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why cant god forgive satin

 
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satin is so smooth and luxurious. i forgive it.
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why cant the lord forgive satin . . .
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Satin is so slippery you cannot get a good grip on it, then the stains afterwards are impossible to get out.
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Satin is a cloth...just so you know.
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Trickster archetype. Some things never change but are embedded into the pattern of existence.
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so back to my question is it possible for god to forgive the devil????????
 Quoting: mariah_808


well he has to ask for it (forgivness) first, which he didnt even thought about after disobeying God command.

the only request he made to God was to be given life until Judgement Day, then he will die and be judged and sent to hell.

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The devil is not asking for it. The devil continues to dwell in evil. He continues to steal, kill, and destroy. Can God allow satan (full of evil) to enter Heaven?
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Satin will go wherever God puts him, I dont think heaven is that place. Absense of God,Hell, his own choice.
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Oh God, please place satin on my bed tonight.
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Doesn't like the feel?
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aloha all this is my first post so bear with me lol...


why cant the lord forgive satin dose he need to beg for mercy and is this possible if it is would god forgive him? he teaches to forgive 70 x 700 so i cant imagine he wouldnt forgive the rebelor,but i highly dout the devil would even ask,im sure its a shitty deal for lucifer but imo he should just reform,god made him their for he was pure and good but was corrupted by wanting power,i think that if the devil asked for mercy,all evil would cease to exist if i had a chance to present this theroy to the devil i would.im so over this world in this time it gets worse and worse.their is a god i belive this with all of my heart and soul.


so back to my question is it possible for god to forgive the devil????????
 Quoting: mariah_808


A father or mother can always forgive. A machine or a non caring or non nurturing being would need that element to be added to their personality, so it would take a new element to be added to a beings personality, the person or being to receive this would have to want this, there lies the problem, one cannot receive without asking. Other wise it would be forced an would not work.
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Because Satan doesn't repent.
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Who says He didn't offer him an 'olive branch'? Do you believe Satan, who experienced the direct embrace of God, in a perfect environment, in perfect bliss and then walked away, would accept? One so narcissistic that he believed he was above God and walked away?

Let's ask ourselves how could ANYONE actually walk away from that in such a way? That is the insane thing, no? I'm pretty sure satan had his mind made up with such a coup.
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I sleep in a bed with black silk satin sheets and pillowcases, and canadian goose down pillows.

It's "sinfully" luxurious to balance my otherwise rustic lifestyle. It probably makes the false god of Abraham vehemently jealous till he wants to scream SATAN!!!!!

But the one true god of time and space knows that the dream world where we spend a third of our lives is of supreme importance, so he tells the false political dogmas of Islam Judiasim and Christianity to go to hell.

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aloha all this is my first post so bear with me lol...


why cant the lord forgive satin dose he need to beg for mercy and is this possible if it is would god forgive him? he teaches to forgive 70 x 700 so i cant imagine he wouldnt forgive the rebelor,but i highly dout the devil would even ask,im sure its a shitty deal for lucifer but imo he should just reform,god made him their for he was pure and good but was corrupted by wanting power,i think that if the devil asked for mercy,all evil would cease to exist if i had a chance to present this theroy to the devil i would.im so over this world in this time it gets worse and worse.their is a god i belive this with all of my heart and soul.


so back to my question is it possible for god to forgive the devil????????
 Quoting: mariah_808


Its amazing how many people do not understand duality. Good cannot exist without evil. They are simply opposite sides of the same stick.

God is the totality of All!

God is both Good/Evil and Male/Female becaause God is part of everything therfore Everything is part of God.

The devil does not exist as we are made to believe as it was made up to explain the evil parts of God since people could not except that God could have an evil side. But evil as well as good is just perspective. Something maybe evil or good to one person but just the opposite to another.

Doubt it not!
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Mindfuck.
 Quoting: Vlad Tepes


OP, in all seriousness, these types of questions are dangerous. You don't need to figure it out. Concentrate,instead, on living your own life faithfully. Ask God's Holy Spirit to guide you and stay in the Word. Work out your own Salvation and let Satan work out his.

Blessings
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Yes never question the written word of God.
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Mindfuck.
 Quoting: Vlad Tepes


OP, in all seriousness, these types of questions are dangerous. You don't need to figure it out. Concentrate,instead, on living your own life faithfully. Ask God's Holy Spirit to guide you and stay in the Word. Work out your own Salvation and let Satan work out his.

