WARNING: SOLAR DATA PAGE COMPLETELY CENSORED,DATA ON OTHER SOURCES BEING FABRICATED!

Thread: WARNING: SOLAR DATA PAGE COMPLETELY CENSORED,DATA ON OTHER SOURCES BEING FABRICATED! (Page 307)


Last Edited by ehecatl on 08/30/2012 08:24 PM

For some more interesting reading until AA returns. This is from the book NEXT by Michael Crichton. While it doesn't tie in directly to solar data, it does with some of AA's critics about reliable data and peer review and all that.

The bolded is mine.


SCIENTISTS SEE A BAN ON RESEARCH
The current American administration has said that embryonic stem cells can be taken from existing research lines, but not from new embryos. Scientists regard existing lines as inadequate, and thus view the ruling a de facto ban on research. That‘s why they are going to private centers to carry out their research, without federal grants.
But in the end, the real problem isn‘t simply a lack of stem cells. It‘s the fact that in order to produce therapeutic effects, scientists need each person to have his or her own pluripotent stem cells. This would allow us to regrow an organ, or to repair damage from injury or disease, or to undo paralysis. This represents the great dream. No one is able to perform these therapeutic miracles now. No one even has an inkling how it might be done. But it requires the cells.
Now, for newborns, you can collect umbilical cord blood and freeze it, and people are doing that with their newborns. But what about adults? Where will we get pluripotent stem cells?
That‘s the big question.

TOWARD THE THERAPEUTIC DREAM
All we adults have left is adult stem cells, which can make only one kind of tissue. But what if there were a way to convert adult stem cells back into embryonic stem cells? Such a procedure would enable every adult to have a ready source of his or her own embryonic stem cells. That would make the therapeutic dream possible.
Well, it turns out that you can reverse adult stem cells, but only if you insert them into an egg. Something within the egg unwinds the differentiation and converts the adult stem cell back into an embryonic stem cell. This is good news, but it is vastly more difficult to do with human cells. And if the method could be made to work in human beings, it would require an enormous supply of human egg cells. That makes the procedure controversial again.
So scientists are looking for other ways to make adult cells pluripotent. It is a worldwide effort. A researcher in Shanghai has been injecting human stem cells into chicken eggs, with mixed results—while others cluck in disapproval. It‘s not clear now whether such procedures will work.
It‘s equally unclear whether the stem cell dream—transplants without rejection, spinal cord injuries repaired, and so on—will come true. Advocates have made dishonest claims, and media speculation has been fantastical for years. People with serious illnesses have been led to believe a cure is just around the corner. Sadly, this is not true. Working therapeutic approaches lie many years in the future, perhaps decades. Many thoughtful scientists have said, in private, that we won‘t know whether stem cell therapy will work until 2050. They point out that it took forty years from the time Watson and Crick decoded the gene until human gene therapy began.

A SCANDAL SHOCKS THE WORLD
It was in the context of feverish hope and hype that Korean biochemist Hwang Woo-Suk announced in 2004 that he had successfully created a human embryonic stem cell from an adult cell by somatic nuclear transfer—injection into a human egg. Hwang was a famous workaholic, spending eighteen hours a day, seven days a week, in the lab. Hwang‘s exciting report was published in March 2005 inScience magazine. Researchers from around the world flocked to Korea. Human stem cell treatment seemed suddenly on the verge of reality. Hwang was a hero in Korea, and appointed to head a new World Stem Cell Hub, financed by the Korean government.
But in November 2005, an American collaborator in Pittsburgh announced that he was ending his association with Hwang. And then one of Hwang‘s co-workers revealed that Hwang had obtained eggs illegally, from women who worked in his lab.
By December 2005, Seoul National University announced that Hwang‘s cell lines were a fabrication, as were his papers in Science. Science retracted the papers. Hwang now faces criminal charges. There the matter stands.

