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It's not slavery. You can walk away anytime. Slavery is involuntary. You downplay the evil of slavery by comparing a job to it. It sounds more like you want someone to pay your freight than simply finding freedom.

Just dawned on me as im getting ready for night shift. are we nothing more than paid pieces of meat, worker ants.... im wasting away and breaking my back for green pieces of paper. i want to be free god damn it ! Dont you ?
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1185380


that's the illusion fucktard. if you don't work and earn the paper, you won't be able to afford anything, because the government claims everything their property/possesion. at least over in here in europe. you are not allowed to go and hunt your food without paying for a permission. you are not allowed to collect anything from nature without a permission.

now if that isn't slavery ... you downplay a job like it isn't slavery. only a small percentage are able to work as what they actually want but the majority hast to accept any kind of job in order to survive. every day the same bullshit for the most time of your life. what beautiful freedom ....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14843647


Just think for one second. How many people live in Europe and how much (public) natural resources is there? The point is, if everyone had a right to all of nature the game and wild plants would be gone in a matter of days. It must be regulated in order to be protected.

Some here in the US say the same thing as you...if things get bad they will just hunt deer or rabbits. When 100's of thousands of people are scavaging the land, it will soon be gone and then we all starve.
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Just dawned on me as im getting ready for night shift. are we nothing more than paid pieces of meat, worker ants.... im wasting away and breaking my back for green pieces of paper. i want to be free god damn it ! Dont you ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1466889


100% agree. I am trying to think of ways to break myself free from the grind and become a free man while still being able to feed my family.
 Quoting: Albino Rhino


I have thought about this A LOT. Honestly, I think that the Amish have it about right (sans their restrictive religion). They live off the land, they are self-sufficient, they work together building homes. They are our example, to a point, I believe. We need to start doing this, and screw the gov.

I think we need to do away with money and go to a bartering system. Money is the root of all evil, and for the longest of times, I have wished that there was no such thing. I wish that there was no government, because with it, we are apparently slaves to their wishes, not our own.

Work....all that is for is to pay for the garbage food that we can buy in the stores, material things to keep us satisfied, if only for a short time, and pay the government so that they can live their free lifestyle, like we all wish we could do. They got all the power and money, and do you think that they hate their lives? No...they live peachy, exciting lives, jetting here and there, enjoying grand vacations, having more money than they know what to do with while us, the real people in the world struggle and wish we were dead rather than going through this slavery crap.

Our work should be taking care of our own homes, our own crops, our own familes, our own lives, and then when all is done, we can also share in our bounties with others. For instance, sharing crops from gardens, or fruits from trees, services such as woodworking, or metal working, or whatever. These things are basics of life.

True life isn't sitting in front of the tv gorging on food, drinking beer, or whathaveyou. Real, true existing comes from working for yourself, and when the day is over, you feel good about it. Back in the day before all this electronic crap came into existance, life seemed more easy going, a lot less stress. These new-fangled gadgets that make our life "easier" truly aren't. In fact, they are doing the opposite and enslaving people further.

We need to get back to life, living from the earth, sharing, loving, and communicating with each other.
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This is exactly how I feel as well. Very well said & thanks for posting!
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Yes.
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Just dawned on me as im getting ready for night shift. are we nothing more than paid pieces of meat, worker ants.... im wasting away and breaking my back for green pieces of paper. i want to be free god damn it ! Dont you ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1466889


Definitely agree. Money is an illusion; it is just an agreed source of currency in the world

Paper money

ONe day this world will see another income source ; the 666 beast system of

income

then, you really will be a slave

You are just half one now
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Do you ever trade that illusion (money) for real food?

You have committed fraud then.
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Just dawned on me as im getting ready for night shift. are we nothing more than paid pieces of meat, worker ants.... im wasting away and breaking my back for green pieces of paper. i want to be free god damn it ! Dont you ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1466889


100% agree. I am trying to think of ways to break myself free from the grind and become a free man while still being able to feed my family.
 Quoting: Albino Rhino


I have thought about this A LOT. Honestly, I think that the Amish have it about right (sans their restrictive religion). They live off the land, they are self-sufficient, they work together building homes. They are our example, to a point, I believe. We need to start doing this, and screw the gov.

