POLICE STATE! Pennsylvania REQUIRING anyone who owns ANY type of livestock OR crops using manure to fill out management plan! | |
Laura Bow (OP) User ID: 1158661 United States 02/25/2012 08:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: POLICE STATE! Pennsylvania REQUIRING anyone who owns ANY type of livestock OR crops using manure to fill out management plan! ** edited to put the manure workshop in the initial post ** Last Edited by Laura Bow on 02/25/2012 08:46 PM |
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Laura Bow (OP) User ID: 1158661 United States 02/25/2012 09:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: POLICE STATE! Pennsylvania REQUIRING anyone who owns ANY type of livestock OR crops using manure to fill out management plan! HOLY COW SHIT!!! What are they trying to do here ? Close down every farmer?? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10728385 Yep, but not only every farmer but it even someone who is a hobby gardener or just has a few chickens, a cow, or a pet pig. I heard NOTHING about this in ANY news until today when I saw about a workshop and happened to Google it! |
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Laura Bow (OP) User ID: 1158661 United States 02/25/2012 09:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: POLICE STATE! Pennsylvania REQUIRING anyone who owns ANY type of livestock OR crops using manure to fill out management plan! Can't believe this isn't getting comments. Everyone must be raiding the fridge or something. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2871355 They'll be back in a second, :D LOL maybe they're too shocked to comment. Please look at that PDF file, I was astounded at what is in it. You need to keep it in case they come knocking at the door, as well. Wow. |
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Laura Bow (OP) User ID: 1158661 United States 02/25/2012 09:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: POLICE STATE! Pennsylvania REQUIRING anyone who owns ANY type of livestock OR crops using manure to fill out management plan! Horse owners, listen up! If you are an owner or operator of a facility that houses horses (and any other livestock species), are you aware you must have a manure management plan completed for your operation? Times have changed. The 40 pounds of manure that one horse produces each day needs to be managed in ways that protect our environment and our communities. For many years, livestock operations have been aware of state regulations for storage and removal of manure, but often horse facilities have felt immune from obeying and implementing plans, for owners felt they did not fall under the title of a livestock operation. Horse owners are responsible to implement a manure management plan for their operation no matter how large or how small. [link to www.lockhaven.com] Horse poop will be the end of us :( |
Laura Bow (OP) User ID: 1158661 United States 02/25/2012 09:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: POLICE STATE! Pennsylvania REQUIRING anyone who owns ANY type of livestock OR crops using manure to fill out management plan! New Manure Management Regulations and Erosion Control Regulations related to agriculture have been established in Pennsylvania requiring all owners of farm animals and livestock to develop a plan for the safe disposal of animal waste. The requirement is meant to protect Commonwealth waters. Fortunately for residents of Wayne and Pike counties, help is on the way with two upcoming workshops hosted by the Wayne Conservation District (WCD). According to PA Department of Agriculture staff, no matter the number of animals owned, Manure Management Plans (MMP) must be developed pursuant to Chapter 91 regulations relating to water quality. [link to www.riverreporteronline.com] |
snowgoosebob User ID: 1384752 United States 02/25/2012 09:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: POLICE STATE! Pennsylvania REQUIRING anyone who owns ANY type of livestock OR crops using manure to fill out management plan! WTF! Whats Next with these gov a**holes. A manure management plan if you own a few acres of land and they see Wild Turkeys on your land? A manure management plan if you own a few acres of land and they see a Wild Deer (even one) feeding & pooping on your land? A manure management plan if you own a few acres of land and they see Migrating Canada Geese or Snowgeese (even one) feeding & pooping on your land? A manure management plan if you own a few acres of land and they see Migrating Ducks (even one) feeding & pooping on your land? A manure management plan if you own a few acres of land and they see wild rabits (even one) feeding & pooping on your land? A manure management plan if you own a few acres of land and they see any type of wild animals (even one) feeding & pooping on your land? |
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Laura Bow (OP) User ID: 1158661 United States 02/26/2012 07:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: POLICE STATE! Pennsylvania REQUIRING anyone who owns ANY type of livestock OR crops using manure to fill out management plan! HOLY COW SHIT!!! What are they trying to do here ? Close down every farmer?? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10728385 I suspect that's the plan Not just every farmer but anyone who even does it as a hobby. If you own just one chicken you're included!!! Help on the horizon for new regs; Got just one horse or chicken? Get a plan. [link to www.riverreporteronline.com] I imagine if you apply manure to your hobby garden you're included too. They want to CONTROL everything. It's disgusting. |
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Laura Bow (OP) User ID: 1158661 United States 02/26/2012 08:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: POLICE STATE! Pennsylvania REQUIRING anyone who owns ANY type of livestock OR crops using manure to fill out management plan! Calm down. They need to make sure you aren't polluting the drinking water with shit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2191646 You stupid moron. Yeah, cause having a few chickens or ONE cow is really going to pollute the earth. WhatEVER did they do before the DEP? Like I said already, it's about control. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 6321040 United States 02/26/2012 08:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: POLICE STATE! Pennsylvania REQUIRING anyone who owns ANY type of livestock OR crops using manure to fill out management plan! Calm down. They need to make sure you aren't polluting the drinking water with shit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2191646 You stupid moron. Yeah, cause having a few chickens or ONE cow is really going to pollute the earth. WhatEVER did they do before the DEP? Like I said already, it's about control. It's so they have something to blame when the hydro fracking ruins the water table... |
