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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 3769071 United States 10/22/2011 12:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The rapporteur met with the editor of this website several months ago. Sometime during the 2 hour discussion progressed, I asked what profession he carried on. Only after some insistence became apparent that he was working professionally in the cockpit as a pilot. I then gently brought the topic to chemtrails and asked him if he this term and the underlying assumptions that we are dealing with artificially-produced chemical contrails, are known. Then came first hesitantly, "Yes, I have a lot to the Internet read ". When I made it clear that I am the editor of the website [link to www.chemtrails-was] info.de, and wanted to know how he stands and what he may have even seen from the cockpit, he told me: "I first doubted whether the arguments of those reports that over chemtrails correspond mainly to be distributed on the Internet, the facts. But then I will personally experienced something that I now believe that chemicals sprayed from aircraft, which produce those enduring 'contrails', which we call chemtrails - for any purpose whatsoever . Since I did not take notes during the conversation, and wanted to clarify some details, I asked the pilots a few weeks later, at a detailed record of what happened. The written description was made on 17.08.09 is reproduced below as a literal transcript. Strange climb instructions by flight control center "After taking off from Frankfurt airport ... we were in route climb north of Nuremberg. It was around 14.00 clock in the afternoon. The visibility was very good, we did not fly through clouds. On the day there was an extensive low pressure system located over Germany. In passing through one of around 11-12.000 foot is then passed to the next radar sector ', which then gives further climb free. These shares'll be finding generally handled quite generous. We shall then by 'Munich Radar' is usually released on the same flight next area 250, that is 25,000 feet. Not so on this day. The following releases were made in 1000 always increments. That was then, the statement of the radar controllers 'Climb 14,000 feet', then the next 'Climb 15,000 feet', 'Climb 16,000 feet'. We knew that we had to decide on an air traffic which have approximately the same flight path had to, but could not or would grow more slowly than we ourselves could have done. On the so-called TCAS (Traffic Collision and Avoidance System), a monitoring tool with which you can watch the skies for one's own plane around, then we noticed a traffic on our right and a little ahead of us. The weather was good, we were visually watch for the expected traffic crossing over us. This was not long in coming. Chemtrailsausbringung by 2 cargo aircraft of the type C-17 Globemaster from the wings It was a heavy transport aircraft of the American type C-17 Globemaster at a height of 18,000 feet. (6000 m) Based on our observation of the sky using the TCAS system, we suspected that a machine of this type in a few miles farther apart in the same amount behind. This we could not form visually, and I am sure that a second machine was available. What do we make up accounts but was that the plane a thick 'contrails' left behind. At this altitude and the prevailing season a 'not to be expected phenomenon. Planes that were flying in dense airspace and were still much higher still see clearly, or to be contrails behind them. So it HAS to have it done here, at an output of substances, which can not be explained by the conventional engine exhaust. (Addendum to note: At the oral argument previously made decidedly description, I asked the pilot whether the banding is 17erfolgt from the engines of the Globemaster C-. He replied: "Absolutely not!" The substances of which depicted the Chemtrails formed, so came from nozzles in the wings of the cargo planes, probably in the range of engines) Other observations made in this regard pilots Chemtrailszunahme In my daily professional life (as a pilot's note) I notice that this 'spraying' grow significantly. This spreading operations, which are referred to by the media, often referred to as 'high Nebelfelder' I've seen all summer of 2009 on, mostly at altitudes of about 18,000 -35,000 feet (6000 - 12000 m). How does the fog of chemtrails from contrails of smoke at the height It is often not easy to distinguish a vapor from engine exhaust from a chemtrail too. But every day I see planes in the sky high, sometimes at close range if they cross the flight paths. One can clearly see how a contrail looks like and looks like a chemtrail. Especially the behavior in the air can be distinguished. While a vapor trail is somewhat light and thin, moving usually quite quickly dissipated, see chemtrails "heavy, sluggish and somehow close out." And so they behave. It happens that we leave on a day in the morning a specific airport, on its surroundings chemtrails have been applied. Let us return then hours later to land, there are still the chemtrails, and have spread into a great gray veil, while in the wider environment far different weather and wind there was in place. |
