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TO ALL MEN: IS YOUR CHILD REALLY YOURS OR NOT? HOW TO FIND OUT.

 
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I thought Id help some out here, cause maybe you all didnt know this was availiable and easy to do.

Cheek swab DNA test by mail is as low as a hundred bucks, no clinic involved, just takes a few seconds at home without the Mother knowing, You swab the babies cheeks , then yours, then you mail in the swabs they sent you.

They mail the results back if the baby is yours or not.

Its discreet and private packaging. And no one else has to know, but you and the mail to clinic.

Can be done with new born babies, or kids of all ages.

Good luck to all that could use the truth.
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Yea I used one of those like 2 years ago but they won't hold up in court but still worth to know that if the kid isn't yours

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Women cheat A LOT. GOOD TEST. Should humble a lot of women.
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You have to know the mom's DNA in order to check to see if the remainder of the child's DNA belongs to the father being tested. So, you have to have a sample of mom's DNA, whether she willingly gives it or not.
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That is really good news. Thank you for posting.
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You have to know the mom's DNA in order to check to see if the remainder of the child's DNA belongs to the father being tested. So, you have to have a sample of mom's DNA, whether she willingly gives it or not.
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Huh, really? hmm, trying to remember how I had it done, was it three swabs?

I thought this was a stealth operation, haha

Are you sure? I guess I can look it up instead of using my shoddy memory

Im no geneticist.


UPDATE, looked up the one I used, GTL labs and it can be done with just Father and Child. So I was correct.
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You must be very careful with whom you breed with....
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You have to know the mom's DNA in order to check to see if the remainder of the child's DNA belongs to the father being tested. So, you have to have a sample of mom's DNA, whether she willingly gives it or not.
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No you don't I did one on my son because I had a feeling he wasn't myne and turned out he wasnt myne
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“My idea of a perfect government is one guy who sits in a small room at a desk, and the only thing he’s allowed to decide is who to nuke. The man is chosen based on some kind of IQ test, and maybe also a physical tournament, like a decathlon. And women are brought to him, maybe ... when he desires them.” Ron Swanson
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You have to know the mom's DNA in order to check to see if the remainder of the child's DNA belongs to the father being tested. So, you have to have a sample of mom's DNA, whether she willingly gives it or not.
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Huh, really? hmm, trying to remember how I had it done, was it three swabs?

I thought this was a stealth operation, haha

Are you sure? I guess I can look it up instead of using my shoddy memory

Im no geneticist.
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No you don't need the mothers dna I have had 2 dna done one by the court system and they didn't even take her dna.
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“We have allowed our nation to be over taxed and over regulated and overrun by bureaucrats, the founders would be ashamed of us for what we're putting up with.” Ron Paul
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“My idea of a perfect government is one guy who sits in a small room at a desk, and the only thing he’s allowed to decide is who to nuke. The man is chosen based on some kind of IQ test, and maybe also a physical tournament, like a decathlon. And women are brought to him, maybe ... when he desires them.” Ron Swanson
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You have to know the mom's DNA in order to check to see if the remainder of the child's DNA belongs to the father being tested. So, you have to have a sample of mom's DNA, whether she willingly gives it or not.
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No you don't I did one on my son because I had a feeling he wasn't myne and turned out he wasnt myne
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Aha !

Knew it could be done with two.
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Women cheat A LOT. GOOD TEST. Should humble a lot of women.
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Yes, I shudder to think of the old days and all those thousands of years, all those that got away with it..
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Yea I used one of those like 2 years ago but they won't hold up in court but still worth to know that if the kid isn't yours
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One good thing about it is that even though it doesn't hold up in court, at least you KNOW. That way, you know if it's worth doing the whole court thing or not, which would cost a LOT MORE money, just to find out the kid isn't yours.

Not sure about other states, but here in Oklahoma, the burdon of proof is on the father. WOman sues for child support, and the guy says it isn't his child? judge says "prove it" and the man has to pay for the court-approved DNA test.

It amazes me how many women pull this shit on people. My goodness. Talk about turning someone's life upside down.
Goodbye, halcyon days...

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There is another theory mentioned, which states that this has already happened.
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Here is the one I used,

Mother optional.

Oops, something wrong with clickable link? Its called GTL laboratories.

[link to www.gtldna.net (secure)]
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Yea I used one of those like 2 years ago but they won't hold up in court but still worth to know that if the kid isn't yours
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One good thing about it is that even though it doesn't hold up in court, at least you KNOW. That way, you know if it's worth doing the whole court thing or not, which would cost a LOT MORE money, just to find out the kid isn't yours.

