Do You Believe in the Reality of Parallel Universes?

No, actually you recieve an unpleasent vist from the MIB.

MIB? We will assume you are talking about the ufologists mythical Men in Black - again one of those classical alien myths which has yet to be proven.

How about this scenario instead. You suddenly find you are
'in'. And you suddenly find yourself meeting a whole new group of humanoid and alien beings - You have achieved a
level of awareness that makes you 'one of them'. What 'they'
will then say or do to you would remain to be seen. As a humanoid from the Planet Earth they might have a negative view of you and then???? Risky business for a human.

-If we accept you we will communicate; If not we will erase your memory of the encounter and send you back.

It may also be considered that since all so-called reality is always and in some way dependent on the mind{s} perceiving it, then a parallel universe may also be dependent on conceptual belief. At some points proof and belief, and science and religion may have points where they converge. But maybe that is for another universe - a parallel universe.

-Calculations are a part of reality in most dimensions.

It is the speed of time, not light, that man must master to explore the universe.

yes...I think it would be possible...but can't figure out how it would be done...I mean do you just fall into an alternate reality? Not knowing anything? I know the energy has to be there...but how does it all interconnect?

I am thinking 'phase shift.'

Under what circumstances would we be able to create this shift of reality within our being, making it possible to cross into another?

From things we have read, it appears that the hman mind is capable of many things...all by itself, without the aid of machinery of any sort.

There is the power of will, the ability to know our vibrational energy...what is missing?

Perhaps we must be able to 'change our mind' to some degree, that allows the shift to happen. Do you try to 'mix up' the hemispheres of our brain, akin to a human 'pole reversal' of some sort. Is there some biochemical process that is already within our system, just waiting to activate such a process...once we know how to tap into it?

Our physiological makeup makes us the most intricate machines known, yet, our greatest scientists have only unraveled very basic information about how our systems work. Much of what they think they know is about 'effect' only. A deep look at big pharma pretty much proves that while they can turn-off, or disrupt, certain functions, they know almost nothing beyond the parts of 'pathways' they have been able to map and effect. If they REALLY KNEW what the body was doing, they would be discovering absolute cures. The cascades of functions that occur in any nanosecond without our bodies is so complex, just as in a nuclear chain reaction: pfft! It's like CERN looking for their goddamn particle, it's all in fleeting fractions, one might never discover--even if it's occuring right before your eyes.

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So, it is my opinion that if interdimensional travel is possible, the key lies hidden within us. We just have to find the pathway, or, series of pathways, to make it reality.

One more thing: nutrition.

I would think that what we consume could foil any attempt to get there.

The great aesthetics of history have employed fasting in their journeys. There must be a point when the body is not busy digesting food, so its energies are available for higher functions.

I would even go so far to say, just as they are finding about the perils of GMO foodcrops, the crap we ingest probably make these higher endeavours an impossibility.

But, we do have the ability to cleanse ourselves. The next goal would be to be careful what we ingest, in limited, sustainable portions. then, look to Mother Nature for the right mix of herbals, perhaps, that will open those pathways.

Let's not forget clean air and water.

Let us try to focus. First a parallel universe would have to be existent independently of the mind of the self - it would have to be more than imagination. Second when and if discovered to exist it would require analysis to be sure of compatibility - the real possibility must be considered that some parallel universes would be antagonistic to this one and going there may cause 'all hell to break loose'. Third: Once discovered and defined method of transport would have to be found - not likely that we would find 'Stargates' as in the Sci-Fi series SG-1 left by a group of so-called 'Ancients';
BUT according to some philosophical systems such as Platos
there are a priori ideal forms that are there for us to discover. In that case the discovery and proof of a parallel dimension might in itself open the gate to the discovery that allows entry into that parallel dimension. As
Einstein's E=MC2 allowed for the unleashing of nuclear power
some other mathematical formula may allow the opening of Stargates to other universes. To date all we have is Quantum
Mechanics {Quantum Physics} which does in fact indicate the very real possibility of a parallel universe.

Or as stated at the beginning of this thread:

Some physicists now accept the possibility of parallel universes.

Supposedly there is proof of this. Here is a quote from an article by John Brandon {Published April 05, 2010}
titled "Freaky Physics Proves Parallel Universes Exist":

"Look past the details of a wonky discovery by a group of California scientists -- that a quantum state is now observable with the human eye -- and consider its implications: Time travel may be feasible. Doc Brown would be proud.
The strange discovery by quantum physicists at the University of California Santa Barbara means that an object you can see in front of you may exist simultaneously in a parallel universe -- a multi-state condition that has scientists theorizing that traveling through time may be much more than just the plaything of science fiction writers.
And it's all because of a tiny bit of metal -- a "paddle" about the width of a human hair, an item that is incredibly small but still something you can see with the naked eye.
UC Santa Barbara's Andrew Cleland cooled that paddle in a refrigerator, dimmed the lights and, under a special bell jar, sucked out all the air to eliminate vibrations. He then plucked it like a tuning fork and noted that it moved and stood still at the same time.
That sounds contradictory, and it's nearly impossible to understand if your last name isn't Einstein. But it actually happened. It's a freaky fact that's at the heart of quantum mechanics......"

-It is a question of fully understanding the meaning of dimension.

As far as 'returning' goes, I suspect that any 'phase shift' we enact would be a temporary circumstance, as our human system abides by a set of rules throughout our entire lifetime.

There would come a point when the cascade of chemicals our body sets in motion would start to diminish, bringing us back to this reality. Just as our bodies must have sleep, these systems would also shut down in due time.

