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EINSTEIN WRONG: Particles Clocked Moving Faster Than Light at CERN

 
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EINSTEIN WRONG: Particles Clocked Moving Faster Than Light at CERN
One of the absolute pillars of science - that nothing can go faster than the speed of light - appears to have been upended by a sub-atomic particle in an experiment in Switzerland.

Scientists at the world's largest physics lab outside Geneva said on Thursday they have clocked neutrinos travelling faster than light.

That's something that according to Albert Einstein's 1905 special theory of relativity - the famous E=mc2 equation - just doesn't happen.

[link to news.ninemsn.com.au]
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If proven correct this shatters mainstream physics foundations.
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All - people are getting hyped about this and missing the obvious. If true, time is SLOWING DOWN....thus allowing the particle to travel 'faster'.

What if something is going on with our sense of time, and light in our section of space time has slowed down.... think about it
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One of the absolute pillars of science - that nothing can go faster than the speed of light - appears to have been upended by a sub-atomic particle in an experiment in Switzerland.

Scientists at the world's largest physics lab outside Geneva said on Thursday they have clocked neutrinos travelling faster than light.

That's something that according to Albert Einstein's 1905 special theory of relativity - the famous E=mc2 equation - just doesn't happen.

[link to news.ninemsn.com.au]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1516044


Interesting news if fully confirmed by peer review, and will just add a new dimension to further scientific study..it might supercede older theories, but that's the fun, because nothing in science is ever conclusive or set in stone unless fully proven.
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With all due respect, Einstein THEORISED that nothing could go faster than light. It's only all his concrete-headed followers who pretend it's a law and shout down anyone who dares say otherwise.

Einstein went to his grave unsatisfied with his own theories. He just got a Jesus-like following after his death.
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One of the absolute pillars of science - that nothing can go faster than the speed of light - appears to have been upended by a sub-atomic particle in an experiment in Switzerland.

Scientists at the world's largest physics lab outside Geneva said on Thursday they have clocked neutrinos travelling faster than light.

That's something that according to Albert Einstein's 1905 special theory of relativity - the famous E=mc2 equation - just doesn't happen.

[link to news.ninemsn.com.au]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1516044


Wouldn't entanglement theory have already suggested that?

Also; couldn't a 'thought' travel faster than the speed of light?
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Einstein isn't wrong, any more than Newton was wrong
because of Einstein -- Physics has just found *more*,
that's all.
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All - people are getting hyped about this and missing the obvious. If true, time is SLOWING DOWN....thus allowing the particle to travel 'faster'.

What if something is going on with our sense of time, and light in our section of space time has slowed down.... think about it
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1542626


Time is a constant but clocks aren't so the clocks could be slowing down but Time can't. wait It's known as a Timordial Illusion, which is what occurred with the Time Dialation experiments. clocksmiley

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duh! I've been saying that for years now, though nobody has been listening! How can space bend? It doesn't! Space and time are both concepts! Concepts don't bend, only physical objects do!!
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Scientific theories exist for the sole purpose of being disproved. Why should Einstein's be any different?
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Science is bullshit , people don't know shit . Most of it is speculation .
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what, a Jewish man who created hell on the earth that we all must fear, wrong?....pfff'racist
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All science is theory...the fact that people believe that we (as a society) know everything is complete B.S.

For the longest time, people believed that the sun revolved around the earth.

This is just another step to realizing that we know very little about ourselves and the Universe.

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A man who claims to know nothing, knows all.
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Supposed 'Laws' get broken all the time .
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So what we know based on the speed of light is now wrong?
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Re: EINSTEIN WRONG: Particles Clocked Moving Faster Than Light at CERN
Another step towards preparing us for E.T. disclosure?

The big argument has always been travel between stars and the time it would take.
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Re: EINSTEIN WRONG: Particles Clocked Moving Faster Than Light at CERN
Greetings:

The "Speed Of Light" Is A Terrestrial Made Up Thing ... A "Constant" In Which Terrestrial Scientists Can Build A Concensus ... Can Make Agreement !!

