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Anonymous Coward User ID: 15397652 United States 06/19/2012 01:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Microsoft - now run by j's (ballmer) Facebook - zuckerberg twiiter - can't remember his name Google - brin and page Linked in - hoffman Oracle - Ellison Yahoo - as of last week, yep Amazon-bezos Face.com (facial recognition, bought by FB today) - Hirsch Need I go on? "By way of deception, thou shalt do war". |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 991715 United States 06/19/2012 01:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Steganography has been around for about a decade now. Here's some addotional on what you mentioned: [link to m.computing.net] I'm informed and thereon believe that encoding internet viruses has become so pervasive in the recent 3-years with unpublicized instances of legitimate mass exchanges with Hewlett-Packard and Compaq computers was infiltrated by malicious code written into advertising vendors that HP brought onboard in their Microsoft operating software that disabled 'laptop battery functions' and 'LCD backlights' that cost worldwide consumer repair costs to skyrocket. Guess whom stood to profit by selling more laptop batteries and laptops because of bad parts that curiously went bad just after OEM warrantees expired? And now you know more of the rest of the story from a different angle where public consumers have to spend more of their hard earned income to make corporate get even bigger. And nobody is going to do a damn thing about that in our best interests either. You all, by now, should know 'why' because the Enterprise must be "sustained." "Just another real good 'business decision." - George Carlin I rest my case. - Re |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 8000135 United States 06/19/2012 01:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For those of you GLpers that don't know what code is, it can be written by anyone, and something that is open source is even MORE prone to corruption by companies that can leverage it in their own proprietary way. When was the last time you've seen mac osx code released in its entirety? Or even partially? You guys are smarter than this.... I HOPE. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17987011 Canada 06/19/2012 01:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 428255 Bulgaria 06/19/2012 01:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For those of you GLpers that don't know what code is, it can be written by anyone, and something that is open source is even MORE prone to corruption by companies that can leverage it in their own proprietary way. When was the last time you've seen mac osx code released in its entirety? Or even partially? You guys are smarter than this.... I HOPE. Yea not to mention sites and ISPs can't be trusted either so there's no security unless you just go offline |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 991715 United States 06/19/2012 02:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In the case of "Google" you probably don't know that the U.S. National Security Agency ( NSA ) made a public-private partnership with a billionaire named Thomas J. Perkins who put Google on the map in the first place, however the 'real secret scandal' about Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers ( KPCB ) is that Tom Perkins traded high-technology secrets out-of In-Q-Tel - the high-tech venture capital arm of the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency ( CIA ) - to a group of People's Republic of China ( PRC ) spies operating out-of a trading desk in Hong Kong ( HK ) run by an Israeli dual national named Arie Blumenfeld who ran POLARIS out-of Syosset, New York. The outcome came to a head in November 2007 when the CIA turned Blumenfeld who enlisted the services of three ( 3 ) men ( Thomas Sawyer of Utah, Craig Leonard Hubner of Australia, and another man in the UK ) the latter of whom was to meet Perkins for lunch to discuss disposing-of Perkins $250-million 'carbon fiber high-tech sailing yacht' named, the "Maltese Falcon." I was an unsuspecting pawn who was personally thanked by Perkins for tipping him off whereby he cancelled his meeting where he was about to become an embarrassment. Little did I realize 'then', that the CIA sent the fellow from the UK in on Perkins - all under the ruse of the "Knights of Malta" ( O.S.J. ). Sheesh! - RE |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 991715 United States 06/19/2012 02:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And, yes, I will probably be killed for releasing this information but they better hurry on over because I die in October of this year anyway. Quite frankly, I don't give a damn. Consider the post a 'dying declaration' because when word of this reaches certain parties involved there'll be need of more ice water in hell for even more new residents down below. - RE |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8000135 United States 06/19/2012 02:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In the case of "Google" you probably don't know that the U.S. National Security Agency ( NSA ) made a public-private partnership with a billionaire named Thomas J. Perkins who put Google on the map in the first place, however the 'real secret scandal' about Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers ( KPCB ) is that Tom Perkins traded high-technology secrets out-of In-Q-Tel - the high-tech venture capital arm of the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency ( CIA ) - to a group of People's Republic of China ( PRC ) spies operating out-of a trading desk in Hong Kong ( HK ) run by