Perhaps a bit of 'training' on our part would also allow us to return, as long as the forethought of 'escape' was planted within our brain before we attempted to journey into the beyond.

damn...gotcha lol

Great thread! I love this kind of stuff

You realize we are talking about a totally unknown dimension. Maybe once there you will not want to return, a sort of paradise; Or maybe we could be opening the door to a trap into hell where you can't escape.

Now as far as the body goes we are talking about a transcendence which far exceeds that of mystics and yogis.
True they have experimented and succeeded in transcending our reality but it is questionable whether any mystics or yogis ever transcended this universe. I know that the religiously orientated might argue that their favorite religious leaders did so transcend - but was it out of this world/universe to another? You see we want to go beyond the transcendence of what is currently known; we are trying to open new dimensions of existence heretofore unknown.

:D

As far as I understand you - the way to hop physically between dimensions in your opinion lies in generating macro quantum entangled mechanical systems?

If that is correct would you provide a better clue to where I should look at.

This is your opinion not necessarily ours. But you might want to check out:

[link to www.foxnews.com]

for recent experiments in Quantum Entanglement.

Parallel universes is not "reality"

I happen to believe that this is the case, however there is no proof. Much like aliens and bigfoot, Large assertions require large proof.

Within each individual lays already an infinite number of parallel universes. Most just don't comprehend it or know it!

Yes, I saw it in a lucid (drog-induced) dream during a surgery in 1978. It was like I knew that not just a dream, but it is real, and I believe since then.

Well, these were just thoughts.

If such dimensions exist...they are here. From the little that I think I know about string theory, we are a 'layered' universe that does not necessarily exist 'outward' in the sense of 'space' as we perceive it. With this in mind, where I am sitting could be the exact point in an alternate universe where I also exist.

That is why I thought 'phase shift.' Like light shining through a prism, the layers are revealed to all exist in that one beam of light, all having their own separate wavelenghts.

The words that I chose were for illustrative purposes, because I truly believe that in such reality shifts, one would not need to go far...only 'through.'

Now, what might cause this? There would have to be an alteration of energy fields, I suspect. Could the human mind do this on it's own? Personally, under the right set of 'circumstances' I think it would be possible.

Might the atmosphere need some alteration? I am not so certain, although I would venture to say that astronomical forces could enhance possibilities.

All of this is conjecture, but, it does give us the opportunity to think deeply. I am a fan of the human mind.

As far as coming back...I really don't know if the choice to remain in a crossed-over state is ours. If I had the ability to 'reach into' another dimension, who's to say it would actually be a physical journey? I might just stay here, while 'bringing that dimension to me. Might I be able to walk around in it, or, simply be an observer? Could two of me exist on another plane? Perhaps I could move an object, and, converse with those I see there, but, could any interaction actually effect CHANGE in my natural, own, dimension? How could it?

Now, I suppose that, in crossing over, it could very easily be 1996, say, and, I opt to accept a different paramour. Or, it is some future time, and I see myself with a particular person, to my surprise. If we were to assume that these layers are abberitions of what we call 'time' here, on this plane, all separated in a linear fashion...like that light passing through the prism, the fact remains that each layer has its own properties that warrant their remaining separated forever. The only way I could pass into, and remain, would be if I changed something in my this-dimension self that would allow me to do so.

Think of sound. When you change the frequency of a note, it becomes another note. You can manipulate it back to its original state, but, its origin remains the same. If it hits a wall and bounces off something, it could travel back to it's point of origin as a different note altogether, where it will exist for a short moment in two phases at once, before it fades.

For us to enter into a parallel world, we have to adhere to its dimensional properties, or, we cannot experience it. Our mind might be able to bring our spirit there. Our mind might be able to actually cause a physical shift, as long as our bodies are 'ripe' for the adaptation of form.

I actually was talking this in my original comments.

IF a machine is necessary to achieve such changes, though, I think the same conditions would be needed to pass into and back.

Last Edited by esotericMorgan on 02/23/2012 04:05 AM

You don't need technology, I believe. Tibetan masters are able to achive this through serious meditation.

They are not reality because you cannot perceive them. Other realities may not require physicality.

Has anyone heard of the bubble universe theory? Wouldn't those be alternate universes? We have stars.......galaxies.......universes.......multiverse which consists of an infinite number of bubble universes.

Last Edited by Space_Ace on 02/23/2012 01:29 PM

love your posts Esoteric :) just a few minutes ago I finished up watching a twilight zone I hadn't seen in years.
It was about parallel realities...this one was really strange thought it fit here.

part 1 of 3

ive certainly left my body,like many people and gone to other states,had a lot of ufo stuff too,have a tape with me and mate of something wierd in sky,hes army,so not dumb,im not sure how to get that on here,but i will do soon,but i do have my link to my photos on now,i see the lights too,and its clearly my dead face in one,i know clever peeps can easily tell if theyre fakes,so not worried about that.

-Or might there be not parallel but rather
inter-dimensional universes; Or multi-dimensions to the
apparently ordinarily perceived humanoid universe?

-The ordinary perceived human universe is very limited. Not only does it not perceive parallel and
multi-dimensional factors of the more advanced races of the
continuum but it still does not even comprehend the full
dimensionality of its current existence. We still question
the myth of human intelligence.

-Still they are capable of logic; give them more time.

just finished watching another earth twice...too find this. i always flip acoin to decide everything. that way i know exactly what i do in said parallel universe.

-Do you humans still use money? Coins?
How quaint. No wonder you can not evolve.

-Some of them gamble with currency which continues
to lose value the more they gamble with it.

-I'm returning to Vulcan; These humans are illogical.

OR could it be said that inside of 'the one' universe
there exist an infinite number of beings and/or
parallel dimensions? - A Zen view of all things
emanating from and returning to 'the one'; And all of
existence actually being a dream.