ZETA TALK mutiny - ZT collapses! Email blast from former moderator!

nope, just looking in from the outside, can see your demons at work.

we can see your demons too; they call themselves "greys"

HEy ASTROMUT...You are the only one I trust!..

please tell me do you see NIBURU any where?
John the liberty man says more or less that 3/6 weeks his military sources are bugging-out family members of service men and women....east and south costal areas totally under water...

No, I don't see Nibiru anywhere (just looked for it last weekend as a matter of fact lol). I saw John's new video, I'd be very keen to find out who told him this. His voice sounds like he believes it himself, but I don't think his source is trustworthy; some of the timeline of the stuff he was talking about reminded me of the so-called "Skyview Team" which myself and TBar have long since exposed as liars and hoaxers.

Right. So....how did you look for PX? Did you aim your telescope toward the Sun, and use your usual very heavy filtering?....or did you view the entire "night time" sky, among all the pretty stars?

Face it, if you ever admit you have been wrong about the existence of Nibiru, I am going to church.

I went where Nibiru was said to be according to some Nibiru researchers who claim to be tracking it.

No, I already did that and disproved your stupid cult.
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Face it, your cult does not own a monopoly on Nibiru claims, nor is it even the most popular iteration of the claim. I already addressed your cult's claim and disproved it, and I do not limit myself to only addressing Zetatalk's bullshit.

This is the Zeta's my name is Catherine, yes, you got it Cathrine Zeta Bones... look into my eyes...not around the eyes into my eyes... okay now do as I say... ignore this thread.. you love Zeta's... we are coming to Earth soon... to open Zeta's pizza's... yummy.... And no there is no dead dog in our pizza's they have cheese zapped with lasers for that well cooked taste... Zeta's fart sulfuric acid so be nice to us... or we will let one rip.... farewell see you soon..... re:Cathy Zeta Bones

Hey ASTROMUT..are they talking about you... the cheek of it!... [link to www.youtube.com]

Well, Astro is, as usual, pissing off the right people...

Hi Volar,

you must update the database of your GoTo scope - if it's outdated shure you can't find it.

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Aiming our telescopes toward the Sun, using our usual very heavy filtering is fine - as Alberto showed in his "Second Sun" photos at the Poleshit.ning: [link to poleshift.ning.com]

Conclusion:
Either you are a liar, by tellin you can not see the "Second Sun" with a Solar filter
or Alberto is a liar, by telling he made the photo of the "Second Sun" using a Mylar solar filter.



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Link to John's new video please? ???

A Mylar solar filter, I'm sure, does not choke off as much of the Sun's rays as a filter, like say, one that attaches to a large telescope. The one Astromut uses does not allow any rays whats-so-ever, for viewing ANY entity pass the Sun's edge. These filters lose a lot of viewing efficiency, compared to a lighter filter. In fact, Astromut does not really care what he uses, just as long as it supports his view about Planet X.

The best advice is to not use any magnification at all. Instead, use a camera, with a very small aperture, along with a filter that is just strong enough to cut the glare of the Sun. If there is any reasonable chance of taking a photo of Planet X, this would be it. Anything else is an overkill, and anyone who calls himself a "scientist" should know this..

Wrong. Mylar solar filters ARE used on large telescopes. It's the same thing genius!

You're lying again, I already proved it can see Venus just fine, even with the solar filter on, you know this already since I already showed you.
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Well, they're looking for Planet X in Gemini when it is actually in Virgo...

Got an answer for this, Volar?

Listen up you HATTERS...
ASTRONUT is a person of integrity and if he says NIBIRU is not on site(yet or otherwise) I put my family's safety on his message...So PISSOFF,,,

Thank you ASTRO for your response to my questions..
So I conclude that the liberty MAN may have another agenda
like, listen to my radio..., buy my product for prepping...
spudding fear for some other reason....
WE WILL SOON KNOW "who is whom"...And I stand on my position, that ASTRONUT "ROCKS"...

and I trust that he will tell "if and when" something like a "a celestial body" is approaching...and we need to take cover...

Wrong
There are different Brands but unly two types of Mylar foil - the lighter one is used for photographic purpose.
Since Alberto made a photo of the "Second Sun" with a Mylar foil, you are a liar (unless you admit, that Alberto faked the photo).




Alberto zoomed in on the sun -- what is this? Right: magnification.
Thus you are a liar.




So when you need contact lenses to correct your eye sight, you tell the optician to blacken it and leave only two mm clear in the center - because this gives the best sight and anything else is an overkill.
Again you are a stupid liar.



Once again: Alberto made a photo of the "Second Sun" with a Mylar foil, you are a liar (unless you admit, that Alberto faked the photo).


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Yes, I do. Venus was the closest to Earth than it had ever been, when the photo was taken....just under 26 million miles from Earth. Also, although very heavy filtering was used to cut out the glare of the Sun, Venus was still near the edge of the Sun, and therefore was faintly visible. If it had been a little further out from the Sun, there would be no way it could have been seen, with the equipment he used. In fact, it was the only Planet that could be seen in daylight hours, unless, of course, some other Planet "transited" the Sun.

