Judge's Daughter who was beaten Intervoewed with her Mom

What do you mean he is after the younger daughter?

And why isn't anyone checking the fact she was illegally downloading material off the internet at the time?

Are there so may that condone illegal activity?

This is just a dysfunctional family being dysfunctional. It's no coincidence this was released to support the mothers divorce claims. It goes to show, even upper class families are trailer trash.

^^^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^^

First, I'm not discussing the daughter or the mother (who apparently can admit that it was wrong instead of playing it down).

Because some children are eating leaves for food and other children may be beat more severely, are you saying that things are okay as long as other people have had it worse?

...pausing...having a flashback....conclusion...some people think abuse is based on a "bell curve". Thankfully, this is not the case otherwise we would all be having cigarette burns on our arms.

Your question if I believe this is an isolated incident when the parent explodes after the child refuses to behave, the answer is unfortunately "no". Just because it happens alot doesn't make it right. With all of the exposure child abuse has had over the past 30 years I don't think it is as prevelant as it used to be. How did I come to this conclusion? Because I've heard moms discuss spanking their children in stores and being aware that they don't want people thinking they're abusing their child. I've heard discussions on ways to punish using other methods.These concerns and conversations weren't prevelant 40 years ago because alot of people only did what they knew, which is "get the switch". The fact that parents know that they MUST be in control of their emotions while disciplining (since it is still legal) means that awareness is making a difference.

I totally disagree with your assessment of the mans ability to do his job properly. He didn't think "it was as bad as it looks" and when he said "there's a story" that was his way of saying "I have an excuse for what I've done" instead of saying there is no excuse.

He uses terms such as disobey and "I will beat you into submission" Those are terms of control. He is beating her for downloading a game to the computer, his words. He also hits her with his hands. Hilary replies to his question; "No sir" not no father, no dad.

My dad whipped my older brothers like that growing up but NEVER cussed us or whipped us girls. My brothers are great men but do talk about the beatings to this day. I think an a$$ whippin is necessary in some cases but this went way overboard. The judge was a pig saying "I'll beat you into submission". What was that? he acted like someone from an uncivilized country that doesn't recognize women. No one deserves to be talked to like he did his daughter. He should have taken the computer away and the whole thing would have been over with.

This may be vindictive, and it may be planned, but I dont blame her. All the poor girl did was download music on the computer. Did that deserve a beating / spanking with a belt, over and over again, with her father repeatedly coming back into the room to do it some more ? I think not.
THEN for her mother to get involved, and help her father with another belt, is a bit over the top, for what the girl did at the time. She has stated that this was not the first time she endured being hit with a belt.

So we can only imagine what else she did with such severity in your eyes, OP, that deserved to be hit with a belt that many times, over and over again. She is / was not a crimminal. She used the friggen computer !!

this is a no-win situation for the judge.

Hollywood spends billions of dollars
tracking down thieves who steal
illegal movies, games, videos and
music they did not pay for.

A judge tries to correct his daughter
from breaking this law and his career
and life is ruined.

You do realize that the judge is responsible
financially and criminally for his 16 yr old
daughter's actions. The judge faces
fines of over $250,000 and a prison term
of 5 years if she had been caught in
her illegal activities.

She needed to get her ass whopped.
She could have sent her father
to prison for her own actions.

And for those who side with the daughter
on this: you are in the minority.

CNN poll states that 62% agree with
parents corporal punishment of children.

Yep. Noticed that too. She addressed her father with
"No Sir". I agree 100%. Her father was very controling.

Could only imagine what if she had taped months worth of this. This was just one day.

The only thing I can add to go with my previous posts is that this obviously was not the first time it happened.

Your post that I've quoted leads me to believe that you think this is ONE lapse in judgement on the Judges part. The conclusion I have is much different.

I am not justifying that what he Dad did is OK because other children suffer worse, but I am questioning the motives behind the publishing of the video and the timing taken to do so.

I am also questioning the fact that the Mom is sat there, nodding here head in agreement when the interviewer mentions how violence on kids ain't good, as SHE HERSELF took it upon herself to abuse as much as the Dad, so do two wrongs make a right? No.

Is selling the story for fame money and glory and to destroy a man right? Absolutely not, and that is for me the most important thing to consider here at this conjecture.

No child should be abused or left behind, and the Dad and Mom did wrong, plain and simple.

Look at the age of the guy, he prolly dished out what his Pop gave to him, and though it is not right, it is understandable.

You are right that abuse is less outside, but do you really think it is less inside the home, when no public is present?

She did the right thing. And this video needed to come out. I know that one of the reasons she waited was to protect her mother and younger sister, but I also realized she didn't want her dad to go to jail. During arguments, I've even considered videoing and playing it back, I can't even stand verbal arguments, just so the other would know what this sounded like. People need to live in peace, and be agents of peace with each other, not controlling and not argumentative/aggressive. I was raised in a whole family like that, not physical harm, but adults having temper tantrums, and yelling for nothing all the time, which makes me passive/aggressive myself. Try to be low key and keep everyone quiet and then eventually the stress of too much noise and I react and get upset. That is not healthy either.

