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AmericanJedi User ID: 1503533 United States 02/13/2012 07:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We're almost back to where we were in 07 as far as the DOW goes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10401141 Now, is the jobs market the same as it was back then... No Is the housing market as good as it was.. No Is the National debt better or worse than back then... worse is the deficit better or worse... worse All indicators are pointing to things being worse than 07, Yet, the markets are at the same level as they were. This... is what a bubble looks like. This is the mother of all bubbles and it was called that several years back by several respected traders and market oracles. It's just a matter of time and doing the math. (GLP aka American Jedi) Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth. Kenny Powers If you steal the dreams of others long enough, sooner or later you'll end up in a nightmare. American Jedi Intellectuals solve problems, geniuses prevent them. Albert Einstein Satis Eloquentiae, Sapientiae Parum.... "The last of the old?" "No, the first of the new." |
Burt Gummer User ID: 7702124 United States 02/13/2012 07:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ....yeah so it won't go above 13,000 haha ain't no conspiracy to it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8594909 Watch what happens when oil prices rise.....or Italy can't refinance it's debt in coming months. Oil prices have risen...NO CRASH NO DOOM As for Italy, their yields have dropped faster than the avrage GLP poster's IQ... DOUBLE FAIL Oh great clueless one.... 1) True that oil prices have DOUBLED since Obama took office....but you misunderstand and seem to have NO CONCEPT of what happens if IRAN goes to war. You think oil prices are UP???....you ain't seen NOTHING YET if that happens. ...the cratering NYSE and NASDAQ will be the least of the worries. 2) Do you have ANY concept of what you are talking about Italy, Portugal, Spain, Ireland...and the EU debt issues? You are either being WILLFULLY IGNORANT....or REALLY dumb. ...or even potentially a government shill. Which is it? Last Edited by Useless Cookie Eater on 02/13/2012 07:15 PM |
rightpolicy User ID: 1493398 United States 02/13/2012 07:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look at TNA and TZA to trade the full market ups and downs. When the big one happened in 2008, it touched $300 per share. These are ETFs that run 3 times the opposite percentage the Russell 2000 index. Right now, I'm all in on TZA shorting the index. When it all falls this year hard, and it WILL fall hard this year, it's my insurance. |
Starwind User ID: 4546990 United States 02/13/2012 07:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ....yeah so it won't go above 13,000 haha ain't no conspiracy to it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8594909 Watch what happens when oil prices rise.....or Italy can't refinance it's debt in coming months. Oil prices have risen...NO CRASH NO DOOM As for Italy, their yields have dropped faster than the avrage GLP poster's IQ... DOUBLE FAIL Oh great clueless one.... 1) True that oil prices have DOUBLED since Obama took office....but you misunderstand and seem to have NO CONCEPT of what happens if IRAN goes to war. You think oil prices are UP???....you ain't seen NOTHING YET if that happens. 2) Do you have ANY concept of what you are talking about Italy, Portugal, Spain, Ireland...and the EU debt issues? You are either being WILLFULLY IGNORANT....or a REALLY dumb. With his threads reaching the double digits and his posts in the hundreds with the same exact message I think he enjoys the thought of making other people mad. And is mis understanding people arguing with him when we try to say "No you aren't rubbing anything in, you are fucking stupid, you don't understand economics, things are bad and you are just doing yourself a disservice by willfully ignoring the problems to try and say things are great right now" Thats why almost all of his posts reference someone being mad at his message, he is a renegade out to fight for the unpopular opinion regardless of what people say to him. So not only is he ignoring real economists urging possible problems in the near future he seems to be 14. |
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Burt Gummer User ID: 7702124 United States 02/13/2012 07:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With his threads reaching the double digits and his posts in the hundreds with the same exact message I think he enjoys the thought of making other people mad. Quoting: Starwind And is mis understanding people arguing with him when we try to say "No you aren't rubbing anything in, you are fucking stupid, you don't understand economics, things are bad and you are just doing yourself a disservice by willfully ignoring the problems to try and say things are great right now" Thats why almost all of his posts reference someone being mad at his message, he is a renegade out to fight for the unpopular opinion regardless of what people say to him. So not only is he ignoring real economists urging possible problems in the near future he seems to be 14. You know what.....you probably hit the nail on the head. OP at work......... |
AmericanJedi User ID: 1503533 United States 02/13/2012 07:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.bloomberg.com] “Europe’s increasingly weak macroeconomic prospects, which threaten the implementation of domestic austerity programs and the structural reforms that are needed to promote competitiveness,” are also factors, Moody’s said in a statement. These factors will continue to affect market confidence, “which is likely to remain fragile, with a high potential for further shocks to funding conditions for stressed sovereigns and banks.” That is economics speak for, "Hey, it's a big turd sammich, and we want to feed it to the peasants (middle class & lower)." If Zazz thinks this won't spill over onto Wall Street he needs a basic arithmetic class. (GLP aka American Jedi) Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth. Kenny Powers If you steal the dreams of others long enough, sooner or later you'll end up in a nightmare. American Jedi Intellectuals solve problems, geniuses prevent them. Albert Einstein Satis Eloquentiae, Sapientiae Parum.... "The last of the old?" "No, the first of the new." |