PERILS OF MEDIA HYPE
What lessons can be drawn from this?; asked Professor McKeown. ;First, in a media-saturated world, persistent hype lends unwarranted credulity to the wildest claims. For years the media have touted stem cell research as the coming miracle. So when somebody announced that the miracle had arrived, he was believed. Does that imply there is a danger in media hype? You bet. Because not only does it raise cruel hopes among the ill, it affects scientists, too. They start to believe the miracle is around the corner—even though they should know better.
What can we do about media hype? It would stop in a week, if scientific institutions wanted that. They don‘t. They love the hype. They know it brings grants. So that won‘t change. Yale, Stanford, and Johns Hopkins promote hype just as much as Exxon or Ford. So do individual researchers at those institutions. And increasingly, researchers and universities are all commercially motivated, just like corporations. So whenever you hear a scientist claim that his statements have been exaggerated, or taken out of context, just ask him if he has written a letter of protest to the editor. Ninety-nine times out of a hundred, he hasn‘t.
Next lesson: Peer review. All of Hwang‘s papers in Science were peer-reviewed. If we ever needed evidence that peer review is an empty ritual, this episode provides it. Hwang made extraordinary claims. He did not provide extraordinary evidence. Many studies have shown that peer review does not improve the quality of scientific papers. Scientists themselves know it doesn‘t work. Yet the public still regards it as a sign of quality, and says, This paper was peer-reviewed,‘ or ;This paper was not peer-reviewed,‘ as if that meant something. It doesn‘t.
Next, the journals themselves. Where was the firm hand of the editor of Science ? Remember that the journal Science is a big enterprise—115 people work on that magazine. Yet gross fraud, including photographs altered with Adobe Photoshop, were not detected. And Photoshop is widely known as a major tool of scientific fraud. Yet the magazine had no way to detect it.
Not thatScience is unique in being fooled. Fraudulent research has been published in theNew ABC
England Journal of Medicine, where authors withheld critical information about Vioxx heart attacks; in theLancet, where a report about drugs and oral cancer was entirely fabricated—in that one, 250 people in the patient database had the same birth date! That might have been a clue. Medical fraud is more than a scandal, it‘s a public health threat. Yet it continues.

THE COST OF FRAUD
The cost of such fraud is enormous,; McKeown said, estimated at thirty billion dollars annually, probably three times that. Fraud in science is not rare, and it‘s not limited to fringe players. The most respected researchers and institutions have been caught with faked data. Even Francis Collins, the head of NIH‘s Human Genome Project, was listed as co-author on five faked papers that had to be withdrawn.
;The ultimate lesson is that science isn‘t special—at least not anymore. Maybe back when Einstein talked to Niels Bohr, and there were only a few dozen important workers in every field. But there are now three million researchers in America. It‘s no longer a calling, it‘s a career. Science is as corruptible a human activity as any other. Its practitioners aren‘t saints, they‘re human beings, and they do what human beings do—lie, cheat, steal from one another, sue, hide data, fake data, overstate their own importance, and denigrate opposing views unfairly. That‘s human nature. It isn‘t going to change.

i don't think AA will be coming back this time. The high arctic is starting to register well below freezing temps. AA said the ice wont refreeze. But the trend is already on its way, the refreezing should begin in a couple weeks.

AA thought everything would be fried by now,but its business as usual really.

[link to theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com]

Partial quote..
d the High Arctic islands have a particularly high incidence of earthquakes. In nearby Greenland, the annual number of glacial earthquakes is rising, a study from 2006 shows. From 1993 to 2002, there were between six and 15 a year, but in 2003, earthquake scientists — or seismologists — who track the movements of the earth, recorded 20 glacial earthquakes; in 2004, they recorded 24; and, for the first 10 months of 2005, they recorded 32. The seismologists also found that the earthquakes occurred mainly during the summer months, which suggested these movements were associated with rapidly melting ice. -Nunatsaiq

Not sure if OP was banned, but if he wanted to he could get on at his local cafe or internet place. Unless he is very sick no reason why he could not find a way to post. So why hasn't he? We are in the final run and he leaves!! Hmm

This ship has no capítan who can handle the possibility of fair weather.

OOOOHHHH NOOOO Mr. Bill!!!!

Galactic Superwave spotted off the starboard bow!!!!

Thread: Incoming Super Wave emitted from Galaxy Center Black Hole Arrives this October 2012!

I don't wanna be capítan any more Mr. Wizard!!

Bring back AA!!!

AA runs when the lights come on like scattering roaches.

Clearly he does not want to face the music. It's pretty clear now he is going to be dead wrong about the whole ELE by Dec 21 deal. He either just decided to abandon the thread or became so depressed maybe he either went completely insane or even did himself in. Who knows.

gotta love this tvstk website. A science fiction novelist would not have any problems coming up with ideas for a book. No wonder Kiff Heigh take shit from this site and sells to others (reportably).

The mysterium tremendum is a universal part of the ploy of any decent or long-lived confidence racket.