Its life long consequences to deal with dysfunction and abuse.

And that she, who had cerebral palsy had to video it for protection tells me alot. It told me it was long term and that by duplicating the evidence and putting it in safe places, she may have been able to prevent further abuse, ie. he may have not wanted to lose his job.

There are a lot of things going on here. And people have the right to protect themselves from further abuse, by someone who isn't fit to be residing over family court, and who obviously was trying to get custody of his younger daughter as well. They had the right to reveal what was going on.

That video shows massive abuse.

Not all of us believe in copyright violations. I don't believe in any such laws or that she was behaving criminally.

Its legal for my brother to view porn and he would sneak on my kids computers and put virus's on. I knew it was him not them and when i had to reprogram the whole thing, accused him and he admitted it.

That is a far worse crime to me, let me tell you. I didn't go whipping my grown brothers ass over it either.

Last Edited by Sungaze_At_Dawn on 11/03/2011 05:19 PM

The poll states the outcome of corporal punishment, it did not ask if this judge went to far. You're conclusion is skewed based on the question.

As an adult, I've already stated that I understand the severity of what she did even though I don't think some understand the judges predicament.

This should be a wake up call, though. No matter what a child does, there is no excuse to do what he did.

If anyone isn't sure where the LINE is, this is way over it. Now you know.

the daughter and mother will get rich off of this.
$2 Million dollar book deal. Seminar tours and
video sales.

And the father will be in the po house
with a life ruined.

Now tell me women don't have agendas ???

^THIS^^^^^^^

It's terrifying, how people are so different behind closed doors. This guy is a Nazi douchebag... he was totally getting off on it. It was perverted, grotesque, and alarming. And the mom was choreographing, telling the daughter to do what he said.... it was disgusting. I can't believe the daughter still talks to the mom, to be frank. Mom was an accomplice.
Whole thing is nasty and I hope this young woman is able to heal and move on as a whole human being. Good for her.
Revenge is a dish best served cold....

Oh yes, be abused and live in hell, get away, protect yourself as you should, but its just agenda when you do that. You wouldn't be talking like that if this was your close twin sisters hubby and daughter. I suppose someone paralyzed in a car crash, should just not bother trying to get medical coverage and a settlement either. They must have wanted to be paralyzed due to hidden agendas and created the accident. They have no right either, its all about the compensation and should be forced to work at mcdonalds. Oops can't well then die, in the old american heartless dog eat dog, social darwinism tradition you weak weanie, because if you get any settlement out of being victimized you have an agenda.

Same comparison.

Grow up.

Last Edited by Sungaze_At_Dawn on 11/03/2011 05:23 PM

Maybe it did happen more than once, this type of reaction does not seem isolated at all and it was also heavy handed.

But is taking it up now right now justified or is there an ulterior motive behind it?

Should I have my Mom arrested for beating me with a rolling pin, breaking my arm, hitting my fingers and toes with a Scholl shoe and a host of other types of beatings and stress positions?

What good does it do me? How can going public help me? Only thing I can do is accept it, and understand her point of view that four kids without a Dad around was damned hard work for her, and yeah, when I played up, I gave her hell, and though I hate her for doing it, I would never try to make money out of her.

The correct response form the authorities when we started appearing in hospitals more often that the average kid was to seperate us us around 5 years old and place us into care, and I can tell ya, life has been shit for me ever since, but would I expose her for money fame or revenge?

Big Fat NO.

What happened to the girl, me, and countless other kids isn't right, but me going public for change at the expense of my mother so many years after is callous on my part.

Plus my Mom and I talked it through and now I am older, things are better, though I am psychologically fucked as a result.

Last Edited by CalmB4TheLight on 11/03/2011 05:21 PM

As opposed to being arrested for child abuse? A judge breaking the law. Fancy that.

Cases he presided over are now being investigated. For example, one where he dismissed a childs evidence even though it was corroborated by others, and another where he said children are fantasists and their evidence should be inadmissable.

Apparently the reason she went public with the video is because hes dad is still harrassing her

bullshit !!!

I'll bet the kids in your house
tell you what to do. If so, they
do not respect you or your
authority as a parent.

Their motives make no difference on his actions.

I think the man destroyed himself. (Since this is important to you, really think about what I said here.)

I'm sure alot of guys his age have dished out what they were given and personally I take age into consideration about alot of things. As a judge who I'm sure knew about the penalty of downloading, I can't believe he would be ignorant in want constitutes child abuse and towed the line as close as he could, I guess there is no time restriction set up in the books so the length of activity is up to a "judgement call". He should not be a judge.

Lastly, I think abuse inside the home is less prevelant because I hear of women talking about what things to use as discipline besides the "time outs", they are discussing non-physical ways to punish children. I don't remember this being talked about so much even 20 years ago. People ARE using other methods.

If I taped all the punishment I received growing up I'd probably be on The Today Show too.

So if it had been his wife that would have been ok too? Why is it ok to beat the hell out of your kids? Why not remove the computer from her room?

Punishment is one thing but the rage he displayed shows he was just enjoying it. Calling her a fucking little bitch and telling her he will beat hes into submission? Come on.