Blessings
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Yes never question the written word of God.
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Yes why question anything?.. why would you want to learn more about God and the universe we live in???? This is the mindset that has held back humanity for thousands of years.
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Forgiveness is something you have to do for yourself. Some acts are unforgivable and inexcusable. And just because you forgive someone, doesn't mean you have be reconstruct the relationship. It means you choose to let anger go and focus on a more peaceful perspective in your life.
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Mindfuck.
 Quoting: Vlad Tepes


OP, in all seriousness, these types of questions are dangerous. You don't need to figure it out. Concentrate,instead, on living your own life faithfully. Ask God's Holy Spirit to guide you and stay in the Word. Work out your own Salvation and let Satan work out his.

Blessings
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1130234


Yes never question the written word of God.
 Quoting: Dr.Ricks


Yes why question anything?.. why would you want to learn more about God and the universe we live in???? This is the mindset that has held back humanity for thousands of years.
 Quoting: AAONMS 25757891


Questioning interferes with the practice of true faith. It is not a matter of questioning, but of being able to recognize when demons are supplying answers to your mind, and reject those thoughts that do not correspond with the word of God. Faith, that a complexity far greater than you can comprehend makes all apparent inconsistencies merely wrinkles in God's cloth, will enable you to ignore the answers that do not fit in with what you know.
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FLESH AND BLOOD CANNOT ENTER HEAVEN, Our physical body and blood are tainted with Satans seed of sin. Jesus Christ cleanses our soul (It is who we actually are) He cleanses our soul with His Holy God Blood. This is why our mortal body can never enter Heaven, only our Blood washed soul.

Hope this helps
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aloha all this is my first post so bear with me lol...


why cant the lord forgive satin dose he need to beg for mercy and is this possible if it is would god forgive him? he teaches to forgive 70 x 700 so i cant imagine he wouldnt forgive the rebelor,but i highly dout the devil would even ask,im sure its a shitty deal for lucifer but imo he should just reform,god made him their for he was pure and good but was corrupted by wanting power,i think that if the devil asked for mercy,all evil would cease to exist if i had a chance to present this theroy to the devil i would.im so over this world in this time it gets worse and worse.their is a god i belive this with all of my heart and soul.


so back to my question is it possible for god to forgive the devil????????
 Quoting: mariah_808


After reading all these answers, I have yet to read one that actually answers his question.

Satan decided to become equal to GOD. This can not be permitted, for there can only be one perfection. If Satan were to become equal to GOD, then this would by fact lessen GOD. This is blasphemy. Blasphemy is the only sin that can not be forgiven. Satan, by commiting blasphemy, created the sin that can not be forgiven by GOD, therefore forcing Satan and all that follow Satan to be cast into the pit of hell, where, by its very nature, is without the light of GOD, and therefore, without the right of forgiveness.
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Satan got a bum deal? He was the top angel, God's favorite angel... And that simply was not good enough for Satan. Now that he is chained to his eternal punishments, all that he can do until Christ returns is to attempt to gain souls to take with him to Hell. Every time a Christian sins, Satan runs to Christ and appeals saying, " You see!?! So and So, who you have set a place for in Heaven, just did this, that, and the other! What kind of God are you to allow this soul into Heaven, yet I am given no hope? How can you forgive them and not me"

Well Satan, you are not a MAN, and Christ did not die for your sins.

Wait for it....

BURN!!!
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Because God is a female.
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if he doesn't forgive satin, he'll have to use LINEN sheets!
 Quoting: Mordier L'eft


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Hi OP welcome , and I can relate about you spell check problem- I went through the same things when I started out around here.
OK- here's what I have heard about why God forgives man, but there is no such thing for satin--uh I mean Satan....

Satan is a "fallen angel" according to the Bible. He was a high ranking servant to the Father in Heavan for a long time. One day Satan looked at all his beauty and some sort of pride entered him, he started to think he too would ascend and be like The Most High God. He actually tried it. This thing he tried to do- to be equal to God -- it angered the Lord. In the end one third of the angels and Satan were thrown out of heaven. Because Satan is a fallen angel, the Father decided he would have a kingdom of his own. It would be the exact opposite of what our heavenly Father is. All dark, all hate, no truth, and so on. Satan took this kingdom and this is where he dwells now and where all his authority is.He is The price of darkness, the father of lies.
Due to the perfect will of God, Satan, being a fallen angel does not have any opprtunity forever to regain heaven. He knows this will never change, as do all of the fallen ones- the demons. There is no such thing as forgiveness for Satan and the demons. The reason why is because this is the eternal perfect will of the Father.

