Rattling Cages is what I DO.

I agree with your new signature. Didn't he end up having kids with Mary Magdelene and travel through France and Italy? I vaguely remember hearing those countries also.

He and Mary M had one girl, Mary M was pregnant at the time of the crucifixion. She and others were deported by boat and found their way to France. The child SaRa (Saw Raw, not Sarah), was born at sea. This story is loosely covered in Dan Browns novel, which I read and now can't remember the title this morning.

Esu also traveled sometimes while growing up, with his uncle, Joseph of Arimathea, who was a tin trader and that is a course of some stories, like his visiting England. He went also to Tibet before the ministry for research in helping him to awaken. My first life on this planet was in Tibet for a similar reason 400 years ago, it was seen as a good place to come into this planet as volunteers began showing up in greater numbers and to this day I do NOT like certain Tibetan music and chanting, but it was a peaceful life.

He did also travel to Italy yes, either during or before the 3 year mission.

Esu and Mary M were not "officially married according to customs" and perhaps that was one error long ago, but they are long soul mates and things happen.

It was decided "on high" for her to remain in Europe. She did not have any more children. Esu married a local woman in Kashmir and they had 5 children, 3 boys and 2 girls. His oldest Son Joseph returned the scrolls written by himself and Judas, who also accompanied him to India, to the old grave in Jerusalem, where a priest was guided to find them in 1964 I think.

You can read Judas translation and commentary of what remained of them from aramaic to English here: [link to tweeofmeer.webs.com]

and the translations by the priest from aramaic to German and then by another to English here: [link to fourwinds10.com]

Thank you for the info! I will check out the links :)

you will find out Judas was NOT the betrayer, he was framed. that will be I think a future topic to rattle cages with my signature file. I have before and those stuck in a box call me evil for it. There was a betrayer, the story is true, they just framed the wrong person in the bible, it was an enemy of Jesus with a similar name.

getting off glp for a bit, need to meditate and rest in the sun before its gone from my southern room and get to my own forum for a bit.

Peter?

No, not Peter!

Mathew!....no wait...

You have by far the strangest beliefs I have come across here , sorry . You are totally fubar !!!

Don't keep me in suspense Obe, who is it?

Judas was the Master's closest and dearest friend(he would NEVER have betrayed him).........now you know why the writers of the bible, cast him as the betrayer!

But it was Paul who elected to utilized a person with a sound alike name to cast a web of deceit over the name of Judas! A fella named Juda was the betrayer!!!(when you hear his whole name, you'll understand why)

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Yep, contrived by SAUL with Simon Iharioth the Pharisee and carried out by Juda Iharioth his son. after Saul became Paul, he was a terrible teacher, who did not well understand anything. Made a big mess of the teachings.

Judas was his closest friend and SCRIBE how wrote the best reports on the live of Jesus, and you can read about it in the links above on the life of Jesus

I don't have "beliefs" which belong to blind followers. I have KNOWING, big difference bud.

I guess the next episode in my signature file should be Judas. Also two of you above assumed it was one of the other apostles. Why? There were so many who could back then not just his group of 24. OOPS 24? Yes indeed. He was the original women's rights person and he had 12 WOMEN apostle's too, lead by Mary Magdalene. SURPRISE! How convenient these were left out of your bible.

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Candace: This is a piece you need to send to everyone on your lists and your forums you participate on. Thru Hazel.

A Father’s Plea- The Creator
I come in this solitary moment to introduce MYSELF to those who do not know ME; to those who know of ME; to those who view me in a religious context; and to reinforce MY presence within those who do know ME.


Times of great change loom auspiciously upon your earth plane and you of the human civilisation must come into the knowing of MY presence; hastily I might add.


I AM the ONE you call GOD, Creator, Source, Universal Deity, Foremost intelligence, Ultimate determiner, Final Judge and Adjudicator. It matters not the variation in title for I AM ONE and the same. I will simply refer to MYSELF as the Universal Father of ALL creation.


Titles and names create distinctions and causes separation in one’s understanding as one seeks a God of his/her culture. Know that God is One and All is One and ONE is ALL. It is when you come to understand this simple truth that profound awareness will dawn.


I come to affirm your status as sons and daughters of the light; for it is imperative at this juncture that you perceive yourself in light. Light is the quintessential you. That which darkens your world does not define you. Your body does not define you. Your earthly status does not define you. It is I the Creator of All, that defines you.


I cannot be seen but that does not mean that I do not exist. I can be known and experienced from within; and that is more credible than seeing. Knowing is your proof; feeling is your rule of measure. The nature of ME is the nature of you and you must therefore call upon your understanding of ME to know yourself.


I have many times brought the same message in different ways through different ones and I shall continue to do this until your immortal soul, which you are is allowed entrance into your physical mind to minister truth. Why do I endeavour with constancy and consistency to bring you truth? Simply my beloveds because you are MINE and I desire you to return home to ME. The route your take is of course your choice but I desire to see you placed on the path of knowing.

Which father will leave his children unattended, without care or supreme love? I cannot see you continuously suffering and not endeavour to lead you out of turmoil. It is love which engenders MY effort. I can see what beholds your world presently. I know what is transpiring and what will fall upon thee. I come to assist the confused, to bring clarity that those who may doubt will accept ME once and for all; not blindly or because I say you should, but because you know you must.


I am the living essence of truth within you. You can only find your truth there. I issue an invitation to you at this twelfth hour that has come upon the earth plane. Turn to ME; even if you never have before; turn to ME, call upon ME; not in challenge, but in need and love. I shall respond.


What other choice do you have dear ones? This is my final bid to draw you into the fold using only truth and a promise of a brighter future. The purpose of your life at this very moment should be to discover ME with haste as the winds of change carry yet another cycle to completion; that the new and exciting tomorrow may be yielded for your earth.


