealousy
52. Though jealousy is a natural step on the Path of Humanity, it should only be used as a tool for self-betterment. Everyone is subject to envy at some time in life, but we should channel the sin of envy into an instrument which not only helps us but helps others.

53. The Bible is full of warnings against envy and jealousy. "Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." –Galatians 5:26 "Envy thou not the oppressor, and choose none of his ways." –Proverbs 3:31 We must draw a distinction between envying things to avoid (vain glory and the ways of the oppressor) and using envy as energy in a productive manner.

54. Envy is unavoidable. If envy is to be embraced at all, then it should only be the seed which grows into healthy competition that benefits you and others, such as in athletics; benefits neighborhoods by comparing prosperity so the community strives for betterment; benefits knowledge in attempting to outwit one another. Envy is evil when it is used as an end unto itself – envy for the sake of envy leads to downfall. The first murder took place because Cain was jealous of Abel, but instead of bettering himself, Cain decided to murder his brother.

55. Envy comes after wealth on the Path of Humanity; because wealth leads to envy, but envy should never lead to more wealth. To do this is a regression and if continued long enough causes nothing but misery.

Wrath
56. The most insightful thought on wrath came from Buddha, "Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned." This tells us of the futility of wrath.

57. "A soft answer turneth away wrath: but grievous words stir up anger." –Proverbs 15:1 explains that anger will always lead to more anger. Wrath meet with wrath leads nowhere. ". . .let not the sun go down upon your wrath." –Ephesians 4:26 is a warning to end anger quickly and not allow it to stew. Anger starts in the heart and if allowed to thrive will entrap the mind, and of an angry mind there is no easy escape. The most capable mind of Lucifer's was not able to escape its own wrath.

58. "Make no friendship with an angry man; and with a furious man thou shalt not go: Lest thou learn his ways, and get a snare to thy soul." –Proverbs 22:24-25 Avoid angry men as wrath easily spreads from one to many just as the anger of Adolf Hitler spread to millions, anger so powerful that it outlasted his empire and his life.

War
59. "Rebuke the company of spearmen, the multitude of the bulls, with the calves of the people, till every one submit himself with pieces of silver: scatter thou the people that delight in war." –Psalms 68:30, an advisement to warmongers.

60. War leads to more war plus resentment. The best deterrent for war is peaceful means. Observe how Socrates and Jesus didn't violently oppose their persecutors. Jesus and Socrates accepted their deadly fates, yet their ideas lived on far past the ideas of their oppressors.

The Body
61. "Jesus said, 'If the flesh came into being because of spirit, that is a marvel, but if spirit came into being because of the body, that is a marvel of marvels. Yet I marvel at how this great wealth has come to dwell in this poverty.'" –Gospel of Thomas 29 The physical body sprang forth from the spirit, not the spirit from the body.

62. "Jesus said, 'How miserable is the body that depends on a body, and how miserable is the soul that depends on these two.'" –Gospel of Thomas 87 The body must not rely upon itself, nor the body of another. Your soul should never depend upon your body.

63. Yaldabaoth encased the spirit of humanity in our bodies. Nearly all suffering of humanity is a result from the body and its bad trappings. The end of our bodies, the moment in evolution when we shed our bodies and only the spirit remains, will be the beginning of the most glorious chapter in humanity.

Sacrifice
64. Sacrificial rituals waste material resources and only serve Yaldabaoth, the untrue god, as this deity craves worship and sacrifice. By needlessly sacrificing a material object to appease what you believe is God, you gain nothing. Coupled with the fact this is wasteful, pleases the untrue god, as its nature is evil.

65. Sacrificing to charity and those in need is the true sacrifice for God. This serves a purpose, and saves resources from needless destruction.

66. Ask yourself if you honestly believe God's nature is so prideful and human-like that He needs or wants anything of this Earth? Does your spirit believe sacrificial rituals benefit you or anyone else? Does your soul really feel the best way to show worship to God is with sacrificing an object, rather than giving the object to those in need? The best way to worship to God is by mimicing His nature, which is accomplished by giving to those in need.

