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WE ARE TOAST! Sun goes into Red Giant Phase on 23 Dec 2012. THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT!

 
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do not fear.

we are just going back to eden.
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open your heart and you will pass to eden

peace and blessings
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You need to stop watching 'The Knowing'

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Well the sun was yellow when I were a boy now its white so next up is red.
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Yes, I've been noticing this since 2007.
Don't forget, Sun is being excited with this photon "ribbon". If it goes giant red or not, we just have to wait 10 months.
DON'T FEAR. JUST LOVE.
 Quoting: Mindlouka


Well my friends vision was not of a red giant. In his vision a meteor takes him out, and he is in the new upgraded earth, the Sun is a Beautiful Huge White Giant Star. And its a paradise.
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You need to stop watching 'The Knowing'


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Wow, that is hawt! I bet I could cook a pizza in half a second in that heat.
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I've read some of this before, and he makes a really good case.

Its well worth considering.

And I am so happy.

You have to see the metaphysics in it. The sun is quite a mystery.


Just being inside its light, the whole spectrum of channels.

A CME is like the dance of angels!

I'm going set out the picnic table, we're being freed.

And the cosmic arrest team is coming in. Their dumbs won't hold.

I've been told the prime directive is to free this planet.
 Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn


Told by whom?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10269047


By my contacts. Been experiencing them all my life as has the family. I'm not sure the capacity when we describe ET, is this Et or Family/Guides watching over? They use crafts and technology however. Wear blue uniforms. The crafts we saw as a family were chased by black choppers and we had quite a lot of surveillance, so they're not a part of their black operations.

And I know that the Family is going to arrive, with a Light Greater than the Sun's.

Can we stand in their frequency? Its Love and Goodness. They never harm, war, or allow starvation of anyone. Its time to grow up.

Howevever, there is a huge team of ET and Guides, that surrounds us all, all we need to do is seek/pray or meditate or both, according to our beliefs, but seek to recover from all the programs here, to open our eyes, and to report for duty, to do the work we came to do, to problem solve, to not harm anyone, to start to make up for things, to recover. Love is surrounding us, for the upgrade.

But there are people who need more work, who are not at this grade yet, who still need more time in the school.

I've been shown in visions over and over again, that the cosmic arrests will take place. Those who thought they would go underground and escape, the elite, will not be doing any such thing in the end.

Karma is not about punishment, its about learning the lessons to release the karmic learning. So its about pouring out our weaknesses, being truly sorry for harming others and a strong yearning to grow and turn all our weaknesses into strengths and yearn for a truly upgraded equal world. But on those higher levels people work hard to help others, they are selfless.
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PDF was mildly interesting until the part where it says that super massive black holes are intelligent and used by God as a "scanning program".

Stopped reading after that.
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Just some out of the box thinking.

Could it be that the sun is getting out of fuel (hydrogen) and thiss ribbon which consist of hydrogen is fuelling the sun each 26.000 years?

And we experiencing a partial red giant process each 26000 years?
If this happens every 26.000 years and the earth is engulfed by the sun we wouldn t be here right now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1527598


Happens more or less depending on circumstances:

The forces acting on a neutral hydrogen atom approaching the Sun are gravity and the radiation pressure. In addition, atoms are lost, mainly as a result of charge exchange with solar wind protons which converts a fast solar wind proton into a fast hydrogen atom. The proton of interstellar origin is "picked up" by the interplanetary electric and magnetic fields. The heliocentric distance to which interstellar atoms having a relative speed of ~ 20 km/s can penetrate before the probability of loss by charge exchange becomes high is about 4 AU, corresponding roughly to the distance obtained from the OGO 5 parallax measurements.
[link to web.mit.edu]
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a good read....

I believe this is going to happen as far as this pulse coming through the plane, and whats worst is we are lining up with the plane...so things may get real bad.