Desert Fox User ID: 8786935 United States 02/13/2012 07:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With his threads reaching the double digits and his posts in the hundreds with the same exact message I think he enjoys the thought of making other people mad. Quoting: Starwind And is mis understanding people arguing with him when we try to say "No you aren't rubbing anything in, you are fucking stupid, you don't understand economics, things are bad and you are just doing yourself a disservice by willfully ignoring the problems to try and say things are great right now" Thats why almost all of his posts reference someone being mad at his message, he is a renegade out to fight for the unpopular opinion regardless of what people say to him. So not only is he ignoring real economists urging possible problems in the near future he seems to be 14. You know what.....you probably hit the nail on the head. OP at work......... Basically what I said earlier. :TOMABANEFOX: It's more humane this way ya know, or burn on totem pole. Choice is yours. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5926374 United States 02/13/2012 07:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Burt Gummer Watch what happens when oil prices rise.....or Italy can't refinance it's debt in coming months. :uhohmkt: Oil prices have risen...NO CRASH NO DOOM As for Italy, their yields have dropped faster than the avrage GLP poster's IQ... DOUBLE FAIL Oh great clueless one.... 1) True that oil prices have DOUBLED since Obama took office....but you misunderstand and seem to have NO CONCEPT of what happens if IRAN goes to war. You think oil prices are UP???....you ain't seen NOTHING YET if that happens. 2) Do you have ANY concept of what you are talking about Italy, Portugal, Spain, Ireland...and the EU debt issues? You are either being WILLFULLY IGNORANT....or a REALLY dumb. :clues: With his threads reaching the double digits and his posts in the hundreds with the same exact message I think he enjoys the thought of making other people mad. And is mis understanding people arguing with him when we try to say "No you aren't rubbing anything in, you are fucking stupid, you don't understand economics, things are bad and you are just doing yourself a disservice by willfully ignoring the problems to try and say things are great right now" Thats why almost all of his posts reference someone being mad at his message, he is a renegade out to fight for the unpopular opinion regardless of what people say to him. So not only is he ignoring real economists urging possible problems in the near future he seems to be 14. :upyours: |
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Burt Gummer User ID: 7702124 United States 02/13/2012 07:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Zazz 2 Oil prices have risen...NO CRASH NO DOOM As for Italy, their yields have dropped faster than the avrage GLP poster's IQ... DOUBLE FAIL Oh great clueless one.... 1) True that oil prices have DOUBLED since Obama took office....but you misunderstand and seem to have NO CONCEPT of what happens if IRAN goes to war. You think oil prices are UP???....you ain't seen NOTHING YET if that happens. 2) Do you have ANY concept of what you are talking about Italy, Portugal, Spain, Ireland...and the EU debt issues? You are either being WILLFULLY IGNORANT....or a REALLY dumb. With his threads reaching the double digits and his posts in the hundreds with the same exact message I think he enjoys the thought of making other people mad. And is mis understanding people arguing with him when we try to say "No you aren't rubbing anything in, you are fucking stupid, you don't understand economics, things are bad and you are just doing yourself a disservice by willfully ignoring the problems to try and say things are great right now" Thats why almost all of his posts reference someone being mad at his message, he is a renegade out to fight for the unpopular opinion regardless of what people say to him. So not only is he ignoring real economists urging possible problems in the near future he seems to be 14. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5926374 United States 02/13/2012 07:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I cant believe they didnt jump on board when the dow was 8k,9k,10k,11k. Man I was all in at 9k They're just pissy mad at me! Someone finally make a prediction that will hold water! Meanwhile all they get for their troubles are Lorna Doones given to them by their mommies!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5926374 United States 02/13/2012 07:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Burt Gummer Oh great clueless one.... 1) True that oil prices have DOUBLED since Obama took office....but you misunderstand and seem to have NO CONCEPT of what happens if IRAN goes to war. You think oil prices are UP???....you ain't seen NOTHING YET if that happens. 2) Do you have ANY concept of what you are talking about Italy, Portugal, Spain, Ireland...and the EU debt issues? You are either being WILLFULLY IGNORANT....or a REALLY dumb. :clues: With his threads reaching the double digits and his posts in the hundreds with the same exact message I think he enjoys the thought of making other people mad. And is mis understanding people arguing with him when we try to say "No you aren't rubbing anything in, you are fucking stupid, you don't understand economics, things are bad and you are just doing yourself a disservice by willfully ignoring the problems to try and say things are great right now" Thats why almost all of his posts reference someone being mad at his message, he is a renegade out to fight for the unpopular opinion regardless of what people say to him. So not only is he ignoring real economists urging possible problems in the near future he seems to be 14. :upyours: :crazytroll: :dumbpeeps: A troll stating facts..wow what is your definition of a troll? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5926374 United States 02/13/2012 07:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We're almost back to where we were in 07 as far as the DOW goes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10401141 Now, is the jobs market the same as it was back then... No Is the housing market as good as it was.. No Is the National debt better or worse than back then... worse is the deficit better or worse... worse All indicators are pointing to things being worse than 07, Yet, the markets are at the same level as they were. This... is what a bubble looks like. This is the mother of all bubbles and it was called that several years back by several respected traders and market oracles. It's just a matter of time and doing the math. And they all called for a crash DEFINITELY by 2011. And we all know how that played out. Market's up about 10% since then. |