I think we need to do away with money and go to a bartering system. Money is the root of all evil, and for the longest of times, I have wished that there was no such thing. I wish that there was no government, because with it, we are apparently slaves to their wishes, not our own.

Work....all that is for is to pay for the garbage food that we can buy in the stores, material things to keep us satisfied, if only for a short time, and pay the government so that they can live their free lifestyle, like we all wish we could do. They got all the power and money, and do you think that they hate their lives? No...they live peachy, exciting lives, jetting here and there, enjoying grand vacations, having more money than they know what to do with while us, the real people in the world struggle and wish we were dead rather than going through this slavery crap.

Our work should be taking care of our own homes, our own crops, our own familes, our own lives, and then when all is done, we can also share in our bounties with others. For instance, sharing crops from gardens, or fruits from trees, services such as woodworking, or metal working, or whatever. These things are basics of life.

True life isn't sitting in front of the tv gorging on food, drinking beer, or whathaveyou. Real, true existing comes from working for yourself, and when the day is over, you feel good about it. Back in the day before all this electronic crap came into existance, life seemed more easy going, a lot less stress. These new-fangled gadgets that make our life "easier" truly aren't. In fact, they are doing the opposite and enslaving people further.

We need to get back to life, living from the earth, sharing, loving, and communicating with each other.
 Quoting: wildbutterfly2112


I agree with you but it's too late to go back. We're too industrialized and rely on the mass production of food. It would take decades to go back to a sustainable bartering system and most people just don't have the skills.
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Just dawned on me as im getting ready for night shift. are we nothing more than paid pieces of meat, worker ants.... im wasting away and breaking my back for green pieces of paper. i want to be free god damn it ! Dont you ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1466889


...Ah please quit and join the other 15%unemployed, I mean free people....free from what?..working?...maybe you need a career and not a job...do what you enjoy and get paid for it and you will never "work" again...or accept the 2/3 of the time you are NOT working and enjoy whatever life you have made for yourself...sounds like your problem is the 16hrs a day you are NOT working...
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What I find interesting is that no matter what the ups and downs of the economy, the average person must work a full work week (40-80) hours to support him/herself and a family.


The main reason, I believe, is that society must be kept so busy that any time off is spent recuperating and preparing the next work week, and have zero thinking time.


Food / Utility prices are always set to make sure this rhythm stays intact. Isn't that funny how most working people only just barely have enough money to pay their bills off?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8597527


You left one important item out of you expenses list. Taxes. The average peoson pays about 1/2 their income in all taxes and government fees. About 1/2 of that goes to social welfare programs, to support those that can't or won't work.

The work system could be adjusted so we could work only 25-30 hours per week, if everyone worked. One problem is, companies see 'human resources' (workers) as their biggest headache, partly because of attitudes like OP's. So they try to use as feww employees as possible. Another problem is that most of us avoid hard labor if possible. Machines are th natural answer to that problem, but machines reduce the overall need for any labor.

Society will eventually come to a better balance, just as buggy makers and wheelwrights were absorbed into other jobs when the auto age came to be.
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No, a JOB is paid slavery. Working is fine and it's a survival necessity but you have to be smart and 'work' for yourself.
If you're a wage slave you're fucked, so yes I agree in principle but we do all need to work. It's a natural law.
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Just dawned on me as im getting ready for night shift. are we nothing more than paid pieces of meat, worker ants.... im wasting away and breaking my back for green pieces of paper. i want to be free god damn it ! Dont you ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1466889


If a 100% taxation is a form of slavery then 50% taxes are half slavery. The powers that be figured out a long time ago that if people believe they are free they are happier and more productive. Like the milk and cheese commercial says, happy cows are productive cows. Voting are just the fences to corral you in and lead you to believe you are free. The lesser of 2 evils is still evil.
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ITT:
Over-grown children who don't like having to work for a living.
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bsflag Of course master wants us working hard, not for our own benefit, only for his. Employment is just about the dumbest way to earn a living.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2917913


We are reliant on the system and the corporations and Wall Street and delivery trucks for our survival. In the past people lived in tribes and in the country and self sufficientcy, Survival depended on nature not giving droughts and ones own work

Today our job relies on the ebb and flow of the corporations.

