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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1405993 United States 05/09/2012 06:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's called accountability. What are you doing with the resources God has entrusted you? The answer is no. Quoting: SevenThunders I don't have a bible verse to shoot at you, but don't you think you should give when asked, regardless of the cause? Yeah right, support all the druggies and alcoholics and bums who have ZERO pride and will ask or beg for a buck . . . forget the good people down on their luck who are too proud to beg. %$#! Pride cometh before the fall. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 12253363 United States 05/09/2012 07:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First if someone asked me for a $1 how would I know what they were going to do with it? I don't run with meth addicts so my friends who might ask for a $1 wouldn't be druggies. Second it's not my place to judge. I give to guys waiting on exit ramps. But it's usually food. I will give $ if the sign says homeless vet. Sure they could be lying but that's on them. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1442220 Canada 05/09/2012 07:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, you can usually tell the tweekers from the rest of the bums. On a side note, I laughed out loud at a sign a young hitchhiker whipped out in front of the liquor store on my drive home yesterday. It read: "I won't lie, I need money for beer." Because he made me lol, I gave him a dollar. |
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goodmockingbird User ID: 13333805 United States 05/09/2012 07:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not just 'NO' but "HELL NO!" Why, oh why, would a person let a meth head get physically close enough to him to hand him anything??? Maybe most folks here have never dealt with The Walking Dead -- because that is what meth heads are. I have. As a social worker. Many of them. They are nothing but predators. All concience, all humanity is dead as a doornail. Would you hand a piece of fried chicken to a shark, or to a bear? No. You would know that you would suffer injury as a result. Because the shark or bear is simply a predator that cannot distinguish a human from a piece of meat, and take your arm off. Meth heads are no longer human in any sense of the word. We are nothing but a way to get another fix to them. I Support Our First Responders |
Borian (OP) User ID: 1139038 United States 05/10/2012 03:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My dad is the same way. He was a smoker for about 50 years and just decided one day he was going to quit. Never smoked again. I have a friend who has been trying to quit for years now, she will quit for a few months but then go back to it. I really do believe it is all in the mind. Having self respect and knowing what you want goes a long way in changing. :) Oh, how great that your father quite smoking AFTER you were grown - but he subjected you to it while you were growing up? Yeah, real self-respect. Many "parents" did that and didn't give a damn about the environment that their own children were exposed to. It is called child abuse. hahahahahahahah I never knew my father until I was about to graduate from high school. I didn't even know where he lived. I grew up with my grandparents after both my parents up and left me at the hospital after I was born. I had to write to his mother to get a letter to him saying I wanted to meet him. So no, I was never inconvenienced or harmed in any way by his smoking. :) God bless you for your concern. :) Carrie, "darling" It will get better. Life shouldn't be tuff, it should be easy. prepare for easy. If it sucks before easy, then fix that first. Then easy. |
Borian (OP) User ID: 1139038 United States 05/10/2012 03:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First if someone asked me for a $1 how would I know what they were going to do with it? Quoting: seasidedaisy I don't run with meth addicts so my friends who might ask for a $1 wouldn't be druggies. Second it's not my place to judge. I give to guys waiting on exit ramps. But it's usually food. I will give $ if the sign says homeless vet. Sure they could be lying but that's on them. sucker for it every time. |
CarrieRosie User ID: 15661808 United States 05/10/2012 04:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15767042 Oh, how great that your father quite smoking AFTER you were grown - but he subjected you to it while you were growing up? Yeah, real self-respect. Many "parents" did that and didn't give a damn about the environment that their own children were exposed to. It is called child abuse. hahahahahahahah I never knew my father until I was about to graduate from high school. I didn't even know where he lived. I grew up with my grandparents after both my parents up and left me at the hospital after I was born. I had to write to his mother to get a letter to him saying I wanted to meet him. So no, I was never inconvenienced or harmed in any way by his smoking. :) God bless you for your concern. :) Carrie, "darling" It will get better. Life shouldn't be tuff, it should be easy. prepare for easy. If it sucks before easy, then fix that first. Then easy. No worries. :) I have been blessed. I have nothing to complain about. Caroline |