uscrusader1 User ID: 1242940 United States 10/22/2011 03:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.naturalmedicine.com] Quoting: WAKE THE F* UP 3769071 excerpt from interesting article: I’ve come to believe that Chemtrails are extremely important to the operation of HAARP and other programs. The military is 35 to 45 years ahead of what is revealed to the population. Chemtrails are likely used to track armies, move viruses around . . . nanotechnology may use Chemtrails, etc. These topics are gone into more detail with a little digging in the links below. How does HAARP play into all this? The HAARP array is based just north of Fairbanks, Alaska. For me to go into HAARP would fill volumes, same as the mountain of evidence for the use of Chemtrails. However, the more you read, see, and hear the facts, you will then be more able to decide for yourself what is right. From my research, I believe that HAARP uses the Aluminium in Chemtrails as an electrical wire. If so, this may be why HAARP can travel the world. Once trails are laid, the Aluminium could be up there for up to two years. Keep laying the trails, and you keep advancing. We now know that HAARP can cause specific earthquakes and we suspect other ailments to Earth. I say “specific” because HAARP scientists have admitted that energy direction is possible. This energy can be guided to where the operators want a quake. The US Navy that runs HAARP have stated that, they will own the weather by 2025. It would appear they are well on their way to accomplishing that goal! I wonder, with all the weird weather we are having, are the HAARP people running practice runs? I believe you will find that Chemtrails are more important to the military than merely sun reflection You got it. But I don't know why Chicago is the testbed? Our chemtrails in the 'Windy City' are typically sprayed aloft in 'calm' weather periods. Multiple confirmed eyewitness reports in Chicagoland observed sprayed chemtrails in several different events, as a confirm these links have satellite images as well. 11-22-09 Chemtrail cloud seeding for fog cover - DHS and AF Joint task force op for terrorist air interdiction over cities(Chicago). Thread: Chem Trails in Chicagoland 03-29-10 During the world wide flu pandemic report Thread: Low Spraying "chem-trail" Plane WOW! 06-01-Chicago racial attacks on Caucasions - race based biomedication eliminating any more summer reported problems! Thread: Chemtrails in Chicagoland 6-1-2011 09-20-11 Forming a focus hub for a cyclonic weather spiral that lasted for a week, HAARP?, ELF? Thread: Chemtrails over Chicagoland 9/20/2011 Thread: Who owned the sky over Chicago Tuesday 9-20-2011 between 8-12AM? Thread: Chemtrails over Chicagoland 9-20-11, now a cyclonic weather pattern 9-24-11 10-07-11 One of several chemtrail grids applications prior to CME Solar Flare arrivals, GLP has one of the few real time CME report threads. Thread: Chemtrails Over Chicago...New pics just taken 10/07/2011 around 12:15 pm Thread: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily) (Page 405) 09-12-11 AC153 Thread: Yesterday is the first day in months that I have seen chemtrails again!!!!! Thread: G3 Geomagnetic Storm - On Sept. 12, we are expected to receive a direct hit!!! The HAARP connection might be a large focusing area(receiving antenna) of chemtrail material(?). Here is the satellite chemtrail image then the cyclonic weather pattern 'focused' over Chicago for the next 6 days! Last Edited by uscrusader1 on 10/22/2011 03:11 PM |
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uscrusader1 User ID: 1242940 United States 10/22/2011 03:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are both currently in the US inventory and used for refueling. These might also be surplused out to 'private contractors' for just this kind of operation. They both already have the (refueling fuel or chemical?)storage tanks, and wingtip plumbing for refueling hoses, which could easily be modified to trailing edge dispersion spray nozzles(4). This modification could be subcontrated out to Evergreen Aviation(Oregon) who specializes in these types of aircraft conversions and will even fly the missions per their website. Evergreen has extensive experience supporting military and NGOs airlift needs, full machining capabilities, and they can even paint it an anonymous 'white'. Not so on this day. The following releases were made in 1000 always increments. That was then, the statement of the radar controllers 'Climb 14,000 feet', then the next 'Climb 15,000 feet', 'Climb 16,000 feet'. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3769071 We knew that we had to decide on an air traffic which have approximately the same flight path had to, but could not or would grow more slowly than we ourselves could have done. On the so-called TCAS (Traffic Collision and Avoidance System), a monitoring tool with which you can watch the skies for one's own plane around, then we noticed a traffic on our right and a little ahead of us. The weather was good, we were visually watch for the expected traffic crossing over us. This was not long in coming. Chemtrailsausbringung by 2 cargo aircraft of the type C-17 Globemaster from the wings It was a heavy transport aircraft of the American type C-17 Globemaster at a height of 18,000 feet. (6000 m) Based on our observation of the sky using the TCAS system, we suspected that a machine of this type in a few miles farther apart in the same amount behind. This we could not form visually, and I am sure that a second machine was available. What do we make up accounts but was that the plane a thick 'contrails' left behind. At this altitude and the prevailing season a 'not to be expected phenomenon. Planes that were flying in dense airspace and were still much higher still see clearly, or to be contrails behind them. So it HAS to have it done here, at an output of substances, which can not be explained by the conventional engine exhaust. (Addendum to note: At the oral argument previously made decidedly description, I asked the pilot whether the banding is 17erfolgt from the engines of the Globemaster C-. He replied: "Absolutely not!" The substances of which depicted the Chemtrails formed, so came from nozzles in the wings of the cargo planes, probably in the range of engines |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 946424 United States 10/22/2011 04:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Chemtrails just took our sunny sky to almost complete cloud cover in an hour in Indianapolis. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3806507 These need to stop. That happened here in maryland the other day. It was nice and sunny and then we saw a bunch of planes spraying and it got cloudy about two hours later. Are you just joking, or are you really this fucking stupid? Just wondering. |
The Guy User ID: 1533092 United States 10/22/2011 05:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Chemtrails just took our sunny sky to almost complete cloud cover in an hour in Indianapolis. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3806507 These need to stop. That happened here in maryland the other day. It was nice and sunny and then we saw a bunch of planes spraying and it got cloudy about two hours later. Did they look like this? It's good to be open-minded, just don't let your brain fall out. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3826571 United States 10/22/2011 11:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Chemtrails just took our sunny sky to almost complete cloud cover in an hour in Indianapolis. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3806507 These need to stop. they certainly do....totally wrecked a pristine gorgeous day here in Michigan...crystal blue sky with bright sun and clean crisp air soon filmed over with grey gooey trails....went on all day. HATE THOSE FUCKS |
uscrusader1 User ID: 1242940 United States 10/23/2011 01:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The rapporteur met with the editor of this website several months ago. Sometime during the 2 hour discussion progressed, I asked what profession he carried on. Only after some insistence became apparent that he was working professionally in the cockpit as a pilot. I then gently brought the topic to chemtrails and asked him if he this term and the underlying assumptions that we are dealing with artificially-produced chemical contrails, are known. Then came first hesitantly, "Yes, I have a lot to the Internet read ". When I made it clear that I am the editor of the website [link to www.chemtrails-was] info.de, and wanted to know how he stands and what he may have even seen from the cockpit, he told me: "I first doubted whether the arguments of those reports that over chemtrails correspond mainly to be distributed on the Internet, the facts. But then I will personally experienced something that I now believe that chemicals sprayed from aircraft, which produce those enduring 'contrails', which we call chemtrails - for any purpose whatsoever . Since I did not take notes during the conversation, and wanted to clarify some details, I asked the pilots a few weeks later, at a detailed record of what happened. The written description was made on 17.08.09 is reproduced below as a literal transcript. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3769071 Strange climb instructions by flight control center "After taking off from Frankfurt airport ... we were in route climb north of Nuremberg. It was around 14.00 clock in the afternoon. The visibility was very good, we did not fly through clouds. On the day there was an extensive low pressure system located over Germany. In passing through one of around 11-12.000 foot is then passed to the next radar sector ', which then gives further climb free. These shares'll be finding generally handled quite generous. We shall then by 'Munich Radar' is usually released on the same flight next area 250, that is 25,000 feet. Not so on this day. The following releases were made in 1000 always increments. That was then, the statement of the radar controllers 'Climb 14,000 feet', then the next 'Climb 15,000 feet', 'Climb 16,000 feet'. We knew that we had to decide on an air traffic which have approximately the same flight path had to, but could not or would grow more slowly than we ourselves could have done. On the so-called TCAS (Traffic Collision and Avoidance System), a monitoring tool with which you can watch the skies for one's own plane around, then we noticed a traffic on our right and a little ahead of us. The weather was good, we were visually watch for the expected traffic crossing over us. This was not long in coming. Chemtrailsausbringung by 2 cargo aircraft of the type C-17 Globemaster from the wings It was a heavy transport aircraft of the American type C-17 Globemaster at a height of 18,000 feet. (6000 m) Based on our observation of the sky using the TCAS system, we suspected that a machine of this type in a few miles farther apart in the same amount behind. This we could not form visually, and I am sure that a second machine was available. What do we make up accounts but was that the plane a thick 'contrails' left behind. At this