Many are now walking a tightrope with little balance left; so what say you? Will you not join the bandwagon of lighted beings and begin the most wondrous exploration of a new plane filled with knowledge and excitement for grander and purposeful living?


The canopy of change has now descended. You need only look around your world to witness the great confusion and collapse materialising. Will you continue to deny what you face or what it portends for your world? Who is your likely salvation now? When all is crumbling around you, who will you call upon? Can you save yourselves? From my vantage point I will offer a negative response.

That which you face on your earth is beyond your control and that which is fortuitously taking place cosmically is also beyond your control. I wish to tell you MY plans for you but how many will hear and believe? How many of MY ones have you castigated and deemed mental? Well it is those very ones who are sane my beloved children. The ‘mental’ ones are the knowing ones; the ones who know MY truth and serve it. It would serve you well to rethink what you have heard from the voices of God. For these ones who bring truth are MY voice.


I will not come again to you in this way. I take the bolder approach that you may hear without fear. Can you not hear the appeal through these MY words. Do not say after the event that the Father has deserted you or cast you aside. For the Father comes here and now to woo you back home. Will you hear and answer?

For generations I have sent MY beloved sons to effort with you of earth plane. Now I come MYSELF. Will you still reject the ONE you say you love? Must I descend from the clouds for you to believe? I do not live up to false conceptions or beliefs; for I serve Truth, which I AM. I can only urge you to seek truth by listening to the voice within. You will not see ME my little ones, but you will know ME if you know truth for I am already here.


I come not to create fear or feed your doubts. I come in truth only to tell you that your time on the earth has all but ended. Night is upon you now and some will never awaken to a blooming tomorrow. Take MY hand now for this is the final offer before the curtain falls.


I AM THE CREATOR OF ALL THAT IS- MY SON WHO YOU KNOW AS THE CHRIST IS ONE WITH ME AND THERE IS NO DISTINCTION. YOU ARE ONE WITH ME FOR I CREATED YOU. I PROCLAIM THE VICTORY OF THE LIGHT. THE TIME FOR SEPARATION HAS COME.

Hazel

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I started this thread in part to use it to make commentary about karma given to me, since those dishing it out, red thumbs that is are chicken and will not sign, except in rare cases.

Will you freaking learn the difference between your OPINION and fact? Seriously, it gets old the "matter of fact" way tou spew the most insane drivel.

Now, to this one above, if I have an "opinion" I say so. If I am not sure but "think" something "might " be the case, I use clear wording to that.

IF I KNOW, you get what I write, period. Just the facts mam or sir. Take it or leave it. If you are the red thumb giver above, please come back around and tell me what FACTS you did not agree with. I do NOT spew "drivel" here, provide the thread and page on which you found the post. Thankyou.

shake, rattle and roll....don't ever stop, with love...

Well, cage rattling is pretty easy here at GLP. Most of us do it occasionally just by accident. You post something and somebody reads 1/2 of what you wrote, misinterprets it, and is on you like a rabid dog. Hey, if you enjoy that kind of thing, more power to you.

I don't enjoy rabid dogs, but I do love my work and I am committed to it. I just would those who toss the red thumbs like above to not hide and come out and stand. They can even send me a PM or post in one of my threads that I have pinned and given the link to the thread where they disagree. Those that nail and run, I have the issue with.

I don't think you can send a PM unless you are paid member. I've tried b/4 and get this big old red stop sign that says I've entered a restricted area. I guess I'll have to use some of my green to upgrade.

Nope you can't you can only receive, which is why my suggestion, of posting in one of my active threads. This one would work since I put some of my karma in it. Maybe the giver of that one above will come visit someplace.

One of these days you are going rattle the cage and discover someone forgot to latch the door.

will my newest red thumb obviously given by one who gave everyone the same red thumb or he/she sure mixed me up with somebody else.

Go bow to your deity obama and allow others the freedom to believe without your hateful dribble.

I am one of the biggest "obama" busters here. funny!

You keep your karma bar from full red by reporting posts, copyright and using green rooms. GLP sees through you. If you didn't do that, you're be at 1000% red.

Well my greens are 607 and my reds are 646. 503 of my greens are USER votes, and 21 are for pinned threads, gifts by users with green thumbs to spend. So I have 524 earned green thumbs.

Only 83 greens are from well desired abuser reports and copy right violations, so by the pure nature of math, you loose. and also you need to go back to school on math, because in terms of karma points, there cannot be 1000%.


IF you view the top greens folks they all are mostly thread reports. So I don't think you can make a valid claim that I am over reporting abusive threads and copyright reports to keep my karma where it is. Get a mind and use it.

I noticed you have developed quite an attitude lately , it doesn't suit you .

really now? And you are to determine what I DO?

Yeah,but just think,once this is all over, you will get a new body and you will be healthy and happy and you can do all the things you have missed out on for so long! Won't that be great?
ID anyone deserves a new body it's you.
All those handicapped the deformed, the crippled, etc,,, they deserve new bodies,too.

Just an observation .

P.S. Tell the boss I said that you do deserve an new body because you've earned it and it's the least they could do for you. I hate human suffering. Tears my heart out.

I have always had an "attitude" here and thru my life.

Why did they put it in the UB that it was Judas? Just need to clear that up. Thanks.

To get the book into print and also to hide the fact of Esu I guess at the time and the offspring he left in India. The thugs hunt out the descendants and murder them, even after all those years. I re read some of the portion of the UB recently and it sure sounds like the read betrayer, Juda Iharioth, the son of the Pharisee.

They would not have wanted the scrolls Esu's son buried in first grave found before their time or by the wrong people either.