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*** SOLAR FLARE POWER GRID FAILURE EXPLAINED *** Read on and be prepared

 
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Listen up.

If we seen an EMP from the sun, there is not a clamping device on Earth that can clamp that fast. In addition, the grid has substations all over the USA. They can be manually controlled and remote controlled. All the computers connected to the remote substations and all the solid state switching gear will get fried. Only small villages and towns will have power, mostly villages or cities where hydro dams are located, but what good is it if most your IC electronics are fried.

Keep this in mind and do not forget this.

-Nuclear reactors use pumps to send water through the reactors.
-NRC law says this power must come from the grid
-When the grid fails, the pumps get their power from backup generators.
-Most generators are lowest bidder generators, and are garbage.
-In 2003 when the east coast when down, around 14 reactors had issues with their backup generators. The grid came up in the nick of time.
- VERY IMPORTANT! even if the generators hold, there is only 7 days of diesel fuel on site. 7 DAYS!. Imagine trying to get fuel into a nuke plant WITH NO GRID? NO FUEL STATIONS? No cell phones? (cell phones go down when the grid goes).

It will take great men doing great things to make this happen. At all costs we must do the following.

1) Get the grid back up as fast as possible.
2) Get fuel assembly lines to the backup generators
3) Use teamwork like never before. Take leadership if need be. EDUCATE one another on the conditions.
4) Ignore "authorities" and people take and keep control of their own cities (look at what "authorities" are doing to the Japanese...
5) Use geiger counters at all times.
6) Have and take Potassium iodide.

The women will need to bring food to the men, the youth will need to take care of the home, and the men will need to be Johnny on the spot. TEAM WORK. ADAPT and OVERCOME.
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people plugged into the matrix will do anything, give their lifes to protect it.

When this happens (failure of Nuclear Plants) dont count on it that you can set up this prisonsystem back up. It wont happen again. When this "grid" goes it is meant to come down to never return! You think you own this planet? you dont, you are a grain of sand!

This system was set up to inprison millions of the worlds population, only the few that are tired and want to see it gone will understand and they are waiting, baiting their breath because these know that it is the chance to build a better world! Down with this system I say and no more of it.

These peeps are called "doomers" and some of them hang on GLP and seriously discuss and getting prepared to bug out.

They know what time it is... only plugged in sleepers like you think this worldsystem is worth saving and you are the once who would give your lifes to protect it... but there is nothing to protect anymore...Its over! just a matter of time!
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At this point, I think all we can do is sit and wait. I'm just as worried as you guys. My mother has a pacemaker. Anyone think of those? She lives here with us, so I'm going to be checking on her all through the night. Hubby started puking about an hour ago. He had a real bad headache and took 4 aleve like a dumb butt. I'm hoping the aleve upset his tummy and it's not a precursor to something else. Let's all just hope for the best.
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Aye AC, time will tell.hf
 Quoting: ~Andariel~


Four Aleve for a HEADACHE? Are you kidding? Those things are to be used for emergency only, maybe one, just one. Those things will destroy your stomach, they will literally kill you.

For a HEADACHE? Nothing works like cold or heat for a headache. Never, ever take an Aleve or Tylenol. Even aspirin should be used sparingly, very sparingly. Probably a cup of coffee and some cold cloths or hot cloths (try both and see which works best) would be all he needs.

Please. Your liver has enough to deal with nowadays. Those OTC pills are very, very hard on the liver.rant
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Not quite, although 4 aleve is alot I reguarly take 3-4 ibuprofen 800mgs for a headache. I've taken upwards of 3,000mgs of ibuprofen and 6,000mgs of APAP in a 24 hour period with no liver damage. Of course, with repeated abuse liver damage will definitely happen.
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Listen up.

If we seen an EMP from the sun, there is not a clamping device on Earth that can clamp that fast. In addition, the grid has substations all over the USA. They can be manually controlled and remote controlled. All the computers connected to the remote substations and all the solid state switching gear will get fried. Only small villages and towns will have power, mostly villages or cities where hydro dams are located, but what good is it if most your IC electronics are fried.

Keep this in mind and do not forget this.

-Nuclear reactors use pumps to send water through the reactors.
-NRC law says this power must come from the grid
-When the grid fails, the pumps get their power from backup generators.
-Most generators are lowest bidder generators, and are garbage.
-In 2003 when the east coast when down, around 14 reactors had issues with their backup generators. The grid came up in the nick of time.
- VERY IMPORTANT! even if the generators hold, there is only 7 days of diesel fuel on site. 7 DAYS!. Imagine trying to get fuel into a nuke plant WITH NO GRID? NO FUEL STATIONS? No cell phones? (cell phones go down when the grid goes).