"Light" Of That Which You Call Such Energy ... Is Variable In "Perceived" "Speed, Distance & Motion" !! ... It Acts & Reacts Differently To Various Things/Phenomena ... As Such The "Travel Time" Is Always Different ... Therefore There Is No Constant !!

As To "Albert Einstein" His Works Were Not His Own ... Only Works & Theories That Were From "Other Sources" ... Namely Other Beings/Persons !! ... Of His "Name Recognition" Credit For Such "Theories" ... Belong To & With The Originators ... Not The Onces Who Had "Moved In" & Took Their Ideas !!

Farewell For Now !!

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Re: EINSTEIN WRONG: Particles Clocked Moving Faster Than Light at CERN
One of the absolute pillars of science - that nothing can go faster than the speed of light - appears to have been upended by a sub-atomic particle in an experiment in Switzerland.

Scientists at the world's largest physics lab outside Geneva said on Thursday they have clocked neutrinos travelling faster than light.

That's something that according to Albert Einstein's 1905 special theory of relativity - the famous E=mc2 equation - just doesn't happen.

[link to news.ninemsn.com.au]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1516044


Wouldn't entanglement theory have already suggested that?

Also; couldn't a 'thought' travel faster than the speed of light?
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For such a nut job looking avatar, your pretty smart.

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I'd like to see this experiment done again with a camera filming it...

In other words, where's the PROVE of this claim?

Sure, I believe anything...
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So what we know based on the speed of light is now wrong?
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Yep. Sounds about right. Lets get into the Time Portal subject
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All science is theory...the fact that people believe that we (as a society) know everything is complete B.S.

For the longest time, people believed that the sun revolved around the earth.

This is just another step to realizing that we know very little about ourselves and the Universe.

"A man who claims to know everything, knows nothing.
A man who claims to know nothing, knows all.
"
- Confucius
 Quoting: Morning Eagle


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Re: EINSTEIN WRONG: Particles Clocked Moving Faster Than Light at CERN
Einstein was not wrong, his theory was incomplete. They are still trying to complete it.
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So now, we can't sarcastically call someone who f's up an Einstein. It will have to be a literal comment.
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Re: EINSTEIN WRONG: Particles Clocked Moving Faster Than Light at CERN
SOMETHING IS FISHY HERE!

How the do you measure something going faster than light? For example, why would you know to even allow the measurement of such a ridiculous notion of faster than light travel.

Something tells me they knew that faster than light travel is possible.

Either way, worrth the 15 Billion for CERN
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Einstein was not wrong, his theory was incomplete. They are still trying to complete it.
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Exactly!

Science is happy to be proven wrong. The pursuit of knowledge through fact finding, and disproving, is the only way to reach truth.

Assuming, or just believing, is the realm of the fool.
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Einstein was not wrong, his theory was incomplete. They are still trying to complete it.
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among other things, Einstein wasn't working
with 11 dimensions and parallel universes like Physics is today.
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duh! I've been saying that for years now, though nobody has been listening! How can space bend? It doesn't! Space and time are both concepts! Concepts don't bend, only physical objects do!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1714497


Space is REAL!

Time is REAL!

To travel faster than light speed, you fold Space by traveling THRU Time, because Time is a separate dimension from Space. thumbs By dew'n that, you can transverse any amount of Space in finite. math_smiley

What dew you think Stargates are? abduct

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With all due respect, Einstein THEORISED that nothing could go faster than light. It's only all his concrete-headed followers who pretend it's a law and shout down anyone who dares say otherwise.

Einstein went to his grave unsatisfied with his own theories. He just got a Jesus-like following after his death.
 Quoting: 13.0.0.0.0


No, you don't understand the definition of the word "theory" when it comes to science. Hint: it is almost exactly the opposite meaning that you are trying to use.

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