Your deceiving Astromut will never tell you this....will he? You really have to watch our for this guy....He is extremely biased.

Below is some information I copied from another site explaining Venus's distance from Earth, and why it can occasionally be seen in daylight hours when no other Planet can.

“Since both Venus and Earth are on elliptical orbits, even this opposition point can change. Some oppositions are closer than others. The closest possible opposition between Earth and Venus is 38 million kilometers (23.7 million miles). No planet gets closer to Earth than Venus.

And for the most distant point, unfortunately, Venus will be invisible to Earth since it will be lost in the glare of the Sun. But at that point, when it's on the opposite side of the Solar System, Venus can be 261 million km (162 million miles) away.

It's this huge difference, between the planet's minimum and maximum distance which helps explain why Venus can be so bright in the sky.”

No it wasn't. The Venus transit still had yet to happen. Venus was not the closest to earth it had ever been. Besides, this is not a valid excuse; you claimed my telescope could not show anything beyond the edge of the sun with the solar filter on. You lied, you knew that was untrue. You're not actually addressing the contradiction.

You claimed it could not show anything beyond the edge of the sun, now you're claiming it can. You lied. Furthermore, Venus was still several degrees from the sun at that time.

Wrong.

You claimed nothing could be seen other than the sun. You lied. Meanwhile, your cult's stupid technique of filtering a camera phone with a floppy disk is not even capable of revealing Venus in broad daylight like I did.

Tell people what? Lies? That's what you're telling them, and you're right, I won't tell you that.

You?....A scientist? Frankly, you would make a very good "car salesman", since you only want to describe the points, that sell. There is always two sides to every story, and your only wanting to defend your one sided views is not all that scientifically rational.

You are looking more, and more like a "paid shill" disguised like a "troll", who will NEVER compromise a given point. And....I do not feel bad about saying that, since I have proven you love to ridicule, when given the opportunity.

Yes, I am. I've been published in peer-reviewed scientific journals, have you?

I'm just explaining the truth of the matter, you lied, that's all there is to it.

And you look more and more like a liar, because you are one. Therefore, I don't give a damn what you think of me.

Hi Volar,

stop with your sermonic gibble gabble!


You say it's not possible to make a photo of the "Second Sun" with a Mylar sun filter - Alberto did as you can see here: [link to poleshift.ning.com]

Simple question:
Who is the liar? You or Alberto?


I prefere a simple answer like "me" or "Alberto"



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lol.... I think we all know that Volar will once again ignore the questions.

Why? Because he cannot contradict FACTS, at least he didn't brought up any solid arguments as yet..

People like Nancy or Volar are predictable.... they think in circles and when confronted with the truth they throw insults or come up with precast opinions or some other BS, i.e. do anything but adress the questions....


BTW:

What do you think of the venus transite? Was it as predicted? Was it wrong?

lol! lemme guess... this post is invisible and you didn't read it at all, did you?

Coward! And this is not a precast opinion but a matter of FACT since you ignore all these simple questions.

Incapable of figuring out matters for yourself, the same "illness" the Ningsters share and that I shared too in the past.

Never said that. Why don't you try, and find my statement, concerning that fact.

Here it is, just one day ago - beginning Alzheimer's disease or senile dementia?


Thus again:
You say it's not possible to make a photo of the "Second Sun" with a Mylar sun filter - Alberto did as you can see here: [link to poleshift.ning.com]

Simple question:
Who is the liar? You or Alberto?
Option three: You and Alberto

I prefere a simple answer like "me", "Alberto" or both of us.



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Last Edited by Hydra on 07/13/2012 02:08 PM

Another update, and he quotes "When Prophecy Fails" too.

[link to docs.google.com]

Great post.

I never said Alberto's photo was not authentic. As far as I am concerned, he used a lighter Mylar filter, attached to a small camera. Adding a "telescope" would have required a heavier filter, like the one Astromut used, and would have been useless. If you have contradicting evidence, to this fact, I would be happy to hear it.

And again Volars sermonic gibble gabble!


OK - then you are the liar.



Have you been with him when he took the photo?
No - Then you are the liar.



Can't you read? (Apparently you suffer not only from Alzheimer's disease but also grapho-legasthenia)
Once more: The lighter Mylar is for photographic purpose.



Did you stand beside him when he took the photos, watching what filter he used?
No - Then you are the liar.



Oh, Volar, I did - look through Poleshit-Nancys database of the "Second Sun" photos.
One day I trigger the bomb, enrolling the fakerys step by step.


In contrast to you - some time after the "Deep Black Lie" and other non-events - I bought a scope and did something usefull with it.


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LOL. Volar, you should just answer the fucking questions.

Astro, do you know of the app called SkySafari Pro? It's a 40 dollar app, but it's freaking amazing. I can give it to you for free if you'd like. You can even use the app to control your telescope. It's quite proffesional.

I had it for my ipod back when I had one, absolutely loved it. Best mobile astronomy app out there, bar none. I've never had the chance to try the desktop version, but it looks very nice. I wanted to get it for my droid, but the system requirements are a bit too steep. If you can give it to me for free in a legal manner that'd be awesome.