Can't afford to move underground...so I will enjoy family and had quit working for two years...knew something is up with all the chemtrails, so live more work less.

good luck to all
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PDF was mildly interesting until the part where it says that super massive black holes are intelligent and used by God as a "scanning program".

Stopped reading after that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1518917


That was the quote i was looking for, cheers for letting me know there had to be some whacked out god bit in there, that saves me the time reading it peace
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Re: WE ARE TOAST! Sun goes into Red Giant Phase on 23 Dec 2012. THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT!
So,will we be able to dig some deep holes to live in and just occasionally place a pizza outside the hole to cook in the 900 degree heat? How long will that take? Probably need a long-handled pizza peel.
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I BELIEVE WE ARE TOAST AND FUCKED! GOOD LUCK FOR US ALL!

[link to www.paneandov.com]

dick
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and it ties into the Mayan calendar timeframe bump wtf
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I like Pane Adov's (SpiritWalker) work, but I disagree with him on this. Strongly disagree.
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the mother***** keep feeding us with the BS of aliens and the like, stupid wars and etc.

But the REAL DEAL is this Giant Ribbon that can kill US ALL. I still reading the PDF, its amazing. With all the proof from NASA missions about this Ribbon.

Where are the TROLLS now? Try to refute this information.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9995724


Look at what they are building at the Olympic Stadium.....
Wormhole ? Ribbon ?

[link to anishkapoor.com]
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So,will we be able to dig some deep holes to live in and just occasionally place a pizza outside the hole to cook in the 900 degree heat? How long will that take? Probably need a long-handled pizza peel.
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So how long for a large pizza?
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Will I need to wear a heat suit?
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only go out at night.
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[link to paneandov.com]

Here is his article and what needs to be done. But I have questions about this. I don't trust sacred geometry. I wonder if we want to shield earth from this energy? I also find that the unity they speak of is always the goal, while at the same time there seems to be a polarization or stronger division happening instead.

And that may be the natural process.

So questions.
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only go out at night.
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I sungaze, not afraid of that energy at all.
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That must be a new phenomenon that science hasn't discovered yet; a star becoming a red giant in 24 hours.

putin
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FOR EVERYONE THAT COME IN HERE.

IF YOU DO NOT READ THE PDF AT THE OP LINK, DO NOT SAY ANYTHING MOTHER*****.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9995724


Just because someone writes a pdf or makes a youtube video doesn't make it true.
The guy above has it right.
Suns don't change very drastically over months.
Ours changes very slightly on a 7 to 9 year cycle.
What you describe would take like tens MILLIONS of years.
Similar to someone else here today wondering if Europe
was entering an ice age because the got some snow for the
first time in a while.

Long periods of time are hard for humans to accept.

Like people worrying about an Earth geomagnetic reversal.
The last one took between 1,000 and 10,000 years start to finish.
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Re: WE ARE TOAST! Sun goes into Red Giant Phase on 23 Dec 2012. THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT!
In intro:

The ionization and pickup of inflowing interstellar hydrogen has large-scale effects
on the supersonic solar wind [1-3]. The pickup process adds energy and momentum to
the wind, resulting in heating and deceleration, which have been observed by the
Voyager 2 plasma instrument. The observed deceleration [4,5] is consistent with
theoretical predictions for the inflowing hydrogen density of N(H) ~ 0.1 cm–3 at the
termination shock [6,7]. However, the plasma instrument on Voyager 2 is not able to
directly detect the pickup protons, which remain in an energetic halo about the much
cooler proton core. Thus, the measured temperatures at Voyager do not represent the
total proton temperature, which should increase linearly with heliocentric radius. At
the same time, the observed core temperatures do exhibit substantial heating beyond ~
20 AU [8,9], where the only plausible energy source would be a process which taps
into the large pool of thermal energy in the pickup protons.


and in sum:

