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Jonny Blaze User ID: 1671225 United States 01/16/2012 07:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Instead of a conventional force, they would have to 'volunteer' in exchange for a reduced sentence. They would only be useful after going through some type of military/prison boot camp training. Then you would air-drop them behind enemy lines...in urban areas preferably. Let them wreak havoc only in areas the enemy has been occupied. They would only be useful if the local population wasn't loyal to the enemy forces...IMO. The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank." The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects. The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard. The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass. |
lawnornament User ID: 8647996 United States 01/16/2012 07:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this is stupid for so many reasons. 1. Not all prisoners are violent criminals. Some of them might be in a federal prison for something like, tax evasion ? Does everyone here agree taxes are fair, i certainly hope not, and maybe those people should be considered heros and activists instead of criminals. Same goes for many of the drug offenders, you know which drugs. 2. They would probably run the fuck away. 3. If you sent violent criminals into war, you might as well toss the ROE out the window. Let's see how many nations like us after our military's standard practice is rape, and killing civilians instead of just a "few bad apples." 4. What if they're only serving a few years and they're nearly paroled. Why force them into combat? I could think of more but this is stupid. You're obviously ignorant anyawys, why do we need more soldiers at all? The wars we are fighting right now are unjust and based on lies for profit and NWO agenda progression. Do you really want to help stuff the pockets of the rich, and help out the UN/NATO more ? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8930625 Germany 01/16/2012 07:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bad idea. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8930625 Criminals are in prison because they cannot function in society. The military is much more demanding than civilian society. All you would be doing is punishing the good soldiers, and the civilian population in any country they are sent to. Contrary to Hollywood, convicts do not make good soldiers. This why the military has prisons. Um excuse me for pointing out the obvious but TPTB are mostly criminals and they have no trouble functioning (unobserved) in society. I do believe those in prison could function in society if they too were offered positions of power where they could commit ALL the crimes they pleased whilst being totally exempt form prosecution. The PTB are not functioning in an infantry platoon. Apples and oranges. Convicts in prison cannot function in a society, which is why they are in prison, and would wind up in a military prison very swiftly if allowed into the military. It's why the military has prisons. Criminals are not exempt from prosecution in the military. Military society is much stricter than normal society. Completely flawed logic on your part. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 3897523 United States 01/16/2012 07:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | actually its not a bad idea if they were given the option to do so they could leave and not only be free from jail forever but also be treated with the respect soldiers are given.. and also come home as a hero or die on the field.. either way anything is better than jail.. i can tell you that much.. and any asshole that thinks this aint a good idea can go fuck themselves.. |
lawnornament User ID: 8647996 United States 01/16/2012 07:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | actually its not a bad idea if they were given the option to do so they could leave and not only be free from jail forever but also be treated with the respect soldiers are given.. and also come home as a hero or die on the field.. either way anything is better than jail.. i can tell you that much.. and any asshole that thinks this aint a good idea can go fuck themselves.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3897523 jail isn't prison. Jail is much better than war. As for prison, i think you're less likly to be raped in war. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7909604 Canada 01/16/2012 07:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Imo this is deeply Inhuman! Quoting: Atom-Boy Also please have a look why so many People in America are in a Prison and what Race is representing this Group! Precisely. It's an outrage! Besides the military is a form of prison too: Soldiers serve as guinea pigs for Big Pharma, they can't leave when they want to, they must do as they're told without thinking (whilst most "real" prisoners CAN and DO actually think for themselves and that's often one of he reasons they're in jail) and so on. You can trust a Murikan "prisoner" more than you can a Murikan soldier. In most cases, the soldier is a retarded psycho, whereas the prisoner is in there 'cause the prison system in the USSA is BIG BUSINESS and uses prison populations as SLAVE LABOUR. "Cross Canada" radio show host was spouting off about Canada not putting as many people in prison as the USSA. Well, he's a stupid f**k anyway, but just think - if we had as many people in prison as in the States, there would be no one walking the streets. God, but that radio host is as stupid & irritating as his voice! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7909604 Canada 01/16/2012 07:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this is stupid for so many reasons. Quoting: lawnornament 1. Not all prisoners are violent criminals. Some of them might be in a federal prison for something like, tax evasion ? Does everyone here agree taxes are fair, i certainly hope not, and maybe those people should be considered heros and activists instead of criminals. Same goes for many of the drug offenders, you know which drugs. 2. They would probably run the fuck away. 3. If you sent violent criminals into war, you might as well toss the ROE out the window. Let's see how many nations like us after our military's standard practice is rape, and killing civilians instead of just a "few bad apples." 4. What if they're only serving a few years and they're nearly paroled. Why force them into combat? I could think of more but this is stupid. You're obviously ignorant anyawys, why do we need more soldiers at all? The wars we are fighting right now are unjust and based on lies for profit and NWO agenda progression. Do you really want to help stuff the pockets of the rich, and help out the UN/NATO more ? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3897523 United States 01/16/2012 07:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | actually its not a bad idea if they were given the option to do so they could leave and not only be free from jail forever but also be treated with the respect soldiers are given.. and also come home as a hero or die on the field.. either way anything is better than jail.. i can tell you that much.. and any asshole that thinks this aint a good idea can go fuck themselves.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3897523 jail isn't prison. Jail is much better than war. As for prison, i think you're less likly to be raped in war. why the fuck would you grammer nazi spelling nazi correct my fucking words when you know exactly what i mean when i say jail.. i mean prison and you know that right? so what the fuck are you trying to imply when trying to think your teaching me and correcting me at the same time?? fucking poof.. fuck you!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8930625 Germany 01/16/2012 07:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | actually its not a bad idea if they were given the option to do so they could leave and not only be free from jail forever Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3897523 Great idea. So when they return home, they are free from prison forever, which gives them license to kill, rob, rape, as they please. A very well thought out plan. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1527041 New Zealand 01/16/2012 08:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bad idea. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8930625 Criminals are in prison because they cannot function in society. The military is much more demanding than civilian society. All you would be doing is punishing the good soldiers, and the civilian population in any country they are sent to. Contrary to Hollywood, convicts do not make good soldiers. This why the military has prisons. Um excuse me for pointing out the obvious but TPTB are mostly criminals and they have no trouble functioning (unobserved) in society. I do believe those in prison could function in society if they too were offered positions of power where they could commit ALL the crimes they pleased whilst being totally exempt form prosecution. The PTB are not functioning in an infantry platoon. Apples and oranges. Convicts in prison cannot function in a society, which is why they are in prison, and would wind up in a military prison very swiftly if allowed into the military. It's why the military has prisons. Criminals are not exempt from prosecution in the military. Military society is much stricter than normal society. Completely flawed logic on your part. I don't see the flawed logic. I am simply pointing out that criminals CAN function in society IF they are given the same opportunities / positions of power as TPTB. In any case let's just agree to disagree. |
GeekOfTheWeek User ID: 8795702 United States 01/16/2012 08:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe that this would be a great solution, and better the a draft. They would be thankful to be out from behind bars, and may actually do a heck of a job. If they fihht honorably, they would have a chance of a dramtically reduced sentence following the war. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8319482 Please excuse the typos. I agree. Better than what is going on with them now. It's very expensive to house prisoners. Maybe they could learn some honor and get some job training. I love physics. It bonds us eternally, it's what makes our computers work, it's what's in my morning cup of coffee, it's the thing that keeps the universe from vanishing due to lack of belief... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8930625 Germany 01/16/2012 08:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bad idea. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8930625 Criminals are in prison because they cannot function in society. The military is much more demanding than civilian society. All you would be doing is punishing the good soldiers, and the civilian population in any country they are sent to. Contrary to Hollywood, convicts do not make good soldiers. This why the military has prisons. Um excuse me for pointing out the obvious but TPTB are mostly criminals and they have no trouble functioning (unobserved) in society. I do believe those in prison could function in society if they too were offered positions of power where they could commit ALL the crimes they pleased whilst being totally exempt form prosecution. The PTB are not functioning in an infantry platoon. Apples and oranges. Convicts in prison cannot function in a society, which is why they are in prison, and would wind up in a military prison very swiftly if allowed into the military. It's why the military has prisons. Criminals are not exempt from prosecution in the military. Military society is much stricter than normal society. Completely flawed logic on your part. I don't see the flawed logic. I am simply pointing out that criminals CAN function in society IF they are given the same opportunities / positions of power as TPTB. In any case let's just agree to disagree. Nobody in the military has positions of power that the Powers That Be have. I'm guessing you have never been in the military, but I can tell you it is a very regimented world, where you are told what to do 24/7. You don't have power. You are powerless. You either do what you are told during your term of service, or you will very quickly see what they can and will do to you. Why you are bring up TPTB and mixing it into a thread on prisoners and the military is pure idiocy. Yes, we do disagree. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7909604 Canada 01/16/2012 08:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | actually its not a bad idea if they were given the option to do so they could leave and not only be free from jail forever Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3897523 Great idea. So when they return home, they are free from prison forever, which gives them license to kill, rob, rape, as they please. A very well thought out plan. As opposed to soldiers who come back sane, healthy and happily productive citizens, right? You'd better research what constitutes a "crime" that can put in a USSA prison. If you ever do, you'll find you're probably guilty of a few yourself. The list of so-called crimes will get even longer and more ludicrous as TPTB shut down the "Murikan Dream." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8942753 United States 01/16/2012 08:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All the companies that benefit from skilled labor at 22 cents an hour are not going to allow this. Thass right jobs that should pay 40 50 60 75 k , good blue collar jobs are being done by prisoners while free men and women are homeless with their families. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8773428 United States 01/16/2012 08:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe that this would be a great solution, and better the a draft. They would be thankful to be out from behind bars, and may actually do a heck of a job. If they fihht honorably, they would have a chance of a dramtically reduced sentence following the war. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8319482 take it yer from da French side of canadian eq?? lolo |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 8930625 Germany 01/16/2012 08:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | actually its not a bad idea if they were given the option to do so they could leave and not only be free from jail forever Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3897523 Great idea. So when they return home, they are free from prison forever, which gives them license to kill, rob, rape, as they please. A very well thought out plan. As opposed to soldiers who come back sane, healthy and happily productive citizens, right? You aren't making sense. Returning veterans either adjust to society, as most do, or if they commit crimes, they are arrested and tried like any other civilian. You advocated giving convicts a free pass for life if they serve in the military. Nobody gets a free pass. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8930625 Germany 01/16/2012 08:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't get me wrong here. There are plenty of non-violent people in prison who got sentenced for something like embezzling or something like that, who have a history of non-violence, who I would say could benefit from a sentence being changed to community service while paying back what they owed. But violent criminals? The military is not a good place for them. |
Jonny Blaze User ID: 1671225 United States 01/16/2012 08:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I actually thought about this years and years ago. Quoting: Jonny Blaze Instead of a conventional force, they would have to 'volunteer' in exchange for a reduced sentence. They would only be useful after going through some type of military/prison boot camp training. Then you would air-drop them behind enemy lines...in urban areas preferably. Let them wreak havoc only in areas the enemy has occupied. They would only be useful if the local population wasn't loyal to the enemy forces...IMO. I meant to say this^. Yeah, practical logic says it's a stupid idea. Therefore, it would only be practical if we started to lose a world war effort. Lets say, if the Russians and Chinese beat our asses in the middle east and Pakistan and North Korea jumped on board some type of axis powers alliance. If shit went south for our military globally in a war that started in the middle east and part of Europe was 'occupied', I'd say send in the 25 to lifers. The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank." The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects. The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard. The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7909604 Canada 01/16/2012 08:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe that this would be a great solution, and better the a draft. They would be thankful to be out from behind bars, and may actually do a heck of a job. If they fihht honorably, they would have a chance of a dramtically reduced sentence following the war. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8319482 Please excuse the typos. I agree. Better than what is going on with them now. It's very expensive to house prisoners. Maybe they could learn some honor and get some job training. Not honor - horror. There is no honor in the military. You're in it 'cause 1- you're stupid and enjoy taking orders (hence, avoiding taking responsibility for your actions) 2- you're a psycho and can't afford analysis/treatment 3- lust after shiny useless jangles pinned on a uniform 4- desperate for a paycheck. 5- everybody in your family is/has been in the military. It's a family tradition. Since the USSA has been at "war" since its inception it's not hard to imagine. etc. Honor doesn't factor into it. I can't be bothered to delve in the "job training" part - you're obviously brainwashed beyond repair. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 7909604 Canada 01/16/2012 08:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | actually its not a bad idea if they were given the option to do so they could leave and not only be free from jail forever Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3897523 Great idea. So when they return home, they are free from prison forever, which gives them license to kill, rob, rape, as they please. A very well thought out plan. As opposed to soldiers who come back sane, healthy and happily productive citizens, right? You aren't making sense. Returning veterans either adjust to society, as most do, or if they commit crimes, they are arrested and tried like any other civilian. You advocated giving convicts a free pass for life if they serve in the military. Nobody gets a free pass. Many Vietnam Vets (another "noble" Murikan war) came back deranged and drug-addicted to live as beggars in cardboard boxes. Too many to count. The deranged, drugged-up killers returning from these new and improved Murikan "wars" will make for a terrible revelation in due time. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8930625 Germany 01/16/2012 08:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8930625 Great idea. So when they return home, they are free from prison forever, which gives them license to kill, rob, rape, as they please. A very well thought out plan. As opposed to soldiers who come back sane, healthy and happily productive citizens, right? You aren't making sense. Returning veterans either adjust to society, as most do, or if they commit crimes, they are arrested and tried like any other civilian. You advocated giving convicts a free pass for life if they serve in the military. Nobody gets a free pass. Many Vietnam Vets (another "noble" Murikan war) came back deranged and drug-addicted to live as beggars in cardboard boxes. Too many to count. The deranged, drugged-up killers returning from these new and improved Murikan "wars" will make for a terrible revelation in due time. Some will. Most will just get on with their lives, like all the other wars. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7909604 Canada 01/16/2012 09:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7909604 As opposed to soldiers who come back sane, healthy and happily productive citizens, right? You aren't making sense. Returning veterans either adjust to society, as most do, or if they commit crimes, they are arrested and tried like any other civilian. You advocated giving convicts a free pass for life if they serve in the military. Nobody gets a free pass. Many Vietnam Vets (another "noble" Murikan war) came back deranged and drug-addicted to live as beggars in cardboard boxes. Too many to count. The deranged, drugged-up killers returning from these new and improved Murikan "wars" will make for a terrible revelation in due time. Some will. Most will just get on with their lives, like all the other wars. I don't want to disturb your sleep, but things have changed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8930625 Germany 01/16/2012 09:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8930625 You aren't making sense. Returning veterans either adjust to society, as most do, or if they commit crimes, they are arrested and tried like any other civilian. You advocated giving convicts a free pass for life if they serve in the military. Nobody gets a free pass. Many Vietnam Vets (another "noble" Murikan war) came back deranged and drug-addicted to live as beggars in cardboard boxes. Too many to count. The deranged, drugged-up killers returning from these new and improved Murikan "wars" will make for a terrible revelation in due time. Some will. Most will just get on with their lives, like all the other wars. I don't want to disturb your sleep, but things have changed. Thanks, that clears it all up. |
Zero Point User ID: 8760297 Australia 01/16/2012 09:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe that this would be a great solution, and better the a draft. They would be thankful to be out from behind bars, and may actually do a heck of a job. If they fihht honorably, they would have a chance of a dramtically reduced sentence following the war. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8319482 They'll just hold their guns sideways and look like retards. Another public service announcement from the Southern Hemisphere Information Leveraging Locus. |
bluemirage0311 User ID: 7892598 United States 01/16/2012 07:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe that this would be a great solution, and better the a draft. They would be thankful to be out from behind bars, and may actually do a heck of a job. If they fihht honorably, they would have a chance of a dramtically reduced sentence following the war. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8319482 They'll just hold their guns sideways and look like retards. 1st Bn 4th Marines Whatever It Takes |