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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1482321 United States 07/26/2011 10:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why would an all knowing,loving god allow people to be created if they are predestined to go to hell? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1393840That's a question that only God can answer completely. The only thing I can think of as a reason why God created people whom He knew would end up in hell is because He imparted free will to mankind, so those people who go to hell do so by their choice. They had the same chance to choose heaven as the saints who go to heaven but, unlike the saints, they chose to do evil which took them to hell. There is no free will, if the bible is true. If a man tells a woman, "SUCK MY COCK OR I BURN YOU WITH THIS BLOW TORCH!" that is rape, not free will. No one would acquit such a man. The same thing goes here. "SUCK MY RELIGION OR BURN FOREVER!" is not free will, it's spiritual rape. We reap what we CHOOSE to sow. If we choose to sow good we reap heaven. If we choose to sow evil we reap hell. The choice is ours. |
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Sandi_T User ID: 1301649 United States 07/26/2011 10:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We reap what we CHOOSE to sow. If we choose to sow good we reap heaven. If we choose to sow evil we reap hell. The choice is ours. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482321There is no CHOICE when there is THREAT. Period. You cannot take away this fundamental fact. If you threaten a person, you have taken away their free will. Your "god" holds the blowtorch. Created the hell. Thus, your god wields the weapon that is the source of the threat. Fundamental fact of FREE WILL. In the presence of THREAT (or DURESS of any kind), FREE WILL IS NEGATED. Those are the facts. It is not a "reaping" because IT IS CREATED BY YOUR GOD and IT IS YOUR GOD WHO DOES THE THROWING into it. "SUCK MY RELIGION OR BURN FOREVER" is a clear and unadulterated THREAT. It is rape! No more requests in the "Strangest things" thread please. :hf: Past Lives requests thread: Thread: That Which Once Was: Past Lives |
Sandi_T User ID: 1301649 United States 07/26/2011 10:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is no hell. Who would create it? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1483242The devil/Satan wouldn't because he wouldn't put his own people there. And God wouldn't because He is all forgiving. This is bullshit. Where does it say God is 'All forgiving'? 1 John 4:8 New International Version (NIV) 8 Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love. It's very simple to see the lie in the Bible. There is one fundamental lie that renders all the rest of it utterly meaningless. Once you recognize the singular, most over-weaning flaw of the bible, any other discussion on it is all semantics. God cannot both be LOVE, or LOVING, and be what the bible describes. The god-monster of the bible is absolutely anything EXCEPT loving. Even the bible itself (hilariously) eliminates the god-monster of the bible as being loving: "Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always preserves." -- 1 Corinthians 13:4-7 The god monster of the bible: - Jealous god (does not envy? fail) - Arrogant and prideful, desirous of blind, unthinking faith (is not proud? fail; does not envy? fail) - Quick to anger, in fact kills EVERYONE, FOREVER, because of Adam and Eve (is not rude? fail; is kind? fail; is patient? fail; is not easily angered? fail; keeps no record of wrongs? fail; always protects? fail; always hopes? fail; always preserves? fail) - Approves of slavery, victims being forced to marry their rapists, the taking and enslaving of virgins during war, loves infanticide (Kind? fail; Not rude? fail; keeps no record of wrong? fail; does not delight in evil? fail; always protects? fail; always preserves? fail) - Commands genocide (Epic fail) - Commands infanticide (epic fail) - Supports stoning newborns (epic fail) - Lusts after blood sacrifices (epic fail again) - Demands one child be killed so he can stand to be around the others (epic fail) I could carry on at length in the ways that the bible's god-monster FAILS THE BIBLE'S OWN LIST OF WHAT LOVE IS!! Last Edited by Sandi_T on 07/26/2011 10:53 AM No more requests in the "Strangest things" thread please. :hf: Past Lives requests thread: Thread: That Which Once Was: Past Lives |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1264088 United States 07/26/2011 10:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is no hell. Who would create it? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1483242The devil/Satan wouldn't because he wouldn't put his own people there. And God wouldn't because He is all forgiving. This is bullshit. Where does it say God is 'All forgiving'? 