If that girl wasn't his daughter what would you think of that? You would think hes a pig.

I posted this in the previous thread about this and I'll post it her too, for those of you who may have missed it.
Here's hoping it will generate some constructive discussion!

Wow, this video of the Texas Judge strapping his daughter with a belt has sure brought a lot of emotion to the fore. I too suffered greatly at my mothers hands.. beatings so bad, that long pants and long sleeved shirts needed to be worn, to cover the welts and bruises for weeks during the hot summer, that resulted from those beatings. The physical abuse is the easy stuff to get over, the verbal abuse, took me most of my life to overcome.

There are people who feel that no swat or simple likkin should be allowed.. they said that in today's society we should be able to talk and explain to children.. mmmm.. That is where I take issue.
In my experience there is no "one way" to deal with all children.

I never abused my kids, but they sure got a swat or a likkin. Our kids didn't go into fits of frenzied, kicking and screaming, and grabbing stuff off shelves in stores like I see happening today. That just didn't happen... they knew better... lessons learned at home. They were also never put on Ritalin and other emotion dulling drugs that are addictive, we dealt with issues as they came up, without medication... we talked to and explained to our kids the why's and why nots.. and when, as kids will, they pushed all the buttons, and pulled all the right strings, just to see how far they could go.. and talking and explaining had no affect.. yes, they got a swat on the butt... for that I make no apologies.

Abuse should not be allowed, but should drugging kids into a dulled emotional state, on addictive drugs, be an alternative?
That is what is happening today.. the stats are scary and the affects these drugs have on kids is also scary. Did you know that the kids that killed others in school shootings at random.. were on those drugs!
Please feel free to check this out.. [link to www.ritalindeath.com]

As parents we took the time to ensure our kids knew right from wrong, spent time with them at the dinner table and played games with them in the evening.. today the parents have organized activities the kids go to, supper is on the fly and there is no time for family bonding because everyone has their own electronic device(s) they are busy with.. TV, Smart Phones, Computers, On-line Games, etc. etc. and often in different rooms of the house, so there is less family interaction. It's tough enough with all this happening in the households to generate that feeling of belonging, love, respect, and unity.. but when the kids are drugged it's impossible. The drugs stop emotional growth in its tracks.

The feelings that need to be experienced and the lessons that need to be learned as a child are put off, until the kids are off of the emotional mind dulling drugs ..... Then that child - now adult - is struggling to learn what should have been learned at a much younger age and it often ends in violence.

The prescription drugs become a vicious circle.. just like physical and emotional abuse...

No abuse should be sanctioned. I don't think there is a single rule that can be applied to all kids. Like the many personalities of the children, individualized actions for each person brings the best results.
Be careful what you ask the law makers to implement because they use a single rule with a very broad stroke.. that may not fit with your situation. Then what?


For more info on the use and affects Ritalin is having on our kids today.. here are just a couple of links.There are so many more, just google "Ritalin and kids".

Ritalin Kids: A new generation of Abuse:
[link to serendip.brynmawr.edu]

Use Ritalin only as a last resort:
[link to www.cbc.ca]

So, we have one here that doesn't think he stepped over the line.
Well, we don't know where your line is but in your opinion what this man did was within the line. Interesting.

THIS. And then thrown into a pit filled with thousands of venomous snakes and left to fucking die.

And right there is one main reason society is breaking down.

Violence should NEVER be used on anyone, but how many here, hand on heart can say they have never raised their hand on their kids, even a smack on the legs or the bum, and how many have seen it happen and turned a blind eye?

So why condemn one man and use him as a Scapegoat?

fukishima me, this guy should bring out all his hidden hand resources to quell the opposition and he should be supported by those who know just what is going on with the intentions of RoboMom and the 'innocent' girl that has committed the crime of downloading copyrighted material, which could screw up the career of her Dad then, and as it hadn't worked, the two are hell bent on doing so now.

Note also the sympathy seeking Mom, who no doubt has not hit her daughter once as well.

Plus, those saying the Dad is pursuing her now? BS, she is at least 23 years old, a grown woman, she could have called the authorities and shown the vid under a private meeting, but instead decides to load the video online?

Gold diggers.

Last Edited by CalmB4TheLight on 11/03/2011 05:33 PM

Your mom is,or was an abuser and should be in jail, IMO. How can you possibly think this is the only way a parent knows how to respond?

If you watch your own video OP, you will see, and hear them say, the judge IS NOT up for re-election for at the least 3-4 yrs. The daughter clearly states, she released the video, because her father has been harassing her, and her mother, and he wouldnt stop. She said he dared her to release the video. She also states in the interview, that the games, videos, etc, etc, she wanted on the internet, were from overseas, and she couldnt optain them any way.

Ya gotta pay attention to your own info you post OP.

I notice in the comments that the consensus is that this is not an isolated incident.

Whether or not it happened before is not the issue at hand. The one time video is.



Dad was excessive because his authority was challenged.
Mom was and still is a piece of $shit who blames her actions on others.
Girl was a thief and defiant.

The situation could have been handled differently to be sure.


There is an agenda to releasing the video.

Taking away the computer or internet would have worked too.