Last Edited by ehecatl on 09/04/2012 02:48 PM

So according to this formula, AA is doing it almost right, by giving us little to no evidence to go on, but reinforcing himself at every opportunity, all the while keeping us in mystery, hanging.

His only error perhaps is to not have the third party informant, like aliens, or his uncle for instance.

'cuz if he says his uncle is a genius, I am more likely to believe it than if he says he is, no matter how many times he says it, because in that case he would not need to prove his uncles intelligence, and he would not need to make any excuses for his own failings.

Last Edited by ehecatl on 09/04/2012 02:58 PM

course if AA is resolute enough in his "knowledge" that the sun will flair up and that most will fry by 12 21 and that if we survive it will be under heavy shelters under a scorched earth,

If he is clear and powerful enough about this future reality, then maybe he will really make it happen....

yeah, that would be cool....

then we could blame him for it.

If you cant be the big G himself, you might as well be the devil.

That's what the gods always say among themselves.

I see Anonymous AsstroAhole is MIA again. How clever. The thread is dying a slow and agonizing (but worthy) death. No longer will the likes of Agent 74444, T-Bar or RTS need to draw his majesty into pointless off topic rants, designed to fool the masses. Neither will readers have to mire through inane and incoherent diatribes on the improprieties of modern scientific corruption or how the whole system is subject to the control of Jewery. Here we are, the Earth still spinning, sun still shining, and toads galore out the back door. Yes I miss the mindless chicanery of these charlatans who run this thread.

AA was smart in that it was only about now that there would be proof that his predictions were BS. Up until now he could yell and scream at those that questioned him, but now time for what he claimed what happen has run out. The whole ban thing I thought was a ruse, because as I said you can always get on from a cafe or a friends house. AA had a good run and while he attacked those that did not agree with him he also made it clear he felt no guilt for those that did, as after all even though he said he was right it was up to you to decide.

was AA real? as in he believed it? was he a paid bot, or just doing it for kicks not sure, but part of me thinks the later. To the poster in Canada I know you might be disappointed, but reality is 99.99% of predictions on GLP fail, and the poster who keeps a list of failed predictions will be adding this one to the list.

If he hadn't pinned it all on dates he might have been able to keep his meme floating, and wouldn't we all be surprised if we all get solar fried ten years down the road, you never know in reality, in fact there is perhaps a greater risk of us getting fried from nearby supernovas.

But as far as AA and his prediction, a lot of the pseudo-science along those lines is tied into the 2012 groups of thought. So they all had to pile into the 2012 canoe or get ignored.

I agree with other GLP posters that there is doom that is actually occurring now in politics, the economy, and the environment, and it is a frog soup situation, a slow motion train wreck, just slow enough to miss human attention.

But as far as the solar weather going totally catastrophic in the near future, I don't see it happening from the sun, but Sirius or Betelgeuse could supernova and fry the earth with x-rays, one side of the planet at least. Maybe that is a long shot too.

Much better odds on political or economic doom in our life-spans I suspect.

Personally I thought I drew IDW into ON-topic rants -- but, then, I always thought the topic was more about his credibility than about his Solar predictions.

Still, I am not going to count my chickens. I will wait until 2013, as I agreed, and assuming I am alive and that the Internet is still here (which would falsify two MORE of IDW's absolutely certain predictions), then repost the newly updated list of things IDW Knows.

Which has grown quite a lot, thanks in no small part to this thread...

Ah, this just in. More scientific evidence it looks like.
Thread: The Sun Is 100x Brighter Than It Used To Be

The Human race never cease to disappoint. So, let's see...A record unprecedented melting of the ice caps occur and you are looking at it refreezing as it all being...OK. check

Record weather patterns
Record sinkholes
Record meteors being sighted
Record flooding
Record number of volcanoes becoming active
Record instances of earthquake activity
Record number of animals (amphibious)dying
Unprecedented Sun behavior
Unprecedented objects being captured around the sun
Record number of UFO reports/sightings
Record speed (since documented) of north pole migration
A Near Earth Object to be the closest approach in 02/13 of any known other than recorded impacts
Record number of military/homeland security purchases
US Banks conducting drills in case Greece Folds


I can go on...and on...and on. It's not about 2012, but it is about common sense and looking at what your eyes are seeing. Those telling you normal, formal..do not give a damn about you or anyone trying to tell you otherwise.