It will take great men doing great things to make this happen. At all costs we must do the following.

1) Get the grid back up as fast as possible.
2) Get fuel assembly lines to the backup generators
3) Use teamwork like never before. Take leadership if need be. EDUCATE one another on the conditions.
4) Ignore "authorities" and people take and keep control of their own cities (look at what "authorities" are doing to the Japanese...
5) Use geiger counters at all times.
6) Have and take Potassium iodide.

The women will need to bring food to the men, the youth will need to take care of the home, and the men will need to be Johnny on the spot. TEAM WORK. ADAPT and OVERCOME.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1107716



people plugged into the matrix will do anything, give their lifes to protect it.

When this happens (failure of Nuclear Plants) dont count on it that you can set up this prisonsystem back up. It wont happen again. When this "grid" goes it is meant to come down to never return! You think you own this planet? you dont, you are a grain of sand!

This system was set up to inprison millions of the worlds population, only the few that are tired and want to see it gone will understand and they are waiting, baiting their breath because these know that it is the chance to build a better world! Down with this system I say and no more of it.

These peeps are called "doomers" and some of them hang on GLP and seriously discuss and getting prepared to bug out.

They know what time it is... only plugged in sleepers like you think this worldsystem is worth saving and you are the once who would give your lifes to protect it... but there is nothing to protect anymore...Its over! just a matter of time!
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BRAVO sir.
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Isn't there a warning on Ibuprofen that states if you take too much it WILL eat the lining out of your stomach..?yoda

Also, after smoking a cigarette- it kinda tastes like I licked a battery from being outside, but I saw no strange things happening in the sky.

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How long would it take to rebuild our infrastructure if this scenario were to occur? Imagine the cost to do this. WOuld be nail in coffin for the WORLD
 Quoting: theDtrain


Someone said up to 10 years...hiding
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That's IF the population is willing to "endure" their jackass government, which most are not.
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The us "government" is soo fucking DELUSIONAL that they entertain everybody cooperating with their stupid fucking useless endeavorts. Won't they be in for an ugly suprise....actually, a suprise only for the most delusional.
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How long would it take to rebuild our infrastructure if this scenario were to occur? Imagine the cost to do this. WOuld be nail in coffin for the WORLD
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10 to 20 years. Depending on the extent of the grid damaged as well as whether the rest of the world suffers heavy damage and infrastructure collapse. We just don't have anywhere near enough replacement parts in stock here in the States to repair the grid should the damage be extensive. Most of that shit is made in China or in other countries... and if they too are suffering from damage, then, well, guess what happens to us?

This is the WORST catastrophic scenario imaginable. We will be killing each other off instead of working together to survive. Many will die slowly, of hunger, loss of meds, disease and bullets. Many will suffer VERY much before dying.

If you have not read the book "One Second After" - it is a MUST.
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So those solar flares should have impacted the earth by now right? There was a video that had a guy from NOAA saying they would hit "midnight Colorado time" and its almost 2 am there.
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So those solar flares should have impacted the earth by now right? There was a video that had a guy from NOAA saying they would hit "midnight Colorado time" and its almost 2 am there.
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Go outside and spend 15-20 minutes walking around.
Can you taste the electricity too?
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My bf's iPhone wasn't working all day. After hours of troubleshooting and reboots AT&T finally put up a message that they were down and didn't expect a time to be back up. His cell service has been working again since maybe 7 or 8pm, though... Anyways I was wondering if perhaps AT&T outtage was related to cme ( he's in west Los Angeles). Also just read on here somewhere that Dish Network sat TV is down right now.
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Not quite, although 4 aleve is alot I reguarly take 3-4 ibuprofen 800mgs for a headache. I've taken upwards of 3,000mgs of ibuprofen and 6,000mgs of APAP in a 24 hour period with no liver damage. Of course, with repeated abuse liver damage will definitely happen.