When were all crammed into the cities and the delivery truck dont come and those corporations say they are bankrupt, then what??
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Just dawned on me as im getting ready for night shift. are we nothing more than paid pieces of meat, worker ants.... im wasting away and breaking my back for green pieces of paper. i want to be free god damn it ! Dont you ?
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So being a bum is unpaid vacation ?
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It's not slavery. You can walk away anytime. Slavery is involuntary. You downplay the evil of slavery by comparing a job to it. It sounds more like you want someone to pay your freight than simply finding freedom.

Just dawned on me as im getting ready for night shift. are we nothing more than paid pieces of meat, worker ants.... im wasting away and breaking my back for green pieces of paper. i want to be free god damn it ! Dont you ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1466889

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1185380


that's the illusion fucktard. if you don't work and earn the paper, you won't be able to afford anything, because the government claims everything their property/possesion. at least over in here in europe. you are not allowed to go and hunt your food without paying for a permission. you are not allowed to collect anything from nature without a permission.

now if that isn't slavery ... you downplay a job like it isn't slavery. only a small percentage are able to work as what they actually want but the majority hast to accept any kind of job in order to survive. every day the same bullshit for the most time of your life. what beautiful freedom ....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14843647


Just think for one second. How many people live in Europe and how much (public) natural resources is there? The point is, if everyone had a right to all of nature the game and wild plants would be gone in a matter of days. It must be regulated in order to be protected.

Some here in the US say the same thing as you...if things get bad they will just hunt deer or rabbits. When 100's of thousands of people are scavaging the land, it will soon be gone and then we all starve.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2476972


Silly, in the past, thats when everyone was a rancher, or farmer. And they grew their own food and animals.

Of course with majority not having those skills and livestock and land anymore. Then your scenario would come true.
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WORK IS SLAVERY. YOU ARE CONTROLLED WHILE GETTING PAID LESS AND LESS BY THREATS OF VIOLENCE SUCH AS NO SHELTER. NO FOOD. NO WATER. IF YOU DO NOT WORK FOR THE MASTERS. TRY WALKING AWAY FROM THEIR THIRD WORLD ELITIST CONTROL. GO AHEAD TRY IT.

YOU ARE ENSLAVED!

clappa
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It's also a shared survival tactic, in its deepest intention, all work together to create a survivable world.
 Quoting: New Age Messiah


^ This, but the problem is that today we work for companies, pure business, we don't really contribuite to the 'community'.


The first goal for companies is to make profits, not to help the community. This is a completely wrong approach and we have these conflicting interests over and over.

We should be doing some work to really help our communities, to feel it. We're not happy this way, we need to surpase this system and create a new one. A system that really helps us all, that allow us to evolve as a species, not to compete with each other.

We are totally capable of doing it, we need to be educated, to understand what's better if our goal is to construct efficient societies. There's a 'status quo' that won't allow it of course. They fear changes, we all do.
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If no one worked for companies there would be little manufacturing. Imagine one person assembling a car, or building a house.

Every person's employment (labor) contributes to the pool of resources we all use, resources being products and services. If some don't contribute then other must contribute more or the pool will be reduced. We usually get payment for our contribution which we can then exchange to make withdrawals from the pool of resources.

It is a good and noble thing to give to your community. But without people working in orginazations (companies for example) we would not have many of the modern conveniences we now enjoy.

Which is better?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2476972


I was talking about the current model of companies, the ones built only for make profits. I'm not against manufacturing, it's an essential part of every modern industry. I'm against the philosophy. We should be working in colaboration, no competition. It makes no sense at all considering we're completely rational beings. Why to compete each other instead sharing and working towards a common objective, to help us all and improve our societies?

