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Dildozer User ID: 1407903 United States 06/02/2011 12:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Inflation. It's all they know how to do. Deflation would be great for us since the dollar would have MORE buying power. Deflation is only bad for lenders. Since the FED is the only entity that creates money, and requires interest BACK on that money (not so much now - almost 0% FED rate), where does that interest come from? It doesn't exist yet until they create more money in the future. A fiat money supply can only function in a state of constant inflation or it doesn't work. Also, if inflation wasn't rampant, they would not have discontinued public reporting of the M3 money supply. Hope that makes sense. -Dildozer |
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Dildozer User ID: 1407903 United States 06/02/2011 12:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No one knows BUT if you have a lot of debt hyperinflation would be your friend. Deflation hurts small businesses. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1314605That is true- deflation would hurt small businesses that sit on stock. This past year, American manufacturers (all 6 of them that are left!) lowered avg. stocking amounts from 11% to 5% to reduce overhead. If you have a product that you bought for $70 and are selling for $100, then the next week that same item will fetch only $90, that sucks. |
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Dildozer User ID: 1407903 United States 06/02/2011 01:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Deflation is only bad for lenders. Quoting: Dildozer-Dildozer WRONG, deflation is bad for the borrower. Inflation is bad for the lender. You are correct- I mistyped (late here). Meant to say deflation is bad for the lender. This is why China is pissed at us since we effectively decrease our debt by inflating our way out of it and their holding become worth less. That you for the correction and have a good night. |
AlasBabylon User ID: 1405074 United States 06/02/2011 01:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Inflation to hyperinflation followed by deflationary collapse. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1343978Exactly what happened in the Weimar Republic. We hear a lot about the runaway inflation in Weimar Germany... but little about the deflationary depression that followed. Germans lost their jobs, their homes and their lives [many of the homeless froze to death in the winter] not during the hyperinflation... but during the deflationary depression that followed. The USA is following a similar path. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1410917 United States 06/02/2011 01:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Deflation is only bad for lenders. Quoting: Dildozer-Dildozer WRONG, deflation is bad for the borrower. Inflation is bad for the lender. Correct!! Knowing this simple fact will give OP the answer to his question. For a hint, see what is happening now to Greece. Spain and Italy and UK are next. Then the US and soon after, the entire globe. |
LadyLeo User ID: 853309 United States 06/02/2011 01:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hyper inflation and AUSTERITY Here is why they are telling us we are on the verge of a Great Depression :) Thread: Here is why they are telling us we are on the verge of a Great Depression :) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1314605 United States 06/02/2011 01:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Deflation is only bad for lenders. Quoting: Dildozer-Dildozer WRONG, deflation is bad for the borrower. Inflation is bad for the lender. You are correct- I mistyped (late here). Meant to say deflation is bad for the lender. This is why China is pissed at us since we effectively decrease our debt by inflating our way out of it and their holding become worth less. That you for the correction and have a good night. Sorry if I came off a little harsh. I just see so many economic concepts posted on here that are clearly wrong and it can get frustrating at times. It also gets hard to debate people when their source is some random guy on youtube, and yet they are so quit to dismiss economists. Have a good night. |
AlasBabylon User ID: 1405074 United States 06/02/2011 01:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry if I came off a little harsh. I just see so many economic concepts posted on here that are clearly wrong and it can get frustrating at times. It also gets hard to debate people when their source is some random guy on youtube, and yet they are so quit to dismiss economists. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1314605Have a good night. This is a psyop forum... don't take it too seriously or you'll go nuts. . |
Stu User ID: 1134640 United States 06/02/2011 01:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | they will always choose inflation so they can be first at the money spigot...by the time it trickles down to you the money is devalued but they get to spend the money BEFORE you do all fiat currencies end up in crack up booms they will never choose deflation although youll see it in assets you dont need we'll never make it to hyperinflation because theyll go to war 1st to cover up the crimes....history will repeat as usual _____________________________________ Even the structure of the atom has been found by the mind. Therefore the mind is subtler than the atom. That which is behind the mind, namely the individual soul, is subtler than the mind. -Ramana |