altitude and the prevailing season a 'not to be expected phenomenon. Planes that were flying in dense airspace and were still much higher still see clearly, or to be contrails behind them. So it HAS to have it done here, at an output of substances, which can not be explained by the conventional engine exhaust. (Addendum to note: At the oral argument previously made decidedly description, I asked the pilot whether the banding is 17erfolgt from the engines of the Globemaster C-. He replied: "Absolutely not!" The substances of which depicted the Chemtrails formed, so came from nozzles in the wings of the cargo planes, probably in the range of engines) Other observations made in this regard pilots Chemtrailszunahme In my daily professional life (as a pilot's note) I notice that this 'spraying' grow significantly. This spreading operations, which are referred to by the media, often referred to as 'high Nebelfelder' I've seen all summer of 2009 on, mostly at altitudes of about 18,000 -35,000 feet (6000 - 12000 m). How does the fog of chemtrails from contrails of smoke at the height It is often not easy to distinguish a vapor from engine exhaust from a chemtrail too. But every day I see planes in the sky high, sometimes at close range if they cross the flight paths. One can clearly see how a contrail looks like and looks like a chemtrail. Especially the behavior in the air can be distinguished. While a vapor trail is somewhat light and thin, moving usually quite quickly dissipated, see chemtrails "heavy, sluggish and somehow close out." And so they behave. It happens that we leave on a day in the morning a specific airport, on its surroundings chemtrails have been applied. Let us return then hours later to land, there are still the chemtrails, and have spread into a great gray veil, while in the wider environment far different weather and wind there was in place. The eyewitness met with the editor of this website [link to www.chemtrails-info.de] several months ago. Sometime during the 2 hour discussion, he asked what his profession was. Only after some insistence it became apparent that he was working professionally in the cockpit as a pilot. I then brought up the topic of chemtrails and asked him if he knew this term and the underlying assumptions that we are dealing with, artificially-produced chemical contrails. Then hesitantly he said, "Yes, I have read a lot on the Internet ". Then the editor made it clear that I am the editor of the website [link to www.chemtrails-info.de,] and wanted to know where he stands and what he may have even seen from the cockpit. He told me "I first doubted whether the arguments of those reports of chemtrails distributed on the internet correspond to the facts. But then I personally experienced something so I now believe that chemicals are sprayed from aircraft. Which produce those enduring 'contrails', which we call chemtrails for some purpose. Since the editor did not take notes during the conversation, and wanted to clarify some details, the editor asked the pilot a few weeks later for a detailed record of what happened. The written description made on August 17, 2009 is reproduced below as a literal transcript. Strange climbing instructions came from the flight control center after taking off from Frankfurt airport ... we were in route, climbing north of Nuremberg. It was around 1400hrs in the afternoon. The visibility was very good, we did not fly through clouds. On that day there was an extensive low pressure system located over Germany. After passing through around 11-12,000 feet we were handed off to the next radar sector which then gives further climb instructions. These climb rates usually would be generally quite generous. 'Munich Radar' is usually sends us to 250, that is 25,000 feet at this point. Not so on this day. The following releases were made in 1000 increments. The statement of the radar controllers was 'Climb 14,000 feet', then the next 'Climb 15,000 feet', 'Climb 16,000 feet'. We knew that we had other air traffic which had approximately the same flight path, but could not or would climb faster than we could. On the TCAS (Traffic Collision and Avoidance System), a monitoring tool with which you can watch the airspace for other aircraft around one's own plane, we noticed traffic on our right and a little ahead of us. The weather was good, so we were watching for the expected traffic crossing over us. This was not long in coming. It was two C-17 Globemaster cargo aircraft chemtrailing from their wings. It was a heavy American cargo aircraft C-17 Globemaster at a height of 18,000 feet. (6000 m) Based on our observation of the airspace using the TCAS system, we suspected that there were other aircraft of this type a few miles apart and the same distance behind. This we could not visually confirm but I am sure that a second aircraft was there. So here is an account of the plane having thick 'contrails' trailing behind. Contrails at this altitude and the prevailing season(temperature) is not an expected phenomenon. Planes that were flying in much higher and more dense airspace clearly left no contrails behind them. So it HAS to be stated here that there was an output of substances which can not be explained by conventional engine exhaust. To clarify, I asked the pilot whether the chemtrails were aligned with the engines of the Globemaster C-17. He replied: "Absolutely not!" The trailing chemtrails came from nozzles in the wings of the C-17 cargo planes, probably