Burt Gummer User ID: 7702124 United States 02/13/2012 07:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Starwind With his threads reaching the double digits and his posts in the hundreds with the same exact message I think he enjoys the thought of making other people mad. And is mis understanding people arguing with him when we try to say "No you aren't rubbing anything in, you are fucking stupid, you don't understand economics, things are bad and you are just doing yourself a disservice by willfully ignoring the problems to try and say things are great right now" Thats why almost all of his posts reference someone being mad at his message, he is a renegade out to fight for the unpopular opinion regardless of what people say to him. So not only is he ignoring real economists urging possible problems in the near future he seems to be 14. A troll stating facts..wow what is your definition of a troll? If they were actually "FACTS"....I, and others on this thread, wouldn't be calling you out for TROLLING. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1610093 United States 02/13/2012 07:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So Op, are you giving the rest of your money to the fuckers who took it before. This is all it is, the last pillage before the village is set on fire. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1245622 I can't wait until people like you are on my front porch trying to sell me your wife for a piece of bread. I'll give you two pieces of bread and some mayo. She gets the meat..... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5926374 United States 02/13/2012 07:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If they were actually "FACTS"....I, and others on this thread, wouldn't be calling you out for TROLLING. :getwell: So the DOW has NOT been up about 10% this year? It is NOT approaching 13,000? That's the title of my thread!! Can you read, or does your Mom help you out? |
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marlborolightsplease User ID: 1276307 United States 02/13/2012 07:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We're almost back to where we were in 07 as far as the DOW goes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10401141 Now, is the jobs market the same as it was back then... No Is the housing market as good as it was.. No Is the National debt better or worse than back then... worse is the deficit better or worse... worse All indicators are pointing to things being worse than 07, Yet, the markets are at the same level as they were. This... is what a bubble looks like. This is the mother of all bubbles and it was called that several years back by several respected traders and market oracles. It's just a matter of time and doing the math. And they all called for a crash DEFINITELY by 2011. And we all know how that played out. Market's up about 10% since then. right!! What are these people gonna do when 12/21/2012 comes and go's like 12/31/1999???? bahahahaha |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5926374 United States 02/13/2012 07:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I actually agree with both sides, market will be at all times highs by election and will even continue. But the next flush, probably in 3-4 years will be... there are no words. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1598952 now you start with 3-4 years. cmon there will be no 3-4 years. it will go down soon!! And the eternal cry says doom tomorrow. Well its been so accurate if you would not live in your mothers basement and would have one fuckin clue about economy you would know better!! because its unavoidable and you can post whatever you want. the economy is doomed!!! Funny, that's what they said about Iceland.. Big crash over there huh? |
Burt Gummer User ID: 7702124 United States 02/13/2012 07:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some added proof of OP's ongoing economic delusions...... On DRUDGE....right now..... "MOODY'S Downgrades Italy, Portugal; Changes Outlook on France, UK to Negative." [link to www.drudgereport.com] Direct link...... [link to www.moodys.com] Last Edited by Useless Cookie Eater on 02/13/2012 07:50 PM |
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DallasDog User ID: 1534226 United States 02/13/2012 07:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look at TNA and TZA to trade the full market ups and downs. When the big one happened in 2008, it touched $300 per share. These are ETFs that run 3 times the opposite percentage the Russell 2000 index. Right now, I'm all in on TZA shorting the index. Quoting: rightpolicy When it all falls this year hard, and it WILL fall hard this year, it's my insurance. The problem is you can't hold most 2x or 3x ETFs. The vig will eat you alive They are designed to deteriorate in value. Thats why most have had multiple reverse splits You need to be nimble and trade in and out of the ETFs which ride the indices, but you can't hold them The problem, as always is in TIMING But, for what it's worth, there was huge volume in SPY 132 puts today and in VIX March 35 calls last Thursday The market is giving every hint of prepping for a sell off imminently, capped by its inability to push through 135 resistance JMHO, and I don't mean to bore people here with trader talk, but yes...eventually the macros may affect market direction, but as they say - the market can remain irrational for a lot longer than any of us can remain solvent trying to short it |