CarrieRosie User ID: 15661808 United States 05/10/2012 04:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: CarrieRosie hahahahahahahah I never knew my father until I was about to graduate from high school. I didn't even know where he lived. I grew up with my grandparents after both my parents up and left me at the hospital after I was born. I had to write to his mother to get a letter to him saying I wanted to meet him. So no, I was never inconvenienced or harmed in any way by his smoking. :) God bless you for your concern. :) Carrie, "darling" It will get better. Life shouldn't be tuff, it should be easy. prepare for easy. If it sucks before easy, then fix that first. Then easy. No worries. :) I have been blessed. I have nothing to complain about. I don't know why, I have had a really odd feeling about you, as if there is something familiar about you. I know I do not know you but I feel for some reason as if I do or should. Does that make any sense? Caroline |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15718869 South Africa 05/10/2012 07:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Giving to an addict - of any kind - is tantamount to being party to a slow murder of another. In handing over money you've entered into that agreement. We're as responsible and accountable to our selves/god as much as we are to others. So if I wouldn't give money to a friend or family member who's an addict due to 'tough love', why would I think any less of an identified street addict? Life's tough enough for those who've made the addict choice, without me adding to their woes. Now giving of food is a different matter...although in my part of the world it needs to be opened first or the person begging will often try to return it to the store for cash (esp if they're an addict)or sell to other homeless/addicts. |
Borian (OP) User ID: 1139038 United States 05/10/2012 09:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Carrie, "darling" It will get better. Life shouldn't be tuff, it should be easy. prepare for easy. If it sucks before easy, then fix that first. Then easy. No worries. :) I have been blessed. I have nothing to complain about. I don't know why, I have had a really odd feeling about you, as if there is something familiar about you. I know I do not know you but I feel for some reason as if I do or should. Does that make any sense? Completely. I get the same feeling about you. I don't light off on many people, but several have been instant friends just like we have always known each other. I think it's a personality thing, or we possibly have met. Ever lived in VA, DE, MA, or TX? |
Borian (OP) User ID: 1139038 United States 05/10/2012 09:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Giving to an addict - of any kind - is tantamount to being party to a slow murder of another. In handing over money you've entered into that agreement. We're as responsible and accountable to our selves/god as much as we are to others. So if I wouldn't give money to a friend or family member who's an addict due to 'tough love', why would I think any less of an identified street addict? Life's tough enough for those who've made the addict choice, without me adding to their woes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15718869 Now giving of food is a different matter...although in my part of the world it needs to be opened first or the person begging will often try to return it to the store for cash (esp if they're an addict)or sell to other homeless/addicts. Well, that was kind of my unspoken point, what if they are actually going to use it to buy food. Is it up to you to determine that? |
Borian (OP) User ID: 1139038 United States 05/10/2012 09:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Borian I don't have a bible verse to shoot at you, but don't you think you should give when asked, regardless of the cause? I do not believe God would want us to condone or help in the destruction of another person's health. We have been commanded to love and to help the poor. Helping the poor is not giving drugs to those who cannot afford them. We are to feed the poor. But you'd be helping the old lady he would mug, if you didn't give him a buck ;) lol Believe it or not, I have considered this very issue. And again, I will say, I have never felt led to give money. I have never, to my knowledge, come across a drug addicted homeless person. If I had, I did not know. If I had, I would have prayed for guidance as to how I should help. If I were led to give money, then of course, that is what I would do. It is sad many people will be harmed due to drug use. It is a fact of life that I believe we can change. We can change it only if there are more people who cared for others and truly loved others as themselves or as their family. There is a saying, it takes a village to raise a child. The same holds true to crime and drug addiction. It takes a community to help those in need of help. I usually don't take this route, but "Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away." KJV 5:42. I usually look at the begger and hopefully tell the honest ones from the bad one. I usually do get a feeling from them. |