1 John 4:8 New International Version (NIV) 8 Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love. It's very simple to see the lie in the Bible. There is one fundamental lie that renders all the rest of it utterly meaningless. Once you recognize the singular, most over-weaning flaw of the bible, any other discussion on it is all semantics. God cannot both be LOVE, or LOVING, and be what the bible describes. The god-monster of the bible is absolutely anything EXCEPT loving. Even the bible itself (hilariously) eliminates the god-monster of the bible as being loving: "Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always preserves." -- 1 Corinthians 13:4-7 The god monster of the bible: - Jealous god (does not envy? fail) - Arrogant and prideful, desirous of blind, unthinking faith (is not proud? fail; does not envy? fail) - Quick to anger, in fact kills EVERYONE, FOREVER, because of Adam and Eve (is not rude? fail; is kind? fail; is patient? fail; is not easily angered? fail; keeps no record of wrongs? fail; always protects? fail; always hopes? fail; always preserves? fail) - Approves of slavery, victims being forced to marry their rapists, the taking and enslaving of virgins during war, loves infanticide (Kind? fail; Not rude? fail; keeps no record of wrong? fail; does not delight in evil? fail; always protects? fail; always preserves? fail) - Commands genocide (Epic fail) - Commands infanticide (epic fail) - Supports stoning newborns (epic fail) - Lusts after blood sacrifices (epic fail again) - Demands one child be killed so he can stand to be around the others (epic fail) I could carry on at length in the ways that the bible's god-monster FAILS THE BIBLE'S OWN LIST OF WHAT LOVE IS!! First you are confusing jealousy with envy. The jealousy God feels is as the jealousy a man feels for his wife that has gone whoring with another man. He is jealous for his wife the church that whores with other Gods. And all the other things may be true in part, but who are you to question such a great thing as God???? Stupid fool. |
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Sandi_T User ID: 1301649 United States 07/26/2011 11:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 8 Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love. Quoting: Sandi_T"Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always preserves." -- 1 Corinthians 13:4-7 First you are confusing jealousy with envy. The jealousy God feels is as the jealousy a man feels for his wife that has gone whoring with another man. He is jealous for his wife the church that whores with other Gods. And all the other things may be true in part, but who are you to question such a great thing as God???? Stupid fool. I'm not arguing with the bible. The bible says it, itself. GOD IS LOVE. LOVE KEEPS NO RECORD OF WRONG. ARE YOU SAYING THE BIBLE LIES?!?! No more requests in the "Strangest things" thread please. :hf: Past Lives requests thread: Thread: That Which Once Was: Past Lives |
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Sandi_T User ID: 1301649 United States 07/26/2011 11:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | DID JESUS LIE? Or do you just not give a fuck what that Jesus dude tells you?! Typical Christian. Can't even be bothered to obey the god you claim you dare not question. You're not supposed to call people stupid fools, you asshole. But you're going to try to school me on not disrespecting the fake "god" of the bible? I don't disrespect nor question THE REAL GOD. I disrespect and question the unholy monster of the bible. A "demon" if ever there was one!! No more requests in the "Strangest things" thread please. :hf: Past Lives requests thread: Thread: That Which Once Was: Past Lives |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1481375 Brazil 07/26/2011 12:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The paintings are a misrepresentation of hell, where demons are torturing people. What the bible describes is that they'll be thrown in hell for eternal suffering too. Who criticizes the Bible based on these paintings is being fooled with things that i think should be obvious in the ocident, but maybe i'm wrong about this. There are probably more misrepresentations than this one, but I will not take the time to see the whole video, I don't think it deserves this time. A God that is only love would not create hell, but instead could forever watch/allow his creation suffering endlessly and unjustly due to evil and injustices and do anything to punish or even simply stop??? Isn't this at least a mini-hell of sorts where His creation would claim for justice and never be heard? And where's the love in this, if this would never end??? Or maybe love implies justice and punishment of evil someday? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1218203 United States 07/26/2011 01:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus is a terrorist. Quoting: Sandi_THe drags terrified people down to "hell" and shows them grotesque tortures. I am so sick and tired of you spiritual rapists. People have the visions they expect to have. She obviously is a christian only out of fear, or she would have experienced only the love and beauty of heaven. Visions, even NDEs, are modified by your expectations and beliefs. It's very clear that all this girl expects from "god" is evil, violence, and torture... but only for everyone but her, of course! Disgusting that someone has shoved such lies about God down her throat. For the rest of her life, she will live in terror of God, and never know the true love that can be experienced in a healthy relationship. Fills me with sorrow to know so many people are willingly depriving others of that loving relationship, free from abuse and threats of violence. This is so true. If you read enough NDEs and OBEs it becomes obvious that some people are shown a different experience than others -- and the breadth of that experience depends greatly on their readiness to to be more spiritually open to love. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1367086 Canada 07/26/2011 01:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus is a terrorist. Quoting: Sandi_THe drags terrified people down to "hell" and shows them grotesque tortures. I am so sick and tired of you spiritual rapists. People have the visions they expect to have. She obviously is a christian only out of fear, or she would have experienced only the love and beauty of heaven. Visions, even NDEs, are modified by your expectations and beliefs. It's very clear that all this girl expects from "god" is evil, violence, and torture... but only for everyone but her, of course! Disgusting that someone has shoved such lies about God down her throat. For the rest of her life, she will live in terror of God, and never know the true love that can be experienced in a healthy relationship. Fills me with sorrow to know so many people are willingly depriving others of that loving relationship, free from abuse and threats of violence. I am also partial to the belief that whatever your mind chooses to focus on will be your settings/plots/stories in the afterlife. I've chosen to hold and maintain a belief of enlightenment and reincarnation to re-enlighten my next life so I am able to come back here to tell the people that your afterlife is what you make it, just like this one. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1446888 United States 07/26/2011 01:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is no hell. Who would create it? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1483242The devil/Satan wouldn't because he wouldn't put his own people there. And God wouldn't because He is all forgiving. This is bullshit. Those who hate and reject God, go there. All-forgiving ? Um, NO. He forgives ONLY those who repent of their sins, not those who revelled in them. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1218203 United States 07/26/2011 01:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I love how so many CHristians claim to know everything about God, what is on His mind, what He would do in a given situation, who He would forgive... Without realizeing that by claiming to know everything that they are invalidating their own concept of God by making him nothing more than a super-powerful huiman, with human emotions & motivations. God is all-knowing and all-powerful... he is not all-KNOWABLE. The moment you put God into a box so that you can understand him better (so you can feel better about him) you limit him and that is the very moment that he stops being God and becomes something else akin to a figment of your imagination. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1483482 United Kingdom 07/26/2011 01:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus is a terrorist. Quoting: Sandi_THe drags terrified people down to "hell" and shows them grotesque tortures. I am so sick and tired of you spiritual rapists. People have the visions they expect to have. She obviously is a christian only out of fear, or she would have experienced only the love and beauty of heaven. Visions, even NDEs, are modified by your expectations and beliefs. It's very clear that all this girl expects from "god" is evil, violence, and torture... but only for everyone but her, of course! Disgusting that someone has shoved such lies about God down her throat. For the rest of her life, she will live in terror of God, and never know the true love that can be experienced in a healthy relationship. Fills me with sorrow to know so many people are willingly depriving others of that loving relationship, free from abuse and threats of violence. well said. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1483532 United States 07/26/2011 01:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus is a terrorist. Quoting: Sandi_THe drags terrified people down to "hell" and shows them grotesque tortures. I am so sick and tired of you spiritual rapists. People have the visions they expect to have. She obviously is a christian only out of fear, or she would have experienced only the love and beauty of heaven. Visions, even NDEs, are modified by your expectations and beliefs. It's very clear that all this girl expects from "god" is evil, violence, and torture... but only for everyone but her, of course! Disgusting that someone has shoved such lies about God down her throat. For the rest of her life, she will live in terror of God, and never know the true love that can be experienced in a healthy relationship. Fills me with sorrow to know so many people are willingly depriving others of that loving relationship, free from abuse and threats of violence. Yes, this girl was easily manipulated as so many are. Most likely from a young age. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1472198 United States 07/26/2011 02:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you know what i dont get about hell? if hell was created for fallen angels, then why are they not being tortured? infact they are the ones who are doing the torturing and are allowed to and fro earth. seems as though demon are having lots of fun and are not the ones being in pain. yeah, mind boggling huh? im a christian btw |
SevenThunders User ID: 1202063 United States 07/26/2011 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1 John 4:8 Quoting: Sandi_TNew International Version (NIV) 8 Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love. It's very simple to see the lie in the Bible. There is one fundamental lie that renders all the rest of it utterly meaningless. Once you recognize the singular, most over-weaning flaw of the bible, any other discussion on it is all semantics. God cannot both be LOVE, or LOVING, and be what the bible describes. The god-monster of the bible is absolutely anything EXCEPT loving. Even the bible itself (hilariously) eliminates the god-monster of the bible as being loving: "Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always preserves." -- 1 Corinthians 13:4-7 The god monster of the bible: - Jealous god (does not