Not sure about other states, but here in Oklahoma, the burdon of proof is on the father. WOman sues for child support, and the guy says it isn't his child? judge says "prove it" and the man has to pay for the court-approved DNA test.

It amazes me how many women pull this shit on people. My goodness. Talk about turning someone's life upside down.
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Yup same way in Texas too I had to pay 600 dollars for court ordered dna test but I already knew he wasn't myne and she had to pay me the 600 back. I think oklahomas the same way but not sure
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“We have allowed our nation to be over taxed and over regulated and overrun by bureaucrats, the founders would be ashamed of us for what we're putting up with.” Ron Paul
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“My idea of a perfect government is one guy who sits in a small room at a desk, and the only thing he’s allowed to decide is who to nuke. The man is chosen based on some kind of IQ test, and maybe also a physical tournament, like a decathlon. And women are brought to him, maybe ... when he desires them.” Ron Swanson
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Yea I used one of those like 2 years ago but they won't hold up in court but still worth to know that if the kid isn't yours
 Quoting: patdeez84


One good thing about it is that even though it doesn't hold up in court, at least you KNOW. That way, you know if it's worth doing the whole court thing or not, which would cost a LOT MORE money, just to find out the kid isn't yours.

Not sure about other states, but here in Oklahoma, the burdon of proof is on the father. WOman sues for child support, and the guy says it isn't his child? judge says "prove it" and the man has to pay for the court-approved DNA test.

It amazes me how many women pull this shit on people. My goodness. Talk about turning someone's life upside down.
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Whoa, thats tough, and usually the woman just chooses who has the most money..and tries to make him the Dad.
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Whoa, thats tough, and usually the woman just chooses who has the most money..and tries to make him the Dad.
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and that's why things like this are spectactular ;)


btw, i am 100% positive of the father of my son. The father himself even acknowledges he is the father.

I STILL haven't pursued child support.


In my opinion, if you want nothing to do with your child, then I damned sure don't want your money.
Goodbye, halcyon days...

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There is another theory mentioned, which states that this has already happened.
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Whoa, thats tough, and usually the woman just chooses who has the most money..and tries to make him the Dad.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINAUGHTY


and that's why things like this are spectactular ;)


btw, i am 100% positive of the father of my son. The father himself even acknowledges he is the father.

I STILL haven't pursued child support.


In my opinion, if you want nothing to do with your child, then I damned sure don't want your money.
 Quoting: Only Me


Does he not even offer to help? If not thats kinda shitty I paid my x even tho I knew he wasn't my biological son till she stopped letting me see him so I told her off and refused to pay her anymore money
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“We have allowed our nation to be over taxed and over regulated and overrun by bureaucrats, the founders would be ashamed of us for what we're putting up with.” Ron Paul
.

“My idea of a perfect government is one guy who sits in a small room at a desk, and the only thing he’s allowed to decide is who to nuke. The man is chosen based on some kind of IQ test, and maybe also a physical tournament, like a decathlon. And women are brought to him, maybe ... when he desires them.” Ron Swanson
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Whoa, thats tough, and usually the woman just chooses who has the most money..and tries to make him the Dad.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINAUGHTY


and that's why things like this are spectactular ;)


btw, i am 100% positive of the father of my son. The father himself even acknowledges he is the father.

I STILL haven't pursued child support.


In my opinion, if you want nothing to do with your child, then I damned sure don't want your money.
 Quoting: Only Me


Does he not even offer to help? If not thats kinda shitty I paid my x even tho I knew he wasn't my biological son till she stopped letting me see him so I told her off and refused to pay her anymore money
 Quoting: patdeez84


no and the few times i asked for so much as diaper money, he freaked the fuck out. for some reason, he feels exempt from responsibility, even though he is a diehard christian. dude even has the keys to his church so he can go in and kneel at the altar in prayer EVERY morning before work.

Just don't ask him to pay a fucking dime for his child. Then his holier than thou demeanor turns into beast from hell.


And I don't want it. NOt from him. I'd rather starve myself if i had to....to take care of my child .... than take anything from that bastard
Goodbye, halcyon days...

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Whoa, thats tough, and usually the woman just chooses who has the most money..and tries to make him the Dad.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINAUGHTY


and that's why things like this are spectactular ;)


btw, i am 100% positive of the father of my son. The father himself even acknowledges he is the father.