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weareallmakebelieve User ID: 4926169 United States 05/10/2012 10:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Giving to an addict - of any kind - is tantamount to being party to a slow murder of another. In handing over money you've entered into that agreement. We're as responsible and accountable to our selves/god as much as we are to others. So if I wouldn't give money to a friend or family member who's an addict due to 'tough love', why would I think any less of an identified street addict? Life's tough enough for those who've made the addict choice, without me adding to their woes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15718869 Now giving of food is a different matter...although in my part of the world it needs to be opened first or the person begging will often try to return it to the store for cash (esp if they're an addict)or sell to other homeless/addicts. Well, that was kind of my unspoken point, what if they are actually going to use it to buy food. Is it up to you to determine that? .. But, Borian in your OP you said.. "if you knew the person was going to use it for meth" "Thank you for, making me, feel like I am guilty, making it easy to murder your sweet memory." |
Borian (OP) User ID: 1139038 United States 05/10/2012 11:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Giving to an addict - of any kind - is tantamount to being party to a slow murder of another. In handing over money you've entered into that agreement. We're as responsible and accountable to our selves/god as much as we are to others. So if I wouldn't give money to a friend or family member who's an addict due to 'tough love', why would I think any less of an identified street addict? Life's tough enough for those who've made the addict choice, without me adding to their woes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15718869 Now giving of food is a different matter...although in my part of the world it needs to be opened first or the person begging will often try to return it to the store for cash (esp if they're an addict)or sell to other homeless/addicts. Well, that was kind of my unspoken point, what if they are actually going to use it to buy food. Is it up to you to determine that? .. But, Borian in your OP you said.. "if you knew the person was going to use it for meth" Lol, so true. Would you? |
Borian (OP) User ID: 1139038 United States 05/10/2012 11:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Giving to an addict - of any kind - is tantamount to being party to a slow murder of another. In handing over money you've entered into that agreement. We're as responsible and accountable to our selves/god as much as we are to others. So if I wouldn't give money to a friend or family member who's an addict due to 'tough love', why would I think any less of an identified street addict? Life's tough enough for those who've made the addict choice, without me adding to their woes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15718869 Now giving of food is a different matter...although in my part of the world it needs to be opened first or the person begging will often try to return it to the store for cash (esp if they're an addict)or sell to other homeless/addicts. Well, that was kind of my unspoken point, what if they are actually going to use it to buy food. Is it up to you to determine that? .. But, Borian in your OP you said.. "if you knew the person was going to use it for meth" Yes, I did say it. Any point? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4926169 United States 05/10/2012 11:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Giving to an addict - of any kind - is tantamount to being party to a slow murder of another. In handing over money you've entered into that agreement. We're as responsible and accountable to our selves/god as much as we are to others. So if I wouldn't give money to a friend or family member who's an addict due to 'tough love', why would I think any less of an identified street addict? Life's tough enough for those who've made the addict choice, without me adding to their woes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15718869 Now giving of food is a different matter...although in my part of the world it needs to be opened first or the person begging will often try to return it to the store for cash (esp if they're an addict)or sell to other homeless/addicts. Well, that was kind of my unspoken point, what if they are actually going to use it to buy food. Is it up to you to determine that? .. But, Borian in your OP you said.. "if you knew the person was going to use it for meth" Lol, so true. Would you? NO. |
weareallmakebelieve User ID: 4926169 United States 05/10/2012 11:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Giving to an addict - of any kind - is tantamount to being party to a slow murder of another. In handing over money you've entered into that agreement. We're as responsible and accountable to our selves/god as much as we are to others. So if I wouldn't give money to a friend or family member who's an addict due to 'tough love', why would I think any less of an identified street addict? Life's tough enough for those who've made the addict choice, without me adding to their woes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15718869 Now giving of food is a different matter...although in my part of the world it needs to be opened first or the person begging will often try to return it to the store for cash (esp if they're an addict)or sell to other homeless/addicts. Well, that was kind of my unspoken point, what if they are actually going to use it to buy food. Is it up to you to determine that? .. But, Borian in your OP you said.. "if you knew the person was going to use it for meth" Yes, I did say it. Any point? yes.. in some of your other posts you're speaking as if the giver doesn't know what the person would use it for, good or bad, which would be the case in a realistic situation.. but for your post you are saying it is known they would use it for meth.. and I just don't think that if you "knew" they were going to use it for drugs that there is any good reason to give them anything, other than food/water/a wake up call.. "Thank you for, making me, feel like I am guilty, making it easy to murder your sweet memory." |