in the vicinity of the engines Other pilot observations made regarding Chemtrails. In my daily professional life as a pilot I notice that this 'spraying' is growing significantly. I've seen these spraying operations, which are referred to by the media as 'high fog patches' all summer during 2009, mostly at altitudes of about 18,000 -35,000 feet(6000 - 12000 m). How does the chemtrail 'fog' form from contrail vapor at that height? It is not easy to distinguish a vapor from engine exhaust to that of a chemtrail. But every day I see planes high in the sky sometimes at close range if they cross our flight path. One can clearly see the difference between how a contrail looks and how a chemtrail looks by their distinguishing behavior in the air. While a contrail vapor trail is somewhat light and thin, dissipating usually quite quickly, chemtrails behave in a "heavy, sluggish and persistant" manner. Sometimes we leave in the morning from a specific airport where chemtrails have been applied. We return hours later to land and the chemtrails have spread out into a great gray veil. While in the wider environment they were experiencing far different weather and wind conditions. |
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George B Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 1765607 United States 10/23/2011 10:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The rapporteur met with the editor of this website several months ago. Sometime during the 2 hour discussion progressed, I asked what profession he carried on. Only after some insistence became apparent that he was working professionally in the cockpit as a pilot. I then gently brought the topic to chemtrails and asked him if he this term and the underlying assumptions that we are dealing with artificially-produced chemical contrails, are known. Then came first hesitantly, "Yes, I have a lot to the Internet read ". When I made it clear that I am the editor of the website [link to www.chemtrails-was] info.de, and wanted to know how he stands and what he may have even seen from the cockpit, he told me: "I first doubted whether the arguments of those reports that over chemtrails correspond mainly to be distributed on the Internet, the facts. But then I will personally experienced something that I now believe that chemicals sprayed from aircraft, which produce those enduring 'contrails', which we call chemtrails - for any purpose whatsoever . Since I did not take notes during the conversation, and wanted to clarify some details, I asked the pilots a few weeks later, at a detailed record of what happened. The written description was made on 17.08.09 is reproduced below as a literal transcript. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3769071 Strange climb instructions by flight control center "After taking off from Frankfurt airport ... we were in route climb north of Nuremberg. It was around 14.00 clock in the afternoon. The visibility was very good, we did not fly through clouds. On the day there was an extensive low pressure system located over Germany. In passing through one of around 11-12.000 foot is then passed to the next radar sector ', which then gives further climb free. These shares'll be finding generally handled quite generous. We shall then by 'Munich Radar' is usually released on the same flight next area 250, that is 25,000 feet. Not so on this day. The following releases were made in 1000 always increments. That was then, the statement of the radar controllers 'Climb 14,000 feet', then the next 'Climb 15,000 feet', 'Climb 16,000 feet'. We knew that we had to decide on an air traffic which have approximately the same flight path had to, but could not or would grow more slowly than we ourselves could have done. On the so-called TCAS (Traffic Collision and Avoidance System), a monitoring tool with which you can watch the skies for one's own plane around, then we noticed a traffic on our right and a little ahead of us. The weather was good, we were visually watch for the expected traffic crossing over us. This was not long in coming. Chemtrailsausbringung by 2 cargo aircraft of the type C-17 Globemaster from the wings It was a heavy transport aircraft of the American type C-17 Globemaster at a height of 18,000 feet. (6000 m) Based on our observation of the sky using the TCAS system, we suspected that a machine of this type in a few miles farther apart in the same amount behind. This we could not form visually, and I am sure that a second machine was available. What do we make up accounts but was that the plane a thick 'contrails' left behind. At this altitude and the prevailing season a 'not to be expected phenomenon. Planes that were flying in dense airspace and were still much higher still see clearly, or to be contrails behind them. So it HAS to have it done here, at an output of substances, which can not be explained by the conventional engine exhaust. (Addendum to note: At the oral argument previously made decidedly description, I asked the pilot whether the banding is 17erfolgt from the engines of the Globemaster C-. He replied: "Absolutely not!" The substances of which depicted the Chemtrails formed, so came from nozzles in the wings of the cargo planes, probably in the range of engines) Other observations made in this regard pilots Chemtrailszunahme In my daily professional life (as a pilot's note) I notice that this 'spraying' grow significantly. This spreading operations, which are referred to by the media, often