Alcohol
67. "Give strong drink unto him that is ready to perish, and wine unto those that be of heavy hearts. Let him drink, and forget his poverty, and remember his misery no more." –Proverbs 31:6-7 Yes, alcohol does have its benefits in that you temporarily forget your misery, and it helps you open up to others. "In vino, verdi" is a Latin phrase meaning "in wine, truth". Remember a drunk man's words are a sober man's thoughts. In this way alcohol brings out the inner nature of a person.

68. Beware of those who drink alone. Drinking alone is a sign you are too dependent on alcohol, and what you really need is the company of others or you need to solve your own spiritual problems.

69. Drinking to express yourself and to forget your problems is a good thing, but don't let the drinking itself become a problem; because then what have you to turn to? With that question in mind, remember to only drink in moderation. "Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise." –Proverbs 20:1

Incest
70. All major religions condemn incest. From a scientific view, incest increases the likelihood the offspring will have defects, and for this reason incest is not to be practiced. A difference of at least five generations is essential to prevent genetic degradation.

71. Even if an incestuous relationship doesn't result in a birth, its practice confuses the love you have for a relative with the love you have for a relationship.

Polygamy
72. Polygamy was practiced in Biblical times, and the Quran reads a man may take up to four wives if he can financially support them. During times the Bible and Quran were written, an imbalance of men to women existed. This was usually because men died before women either in war or working themselves to death. If a society had two women for every man, then polygamy would be a way of ensuring everyone found a mate.

73. In modern times the ratio of men to women is nearly equal; therefore polygamy should cease. If a man takes four wives, then three men go without a wife, and this leads to resentment and depression.

Phoenicians
74. When the angels of Lucifer came to Mount Hermon and took the daughters of men as their mates, the fathers of these women were compensated with advanced knowledge. Eventually, the people known as the Phoenicians inherited this knowledge and spread it throughout the Mediterranean area.

Druids
75. This advanced, and sometimes secret knowledge, originating thousands of years ago, was brought by the Phoenicians to places such as northern Africa and southern Europe. After a few centuries, it was introduced to France and England. When this knowledge found its way to England certain Celts specialized in it, and they would be known as Druids.

76. It took years of learning until one was considered a Druid. Celts were careful never to make a written record of their knowledge, rather they passed it down by oral teachings. Geometry, alchemy, and astrology were of particular interest to the Druids. They possessed understanding of the patterns in society such as the rise and fall of empires and the tell-tell signs which accompanied these events.

Idol Worship
77. ". . . abstain from pollutions of idols. . ." –Acts 15:20". . . an idol is nothing in the world." – 1 Corinthians 8:4"Little children, keep yourselves from idols. . ." -1 John 5:21". . . shun the abomination of idols." –Quran 22:30

78. Idols distract from the true God and focus attention on the material world. Idols are an attempt to recreate or capture the Divine Light within a material object, which is impossible. People simply stare and gaze at idols and forget the meaning behind them, only to be lost in the splendor and awe of the architecture. We often attempt to make the immaterial into material due to the difficulty in grasping the nature of God.

Separation of Church and State
79. Jesus stressed the importance of separating church and state. The opponents of Jesus confronted him for not paying taxes. In Matthew 22:17-22 one reads, "Tell us then, what is your opinion? Is it right to pay taxes to Caesar or not? But Jesus, knowing their evil intent, said, 'You hypocrites, why are you trying to trap me? Show me the coin used for paying the tax.' They brought him a denarius, and he asked them, 'Whose portrait is this? And whose inscription?' 'Caesar's,' they replied. Then he said to them, 'Give to Caesar what is Caesar's, and to God what is God's.' When they heard this, they were amazed. So they left him and went away."

80. In this Jesus explains the government holds control over your material possessions and anything else created by the decree of government; however what God creates belongs to God, such as your spirit. Here you can see the distinction between government and religion. Too often people infused religion into government, and this resulted in the worst chapters in human history. During Biblical times religion ruled government, which led to horrible persecution.

81. Never should the interpretations of religion have total power over a government. Never should a government have total power over any religion. For this reason 'authority over others' and 'spirituality' are two different steps on the Path of Humanity.
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Next is spirit. But before that takes place. There will be a cleansing.
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Before all of that you posted we were all one people nation. Then we were separated.
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Our Spiritual Declaration: Major Religious Issues 4000BC-1600BC

Chapter 9: Early Religious Issues 12000BC-2200BC

Ancient Egyptian Beliefs

1. Osiris and Isis are among the Ranks of the Righteous, as the couples Adam/Eve and Fu Xi/Nüwa were. Osiris and Isis were a couple similar to Adam and Eve with a taste to spread knowledge throughout Egypt.

2. Osiris and Isis convinced the ancient Egyptians to reject cannibalism. Osiris taught the men how to cultivate land for farming, how to make bread and wine, and the joys of music. Isis taught the Egyptians in the ways of medicine, how to make clothing, and how to grind grain.

3. They had a son named Horus.

4. Set, the brother of Osiris, was filled with envy toward his sibling. Set locked Osiris into a coffin which floated down the Nile until resting under a tree. Isis resurrected Osiris, and later they descended into the Underworld to rule over the dead.

5. Horus finally overcame Seth to be the pharaoh of Egypt.

Agriculture
6. Agriculture was the most important invention to improve the quality of life for humans. It allowed humans to cease nomadic ways and settle down. Many ancient religions sprang up with beliefs relating to agriculture at the core.

Ceremonial Burial
7. One of the earliest evidences of spirituality curiosity in humans was burying the dead. Evidence of this custom dates back over 100,000 years. Even then the dead was buried with the owner's material possessions.

8. From a religious view, burial shows respect for a person's spirit and legacy. From a scientific view, burial is important for sanitary reasons. If one dies from varying diseases the result could be spreading the same disease to the living unless the person is buried. Burial sites must be chosen carefully, as a corpse can contaminate underground water used for drinking.

The Sphinx
9. Around 2500 BC Khafre ruled Egypt, of whom the Great Sphinx was a tribute. Khafra's name denotes he appeared like Ra, the Sun God.

Paganism
10. Animal worship, which predates all modern major religions, wasn't a surprising event, as animals played one of the most important roles in society. Nomadic hunters relied on animals as a source of food, and farmers relied on animals to help tame the land.

11. Some women noticed their menstrual cycle followed closely to the lunar cycle, leading to worship of the Moon.

12. Because the sun was the chief provider of life, it was worshiped. Many were fascinated by the force which causes plants to grow, and this force (being thought of as a form of fertility) was also worshiped.

Ancient America
13. Around 2200 BC in the South American region, the Norte Chico people flourished. Little is known of their religious beliefs, but they were a peaceful civilization, as archeological evidence of warfare hasn't been found.

Urukagina the Illuminated
14. Urukagina ruled in Mesopotamia around 2370 BC.

15. Urukagina was enlightened during a difficult time. He sought to stop abuses of power, and created a welfare system exempting widows and orphans from taxes.16. He expanded freedom throughout his kingdom and should serve as an inspiration for everyone, especially those who hold authority under unfavorable circumstances.
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I have a couple questions.... Are you and yours looking for an incarnation of Innana or Isis ?
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If you are then I have some more questions to ask...
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No, and who do you mean by "yours"? I don't have a mate. I have to stay single.

I have a couple questions.... Are you and yours looking for an incarnation of Innana or Isis ?
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I don't mean mate. Personally I think it's better and easier to stay single. I meant family ancestry and order.
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What was the meaning of the Sphinx?
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Help,me out!My soul is killing me!
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The meaning of it was just in honor of a pharaoh. It has astronomical significance most egyptologists mention. Is this what you mean?

What was the meaning of the Sphinx?
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You'll have to be more specific on how your soul is killing you.

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