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AA has Thornhill made any public comments regarding our present situation at this time. Does he feel much the same as you do about humanities situation?
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I do not know who you are referring to, could you give a first name so I could look into it? The only Thronhill I know is a vintage rock band. (not trying to be a smartass)
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Wallace Thornhill he wrote the book the "Electric Universe". I believe he is an astrophysicist from Australia. Here is a link to Red Ice Radio where he was interviewed:

[link to www.youtube.com]
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I suppose I should have known that , but the fact is I stray away from reading the ideas of others and incorporating them into my own theories. It was Henry Ford who said "the more your read, the less you know", and I believe him , considering my personal experience. I will however research this individual and his theory, since it appears to at least some degree match my own ideas. I got most of my inspiration from Tesla, who was an experimenter and an observer and not a theoretical physicists, who I believe are worth about a penny a pound.
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Hey A.A,

Do you know, or have an idea of what the actually physical effects this is having on the human body?

Personally IMO, I can tell when the sun is 'different' due to the fact that my Fibromyalgia pain seems to flare up and my Chronic Fatigue goes thru the roof (thru the floor might be a better way of putting it). However my husband has been experiencing weird symptoms on & off the last few weeks and they seem to be almost insync with my up & down flares. I mentioned 'solar radiation' to him and he said that would actually explain the unusual rash on his arms.

Thanks A.A

hi
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Hey A.A,

Do you know, or have an idea of what the actually physical effects this is having on the human body?

Personally IMO, I can tell when the sun is 'different' due to the fact that my Fibromyalgia pain seems to flare up and my Chronic Fatigue goes thru the roof (thru the floor might be a better way of putting it). However my husband has been experiencing weird symptoms on & off the last few weeks and they seem to be almost insync with my up & down flares. I mentioned 'solar radiation' to him and he said that would actually explain the unusual rash on his arms.

Thanks A.A

hi
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another thread on this FYI
Thread: Magnetic Field Deficiency Syndrome- MAKING US SICK **MUST READ***
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AA.....thank you so much for sharing your expertise! I can't imagine how exhausting it must be for you to keep up with data, life and this thread. You are greatly appreciated!! Barbara
Love & Light...
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I appreciate your patience with us that are just trying to understand the science!!!!hf
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AA has Thornhill made any public comments regarding our present situation at this time. Does he feel much the same as you do about humanities situation?
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I do not know who you are referring to, could you give a first name so I could look into it? The only Thronhill I know is a vintage rock band. (not trying to be a smartass)
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Wallace Thornhill he wrote the book the "Electric Universe". I believe he is an astrophysicist from Australia. Here is a link to Red Ice Radio where he was interviewed:

[link to www.youtube.com]
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I didn't watch the video but I have started reading some of his publications. He has some very similar ideas to my own. I think if you looked at the universe logically and discarded quantum theory, almost all theoretic physicists would come to similar conclusions.

One of the things that intrigued me is how he came to the exact same conclusion as I did about gravity, that it was a weak form of electromagnetism..

That is why it is important to me at least not to read the ideas of others so much. If many people come to exactly the same conclusions independently, it gives credence to the theory .

No one understands quantum theory, there is absolutely no consensus whatsoever, no two men in the world describe it the same way, and very few will attempt to that claim they do understand it, which is odd in of itself. Einstein and all his crap needs to recognized for what it is, convoluted self contradictory nonsense, a complex fiction.

[oddly I was banned from my own thread, i can imagine why, think it might have something to do with my comments about NASA. Some of NASA's proponents and employees are just plain nuts]
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Hey A.A,

Do you know, or have an idea of what the actually physical effects this is having on the human body?

Personally IMO, I can tell when the sun is 'different' due to the fact that my Fibromyalgia pain seems to flare up and my Chronic Fatigue goes thru the roof (thru the floor might be a better way of putting it). However my husband has been experiencing weird symptoms on & off the last few weeks and they seem to be almost insync with my up & down flares. I mentioned 'solar radiation' to him and he said that would actually explain the unusual rash on his arms.