envy? fail) - Arrogant and prideful, desirous of blind, unthinking faith (is not proud? fail; does not envy? fail) - Quick to anger, in fact kills EVERYONE, FOREVER, because of Adam and Eve (is not rude? fail; is kind? fail; is patient? fail; is not easily angered? fail; keeps no record of wrongs? fail; always protects? fail; always hopes? fail; always preserves? fail) - Approves of slavery, victims being forced to marry their rapists, the taking and enslaving of virgins during war, loves infanticide (Kind? fail; Not rude? fail; keeps no record of wrong? fail; does not delight in evil? fail; always protects? fail; always preserves? fail) - Commands genocide (Epic fail) - Commands infanticide (epic fail) - Supports stoning newborns (epic fail) - Lusts after blood sacrifices (epic fail again) - Demands one child be killed so he can stand to be around the others (epic fail) I could carry on at length in the ways that the bible's god-monster FAILS THE BIBLE'S OWN LIST OF WHAT LOVE IS!! God will not tolerate sin in his kingdom. It is a capital offense. But God does love us and shows his love by paying the death penalty for us, by dying on the cross. That's good enough for me. I think he's demonstrated his love. He's not willing that any perish in hell and so he sent his son. As for all the other 'crimes' you accuse God of, you've misrepresented every incident to feed your hatred for the God of the Bible. Good luck with that on judgment day. With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1229308 United States 07/26/2011 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | PS, Matt. 5:22 but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. Quoting: Sandi_TDID JESUS LIE? Or do you just not give a fuck what that Jesus dude tells you?! Typical Christian. Can't even be bothered to obey the god you claim you dare not question. You're not supposed to call people stupid fools, you asshole. But you're going to try to school me on not disrespecting the fake "god" of the bible? I don't disrespect nor question THE REAL GOD. I disrespect and question the unholy monster of the bible. A "demon" if ever there was one!! Sandi, I so admire your patience with the indoctrinated. I know I dont have that kind of patience. They'd need a life time of deprogramming to get over these beliefs that are so firmly rooted into them. Carry on Lady ... keep telling the TRUTH. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1470809 United States 07/26/2011 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And to those who are pointing out that there is no choice where there is a threat -- you are correct. It IS spiritual rape. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1229308 United States 07/26/2011 02:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When I hear that it's "breaking God's heart" I just roll my eyes. If it really is "breaking his heart" to see all the souls in hell, then he could give people as many chances, before and after death, as they needed to repent and come to him. Everyone wins in that scenario. But if he doesn't do that, either he can't, and is not all-powerful, or won't, and is therefore a terrible, malicious, vengeful sadist. Either way, not a god I want much truck with. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1470809And to those who are pointing out that there is no choice where there is a threat -- you are correct. It IS spiritual rape. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1483621 United States 07/26/2011 02:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this video is evil, whoever made it is going to hell , how about that.. Why even put souls in people in this secret society hidden knowledge world just to send them to hell when they are forced to become products of their own environment..If this video is true than probably 5 people in all of human history didn't go to hell. So people are out their trying to spitefully hurt and kill you and we have to sit here with our hands tied behind our backs thinking no bad thoughts about them... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1483624 United States 07/26/2011 02:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus is the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1483058"Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." That means he is the king of kings. Leader of all leaders. So that would mean he put them in power, like hitler for example. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1371470 United States 07/26/2011 02:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Isn't physical life punishment enough? Incarnating forever. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1450970Exactly! That is the true hell is not this crap. They want people to believe this is what will get them when no it is actually being sentenced to exist forever in some mad man's brain called God. Time may be up on the 26,000 year cycles, the Ouroborous will not be allowed to bite its tail forever....whose energy do you think powers that realm? Why waste energy on those that don't believe in the Energy that powers them, they even scorn the Energy. FREE.... [link to www.e-sword.net] read the books Matthew, Mark ,Luke and John, the Gospel so many scorn yet never bother to read nor learn. The books are contained in the New Testament, use "The Good News Bible", it is easy reading...use the FREE included commentaries. These 4 books will save your life if you so chose and believe. They are eyewitness accounts of the Word of God aka Jesus Christ of Nazareth as he walked the Earth. only 120 pages or so, read them then make up your mind. Can't beat the price $0.00. |