I STILL haven't pursued child support.


In my opinion, if you want nothing to do with your child, then I damned sure don't want your money.
 Quoting: Only Me


Does he not even offer to help? If not thats kinda shitty I paid my x even tho I knew he wasn't my biological son till she stopped letting me see him so I told her off and refused to pay her anymore money
 Quoting: patdeez84


no and the few times i asked for so much as diaper money, he freaked the fuck out. for some reason, he feels exempt from responsibility, even though he is a diehard christian. dude even has the keys to his church so he can go in and kneel at the altar in prayer EVERY morning before work.

Just don't ask him to pay a fucking dime for his child. Then his holier than thou demeanor turns into beast from hell.


And I don't want it. NOt from him. I'd rather starve myself if i had to....to take care of my child .... than take anything from that bastard
 Quoting: Only Me


Thats messed up what a shitty person.
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“My idea of a perfect government is one guy who sits in a small room at a desk, and the only thing he’s allowed to decide is who to nuke. The man is chosen based on some kind of IQ test, and maybe also a physical tournament, like a decathlon. And women are brought to him, maybe ... when he desires them.” Ron Swanson
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I thought Id help some out here, cause maybe you all didnt know this was availiable and easy to do.

Cheek swab DNA test by mail is as low as a hundred bucks, no clinic involved, just takes a few seconds at home without the Mother knowing, You swab the babies cheeks , then yours, then you mail in the swabs they sent you.

They mail the results back if the baby is yours or not.

Its discreet and private packaging. And no one else has to know, but you and the mail to clinic.

Can be done with new born babies, or kids of all ages.

Good luck to all that could use the truth.
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My thoughts exactly!tounge
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To lighten the moment guys - ever see "Me Myself And Irene"?

The BBQ scene when Jim Carrey's co-worker tells him...

"Dammit, Charlie, those kids' dicks are bigger than them sausages!"

To which Jim replies, "hey now, those are MY children you are talking about."

Great movie.
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I'm all for this. My 3rd son is not my Ex's, and not only did he grow up knowing this, so did his siblings and my ex as well. It's only right. Why in the HELL would I put my son through even MORE crap, when my actions were enough already! He grew up knowing his 'dad' was not bio, and still his 'dad' was the man that raised him, and loved him. If he ever wants to get to know his bio dad, he certainly has that right. He is 18, and so far has had no real questions about his 'bio' dad. That's up to him. I've done enough damage. But, I never lied to anyone about it. Never.

Stupid women, lies are just going to catch up to you. How can you expect to be respected if you start off lying to these men! Your sons and daughters are MUCH smarter than you think. THEY deserve the truth, just as these men do! Act right, and step UP!
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I'm all for this. My 3rd son is not my Ex's, and not only did he grow up knowing this, so did his siblings and my ex as well. It's only right. Why in the HELL would I put my son through even MORE crap, when my actions were enough already! He grew up knowing his 'dad' was not bio, and still his 'dad' was the man that raised him, and loved him. If he ever wants to get to know his bio dad, he certainly has that right. He is 18, and so far has had no real questions about his 'bio' dad. That's up to him. I've done enough damage. But, I never lied to anyone about it. Never.

Stupid women, lies are just going to catch up to you. How can you expect to be respected if you start off lying to these men! Your sons and daughters are MUCH smarter than you think. THEY deserve the truth, just as these men do! Act right, and step UP!
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clappa


I didn't find out that my son wasn't actually my son till he was almost a year old.
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“We have allowed our nation to be over taxed and over regulated and overrun by bureaucrats, the founders would be ashamed of us for what we're putting up with.” Ron Paul
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“My idea of a perfect government is one guy who sits in a small room at a desk, and the only thing he’s allowed to decide is who to nuke. The man is chosen based on some kind of IQ test, and maybe also a physical tournament, like a decathlon. And women are brought to him, maybe ... when he desires them.” Ron Swanson
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I thought Id help some out here, cause maybe you all didnt know this was availiable and easy to do.

Cheek swab DNA test by mail is as low as a hundred bucks, no clinic involved, just takes a few seconds at home without the Mother knowing, You swab the babies cheeks , then yours, then you mail in the swabs they sent you.

They mail the results back if the baby is yours or not.

Its discreet and private packaging. And no one else has to know, but you and the mail to clinic.

Can be done with new born babies, or kids of all ages.

Good luck to all that could use the truth.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINAUGHTY


I thought Id help some out here, cause maybe you all didnt know this was availiable and easy to do.