SnakeAirlines User ID: 1253268 United States 02/26/2012 08:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: POLICE STATE! Pennsylvania REQUIRING anyone who owns ANY type of livestock OR crops using manure to fill out management plan! D. The manure management plan written for these operations does not need to be submitted for review and approval, these plans just need to be retained on site Ohhhh, the humanity... "Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail" deanoZXT-07/20/2014 07:48 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11479040 United States 02/26/2012 09:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: POLICE STATE! Pennsylvania REQUIRING anyone who owns ANY type of livestock OR crops using manure to fill out management plan! D. The manure management plan written for these operations does not need to be submitted for review and approval, these plans just need to be retained on site Quoting: SnakeAirlines Ohhhh, the humanity... Gradual implementing goes hand to nand with devious conditioning.... This is bad....how soon they will suggest personal poop management plan? |
SnakeAirlines User ID: 1253268 United States 02/26/2012 09:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: POLICE STATE! Pennsylvania REQUIRING anyone who owns ANY type of livestock OR crops using manure to fill out management plan! D. The manure management plan written for these operations does not need to be submitted for review and approval, these plans just need to be retained on site Quoting: SnakeAirlines Ohhhh, the humanity... Gradual implementing goes hand to nand with devious conditioning.... This is bad....how soon they will suggest personal poop management plan? Every state has regulations on septic systems, and have had for decades... "Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail" deanoZXT-07/20/2014 07:48 PM |
Illuminatvs Primvs User ID: 859341 United States 02/26/2012 10:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: POLICE STATE! Pennsylvania REQUIRING anyone who owns ANY type of livestock OR crops using manure to fill out management plan! D. The manure management plan written for these operations does not need to be submitted for review and approval, these plans just need to be retained on site Quoting: SnakeAirlines Ohhhh, the humanity... Gradual implementing goes hand to nand with devious conditioning.... This is bad....how soon they will suggest personal poop management plan? Ha!! You call shit "poop"!! That's funny to me. "13013" |
Laura Bow (OP) User ID: 1158661 United States 02/26/2012 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: POLICE STATE! Pennsylvania REQUIRING anyone who owns ANY type of livestock OR crops using manure to fill out management plan! D. The manure management plan written for these operations does not need to be submitted for review and approval, these plans just need to be retained on site Quoting: SnakeAirlines Ohhhh, the humanity... Yep, meaning even if you have two chickens you need to have all these parts filled out and available if they come knocking. Section 1 - General Information. This section includes general information about the farm. This section is always required in a manure management plan. Section 2 - Mechanical Manure Application Rate and Timing. This section documents manure application rates and timing for mechanical application of manure. This section is always required in a manure management plan. Section 3 - Farm Map. This section provides a farm map identifying the location of fields, structures, environmentally sensitive areas and manure application setbacks. This section is always required in a manure management plan. Section 4 - Recordkeeping. This section provides a description of required recordkeeping and provides forms that can be used for recordkeeping. This section is always required in a manure management plan. |
SnakeAirlines User ID: 1253268 United States 02/26/2012 02:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: POLICE STATE! Pennsylvania REQUIRING anyone who owns ANY type of livestock OR crops using manure to fill out management plan! D. The manure management plan written for these operations does not need to be submitted for review and approval, these plans just need to be retained on site Quoting: SnakeAirlines Ohhhh, the humanity... Yep, meaning even if you have two chickens you need to have all these parts filled out and available if they come knocking. Section 1 - General Information. This section includes general information about the farm. This section is always required in a manure management plan. Section 2 - Mechanical Manure Application Rate and Timing. This section documents manure application rates and timing for mechanical application of manure. This section is always required in a manure management plan. Section 3 - Farm Map. This section provides a farm map identifying the location of fields, structures, environmentally sensitive areas and manure application setbacks. This section is always required in a manure management plan. Section 4 - Recordkeeping. This section provides a description of required recordkeeping and provides forms that can be used for recordkeeping. This section is always required in a manure management plan. And still no one but larger operations that were required before to have a "Nutrient Management Plan" are affected other than having to write up a "Manure Management Plan", and keep it on site... No one is coming to check unless there is a complaint... You keep records of sire and dam on your horses, but are unwilling to write up a one time 'plan' that says that you will spread manure from your two horses once a month over your 5 acre farmette, and that the shit from your half dozen laying hens will be spread on your garden twice a year... Yet again, indignation about nothing... "Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail" deanoZXT-07/20/2014 07:48 PM |
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SnakeAirlines User ID: 1253268 United States 02/26/2012 02:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: POLICE STATE! Pennsylvania REQUIRING anyone who owns ANY type of livestock OR crops using manure to fill out management plan! Good question! Not generally considered 'manure', and seldom spread on land as fertilizer, but a case could indeed be made that if Kennels are not required to have a 'plan', that someone with a few chickens should not have to have a plan either... Someone in PA sue the State! "Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail" deanoZXT-07/20/2014 07:48 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11384947 Australia 02/26/2012 03:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: POLICE STATE! Pennsylvania REQUIRING anyone who owns ANY type of livestock OR crops using manure to fill out management plan! How would you like to be down-stream of a chicken/hog/cow farmer that didn't manage manure properly and just let it runoff into the stream for you and your family or livestock to live with? |
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