The problem is that we were educated in a way that we need to earn our money and fight every day in order to garantee our survival. That's just nonsense, stupidity. Individual perspective at extreme levels.
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No, a JOB is paid slavery. Working is fine and it's a survival necessity but you have to be smart and 'work' for yourself.
If you're a wage slave you're fucked, so yes I agree in principle but we do all need to work. It's a natural law.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14843699


We don't need to work for 'ourselves'. We live in a world with millions of others human beings around. I'd like to work with them in order to make things easier, that makes perfect sense.

We need to work, of course, but together, not against the others or because individualists objectives.

It amazes me how hard a simple concept like this is for many.
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It's not slavery. You can walk away anytime. Slavery is involuntary. You downplay the evil of slavery by comparing a job to it. It sounds more like you want someone to pay your freight than simply finding freedom.

...

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that's the illusion fucktard. if you don't work and earn the paper, you won't be able to afford anything, because the government claims everything their property/possesion. at least over in here in europe. you are not allowed to go and hunt your food without paying for a permission. you are not allowed to collect anything from nature without a permission.

now if that isn't slavery ... you downplay a job like it isn't slavery. only a small percentage are able to work as what they actually want but the majority hast to accept any kind of job in order to survive. every day the same bullshit for the most time of your life. what beautiful freedom ....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14843647


Just think for one second. How many people live in Europe and how much (public) natural resources is there? The point is, if everyone had a right to all of nature the game and wild plants would be gone in a matter of days. It must be regulated in order to be protected.

Some here in the US say the same thing as you...if things get bad they will just hunt deer or rabbits. When 100's of thousands of people are scavaging the land, it will soon be gone and then we all starve.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2476972


Silly, in the past, thats when everyone was a rancher, or farmer. And they grew their own food and animals.

Of course with majority not having those skills and livestock and land anymore. Then your scenario would come true.
 Quoting: ABADDON - APOLLYON .


You say that like it would be a cake walk to produce your ouw food. Oh, people were JUST ranchers etc. They JUST were.

If it was easier or somehow overall a better lifestyle to JUST BE a rancher etc, people would still be living that way. People migrated off of farms because city life, working in a factory was a better choice to them.

Anyway, we are living in this world, not that one. And the poster I replied to said not being allowed to take whatever we want from the land is slavery. I am saying it is a necessay evil and explained why that is so.

Silly.
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Seriously, you just thought of this...
GLP = fail nowadays
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It's also a shared survival tactic, in its deepest intention, all work together to create a survivable world.
 Quoting: New Age Messiah


^ This, but the problem is that today we work for companies, pure business, we don't really contribuite to the 'community'.


The first goal for companies is to make profits, not to help the community. This is a completely wrong approach and we have these conflicting interests over and over.

We should be doing some work to really help our communities, to feel it. We're not happy this way, we need to surpase this system and create a new one. A system that really helps us all, that allow us to evolve as a species, not to compete with each other.

We are totally capable of doing it, we need to be educated, to understand what's better if our goal is to construct efficient societies. There's a 'status quo' that won't allow it of course. They fear changes, we all do.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14796594


If no one worked for companies there would be little manufacturing. Imagine one person assembling a car, or building a house.

Every person's employment (labor) contributes to the pool of resources we all use, resources being products and services. If some don't contribute then other must contribute more or the pool will be reduced. We usually get payment for our contribution which we can then exchange to make withdrawals from the pool of resources.

It is a good and noble thing to give to your community. But without people working in orginazations (companies for example) we would not have many of the modern conveniences we now enjoy.

Which is better?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2476972


I was talking about the current model of companies, the ones built only for make profits. I'm not against manufacturing, it's an essential part of every modern industry. I'm against the philosophy. We should be working in colaboration, no competition. It makes no sense at all considering we're completely rational beings. Why to compete each other instead sharing and working towards a common objective, to help us all and improve our societies?

The problem is that we were educated in a way that we need to earn our money and fight every day in order to garantee our survival. That's just nonsense, stupidity. Individual perspective at extreme levels.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14796594


Ahh, competition. The little magic ingretient that drives us toward innovation and invention. Without competition there would be no need for one widget manufacturer to ever improve his product. He makes it, he sells it, who cares? But if you think you can make it better or cheaper you might start your own widget factory. You employees might earn a higher wage or your customers might get a better product at a lower cost.