Thanks A.A

hi
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I have the rash on my arms and chronic fatigue myself, I have chronic pain but don't know if it fibromyalgia , I just take tramodol for it and it works. i feel like I am aging very quickly. When i get out in the Sun the exposed skin itches very badly and I scratch it without knowing while sleeping and actually bleed all over the place.
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Hey A.A,

Do you know, or have an idea of what the actually physical effects this is having on the human body?

Personally IMO, I can tell when the sun is 'different' due to the fact that my Fibromyalgia pain seems to flare up and my Chronic Fatigue goes thru the roof (thru the floor might be a better way of putting it). However my husband has been experiencing weird symptoms on & off the last few weeks and they seem to be almost insync with my up & down flares. I mentioned 'solar radiation' to him and he said that would actually explain the unusual rash on his arms.

Thanks A.A

hi
 Quoting: MzTreeChick


another thread on this FYI
Thread: Magnetic Field Deficiency Syndrome- MAKING US SICK **MUST READ***
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Yes, I read that thread, remember, we are dealing with several different kinds of radiation that have widely varying affects:

UVa and UVb--skin deep, not penetrating but can cause sever skin damage, melonoma and skin cancer

Proton radiation- Depending on the energy level can penetrate through the body. It is ionizing radiation and it does DNA damage to cells. It is also a bit like being shit to pieces with billions of tiny projectiles when the flux level is high. Very dangerous form of radiation. When it impacts metal objects like cars, it is converted to x and depending upon the energy level, gamma radiation, flooding the interior with high flux levels of high energy emr.

Cosmic radiation: Extremely high energy particle radiation capable of penetrating deep into the ground. It is generally composed of protons and sometime Neutrons. Flux densities are usually low. Let's pray they stay that way.

Gamma radiation- Short wavelength Electromagnetic radiation sometimes emitted by the Sun or by the impact of high energy particle radiation on metal objects. Highly ionizing and very deadly at moderate flux levels.

X radiation. Longer wavelength than Gamma, less damaging but still potentially deadly, also produced by impact of particle radiation on metal objects. X ray flares are very common and when the Sun is directly overhead are very dangerous and can cause radiation sickness and even death
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I appreciate your patience with us that are just trying to understand the science!!!!hf
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It seems complicated ,but in reality it is fairly simple. The more you read, the more you will understand.

A good starting point is with electromagnetic radiation

google search 'electromechanical theory of electromagnetic radiation', the first hit is my publication explaining the duality principal of light (all electromagnetic radiation frequencies are classified scientifically as 'light')
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Hey A.A,

Do you know, or have an idea of what the actually physical effects this is having on the human body?



Thanks A.A

hi
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This particular question requires a more detailed answer than I gave, so I will attempt to answer it to the best of my ability.

All ionizing radiation causes damage at the cellular level, and to dna. This means that not only can it kill cells, it can cause damage to dna without killing the cell, and if that cell replicates you have cancer. The damage caused by ionizing radiation is dependent on two factors , flux density (amount) and energy level (the shorter the wavelength of electromagnetism radiation, the more energetic it is, and the higher the velocity times the mass of particle radiation, the higher the energy level. The formula for the Kinetic energy of particle radiation is 1/2 mass times velocity squared. (1/2 m X v2) Therefore a proton and a neutron moving at the same velocity have the same energy level because they have the same mass, but an electron moving at the same energy level has much less energy than either a proton or neutron because the mass is much less.

The best policy with radiation is to understand the effects are cumulative, and although some recovery dies occur between exposures, the 'healing' is never complete. The more and the higher energy level radiation you are exposed to, the quicker you will die. it is a very simple formula.
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Hey A.A,

Do you know, or have an idea of what the actually physical effects this is having on the human body?

Personally IMO, I can tell when the sun is 'different' due to the fact that my Fibromyalgia pain seems to flare up and my Chronic Fatigue goes thru the roof (thru the floor might be a better way of putting it). However my husband has been experiencing weird symptoms on & off the last few weeks and they seem to be almost insync with my up & down flares. I mentioned 'solar radiation' to him and he said that would actually explain the unusual rash on his arms.