Cheek swab DNA test by mail is as low as a hundred bucks, no clinic involved, just takes a few seconds at home without the Mother knowing, You swab the babies cheeks , then yours, then you mail in the swabs they sent you.

They mail the results back if the baby is yours or not.

Its discreet and private packaging. And no one else has to know, but you and the mail to clinic.

Can be done with new born babies, or kids of all ages.

Good luck to all that could use the truth.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINAUGHTY


Trying to put Maury and Springer out of business eh?
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no and the few times i asked for so much as diaper money, he freaked the fuck out. for some reason, he feels exempt from responsibility, even though he is a diehard christian. dude even has the keys to his church so he can go in and kneel at the altar in prayer EVERY morning before work.





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so was dennis rader. you know him right?? lmao
you're lucky. he's not a killer krusader neo-con kristian yet. watch out.
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Deceit should not be rewarded, let it be the fault and consequence to the guilty parties. Its a hard life lesson. I certainly don't want to raise a child that is not mine. In this age, culture and society, women have all the power concerning children.

If the woman chooses to have a abortion, your right as the father to prevent the procedure is null. If the father chooses not to be responsible he can not. It is a double standard.

It takes two to make a child [ with exceptions to modern science ] so both parents should have equal say. Ultimately the decision should fall to life and the resulting child be adopted by a barren screened male and female married couple not a homosexual couple. Every child by nature should have a loving mother and father.

Let it be a lesson to a whoring woman, there are consequences to sexual encounters and by natures design, woman contains the child but infanticide or murder is not the solution to your error. Learn the lesson of error and bare the consequences, yield to life.
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Deceit should not be rewarded, let it be the fault and consequence to the guilty parties. Its a hard life lesson. I certainly don't want to raise a child that is not mine. In this age, culture and society, women have all the power concerning children.

If the woman chooses to have a abortion, your right as the father to prevent the procedure is null. If the father chooses not to be responsible he can not. It is a double standard.

It takes two to make a child [ with exceptions to modern science ] so both parents should have equal say. Ultimately the decision should fall to life and the resulting child be adopted by a barren screened male and female married couple not a homosexual couple. Every child by nature should have a loving mother and father.

Let it be a lesson to a whoring woman, there are consequences to sexual encounters and by natures design, woman contains the child but infanticide or murder is not the solution to your error. Learn the lesson of error and bare the consequences, yield to life.
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Well, men have had all the power for a long time, geez, give women a break.

For every male who is raising a child not theirs, how many women are raising
children the father doesn't even know exist ? How many men posting here can
honestly say that they have NEVER potentially conceived a child who may have
been aborted, or who may be alive somewhere with no idea who its father is ?
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Deceit should not be rewarded, let it be the fault and consequence to the guilty parties. Its a hard life lesson. I certainly don't want to raise a child that is not mine. In this age, culture and society, women have all the power concerning children.

If the woman chooses to have a abortion, your right as the father to prevent the procedure is null. If the father chooses not to be responsible he can not. It is a double standard.

It takes two to make a child [ with exceptions to modern science ] so both parents should have equal say. Ultimately the decision should fall to life and the resulting child be adopted by a barren screened male and female married couple not a homosexual couple. Every child by nature should have a loving mother and father.

Let it be a lesson to a whoring woman, there are consequences to sexual encounters and by natures design, woman contains the child but infanticide or murder is not the solution to your error. Learn the lesson of error and bare the consequences, yield to life.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1430424


Well, men have had all the power for a long time, geez, give women a break.

For every male who is raising a child not theirs, how many women are raising
children the father doesn't even know exist ? How many men posting here can
honestly say that they have NEVER potentially conceived a child who may have
been aborted, or who may be alive somewhere with no idea who its father is ?
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What is more important? Your break or a innocent child. What did I say? Woman contain the child. Nature made it that way. If you can not support the child by yourself, adopt out to a loving male/female couple that can. Sorry, women have a womb. Women don't have to willingly spread there legs to every emotional humpy bump that floats around in their fantasy heads. If you do, you are adult enough to accept the risk. Rape and incest is a different story, however, women choose to spread and accept risk. Women choose to be fertilized. Knowledgeable women know men will hump anything with a heart beat, it is a biological imperative. Women of these days know better. Very little excuses for unintended pregnancies.
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Re: TO ALL MEN: IS YOUR CHILD REALLY YOURS OR NOT? HOW TO FIND OUT.
wow, is this a LOSER thread or what?





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