We report on our continued investigations into the turbulent heating of the distant
solar wind driven by the pickup of interstellar hydrogen. In this paper, we apply a
recently developed 2-component phenomenology to model the steady-state radial
evolution of solar wind parcels, comparing the results with the measurements at
Voyager 2. We find excellent agreement with the observed core proton temperature
and with the correlation scale. However, the predicted fluctuation intensity is much
higher than that observed beyond r = 30 AU. We conclude that this driven turbulent
dissipation remains a viable mechanism to explain the observed core heating, but that
further refinements of the phenomenological model appear to be necessary.
[link to researchcommons.waikato.ac.nz]
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In intro:

The ionization and pickup of inflowing interstellar hydrogen has large-scale effects
on the supersonic solar wind [1-3]. The pickup process adds energy and momentum to
the wind, resulting in heating and deceleration, which have been observed by the
Voyager 2 plasma instrument. The observed deceleration [4,5] is consistent with
theoretical predictions for the inflowing hydrogen density of N(H) ~ 0.1 cm–3 at the
termination shock [6,7]. However, the plasma instrument on Voyager 2 is not able to
directly detect the pickup protons, which remain in an energetic halo about the much
cooler proton core. Thus, the measured temperatures at Voyager do not represent the
total proton temperature, which should increase linearly with heliocentric radius. At
the same time, the observed core temperatures do exhibit substantial heating beyond ~
20 AU [8,9], where the only plausible energy source would be a process which taps
into the large pool of thermal energy in the pickup protons.


and in sum:

We report on our continued investigations into the turbulent heating of the distant
solar wind driven by the pickup of interstellar hydrogen. In this paper, we apply a
recently developed 2-component phenomenology to model the steady-state radial
evolution of solar wind parcels, comparing the results with the measurements at
Voyager 2. We find excellent agreement with the observed core proton temperature
and with the correlation scale. However, the predicted fluctuation intensity is much
higher than that observed beyond r = 30 AU. We conclude that this driven turbulent
dissipation remains a viable mechanism to explain the observed core heating, but that
further refinements of the phenomenological model appear to be necessary.
[link to researchcommons.waikato.ac.nz]
 Quoting: just a dude

rofl

I'm guessing you have no idea what any of that actually means, or what the paper is about.

Otherwise you wouldn't have posted it on this thread...

lolsign
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God tells us what to watch for, the signs of His return. My friends, many will try to deceive you from finding out the real Truth. This is an attempt to mislead you (not necessarily by the OP).

"Moreover the light of the moon shall be as the light of the sun, and the light of the sun shall be sevenfold, as the light of seven days, in the day that the LORD bindeth up the breach of his people, and healeth the stroke of their wound"

Isaiah 30:26
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In intro:

The ionization and pickup of inflowing interstellar hydrogen has large-scale effects
on the supersonic solar wind [1-3]. The pickup process adds energy and momentum to
the wind, resulting in heating and deceleration, which have been observed by the
Voyager 2 plasma instrument. The observed deceleration [4,5] is consistent with
theoretical predictions for the inflowing hydrogen density of N(H) ~ 0.1 cm–3 at the
termination shock [6,7]. However, the plasma instrument on Voyager 2 is not able to
directly detect the pickup protons, which remain in an energetic halo about the much
cooler proton core. Thus, the measured temperatures at Voyager do not represent the
total proton temperature, which should increase linearly with heliocentric radius. At
the same time, the observed core temperatures do exhibit substantial heating beyond ~
20 AU [8,9], where the only plausible energy source would be a process which taps
into the large pool of thermal energy in the pickup protons.


and in sum:

We report on our continued investigations into the turbulent heating of the distant
solar wind driven by the pickup of interstellar hydrogen. In this paper, we apply a
recently developed 2-component phenomenology to model the steady-state radial
evolution of solar wind parcels, comparing the results with the measurements at
Voyager 2. We find excellent agreement with the observed core proton temperature
and with the correlation scale. However, the predicted fluctuation intensity is much
higher than that observed beyond r = 30 AU. We conclude that this driven turbulent
dissipation remains a viable mechanism to explain the observed core heating, but that
further refinements of the phenomenological model appear to be necessary.
[link to researchcommons.waikato.ac.nz]
 Quoting: just a dude

rofl

I'm guessing you have no idea what any of that actually means, or what the paper is about.