Thanks A.A

hi
 Quoting: MzTreeChick


I have the rash on my arms and chronic fatigue myself, I have chronic pain but don't know if it fibromyalgia , I just take tramodol for it and it works. i feel like I am aging very quickly. When i get out in the Sun the exposed skin itches very badly and I scratch it without knowing while sleeping and actually bleed all over the place.
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I know how you feel, so soft hugs from me to you.

Fibromyalgia is just the token name, meaning joint & muscle pain (full body) doesn't do it justice thou. I stopped taking Tramadol amongst other meds & am now on (for the last 2mths) Magnesium powder for pain (BIG HELP), VitC powder for cell repair, and Mega B liquid for fatigue (notice a difference even with solar issues).

As soon as I go out in the sun I feel as though I get instant sunburn, the itching you get may infact be from the Tramadol, the skin itchy & restless legs eased once I stopped taking it, but you need to weigh up the best options for you. I know what you mean when you FEEL like you are aging very quickly.

Thank you for doing all you are and helping us to remain informed whilst you are going thru what you are. cheer

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Hey A.A,

Do you know, or have an idea of what the actually physical effects this is having on the human body?

Personally IMO, I can tell when the sun is 'different' due to the fact that my Fibromyalgia pain seems to flare up and my Chronic Fatigue goes thru the roof (thru the floor might be a better way of putting it). However my husband has been experiencing weird symptoms on & off the last few weeks and they seem to be almost insync with my up & down flares. I mentioned 'solar radiation' to him and he said that would actually explain the unusual rash on his arms.

Thanks A.A

hi
 Quoting: MzTreeChick


I have the rash on my arms and chronic fatigue myself, I have chronic pain but don't know if it fibromyalgia , I just take tramodol for it and it works. i feel like I am aging very quickly. When i get out in the Sun the exposed skin itches very badly and I scratch it without knowing while sleeping and actually bleed all over the place.
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I think I'm aging really fast too. I'm just about 28 and spent the summers of 09-10 driving delivery in the hot summer sun. My hair rather suddenly at one point decided to start falling out like crazy, very rapid onset male pattern baldness as well as going grey also. The lines on my face seem deeper than they should be at this age and I am always tired.
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AA- Why the KP index is still at "unsettled stage". Is the event of yesterday continuing or are we facing a new event . Can we get a regular update from your perpective on the activities as these events are unfolding.
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AA- Why the KP index is still at "unsettled stage". Is the event of yesterday continuing or are we facing a new event . Can we get a regular update from your perpective on the activities as these events are unfolding.
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The Sunspot group 4022 has produced a near m class flare with resulting CME that is just now arriving, meaning the conductivity of space is greater than usual as I have been saying. The electron flux is about 1/90th it's normal flux density which accounts for the 30-40 nanotesla reading of the geomagnetic field strength. Right now any moderate to sever activity from this nearly perfectly geo-effective sunspot region 4011 that is growing in size could produce magnified results, due to the increased conductivity of space and the weakened electron flux, which I believe the plasma cloud is absorbing.
The forecast is as I said before and have been saying all along for it to get gradually worst as we near the 'dark riff' of the galactic plane, which is a cloud of concentrated plasma that is dense enough to block starlight.

I FULLY EXPECT ALL SOLAR ACTIVITY TO HAVE MAGNIFIED RESULTS
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AA- Why the KP index is still at "unsettled stage". Is the event of yesterday continuing or are we facing a new event . Can we get a regular update from your perpective on the activities as these events are unfolding.
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The Sunspot group 1422 has produced a near m class flare with resulting CME that is just now arriving, meaning the conductivity of space is greater than usual as I have been saying. The electron flux is about 1/90th it's normal flux density which accounts for the 30-40 nanotesla reading of the geomagnetic field strength. Right now any moderate to sever activity from this nearly perfectly geo-effective sunspot region 4011 that is growing in size could produce magnified results, due to the increased conductivity of space and the weakened electron flux, which I believe the plasma cloud is absorbing.
The forecast is as I said before and have been saying all along for it to get gradually worst as we near the 'dark riff' of the galactic plane, which is a cloud of concentrated plasma that is dense enough to block starlight.