How is that a bad thing?


If there was one food market where you live, they could charge whatever they wanted. Where else can you get food? Unless there is a regulation to control prices. Then you'd need a regulation to control every facet of the economy because you can't control one item in a vacuum. The overall economy works whan all its aspects are in sync.

You describe the beginnings of tyranny. Free market competition or eventual tyranny, your choice.
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IF YOU WANT THE TRUTH GOOGLE "BILDERBERG"

THEY ARE YOUR MASTERS
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Capitalist economic system is used to enslave the masses, not free them. Those who support it want you dependent upon it for everything. They want you dependent on the Internet for this reason. But, it goes much deeper than this. They seek to create a "hive mind", one in which the "genius of the beast" will be exploited, in an attempt to create their own future. What is this "beast"? It is the carnal spirit which directs human nature! It is also called "nature's god" by those who worship and serve it!
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give it up
you go to work so that you can afford to go to work
give it up
living doesn't cost much, especially if you are not materialistic,
who needs a 60" plasma tv to watch adverts on?
all you need is food + water to live
give it up
youll be surpirised how little money you need access to

give it up
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Here is some GOLD- your extraneous desires for pleasure drive you to earn and spend.
Give up those desires....this is the ONLY way to get out of this slavery.
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"Doll Steak ! Test Meat !" ~ Nirvana , Milk it .....
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this documentry is pretty wild END GAME
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No, a JOB is paid slavery. Working is fine and it's a survival necessity but you have to be smart and 'work' for yourself.
If you're a wage slave you're fucked, so yes I agree in principle but we do all need to work. It's a natural law.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14843699


We don't need to work for 'ourselves'. We live in a world with millions of others human beings around. I'd like to work with them in order to make things easier, that makes perfect sense.

We need to work, of course, but together, not against the others or because individualists objectives.

It amazes me how hard a simple concept like this is for many.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14796594


I want people to work for selfish reasons. That is a better guarantee they will provide the product you want/need.

Do you really think the cattle rancher braves blizzard conditions to tend his herd because he LOVES YOU? But you do get the results of his efforts when you eat the steak from the beef he raised.

Billions of people you will never meet work every day so you can have the things you need. But not because they love you, because they are exercising healthy selfishness.
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welcome to the world outside the matrix of illusion.

just because the prison bars and bricks can't be seen
doesn't mean they're not out there, somewhere, just means
the prison yard is big.

of course the more you cooporate the better your cell.
percs come your way. maybe even get bumped up to
be a guard. doesn't mean you're free, you're still
in prison only worse because prisoners have the
freedom to think the truth, . .guards and wardens
have their mind shackled and chained to the wall
somewhere down in the dungeon of the psyche.

think free.
be free.

all else is illusion.
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Just dawned on me as im getting ready for night shift. are we nothing more than paid pieces of meat, worker ants.... im wasting away and breaking my back for green pieces of paper. i want to be free god damn it ! Dont you ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1466889


And what's WORSE than that is.....we are paying for this entitlement via income tax!
Think about it.

We work to earn pretend money to live in society that we have no say in and then...give a portion of our earnings to the government so they can pay interest to the Bankers for money that isn't real.

Amazing how duped we've been and how brainwashed we've become.

Aliens are real. Once EVERYONE realizes that and that they're our real 'family' ...we will then start breaking free from people on Earth who wish to own us.
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yep were all forced to work!if we dont were homeless and skint,but by working we pay into society and its for the greater goodso....,shit,oh no,sounds alot like communism.weve all been tricked into becoming god damn commies!!!aaaaaaarrrrrrgggghh!
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that's the illusion fucktard. if you don't work and earn the paper, you won't be able to afford anything, because the government claims everything their property/possesion. at least over in here in europe. you are not allowed to go and hunt your food without paying for a permission. you are not allowed to collect anything from nature without a permission.

now if that isn't slavery ... you downplay a job like it isn't slavery. only a small percentage are able to work as what they actually want but the majority hast to accept any kind of job in order to survive. every day the same bullshit for the most time of your life. what beautiful freedom ....
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Just think for one second. How many people live in Europe and how much (public) natural resources is there? The point is, if everyone had a right to all of nature the game and wild plants would be gone in a matter of days. It must be regulated in order to be protected.