Otherwise you wouldn't have posted it on this thread...

lolsign
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follow-up on previous post from AC 1527598

U presume too much.
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I BELIEVE WE ARE TOAST AND FUCKED! GOOD LUCK FOR US ALL!

[link to www.paneandov.com]

dick
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Is that you Atlanticobr ?
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In intro:

The ionization and pickup of inflowing interstellar hydrogen has large-scale effects
on the supersonic solar wind [1-3]. The pickup process adds energy and momentum to
the wind, resulting in heating and deceleration, which have been observed by the
Voyager 2 plasma instrument. The observed deceleration [4,5] is consistent with
theoretical predictions for the inflowing hydrogen density of N(H) ~ 0.1 cm–3 at the
termination shock [6,7]. However, the plasma instrument on Voyager 2 is not able to
directly detect the pickup protons, which remain in an energetic halo about the much
cooler proton core. Thus, the measured temperatures at Voyager do not represent the
total proton temperature, which should increase linearly with heliocentric radius. At
the same time, the observed core temperatures do exhibit substantial heating beyond ~
20 AU [8,9], where the only plausible energy source would be a process which taps
into the large pool of thermal energy in the pickup protons.


and in sum:

We report on our continued investigations into the turbulent heating of the distant
solar wind driven by the pickup of interstellar hydrogen. In this paper, we apply a
recently developed 2-component phenomenology to model the steady-state radial
evolution of solar wind parcels, comparing the results with the measurements at
Voyager 2. We find excellent agreement with the observed core proton temperature
and with the correlation scale. However, the predicted fluctuation intensity is much
higher than that observed beyond r = 30 AU. We conclude that this driven turbulent
dissipation remains a viable mechanism to explain the observed core heating, but that
further refinements of the phenomenological model appear to be necessary.
[link to researchcommons.waikato.ac.nz]
 Quoting: just a dude

rofl

I'm guessing you have no idea what any of that actually means, or what the paper is about.

Otherwise you wouldn't have posted it on this thread...

lolsign
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follow-up on previous post from AC 1527598

U presume too much.
 Quoting: just a dude


It still has nothing to do with claims by nutters that the sun is going to turn into a red giant. In fact it has nothing to do with the sun's energy output, state or expected lifetime whatsoever.

As usual a web search turns up something that sounds vaguely related, and rather than taking time to understand what it's about, it gets posted as supporting evidence for some crakcpot idea, even though it has no relevance.

See the much-posted Iorio paper on the lunar orbital eccentricity as a good example...
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One equal temper of heroic hearts made weak by time and fate but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and not to yield"
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I like Pane Adov's (SpiritWalker) work, but I disagree with him on this. Strongly disagree.
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I've been waiting for you to enter this thread cool2
Be the change you want the World to be. Be someone that makes you happy.
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I BELIEVE WE ARE TOAST AND FUCKED! GOOD LUCK FOR US ALL!

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dick
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I laughed so hard I almost shit my pants...lmao.....you, and Pane, are full of giant piles of shit. There will be no Red Giant shift of our sun in 2012....none.....look for your doom elsewhere......dummy...
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I don't know, the guy does not seem to have an ulterior motive and is recommending evacuation come next month. He stresses many times that this is NOT nonsense. He says there are many more red giants that just popped up in the galaxy?

Do all you think he's making everything up?


It would seem the lot of you are scared, so you have some "reaction formation" of your own, namely denying everything
for fear of sh-itting your pants.
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Although I would really really love for this to happen and start us all over fresh and new, you all do realize that this sort of thing has been said it would happen many times over now?

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