Your liver won't hurt or tell you it's damaged. It will just stop being able to do what it does -- which is filter all the toxins out of your body, as well as a host of other things. So you can't take ibuprofen and tylenol and pills like that. You are destroying your liver. You should try to care for your liver instead of abusing it. Sorry to preach, but if you knew how damaging to your liver that was you would not do it. You should Google up and research the effect some of the OTC drugs have on the liver. Tylenol and ibuprofen are two of the worst OTC drugs on the liver. It's not a joke. If you read up on it you'll see what I mean. Turns the liver into pudding. Try using heat or cold, one of those will work. You take those things in an emergency, not handfuls all the time, unless you are not wanting to hang around this planet very long.
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How the fuck did we go from solar doom to talking about aleve? Where is the solar doom?
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Those CMEs are not punctual...
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We hear about the possibility of power grids failure due to massive solar flares and resulting CME's.
Here is an easy explanation on how the voltage spike increase is created due to such an event.


powergr3

Space weather "storms" can cause problems on Earth. They can even mess up our systems that make electricity and that deliver electricity to peoples' houses. Sometimes really big space weather storms can cause massive blackouts over large areas. In March of 1989 six million people in eastern Canada lost their electrical power for nine hours because of really big space weather storm.

powergr1

Our electrical systems are designed to use alternating current (AC) electricity. Space weather disturbances can cause large flows of direct current (DC) electricity in power transmission wires. Electrical systems use very high voltage electricity to transmit power over long distances from power plants to peoples' homes and to businesses. However, high voltage electricity is dangerous, so the power is converted to lower voltage before it is delivered to homes and other users. Transformers are devices that convert high voltage electricity to lower voltage electricity.

powergr2

Transformers work fine with AC electricity, but can be damaged or destroyed if too much DC electricity flows into them. That's what can happen during big space weather storms. If many transformers fail at once, the whole electrical system over a large area can go down. That's how space weather can cause a blackout.

 Quoting: ~Andariel~


As always, very informative and simple to understand. Thanks for all your work ~Andariel~ on this and your other posts too ... much appreciated (5*)
Kind Regards,
Dan
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DOOM FAIL!!!! Nothing Happened!
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DOOM FAIL!!!! Nothing Happened!
 Quoting: cableguy30


^This^ +2minutes, nada! Maybe we cannot predict such things, they just pretend to know when something is going to happen. Its like weather forecasting, they really don't know!
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DOOM FAIL!!!! Nothing Happened!
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Must be able to think past your nose. I saw a similar post from you on another thread from NINzrez ( [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] and <<LOOK`n thru YOU>> answer to you was:

LOL...it hasn`t hit yet...trust me you`ll know when it does by the mag charts...

Are you trying to make a point?

Go find another thread to SHILL...
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I hope nothing will happen, but we will not know until atleast Midnight CET ... my $.02
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Just think how beautifully serene and quiet it would be.

Perhaps it would be a boone for mankind and not his undoing.

Neighbors, family and friends actually talking with each other.
Children playing outside, without the threat of nuclear radiation.

I would welcome a peaceful lifestyle.
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DOOM FAIL!!!! Nothing Happened!
 Quoting: cableguy30


Must be able to think past your nose. I saw a similar post from you on another thread from NINzrez ( [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] and <<LOOK`n thru YOU>> answer to you was:

LOL...it hasn`t hit yet...trust me you`ll know when it does by the mag charts...

Are you trying to make a point?

Go find another thread to SHILL...
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skull_fing They must be off then, bz is up and wind speeds are down! Was supposed to be here at 6 am so we will see ! No shrill just disappointing! WANTED DOOM!!
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with the solar storm we are expecting...
5* and pin suggest
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I suggested...then realized I was a mod lol
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Lol...you nutcase! laugh
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The electecity was so thick in the air here this early morning that as I removed a rain cover from my Jeep a spark jumped from the tie down to the frame.

Like 7" from the midday sun.
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How long would it take to rebuild our infrastructure if this scenario were to occur? Imagine the cost to do this. WOuld be nail in coffin for the WORLD
 Quoting: theDtrain


actually fema has plastic ones, its okay.
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Whats the link to the mag charts? Thanks in advance
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Sorry to use your post OP, but this could be rellated?
Thread: Kilauea - Rivers Of Lava Flow From Kilauea Volcano In Hawaii
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Whats the link to the mag charts? Thanks in advance
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[link to www2.nict.go.jp]

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov]

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Here is a link to a Project Camelot letter about a near future (3-4 yrs from article date in 2009) electrical storm knocking out power. I remember reading it back then, and saved it for future reference. I think it could tie into this thread a bit.

[link to projectcamelot.org]





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