Some here in the US say the same thing as you...if things get bad they will just hunt deer or rabbits. When 100's of thousands of people are scavaging the land, it will soon be gone and then we all starve.
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Silly, in the past, thats when everyone was a rancher, or farmer. And they grew their own food and animals.

Of course with majority not having those skills and livestock and land anymore. Then your scenario would come true.
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You say that like it would be a cake walk to produce your ouw food. Oh, people were JUST ranchers etc. They JUST were.

If it was easier or somehow overall a better lifestyle to JUST BE a rancher etc, people would still be living that way. People migrated off of farms because city life, working in a factory was a better choice to them.

Anyway, we are living in this world, not that one. And the poster I replied to said not being allowed to take whatever we want from the land is slavery. I am saying it is a necessay evil and explained why that is so.

Silly.
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Im not saying it was easy, But then again, its not easy praying that your company has a profitable report and that theres no more layoffs. And you have a mortgage to pay for decades..

City life was exciting, alluring, Humans are curious creatures. Most migrated to the city cause of the decadence and excitement and getting an education.

Farm life and country life is not exciting.
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^ This, but the problem is that today we work for companies, pure business, we don't really contribuite to the 'community'.


The first goal for companies is to make profits, not to help the community. This is a completely wrong approach and we have these conflicting interests over and over.

We should be doing some work to really help our communities, to feel it. We're not happy this way, we need to surpase this system and create a new one. A system that really helps us all, that allow us to evolve as a species, not to compete with each other.

We are totally capable of doing it, we need to be educated, to understand what's better if our goal is to construct efficient societies. There's a 'status quo' that won't allow it of course. They fear changes, we all do.
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If no one worked for companies there would be little manufacturing. Imagine one person assembling a car, or building a house.

Every person's employment (labor) contributes to the pool of resources we all use, resources being products and services. If some don't contribute then other must contribute more or the pool will be reduced. We usually get payment for our contribution which we can then exchange to make withdrawals from the pool of resources.

It is a good and noble thing to give to your community. But without people working in orginazations (companies for example) we would not have many of the modern conveniences we now enjoy.

Which is better?
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I was talking about the current model of companies, the ones built only for make profits. I'm not against manufacturing, it's an essential part of every modern industry. I'm against the philosophy. We should be working in colaboration, no competition. It makes no sense at all considering we're completely rational beings. Why to compete each other instead sharing and working towards a common objective, to help us all and improve our societies?

The problem is that we were educated in a way that we need to earn our money and fight every day in order to garantee our survival. That's just nonsense, stupidity. Individual perspective at extreme levels.
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Ahh, competition. The little magic ingretient that drives us toward innovation and invention. Without competition there would be no need for one widget manufacturer to ever improve his product. He makes it, he sells it, who cares? But if you think you can make it better or cheaper you might start your own widget factory. You employees might earn a higher wage or your customers might get a better product at a lower cost.

How is that a bad thing?


If there was one food market where you live, they could charge whatever they wanted. Where else can you get food? Unless there is a regulation to control prices. Then you'd need a regulation to control every facet of the economy because you can't control one item in a vacuum. The overall economy works whan all its aspects are in sync.

You describe the beginnings of tyranny. Free market competition or eventual tyranny, your choice.
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And stress and eventual breakdown.
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No, a JOB is paid slavery. Working is fine and it's a survival necessity but you have to be smart and 'work' for yourself.
If you're a wage slave you're fucked, so yes I agree in principle but we do all need to work. It's a natural law.
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We don't need to work for 'ourselves'. We live in a world with millions of others human beings around. I'd like to work with them in order to make things easier, that makes perfect sense.

We need to work, of course, but together, not against the others or because individualists objectives.

It amazes me how hard a simple concept like this is for many.
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Well Said
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One does not "Have" to work. If you can live off the land, the Grid and have your taxes paid, then you dont have to work.
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let's back up to "have your taxes paid" and thing about the issue of SLAVERY that OP mentioned.





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