referred to as 'high Nebelfelder' I've seen all summer of 2009 on, mostly at altitudes of about 18,000 -35,000 feet (6000 - 12000 m). How does the fog of chemtrails from contrails of smoke at the height It is often not easy to distinguish a vapor from engine exhaust from a chemtrail too. But every day I see planes in the sky high, sometimes at close range if they cross the flight paths. One can clearly see how a contrail looks like and looks like a chemtrail. Especially the behavior in the air can be distinguished. While a vapor trail is somewhat light and thin, moving usually quite quickly dissipated, see chemtrails "heavy, sluggish and somehow close out." And so they behave. It happens that we leave on a day in the morning a specific airport, on its surroundings chemtrails have been applied. Let us return then hours later to land, there are still the chemtrails, and have spread into a great gray veil, while in the wider environment far different weather and wind there was in place. The eyewitness met with the editor of this website [link to www.chemtrails-info.de] several months ago. Sometime during the 2 hour discussion, he asked what his profession was. Only after some insistence it became apparent that he was working professionally in the cockpit as a pilot. I then brought up the topic of chemtrails and asked him if he knew this term and the underlying assumptions that we are dealing with, artificially-produced chemical contrails. Then hesitantly he said, "Yes, I have read a lot on the Internet ". Then the editor made it clear that I am the editor of the website [link to www.chemtrails-info.de,] and wanted to know where he stands and what he may have even seen from the cockpit. He told me "I first doubted whether the arguments of those reports of chemtrails distributed on the internet correspond to the facts. But then I personally experienced something so I now believe that chemicals are sprayed from aircraft. Which produce those enduring 'contrails', which we call chemtrails for some purpose. Since the editor did not take notes during the conversation, and wanted to clarify some details, the editor asked the pilot a few weeks later for a detailed record of what happened. The written description made on August 17, 2009 is reproduced below as a literal transcript. Strange climbing instructions came from the flight control center after taking off from Frankfurt airport ... we were in route, climbing north of Nuremberg. It was around 1400hrs in the afternoon. The visibility was very good, we did not fly through clouds. On that day there was an extensive low pressure system located over Germany. After passing through around 11-12,000 feet we were handed off to the next radar sector which then gives further climb instructions. These climb rates usually would be generally quite generous. 'Munich Radar' is usually sends us to 250, that is 25,000 feet at this point. Not so on this day. The following releases were made in 1000 increments. The statement of the radar controllers was 'Climb 14,000 feet', then the next 'Climb 15,000 feet', 'Climb 16,000 feet'. We knew that we had other air traffic which had approximately the same flight path, but could not or would climb faster than we could. On the TCAS (Traffic Collision and Avoidance System), a monitoring tool with which you can watch the airspace for other aircraft around one's own plane, we noticed traffic on our right and a little ahead of us. The weather was good, so we were watching for the expected traffic crossing over us. This was not long in coming. It was two C-17 Globemaster cargo aircraft chemtrailing from their wings. It was a heavy American cargo aircraft C-17 Globemaster at a height of 18,000 feet. (6000 m) Based on our observation of the airspace using the TCAS system, we suspected that there were other aircraft of this type a few miles apart and the same distance behind. This we could not visually confirm but I am sure that a second aircraft was there. So here is an account of the plane having thick 'contrails' trailing behind. Contrails at this altitude and the prevailing season(temperature) is not an expected phenomenon. Planes that were flying in much higher and more dense airspace clearly left no contrails behind them. So it HAS to be stated here that there was an output of substances which can not be explained by conventional engine exhaust. To clarify, I asked the pilot whether the chemtrails were aligned with the engines of the Globemaster C-17. He replied: "Absolutely not!" The trailing chemtrails came from nozzles in the wings of the C-17 cargo planes, probably in the vicinity of the engines Other pilot observations made regarding Chemtrails. In my daily professional life as a pilot I notice that this 'spraying' is growing significantly. I've seen these spraying operations, which are referred to by the media as 'high fog patches' all summer during 2009, mostly at altitudes of about 18,000 -35,000 feet(6000 - 12000 m). How does the chemtrail 'fog' form from contrail vapor at that height? It is not easy to distinguish a vapor from engine exhaust to that of a chemtrail. But every day I see planes high in the sky sometimes at close range if they cross our flight path. One can clearly see the difference between how a contrail looks and how a chemtrail looks by their distinguishing behavior in the air. While a contrail vapor trail is somewhat light and thin, dissipating usually quite quickly, chemtrails behave in a "heavy, sluggish and persistant" manner. Sometimes we leave in the morning from a specific airport where chemtrails have been applied. We return hours later to land and the chemtrails have spread out into a great gray veil. While in the wider environment they were experiencing far different weather and wind conditions. Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. 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George B Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 1765607 United States 10/23/2011 10:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh Jesus, George B again. How ya doin' george B. Haven't learned a GD thing, I see. Seems you haven't either . . . . Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