I FULLY EXPECT ALL SOLAR ACTIVITY TO HAVE MAGNIFIED RESULTS
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Correction sunspot 1422
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i realize we could get zinged anyday now, but do you feel it will still be possible to ingnore in spring? Do we make it through summer without everyone freaking out, is fall when shit gets serious, or does it hold off for a really big show in Dec???
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i realize we could get zinged anyday now, but do you feel it will still be possible to ingnore in spring? Do we make it through summer without everyone freaking out, is fall when shit gets serious, or does it hold off for a really big show in Dec???
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It will get gradually worst. Springtime will be when you really start to realize we are in trouble, by the middle of the summer it's going to be extremely hot with intense weather systems and areas of extreme drought that ordinarily experience heavy rainfall in the summer. There will be a gradual decline in all plant life exposed to direct sunlight. loss of leaves, slow to no growth , with the death of many centurion trees.
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Thanks for your work "Astro"........I tried to Karma Pin this very important thread but the system won't allow it. Again, my thanks, Sir. We indeed are in deep trouble or so it appears.


MOD's Please Pin this THREAD, thanks.
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Thanks for your work "Astro"........I tried to Karma Pin this very important thread but the system won't allow it. Again, my thanks, Sir. We indeed are in deep trouble or so it appears.


MOD's Please Pin this THREAD, thanks.
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The mods don't want anything with proof that makes accurate predictions pinned on this subject, or anything that flies in the face of conventional faith based scientific religion, They want this place to be an exchange of disinformation and confusion instead of have credibility. The strange thing is, it is a bastion of truth, you just have know how to see a diamond in a bowl of turds.
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Thank you so much astrophysicist, you are right up there on top of the list of the most intelligent people I have seen on glp, and appreciate that you share all of your expertise with little clueless people like myself. Fascinating.
I know that on certain days when the sun is acting up, I get this profound fatigue right in the middle of the day (unusual for me), and have go lie down, sometimes falling fast asleep for several hours. Comes on fast, and at the same time as others I know. Arms / legs feel like they are made of lead, can hardly keep my head up or eyes open. Wow. I think we are in for it in the future as this gets worse. I pray the Lord to watch over us until He intervenes in the affairs of this crazy world, soon I hope.
BTW, you and MzTree,,,,get some organic blackstrap molasses...after a tablespoon of this per day for a couple of weeks, you will feel much better..I know...have had cfs myself. It has many things / minerals in it, including magnesium / calcium / sulphur & phosphorous / potassium. Really helps and is completely natural. You can get it at the health food store.
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Thank you so much astrophysicist, you are right up there on top of the list of the most intelligent people I have seen on glp, and appreciate that you share all of your expertise with little clueless people like myself. Fascinating.
I know that on certain days when the sun is acting up, I get this profound fatigue right in the middle of the day (unusual for me), and have go lie down, sometimes falling fast asleep for several hours. Comes on fast, and at the same time as others I know. Arms / legs feel like they are made of lead, can hardly keep my head up or eyes open. Wow. I think we are in for it in the future as this gets worse. I pray the Lord to watch over us until He intervenes in the affairs of this crazy world, soon I hope.
BTW, you and MzTree,,,,get some organic blackstrap molasses...after a tablespoon of this per day for a couple of weeks, you will feel much better..I know...have had cfs myself. It has many things / minerals in it, including magnesium / calcium / sulphur & phosphorous / potassium. Really helps and is completely natural. You can get it at the health food store.
:highfive kitty:
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The pronounced fatigue is a symptom many are experiencing, including myself. Some days I can hardly get out of bed, I just want to go back to sleep. I drink two pots of coffee a day fighting the exhaustion,
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The pronounced fatigue is a symptom many are experiencing, including myself. Some days I can hardly get out of bed, I just want to go back to sleep. I drink two pots of coffee a day fighting the exhaustion,
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I put a tablespoon of blackstrap molasses in my second cup of coffee each day...it also has assimilatable iron and b vitamins including B6. google up on it... It really does help.
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The pronounced fatigue is a symptom many are experiencing, including myself. Some days I can hardly get out of bed, I just want to go back to sleep. I drink two pots of coffee a day fighting the exhaustion,
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I put a tablespoon of blackstrap molasses in my second cup of coffee each day...it also has assimilatable iron and b vitamins including B6. google up on it... It really does help.
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I take vitamin pills, multi vitamins, because i don't eat right. But i will try it. Some days I don't feel like eating at all.
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I take vitamin pills, multi vitamins, because i don't eat right. But i will try it. Some days I don't feel like eating at all.
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No wonder you feel bad. The BSM provides vitamins / minerals that are assimilatable (real food), as opposed to the mixtures in the pills, which are often lost due to their synthesis proportions etc. Your appetite for better food will increase with this.... And, cut down on some of that coffee ffs
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Electron flux and geomagnetic field recovering rapidly, the storm is over:


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I take vitamin pills, multi vitamins, because i don't eat right. But i will try it. Some days I don't feel like eating at all.
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No wonder you feel bad. The BSM provides vitamins / minerals that are assimilatable (real food), as opposed to the mixtures in the pills, which are often lost due to their synthesis proportions etc. Your appetite for better food will increase with this.... And, cut down on some of that coffee ffs
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I can't cut down on the caffeine, I need some stimulant just to stay awake and mentally aware, but i will take your advice on the nutrition. It does make sense. If it were legal I would take amphetamines. I could probably get a prescription for adderal, as I could easily fake the symptoms of ADHD
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Thank you so much astrophysicist, you are right up there on top of the list of the most intelligent people I have seen on glp, and appreciate that you share all of your expertise with little clueless people like myself. Fascinating.
I know that on certain days when the sun is acting up, I get this profound fatigue right in the middle of the day (unusual for me), and have go lie down, sometimes falling fast asleep for several hours. Comes on fast, and at the same time as others I know. Arms / legs feel like they are made of lead, can hardly keep my head up or eyes open. Wow. I think we are in for it in the future as this gets worse. I pray the Lord to watch over us until He intervenes in the affairs of this crazy world, soon I hope.
BTW, you and MzTree,,,,get some organic blackstrap molasses...after a tablespoon of this per day for a couple of weeks, you will feel much better..I know...have had cfs myself. It has many things / minerals in it, including magnesium / calcium / sulphur & phosphorous / potassium. Really helps and is completely natural. You can get it at the health food store.
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I know the feeling. It really kicks in after I eat a huge lunch. But I always take my Lorcet's, Soma, & xanax about 1/2 hour before I eat. I have thought about not having the cocktail with lunch though. It really seems to make it harder to stay awake.
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Thank you so much astrophysicist, you are right up there on top of the list of the most intelligent people I have seen on glp, and appreciate that you share all of your expertise with little clueless people like myself. Fascinating.
I know that on certain days when the sun is acting up, I get this profound fatigue right in the middle of the day (unusual for me), and have go lie down, sometimes falling fast asleep for several hours. Comes on fast, and at the same time as others I know. Arms / legs feel like they are made of lead, can hardly keep my head up or eyes open. Wow. I think we are in for it in the future as this gets worse. I pray the Lord to watch over us until He intervenes in the affairs of this crazy world, soon I hope.
BTW, you and MzTree,,,,get some organic blackstrap molasses...after a tablespoon of this per day for a couple of weeks, you will feel much better..I know...have had cfs myself. It has many things / minerals in it, including magnesium / calcium / sulphur & phosphorous / potassium. Really helps and is completely natural. You can get it at the health food store.
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 Quoting: Arnie


I know the feeling. It really kicks in after I eat a huge lunch. But I always take my Lorcet's, Soma, & xanax about 1/2 hour before I eat. I have thought about not having the cocktail with lunch though. It really seems to make it harder to stay awake.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3648215

That would put an elephant to sleep for christs sake. I never was into the pharmaceuticals, I think of them as poison, but now I'm taking metoprolol, tramadol, and clonazepam just to deal with the stress, pain and anxiety, and yes, I am experiencing excrement anxiety and suffering from generalized pain throughout my body that I have no ide what is causing it. I'm not a fraidy cat, the anxiety is result of some external stimulus.





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