Borian (OP) User ID: 1139038 United States 05/11/2012 12:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Borian Well, that was kind of my unspoken point, what if they are actually going to use it to buy food. Is it up to you to determine that? .. But, Borian in your OP you said.. "if you knew the person was going to use it for meth" Yes, I did say it. Any point? yes.. in some of your other posts you're speaking as if the giver doesn't know what the person would use it for, good or bad, which would be the case in a realistic situation.. but for your post you are saying it is known they would use it for meth.. and I just don't think that if you "knew" they were going to use it for drugs that there is any good reason to give them anything, other than food/water/a wake up call.. Honestly with me,, A GOOD place to parkk. |
CarrieRosie User ID: 15661808 United States 05/11/2012 03:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Borian Carrie, "darling" It will get better. Life shouldn't be tuff, it should be easy. prepare for easy. If it sucks before easy, then fix that first. Then easy. No worries. :) I have been blessed. I have nothing to complain about. I don't know why, I have had a really odd feeling about you, as if there is something familiar about you. I know I do not know you but I feel for some reason as if I do or should. Does that make any sense? Completely. I get the same feeling about you. I don't light off on many people, but several have been instant friends just like we have always known each other. I think it's a personality thing, or we possibly have met. Ever lived in VA, DE, MA, or TX? Nope, grew up in Kentucky but now living in Indiana. My sister lived in Fredrick, MD for a few years before moving to Australia and my mom lived in Reston, VA. Caroline |
CarrieRosie User ID: 15661808 United States 05/11/2012 10:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know why, I have had a really odd feeling about you, as if there is something familiar about you. I know I do not know you but I feel for some reason as if I do or should. Does that make any sense? Completely. I get the same feeling about you. I don't light off on many people, but several have been instant friends just like we have always known each other. I think it's a personality thing, or we possibly have met. Ever lived in VA, DE, MA, or TX? Nope, grew up in Kentucky but now living in Indiana. My sister lived in Fredrick, MD for a few years before moving to Australia and my mom lived in Reston, VA. lol I don't think we have ever met. It was just an odd feeling like I knew you or something. I think it may be a personality thing. Caroline |
Borian (OP) User ID: 1139038 United States 05/11/2012 10:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: CarrieRosie I don't know why, I have had a really odd feeling about you, as if there is something familiar about you. I know I do not know you but I feel for some reason as if I do or should. Does that make any sense? Completely. I get the same feeling about you. I don't light off on many people, but several have been instant friends just like we have always known each other. I think it's a personality thing, or we possibly have met. Ever lived in VA, DE, MA, or TX? Nope, grew up in Kentucky but now living in Indiana. My sister lived in Fredrick, MD for a few years before moving to Australia and my mom lived in Reston, VA. lol I don't think we have ever met. It was just an odd feeling like I knew you or something. I think it may be a personality thing. I think the feeling thing bounces around. We are liklely like each other. |
Borian (OP) User ID: 1139038 United States 05/14/2012 04:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have had this same reasoning with a friend of mine who has issues with my giving a dollar to those who ask for money. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15535792 It seems to me many people have some serious control issues even when it is only a dollar... My friend will say "how do your know how they will spend it? If they get alcohol or drugs?" First off it is only a dollar. Secondly, I will often see someone asking for money before they see me and I ask for guidance, and often I am guided (by the Holy Spirit) to bless the individual. I make eye contact, and often say "blessings". And more often than not am blessed by those whom I have given to. It's only a dollar, but to someone who is poor - it is often in the receiving, much more than that dollar. OneLOVE (don't forget the LOVE) This I can agree with. I'll never miss the dollar. |
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