G. House User ID: 1458942 United States 10/23/2011 10:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.naturalmedicine.com] Quoting: WAKE THE F* UP 3769071 excerpt from interesting article: I’ve come to believe that Chemtrails are extremely important to the operation of HAARP and other programs. The military is 35 to 45 years ahead of what is revealed to the population. Chemtrails are likely used to track armies, move viruses around . . . nanotechnology may use Chemtrails, etc. These topics are gone into more detail with a little digging in the links below. How does HAARP play into all this? The HAARP array is based just north of Fairbanks, Alaska. For me to go into HAARP would fill volumes, same as the mountain of evidence for the use of Chemtrails. However, the more you read, see, and hear the facts, you will then be more able to decide for yourself what is right. From my research, I believe that HAARP uses the Aluminium in Chemtrails as an electrical wire. If so, this may be why HAARP can travel the world. Once trails are laid, the Aluminium could be up there for up to two years. Keep laying the trails, and you keep advancing. We now know that HAARP can cause specific earthquakes and we suspect other ailments to Earth. I say “specific” because HAARP scientists have admitted that energy direction is possible. This energy can be guided to where the operators want a quake. The US Navy that runs HAARP have stated that, they will own the weather by 2025. It would appear they are well on their way to accomplishing that goal! I wonder, with all the weird weather we are having, are the HAARP people running practice runs? I believe you will find that Chemtrails are more important to the military than merely sun reflection More from the article: My familiarity with jet aircraft brings me to the accident. I was headed back to my office when I noticed a jet had overtaken me. The location of a high jet was a bit strange and it looked as if it was losing a lot of fuel. I immediately called the Department of Transport (DOT) to report what I thought was a severe fuel leak. The fellow I was put in touch with must have had about 79 questions pre-printed that I had to answer before he was going to contact the jet. I interrupted him to say, “Would you please make a call to the jet?” The fellow paid me no heed going on with his questioning. I finally hung up on him after asking him a second time to call the jet. I was a bit stunned. He was calling the DOT from his aircraft? Sorry aircraft communications just don't work that way. Article is a farce. Last Edited by G. House on 10/23/2011 10:51 AM "Everybody lies." |
George B Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 1765607 United States 10/23/2011 01:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.naturalmedicine.com] Quoting: WAKE THE F* UP 3769071 excerpt from interesting article: I’ve come to believe that Chemtrails are extremely important to the operation of HAARP and other programs. The military is 35 to 45 years ahead of what is revealed to the population. Chemtrails are likely used to track armies, move viruses around . . . nanotechnology may use Chemtrails, etc. These topics are gone into more detail with a little digging in the links below. How does HAARP play into all this? The HAARP array is based just north of Fairbanks, Alaska. For me to go into HAARP would fill volumes, same as the mountain of evidence for the use of Chemtrails. However, the more you read, see, and hear the facts, you will then be more able to decide for yourself what is right. From my research, I believe that HAARP uses the Aluminium in Chemtrails as an electrical wire. If so, this may be why HAARP can travel the world. Once trails are laid, the Aluminium could be up there for up to two years. Keep laying the trails, and you keep advancing. We now know that HAARP can cause specific earthquakes and we suspect other ailments to Earth. I say “specific” because HAARP scientists have admitted that energy direction is possible. This energy can be guided to where the operators want a quake. The US Navy that runs HAARP have stated that, they will own the weather by 2025. It would appear they are well on their way to accomplishing that goal! I wonder, with all the weird weather we are having, are the HAARP people running practice runs? I believe you will find that Chemtrails are more important to the military than merely sun reflection More from the article: My familiarity with jet aircraft brings me to the accident. I was headed back to my office when I noticed a jet had overtaken me. The location of a high jet was a bit strange and it looked as if it was losing a lot of fuel. I immediately called the Department of Transport (DOT) to report what I thought was a severe fuel