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Burt Gummer User ID: 1431061 United States 06/16/2011 09:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So what's it gonna be. Eco-collapse---> inflation or deflation, print money to hell, or people just run out of money and stop buying shit? 1000 dollars for bread, or 50 dollars for a handgun? whats the scoop. Should I buy stuff now or wait till its all super cheap? Economists are pumpin out both theories, the inflation scenario is more popular, with our money printing-habits, but the deflation scenario could be entirely plausible if more money isn't printed. A bourgosie friend of my fathers said over dinner that the time it would be deflation. Really this is huge, does anybody have any idea which way it will go? Quoting: exoInflation....no matter which way you slice it. It's just a matter of DEGREE depending on what the assclowns in office do next round....QE3....or raise interest rates. The ONLY thing that will help....and is a white light at the end of a long dark tunnel.....is CUTTING THE DEBT. The way to start that.....make sure the USA debt ceiling is not raised without EQUAL or GREATER CUTS in government spending. :wreckcrew: |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1247138 United States 06/16/2011 09:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So there won't be a miracle period were we can go out and buy whatever we want for wicked cheap? What does the post inflation deflation situation look like? Quoting: exoyes there will be, if you have cash. the trouble is most people are so deeply in debt that they will struggle to hold onto anything let alone have cash to pick up assets at fire sale prices, oh and to the dumbasses that are expecting inflation-where the fuck were you for the last 15-20 years??????????? |
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Burt Gummer User ID: 1431061 United States 06/16/2011 09:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So there won't be a miracle period were we can go out and buy whatever we want for wicked cheap? What does the post inflation deflation situation look like? Quoting: exoNo...there will be no WICKED CHEAP goods. Read up on the WEIMAR REPUBLIC and how it took a WHEELBARROW (no exaggeration) full of money to buy a loaf of bread in Germany a few years before WWII. As for what the future holds....that TOTALLY depends on getting rid of Obama in 2012 and EVERY MONEY SPENDING PROGRAM he has put in place to deliberately kill off the USA....and that includes the NEEDLESS wars. Post inflation situation? You will do more with less. Possibly 85%-95% or more of your income (if you have a job) will go to FOOD and SHELTER expenses until things begin to recover. ....but ONLY if you get RID of this guy first. Otherwise.....the USA is doomed....and it's DELIBERATE. Last Edited by Useless Cookie Eater on 06/16/2011 10:17 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 642770 United States 06/16/2011 09:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'll assume you are speaking of monetary inflation/deflation and not price inflation, we have had inflation aready for the passed 80 years, we are at the deflation stage and all thier attemps to infalte the money supply is not working, credit is being destroyed faster than it is created, hyperinflation just means a loss of confidence by the populace of the current monetary system, Germanys inflation was different they where inflating currency(printing currency), in our case 95% ofd the money supple is npt currency but credit, and that's whats being destroyed in a deflationary period, for now cash is king, I thing when that changes we will have visible signs, read the Atomatic Earth website for greta insights of our economic reality. |
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exo (OP) User ID: 1431452 United States 06/16/2011 11:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ah so we did in fact experience deflation, because most of the wealth was in credit and that is gone. i don't think this is real deflation but something like it. good point, most dollars is not in paper- so it is not like weimar. even qe2 was not paper, right? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 954039 Canada 06/16/2011 11:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So what's it gonna be. Eco-collapse---> inflation or deflation, print money to hell, or people just run out of money and stop buying shit? 1000 dollars for bread, or 50 dollars for a handgun? whats the scoop. Should I buy stuff now or wait till its all super cheap? Economists are pumpin out both theories, the inflation scenario is more popular, with our money printing-habits, but the deflation scenario could be entirely plausible if more money isn't printed. A bourgosie friend of my fathers said over dinner that the time it would be deflation. Really this is huge, does anybody have any idea which way it will go? Quoting: exoThey aren't two sides of one coin. Deflation is the contraction of credit. Loans wanted or loans willing to be made. Inflation is corruption of the currency by government or banks that are allowed to create money out of thin air. |
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