We are human and God decided out of His great love to offer us A CHOICE: to be pardoned by Him and recieve forgiveness for all sin and live with him forever, or for us to try to make peace with Gods enemy and ultimately be ruled by Satan forever. Humans can be forgiven, Fallen Angels cannot. This is the will of God and He will not change it. The bible says God is Holy- and does not change. We humans want to hope that God changes His mind but the truth is, He is perfect and He never does change.

What you bring up has really important connotations - please let me explain.....we are in a time where we think as humans we can run our planet, we can make our own rules and our own realities. We think we can do it better than the Father, so we try to make peace with Gods enemies, and we allow behaviors that infuriate Holy God. But man says he does it because he wants universal peace. We think we can become like a god on our own. This is pride and it offends the Holy, unchanging God. Because God is Holy, He is drawing His hand away from mankind and soon will take His Bride, the church in the Rapture. Once we are gone- there will be no restrainer in the world to hold Satan. He will appear to the world for who he is...an evil, proud and bloodthirsty monster. No one will negotiate a peace with Satan, we remaining on earth will sadly find out who the devil really is. No negotiations! --- he will force all to take his mark or be destroyed.
Dont feel sorry for Satan, he has no opportunity- he will be thrown into a lake of fire forever. This is an unchangable reality, The Holy God's will. It cant be ammended or changed.
Lucky for us humans, Christ saved us if we choose to accept His gift of Salavation- the sacrifice for mankinds sin--Jesus Christ.
I hope this helps you out---and please keep coming back and posting here at GLP--welcome!!

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if he doesn't forgive satin, he'll have to use LINEN sheets!
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Sorry Mariah God cannot forgive Satan and his fallen angels because they don't have the same salvation that Christians can get by believing in Jesus Christ. Plus, the angels are much greater than we are and the choice that they made to reject God is a permanent one. We have a choice and God forgives us when we repent of our sins and come all the way to Jesus Christ. The angels don't have that mercy and grace. They knew better than to follow Lucifer and Lucifer also knew that there would be no repentence in his rebellion against the Almighty God.

More will be forthcoming soon!!
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aloha all this is my first post so bear with me lol...


why cant the lord forgive satin dose he need to beg for mercy and is this possible if it is would god forgive him? he teaches to forgive 70 x 700 so i cant imagine he wouldnt forgive the rebelor,but i highly dout the devil would even ask,im sure its a shitty deal for lucifer but imo he should just reform,god made him their for he was pure and good but was corrupted by wanting power,i think that if the devil asked for mercy,all evil would cease to exist if i had a chance to present this theroy to the devil i would.im so over this world in this time it gets worse and worse.their is a god i belive this with all of my heart and soul.


so back to my question is it possible for god to forgive the devil????????
 Quoting: mariah_808


why have cotton if you can have silk
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aloha all this is my first post so bear with me lol...


why cant the lord forgive satin dose he need to beg for mercy and is this possible if it is would god forgive him? he teaches to forgive 70 x 700 so i cant imagine he wouldnt forgive the rebelor,but i highly dout the devil would even ask,im sure its a shitty deal for lucifer but imo he should just reform,god made him their for he was pure and good but was corrupted by wanting power,i think that if the devil asked for mercy,all evil would cease to exist if i had a chance to present this theroy to the devil i would.im so over this world in this time it gets worse and worse.their is a god i belive this with all of my heart and soul.


so back to my question is it possible for god to forgive the devil????????
 Quoting: mariah_808


A father or mother can always forgive. A machine or a non caring or non nurturing being would need that element to be added to their personality, so it would take a new element to be added to a beings personality, the person or being to receive this would have to want this, there lies the problem, one cannot receive without asking. Other wise it would be forced an would not work.
 Quoting: nzreva


Summarized: people with feelings can forgive. People without cannot. And since they dont have feelings, they dont know it it is like to want feelings.
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I beg forgiveness on behalf of satan, satan can just pay 10% of his salary to my church, he will be fine.





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