I have personally seen the laws of physics broken

I really like that you posted this, OP. You don't have to prove anything to anyone but yourself - it was your own experience, and it is brave of you to share it.

I have spent a lifetime experiencing so much of this that God doesn't need to prove a thing to me, he is here for me, he has acted on my behalf in the smallest, and the biggest ways. I know he is real, I know he is powerful, and I know that his ways and his thoughts and his knowledge are so far beyond our finite minds, that to even comprehend him fully, we will have to wait until we reach our immortal state and are in his presence.

I also find your statements interesting, as I have counseled people who were questioning the existence of God, or wondering if he's really out there for them, to ask God to reveal himself to them. If they truly seek him, they will find him. I believe this with all of my heart. It may not be in some magic trick type of display as they are hoping, but he already reveals himself every day in all that he has created, and that alone brings us to accountability. If he is willing to go beyond that to show himself, then we should be very well humbled by that experience and realize the overwhelming greatness who we are dealing with.

umm you do know that god isnt an external entity right?

Hey OP - VERY glad to hear you say you are "saved" ...you are "saved" as per John 3:3...yes?

OP, I speak with respect and curiosity...and certainly without judgment when I ask how you justify asking others to seek a sign in light of these verses spoken by Jesus Himself:

Mat 16:1 One day the Pharisees and Sadducees came to test Jesus, demanding that He show them a miraculous sign from heaven to prove His authority.
Mat 16:2 He replied, "You know the saying, 'Red sky at night means fair weather tomorrow;
Mat 16:3 red sky in the morning means foul weather all day.' You know how to interpret the weather signs in the sky, but you don't know how to interpret the signs of the times!
Mat 16:4 Only an evil, adulterous generation would demand a miraculous sign, but the only sign I will give them is the sign of the prophet Jonah. " Then Jesus left them and went away.

Again, I am happy for you, but am having difficulty lining up your charge for others when it doesn't appear to line up with Scripture? What am I missing here?

External? Yes, He Is - God Is!

I totally get what you're asking.

If i may paraphrase your question, I kind of see it as 'At what point does 'ask and you shall receive' intersect with 'do not put the Lord to the test'?

In my case, I actually didn't ask for a miraculous sign. Instead, I asked for the truth to be revealed to me in whatever way He saw fit. I did not put the Lord to the test, I asked him to help me get it right. He sent a miracle but I did not demand one.

By my reckoning, there are, for example, 1.5 billion Muslims. how do I know whether they are right or not? I'm not smart enough, so i asked for clarification.

It's both an internal and external relationship.

too bad no video cam, alas.


Here's what happened. I was in a hopeless situation and God personally intervened after this prayer.

"God, you did not provide me with enough information to make an informed decision about you. There are many religions and creeds to choose from, how am I to know? How do I know whether you exist at all?

Therefore, because I can't know without your help, you cannot justifiably damn me on judgement day, unless you show me a verifiable path to the truth. Please do this for me."

After this prayer, I experienced the laws of physics being broken. It might work for you.

Same sort of thing happened to me was agnostic, said a prayer... Got an answer.
Maybe Most people who don't believe in God haven't tried to talk to him.

Yes - but the point was that He Is - not that He is just some kind of impersonal ethereal energy

too bad no video cam, alas.


"unless you show me a verifiable path to the truth. Please do this for me."

Inner Spatial vision is the blueprint, emotion is the force. Use the two correctly and anything can happen.


But you need a VERY strong emotion for exceptional miracles. Which is why miracles often happen in times of need, when emotions are high and people vision the better times.

chuckles again.

it wasn't an ultimatum; it was a request for clarification

Physics weren't broken.

too bad no video cam, alas.


Here's what happened. I was in a hopeless situation and God personally intervened after this prayer.

"God, you did not provide me with enough information to make an informed decision about you. There are many religions and creeds to choose from, how am I to know? How do I know whether you exist at all?

Therefore, because I can't know without your help, you cannot justifiably damn me on judgement day, unless you show me a verifiable path to the truth. Please do this for me."

After this prayer, I experienced the laws of physics being broken. It might work for you.

tell you what -- my experience itself is not important, nor am I. the prayer is.

so, please pray the prayer and then send me a message privately that you did so.

then i'll send you back a more detailed explanation,

my experience is not important, nor am i. the prayer is.

i'll accept your word on the honor system.





"God, you did not provide me with enough information to make an informed decision about you. There are many religions and creeds to choose from, how am I to know? How do I know whether you exist at all?

Therefore, because I can't know without your help, you cannot justifiably damn me on judgement day, unless you show me a verifiable path to the truth. Please do this for me."

tell you what -- my experience itself is not important, nor am I. the prayer is.

so, please pray the prayer and then send me a message privately that you did so.

then i'll send you back a more detailed explanation,

my experience is not important, nor am i. the prayer is.

i'll accept your word on the honor system.





"God, you did not provide me with enough information to make an informed decision about you. There are many religions and creeds to choose from, how am I to know? How do I know whether you exist at all?

Therefore, because I can't know without your help, you cannot justifiably damn me on judgement day, unless you show me a verifiable path to the truth. Please do this for me."

I prayed your prayer...we shall see what happens!

I prayed a similar prayer once.... and God showed me something that changed my life... I know exactly what you are talking about! I rarely share the experience with anyone anymore because it leads to ridicule and little else... but sometimes I'll tell someone if I feel led to do so... Either way at that moment God became very real..

OP, I am not asking you what laws of physics you experienced being broken, but rather what verifiable path to truth you were shown? What was it? Any existing religion, creed? Or something brand new?

He showed up (and then some) in a situation that made it abundantly clear that Jesus is the son of God.

But, don't take my word for it. Pray the prayer and He will show you. No words of mine are worth anything, you have to experience it for yourself.

wellif a stranger on a conspracy board that talks to god says so then it must e true

lol

liar crap go to hell creep

with a liar crap mom that raised a dolt

its like they think god likes them

lol

a demon

lol