Come on now, he's squinting.....how much more scientific do you want ;)

LONG LIVE AA HOORAH!!!!!!

Well, quite a list of presumptive occurrences as related to the word 'unprecedented.'. A single human life span, frankly has not near enough longevity to comment on the regularity of global events or trends. Maybe we get a better perspective with collective recall (history as it's called), but's that's still suspect. Messages passed through human perceptions invariably stray from the truth to varying degrees. Nevertheless, I will concede some of your allegations may merit further attention, but you cite no sources, official or otherwise. In the end time will reveal the truth, thus it is dubious for imperfect humans to cast out absolutes when it comes to events as yet unknown.

agreed what does "record breaking mean" how far back does the data collection go etc. Some of it only goes back 40 years, so while it maybe "record breaking" not sure it means much. AA said by now most people could not ignore anymore the extreme weather and blazing sun. Sure been some crazy weather but not enough to really get everyone's attention. Here on the east coast the temp has been more or less average for this time of year. It was hot in july but now back to normal.

So, I guess what we're saying is the 'real' doom is manmade and AA is full of it with his imminent 'solar doom.'

That's hilarious. Common sense is being ignored to downplay the obvious.

Let us begin to end the barrage of confusion professional clown are attempting to put into motion here.

Any and all records are based on events in human history that were documented for future reference and comparison. Therefore, the term record breaking is based on these records for which they've always been. This is not a new concept here. The sheer silliness of pointing out what went on before humans documented events or better yet, were capable of doing so is misnomer from homers and serves no purpose or point when we are talking about that which can be compared. See folks, this is how those who seek to keep you dumbed down try to twist your logical mind processing self explanatory information.

A source wasn't cited because there are a plethora of main stream and alternative information outlets that have communicated all of the information listed at nauseum. Research it and come back with specifics that confirms any of the above as inaccurate.
Hilarious. Again, the human race never cease to disappoint. Everyone is comfortable inside their skin, despite the shackles strategically placed around your ankles, soul and mind

Well, then, it shouldn't be any trick to *link* to some of those mainstream and alternative information outlets. I look forward to the post citing such.

Ad Nauseum, indeed.

Let's just take earthquake data for a moment. How are we certain that the number and average intensity level of earthquakes in the recent past are 'unprecedented' in all of human history (let alone the life of the planet). Historically, we haven't been collecting near the amount of earthquake data that we do today. Today's capabilities are greatly more advanced and sensitive than that of 'recorded history.' Granted, over the 'short' (relatively speaking) time span since mankind's capabilities have reached current levels there may be an uptick; however, record and unprecedented seems overstated, in my opinion.



Recorded history is replete with 'misnomers' friend. Differences of interpretation, ego driven agendas, mere human error, the obvious ravages of time on language, conspiratorial influences, are but a few reasons to 'not really too heavily' on historical accounts as absolute fact. Only when the events 'recorded' are significant enough for large populations to witness can strong weight be granted to that historical account. Even in a brief, current moment of time, a message can (and often does) get severely warped when passed through several human filters. As an example, take 15 people in a room, whisper a statement into a persons ear, and then ask each to follow in turn until the message reaches the last person. Then, see how close the message is to the original, you'll be surprised how often the message becomes seriously altered.

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Expressing opinion is not an attempt at 'dumbing' down the reader. Also, anyone who's mind is twisted by reading opinions on an internet blog should probably stay off the internet.



Please offer cites to 'research.'

LOL!

Someone or some group is hard at work here. I'm not going play tit for tat with facts being combatted by opinions, myths and maybe's....LOLOLOLOL!!!

Like I said before, if you can provide ANYTHING specific that PROVES without A DOUBT that ANY of what I posted is inaccurate, then let your true knowledge shine through for all of humanity to witness (or at least this website). If you side step, then you should have never posted to begin with and obviously you are not to be trusted by humanity or anyone viewing this website.

In the meantime, everyone else. Simple Simon stuff here. Disregard the attempts to clutter clear information and clear channels to access and research this information.

As I said before, Record after Record after Record based on known history...which makes it UNPRECEDENTED no matter what questions one may try to inject regarding unknown history. LOL. what the hell?...LOL. Hilarious stuff on the site.

Good Bye all. Remember, never fail to STAND UP again.

You first need to provide ANYTHING specific that PROVES without A DOUBT that ANY of what you posted is ACCURATE.

Physician, heal thyself.