leak. The fellow I was put in touch with must have had about 79 questions pre-printed that I had to answer before he was going to contact the jet. I interrupted him to say, “Would you please make a call to the jet?” The fellow paid me no heed going on with his questioning. I finally hung up on him after asking him a second time to call the jet. I was a bit stunned. He was calling the DOT from his aircraft? Sorry aircraft communications just don't work that way. Article is a farce. If he was calling from his aircraft. . . Does seem strange. . . I will agree. . . Last Edited by George B on 10/23/2011 05:47 PM Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 946424 United States 10/23/2011 01:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh Jesus, George B again. How ya doin' george B. Haven't learned a GD thing, I see. Seems you haven't either . . . . George, I'm a pilot, remember me? We've been all through this before. I already KNOW about this shit. I never have heard your explanation for why I'd poison my own family. Why do we do it, George? |
George B Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 1765607 United States 10/23/2011 05:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh Jesus, George B again. How ya doin' george B. Haven't learned a GD thing, I see. Seems you haven't either . . . . George, I'm a pilot, remember me? We've been all through this before. I already KNOW about this shit. I never have heard your explanation for why I'd poison my own family. Why do we do it, George? How do you know that any pilot has any knowledge of CHEMTRAILs. . . ? And the few that might . . never said they did know they were poisoning anyone. . . Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1525278 United States 10/23/2011 05:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh Jesus, George B again. How ya doin' george B. Haven't learned a GD thing, I see. Seems you haven't either . . . . George, I'm a pilot, remember me? We've been all through this before. I already KNOW about this shit. I never have heard your explanation for why I'd poison my own family. Why do we do it, George? He's just a paranoid moron...he's got nothing...ignore that loser.. |
CaptiveR User ID: 3158082 United Kingdom 10/24/2011 05:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I still do not see the connection between chemtrails and Haarp, however, here in the south of the Uk we do have the odd days where there is no chemtrails at all, leaving a nice blue sky. The very next day will be completely different with thick persistent trails going all over, but obviously mostly where the sun is. So i fail to know what has changed inside 24 hours, but there is NO denying the reflective properties of these chemtrails. The program certainly has not been effected by funding, i have read comments that it is now an automated program. I have failed to hear the noise from many of these planes leaving the trails. I do wonder where these aircraft originate from. |
uscrusader1 User ID: 1242940 United States 10/24/2011 11:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Chemtrails are the receiving medium(antenna) for HAARP transmissions? Making the atmosphere even slightly conductive turns it into a resonating receiving antenna. In theory. In practice. This just might be one of those experiments. 09-20-11 Forming a focus hub for a cyclonic weather spiral that lasted for a week, HAARP?, ELF? Thread: Chemtrails over Chicagoland 9/20/2011 Thread: Who owned the sky over Chicago Tuesday 9-20-2011 between 8-12AM? Thread: Chemtrails over Chicagoland 9-20-11, now a cyclonic weather pattern 9-24-11 Last Edited by uscrusader1 on 10/24/2011 11:53 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 946424 United States 10/24/2011 11:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 946424 Oh Jesus, George B again. How ya doin' george B. Haven't learned a GD thing, I see. Seems you haven't either . . . . George, I'm a pilot, remember me? We've been all through this before. I already KNOW about this shit. I never have heard your explanation for why I'd poison my own family. Why do we do it, George? He's just a paranoid moron...he's got nothing...ignore that loser.. Mental illness, to be sure. Whew! Fucking sicko. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 946424 United States 10/24/2011 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i read it and cant help notice the pilot has no more evidence of anything than any others who promote this idea. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2033927 when will a pilot get a plane, go up in the air though a "chemtrail" and prove what its supposed to consist of? The "pilot" was kidding and he admitted it, later. This has been debunked so many fucking times, and George B knows it. |
George B Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 2973379 United States 10/24/2011 04:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i read it and cant help notice the pilot has no more evidence of anything than any others who promote this idea. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2033927 when will a pilot get a plane, go up in the air though a "chemtrail" and prove what its supposed to consist of? The "pilot" was kidding and he admitted it, later. This has been debunked so many fucking times, and George B knows it. Sorry to disappoint. . . But I had not read this account nor the debunking. . . Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |