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AZ User ID: 1273159 United States 05/22/2011 01:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Astronut, you are really one of the only people bringing actual facts to this site. I appreciate every post you write. i feel like you teach me things. you're a very smart individual and i really dont see why ppl call you a shill. most likely they are the shills. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1394833keep doin what you do dawg. Facts? No one can or has explained all of the Earth changes that have gone on in recent years, this guy is a total schill, he has nothing. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1394833 United States 05/22/2011 01:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Astronut, you are really one of the only people bringing actual facts to this site. I appreciate every post you write. i feel like you teach me things. you're a very smart individual and i really dont see why ppl call you a shill. most likely they are the shills. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1394833keep doin what you do dawg. Facts? No one can or has explained all of the Earth changes that have gone on in recent years, this guy is a total schill, he has nothing. yes, facts. every here of them? i dont see him trying to explain earth changes, i see him giving actual FACTUAL evidence about a comet that ppl "predict" will hit earth. Do you understand the difference? Astro knows his shit, unless you can prove me otherwise, YOU are the god damn shill |
Geophysical Events User ID: 1389806 Taiwan 05/22/2011 01:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BUT ELE! NIN! 9/11! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1391294ITS NOT FAIR! I WANT ELENIN CONSPIRACY AND DOOOOOOM! The dispute is not over yet. Astronut proves that Elenin is not a massive object. However, given the facts of events occurring in the past alignments, there are other ways a comet can cause earthquakes even it doesn't have big mass. However, it's is much more difficult to analyze by amateur conspiracy theorists now. The analysis of the other causes need professional scientists. Last Edited by Geophysical Events on 05/22/2011 01:58 AM |
AZ User ID: 1273159 United States 05/22/2011 01:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Astronut, you are really one of the only people bringing actual facts to this site. I appreciate every post you write. i feel like you teach me things. you're a very smart individual and i really dont see why ppl call you a shill. most likely they are the shills. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1394833keep doin what you do dawg. Facts? No one can or has explained all of the Earth changes that have gone on in recent years, this guy is a total schill, he has nothing. yes, facts. every here of them? i dont see him trying to explain earth changes, i see him giving actual FACTUAL evidence about a comet that ppl "predict" will hit earth. Do you understand the difference? Astro knows his shit, unless you can prove me otherwise, YOU are the god damn shill You are a complete dipshit, he has not offered a single thing, what facts are you referring to that can be proved? |
ShillsRUs User ID: 1336263 United States 05/22/2011 01:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here comes Astronut, just in time. Folks, look at the planet and make up your own mind. Quoting: AZ 1273159exactly. go look at it and then you will know it's just a small comet or keep deluding yourself and join the next EPIC "Heaven's Gate" FAIL. So how would you explain the Earth changes over the last year or two? the Earth is in constant change....so what's your point? it damn sure has nothing to do with that comet. but if you want to hitch your ride on it - we are not going to stop you. hell i might even pitch in to buy your track suit. |
AZ User ID: 1273159 United States 05/22/2011 01:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here comes Astronut, just in time. Folks, look at the planet and make up your own mind. Quoting: AZ 1273159exactly. go look at it and then you will know it's just a small comet or keep deluding yourself and join the next EPIC "Heaven's Gate" FAIL. So how would you explain the Earth changes over the last year or two? the Earth is in constant change....so what's your point? it damn sure has nothing to do with that comet. but if you want to hitch your ride on it - we are not going to stop you. hell i might even pitch in to buy your track suit. How are you so sure, you have nothing to offer, how do you know that it's just a comet schill? |
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RS User ID: 1291163 United States 05/22/2011 01:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm the only one here that has given the true facts on this thread in my previous post in this thread. That asteroid has a 94% chance of not being affected by comet Elenin because it has a 94% chance of not being iron based. Instead it has a 94% chance of being nothing but a rock with a minute amount of iron. The Earth is iron based and can be affected magnetically. |
AZ User ID: 1273159 United States 05/22/2011 01:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm the only one here that has given the true facts on this thread in my previous post in this thread. Quoting: RS 1291163That asteroid has a 94% chance of not being affected by comet Elenin because it has a 94% chance of not being iron based. Instead it has a 94% chance of being nothing but a rock with a minute amount of iron. The Earth is iron based and can be affected magnetically. RS, what the fuck are you talking about? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1394833 United States 05/22/2011 01:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Astronut, you are really one of the only people bringing actual facts to this site. I appreciate every post you write. i feel like you teach me things. you're a very smart individual and i really dont see why ppl call you a shill. most likely they are the shills. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1394833keep doin what you do dawg. Facts? No one can or has explained all of the Earth changes that have gone on in recent years, this guy is a total schill, he has nothing. yes, facts. every here of them? i dont see him trying to explain earth changes, i see him giving actual FACTUAL evidence about a comet that ppl "predict" will hit earth. Do you understand the difference? Astro knows his shit, unless you can prove me otherwise, YOU are the god damn shill You are a complete dipshit, he has not offered a single thing, what facts are you referring to that can be proved? ummm, can you read? did you attempt to read the very first post in this thread? go ahead and try again. |
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Geophysical Events User ID: 1389806 Taiwan 05/22/2011 01:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm the only one here that has given the true facts on this thread in my previous post in this thread. Quoting: RS 1291163That asteroid has a 94% chance of not being affected by comet Elenin because it has a 94% chance of not being iron based. Instead it has a 94% chance of being nothing but a rock with a minute amount of iron. The Earth is iron based and can be affected magnetically. If the asteroid is rock. It won't be affected by Coulomb's force either. Last Edited by Geophysical Events on 05/22/2011 01:52 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1394861 Australia 05/22/2011 01:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 22nd May 2011 Notes: What Is It? While we were watching Elenin today, we noticed that there was something else in the picture as well. We have included 2 pictures below with the bottom row pointing out what we were looking at. Elenin is just to the left of centre in each picture. In the first picture, there are 3 “stars” in a group to the right of Elenin. We noticed that in our series of pictures that we took of elenin that one of those stars was moving over time and was heading towards the bottom of the picture. If you look at the 2nd picture, you will see only two of the stars are to the right of the comet. We have pointed out in the 2nd picture bottom row where the object moved to. At this stage we are suspecting it may be an unknown asteroid . There were no known asteroids, satellites or planets in the area at that time. [link to sydneystargazers.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1394833 United States 05/22/2011 01:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm the only one here that has given the true facts on this thread in my previous post in this thread. Quoting: RS 1291163That asteroid has a 94% chance of not being affected by comet Elenin because it has a 94% chance of not being iron based. Instead it has a 94% chance of being nothing but a rock with a minute amount of iron. The Earth is iron based and can be affected magnetically. you're assuming way too much. thats the difference btwn ppl like you and astronut. he actually backs his claims up with proof |
AZ User ID: 1273159 United States 05/22/2011 01:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: AZ 1273159Facts? No one can or has explained all of the Earth changes that have gone on in recent years, this guy is a total schill, he has nothing. yes, facts. every here of them? i dont see him trying to explain earth changes, i see him giving actual FACTUAL evidence about a comet that ppl "predict" will hit earth. Do you understand the difference? Astro knows his shit, unless you can prove me otherwise, YOU are the god damn shill You are a complete dipshit, he has not offered a single thing, what facts are you referring to that can be proved? ummm, can you read? did you attempt to read the very first post in this thread? go ahead and try again. ummm, yeah, i can read, so far i have not seen any facts presented here this evening, again i call astronut a schill presenting nothing but BS. What say you? |
ShillsRUs User ID: 1336263 United States 05/22/2011 01:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Come on dick for brains, bring on your best, I'm ready to.... Quoting: AZ 1273159no need to argue the point....we will get our answers soon enough and of course i will be forced to plant another on one more EPIC DOOM FAILURE! Last Edited by ShillsRUs on 05/22/2011 01:55 AM |
AZ User ID: 1273159 United States 05/22/2011 01:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Come on dick for brains, bring on your best, I'm ready to.... Quoting: AZ 1273159no need to argue the point....we will get our answers soon enough and of course i will be forced to plant another on one more EPIC DOOM FAILURE! [youtube] Ok, sounds good, thanks for playing... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1394833 United States 05/22/2011 01:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1394833yes, facts. every here of them? i dont see him trying to explain earth changes, i see him giving actual FACTUAL evidence about a comet that ppl "predict" will hit earth. Do you understand the difference? Astro knows his shit, unless you can prove me otherwise, YOU are the god damn shill You are a complete dipshit, he has not offered a single thing, what facts are you referring to that can be proved? ummm, can you read? did you attempt to read the very first post in this thread? go ahead and try again. ummm, yeah, i can read, so far i have not seen any facts presented here this evening, again i call astronut a schill presenting nothing but BS. What say you? do you have ANY explanation as to why its BS? i still haven't seen any reason to believe otherwise. you seem set to call him a shill regardless of his post. |
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RS User ID: 1291163 United States 05/22/2011 02:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm the only one here that has given the true facts on this thread in my previous post in this thread. Quoting: RS 1291163That asteroid has a 94% chance of not being affected by comet Elenin because it has a 94% chance of not being iron based. Instead it has a 94% chance of being nothing but a rock with a minute amount of iron. The Earth is iron based and can be affected magnetically. you're assuming way too much. thats the difference btwn ppl like you and astronut. he actually backs his claims up with proof Astro has not given any proof whatsoever that he knows if the asteroid is magnetic or not. There is scientific proof that 94% of the space rocks out there are not iron based, therefore the small asteroid has a 94% chance of not being affected by Elenin. This statement is scientific fact. |
AZ User ID: 1273159 United States 05/22/2011 02:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: AZ 1273159You are a complete dipshit, he has not offered a single thing, what facts are you referring to that can be proved? ummm, can you read? did you attempt to read the very first post in this thread? go ahead and try again. ummm, yeah, i can read, so far i have not seen any facts presented here this evening, again i call astronut a schill presenting nothing but BS. What say you? do you have ANY explanation as to why its BS? i still haven't seen any reason to believe otherwise. you seem set to call him a shill regardless of his post. So what I see is a world that is trying to explain away the massive amount of Earth changes we've had over the last few years, everyone is trying to keep the sheep in the dark, we clearly are not living in normal times, look around you man, it's fairly easy to call BS on an Astronut he doesn't have any explaination to the obvious just shoot down any logical ideas. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1394833 United States 05/22/2011 02:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm the only one here that has given the true facts on this thread in my previous post in this thread. Quoting: RS 1291163That asteroid has a 94% chance of not being affected by comet Elenin because it has a 94% chance of not being iron based. Instead it has a 94% chance of being nothing but a rock with a minute amount of iron. The Earth is iron based and can be affected magnetically. you're assuming way too much. thats the difference btwn ppl like you and astronut. he actually backs his claims up with proof Astro has not given any proof whatsoever that he knows if the asteroid is magnetic or not. There is scientific proof that 94% of the space rocks out there are not iron based, therefore the small asteroid has a 94% chance of not being affected by Elenin. This statement is scientific fact. I'm not an astrophysicist, so i really can't fight you on that, but you're still assuming way too much, and you're numbers dont really match up. just bc this asteroid is not iron based does not mean it has a 94% chance of not being affected. that makes no sense AT ALL. if you could break it down further id be more willing to believe you. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1379975 United States 05/22/2011 02:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | PIN this thread. I admire facts from real observation! It can bring us closer to the truth. Now I have two more questions left 1. The asteroid is very dim. The sky is full of objects with 19 apparent magnitude everywhere. Can you double check it's RQ176? For example, taking two shots at different time to show RQ176 is actually moving and not a remote star. Once we have such photos, we can settle the dispute over Elenin's mass once and for all. 2. How Elenin causes M8+ earthquakes still remains a mystery. I want to say again, it's hardly a coincidence. Elenin happens to have very small inclination 1.839°, so it can form a straight line between planets and the Sun. M8+ earthquakes are very rare, but there were M8.1, M8.8, and M9.0 in the past four Elenin's alignments. There are only thirty M8+ mega earthquakes since 1975 (35 years), all of the last three M8+ earthquakes happened in Elenin's alignment!. The probability of random events is near 0. We still need an explanation!!! USGS database search: [link to earthquake.usgs.gov] PDE 1975 05 26 091151.50 36.00 -17.65 33 8.1 UKPAS 6D. .T..... PDE 1976 01 14 164733.50 -28.43 -177.66 33 8.2 UKBRK .D. .T..... PDE 1977 04 21 042409.60 -9.97 160.73 33 8.1 UKPAS 7C. .T..... PDE 1977 08 19 060855.20 -11.09 118.46 33 8.0 UKPAS .C. .T..... PDE 1980 07 17 194223.20 -12.52 165.92 33 8.0 UKBRK .F. .T..... PDE 1985 09 19 131747.35 18.19 -102.53 27 8.0 MwHRV 9CM .TS...M PDE 1986 05 07 224710.87 51.52 -174.78 33 8.0 MwHRV 6DM .T..... PDE 1986 10 20 064609.98 -28.12 -176.37 29 8.3 MSBRK .FM .T..... PDE 1989 05 23 105446.32 -52.34 160.57 10 8.2 MsGS 5FM .T..... PDE 1994 06 09 003316.23 -13.84 -67.55 631 8.2 MwGS .CM ......S PDE 1994 10 04 132255.84 43.77 147.32 14 8.3 MwHRV 9CM .T....S PDE 1995 07 30 051123.63 -23.34 -70.29 45 8.0 MwGS 7CM .T....S PDE 1995 10 09 153553.91 19.06 -104.21 33 8.0 MwHRV .CM ST....S PDE 1996 02 17 055930.55 -0.89 136.95 33 8.2 MwHRV .CM .T..... PDE 1998 03 25 031225.07 -62.88 149.53 10 8.1 MwHRV ..M ....... PDE 2000 11 16 045456.74 -3.98 152.17 33 8.0 MwHRV .CM STS...S PDE 2001 06 23 203314.13 -16.26 -73.64 33 8.4 MwHRV 8CM .T....S PDE 2003 09 25 195006.36 41.81 143.91 27 8.3 MwHRV 8CM .T....S PDE 2004 12 23 145904.41 -49.31 161.35 10 8.1 MwHRV .FM .T..... PDE 2004 12 26 005853.45 3.30 95.98 30 9.1 Mw01100 9CM STS...M PDE 2005 03 28 160936.53 2.09 97.11 30 8.6 MwHRV 8CM 3TS.... PDE 2006 05 03 152640.29 -20.19 -174.12 55 8.0 MwHRV 7CM .T..... PDE 2006 11 15 111413.57 46.59 153.27 10 8.3 MwGCMT 4CM .T..... PDE 2007 01 13 042321.16 46.24 154.52 10 8.1 MwGCMT 6FM .T..... PDE 2007 04 01 203958.71 -8.47 157.04 24 8.1 MwGCMT .CM UT....S PDE 2007 08 15 234057.89 -13.39 -76.60 39 8.0 MwGCMT 9CM .T....M PDE 2007 09 12 111026.83 -4.44 101.37 34 8.5 MwGCMT 6CM .TS.... PDE 2009 09 29 174810.99 -15.49 -172.10 18 8.1 MwGCMT 6CM .T..... PDE-W 2010 02 27 063411.53 -36.12 -72.90 22 8.8 MwUCMT 9CM UTS.... PDE-Q 2011 03 11 054624.12 38.30 142.37 29 9.0 MwUCMT XCM STS...M If Elenin has tiny mass, I can only think of some possibilities [Hypothesis A] TPTB HAARP/X37-B it whenever it forms an alignment. Elenin is a psyop How to verify it: Understand the mechanism of HAARP in full and find relevant measurements to detect it. [Hypothesis B] Elenin is static charged like Comet NEAT (2002-2003) may be, too (a strongly charged comet seems not rare): [link to www.thunderbolts.info] Pity that Comet NEAT has 81.7° of inclination (it can never form a line between Earth and Sun), so we cannot use it as a reference. Coulomb's force is multiple magnitude stronger than gravitational force, so a tiny object can possibly exert strong Coulomb's force on Sun. Comet NEAT is very tiny compared to the Sun, but it caused a giant CME. In this case, Elenin can influence Sun (composed of plasma), but cannot influence a asteroid (composed of rock) This can possibly explain the earthquakes caused by Elenin's alignment "Perhaps the observation of Nobel Laureate Hannes Alfvén, the father of plasma cosmology, can put the issue in context. It was his opinion that coronal mass ejections are caused by a breakdown or breach of the Sun’s double layer—an event that provokes an explosive exchange between the insulated plasma cell of the Sun and the plasma of surrounding space." How to verify this theory: a. Observe the Sun. The plasma composition on Sun's surface may be influenced. b. The attraction from Sun to Elenin may induce small changes to Elenin's orbit. (to be calculated later) c. There will be a Magnetic Field from Elenin near Earth in late Sep and early Oct. (but it's already too late to find out) What it implies if it's true: the influence by Elenin on Sun in late September will be (3.1/0.6)^2 ~= 26.7 times of Mar 11, 2011 [Hypothesis C] Elenin has strong magnetic field How to verify it: I don't know [Hypothesis D] Just a BIG coincidence! As you can see the M8+ listed in the past 35 years, the probability is very low. Wonderful response |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1379975 United States 05/22/2011 02:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm the only one here that has given the true facts on this thread in my previous post in this thread. Quoting: RS 1291163That asteroid has a 94% chance of not being affected by comet Elenin because it has a 94% chance of not being iron based. Instead it has a 94% chance of being nothing but a rock with a minute amount of iron. The Earth is iron based and can be affected magnetically. you're assuming way too much. thats the difference btwn ppl like you and astronut. he actually backs his claims up with proof Astro has not given any proof whatsoever that he knows if the asteroid is magnetic or not. There is scientific proof that 94% of the space rocks out there are not iron based, therefore the small asteroid has a 94% chance of not being affected by Elenin. This statement is scientific fact. I'm not an astrophysicist, so i really can't fight you on that, but you're still assuming way too much, and you're numbers dont really match up. just bc this asteroid is not iron based does not mean it has a 94% chance of not being affected. that makes no sense AT ALL. if you could break it down further id be more willing to believe you. "Once the particles have been ionized, they attain a net positive electrical charge which in turn gives rise to an "induced magnetosphere" around the comet. The comet and its induced magnetic field form an obstacle to outward flowing solar wind particles. As the relative orbital speed of the comet and the solar wind is supersonic, a bow shock is formed upstream of the comet, in the flow direction of the solar wind. In this bow shock, large concentrations of cometary ions (called "pick-up ions") congregate and act to "load" the solar magnetic field with plasma, such that the field lines "drape" around the comet forming the ion tail" - [link to en.wikipedia.org] |