an Israeli dual national named Arie Blumenfeld who ran POLARIS out-of Syosset, New York. The outcome came to a head in November 2007 when the CIA turned Blumenfeld who enlisted the services of three ( 3 ) men ( Thomas Sawyer of Utah, Craig Leonard Hubner of Australia, and another man in the UK ) the latter of whom was to meet Perkins for lunch to discuss disposing-of Perkins $250-million 'carbon fiber high-tech sailing yacht' named, the "Maltese Falcon." I was an unsuspecting pawn who was personally thanked by Perkins for tipping him off whereby he cancelled his meeting where he was about to become an embarrassment. Little did I realize 'then', that the CIA sent the fellow from the UK in on Perkins - all under the ruse of the "Knights of Malta" ( O.S.J. ). Sheesh! - RE That ain't fake. ^^ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5758456 United States 06/19/2012 02:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Multi-platform, quality control, real-time updates? The hallmarks of quality developers... I think someone would have noticed them at Microsoft and been highly suspicious :). I only half jest. MS no doubt place backdoors, but these aren't them. They are specificly targeted deployments of code to chosen machines. They are not viruses or require security flaws, don't believe everything the anti-virus say, they have a solutiom to sell you remember. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18172162 United States 06/19/2012 02:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A leading security researcher has suggested Microsoft's core Windows and application development programming teams have been infiltrated by covert programmer/operatives from U.S. intelligence agencies. Quoting: Mr Martin If it were true it would be another exciting twist to the stories of international espionage, sabotage and murder that surround Stuxnet, Duqu and Flame, the most successful cyberwar weapons deployed so far, with the possible exception of Windows itself. Nevertheless, according to Mikko Hypponen, chief research officer of antivirus and security software vendor F-Secure, the scenario that would make it simplest for programmers employed by U.S. intelligence agencies to create the Stuxnet, Duqu and Flame viruses and compromise Microsoft protocols to the extent they could disguise downloads to Flame as patches through Windows Update is that Microsoft has been infiltrated by members of the U.S. intelligence community. Having programmers, spies and spy-supervisors from the NSA, CIA or other secret government agencies infiltrate Microsoft in order to turn its technology to their own evil uses (rather than Microsoft's) is the kind of premise that would get any writer thrown out of a movie producer's office for pitching an idea that would put the audience to sleep halfway through the first act. Read More: [link to www.itworld.com] lol love your avatar! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18172162 United States 06/19/2012 02:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And, yes, I will probably be killed for releasing this information but they better hurry on over because I die in October of this year anyway. Quoting: RE Quite frankly, I don't give a damn. Consider the post a 'dying declaration' because when word of this reaches certain parties involved there'll be need of more ice water in hell for even more new residents down below. - RE LOLOLOL and yer not alone in this!!!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18172162 United States 06/19/2012 02:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For those of you GLpers that don't know what code is, it can be written by anyone, and something that is open source is even MORE prone to corruption by companies that can leverage it in their own proprietary way. When was the last time you've seen mac osx code released in its entirety? Or even partially? You guys are smarter than this.... I HOPE. Yea not to mention sites and ISPs can't be trusted either so there's no security unless you just go offline when I go offline in the virtual world I'll be coming online in reality like a big dog |
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CowgirlK User ID: 16349636 United States 06/19/2012 03:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is NOT news. Quoting: IJumpInIt 11511435 Go back to Windows NT in the late 1990's.. a programmer found a piece of code which had in its comment section refering to 'NSA' and 'Cryptographic Key'. With that 'Key' then the NSA and of course Microsoft, would have full access to any Windows NT computer. Ever wonder one of the great benefits of moving off the Win 9x codebase to that of Win NT? For those who do not know, Windows NT was the base for Win2000, which then merged with the Win9x codebase to form WinXP. Then Vista was an outgrowth of WinXP... and now Win7. So all incorporate the NSA and any other keys Microsoft allows. This has gone on for 15 years and just now this is news? Boy the younger generation sure doesn't know history do they. Thank you Libtard thinking. Thank you for the trip down memory lane. No pun intended, of course. :) Remember....gopher, pine, kermit, telnet, ftp, who, and dialing into mud rooms? I miss the good old days! I still have a couple of the old "internet yellow pages" books. LOL |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2889215 Australia 06/19/2012 03:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
IRQ_1 User ID: 1157608 United States 06/19/2012 03:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All other factors remaining equal, the more complex the OS the easier it is to corrupt. Jack of all trades master of none "shall not be infringed." BLUE RIBBON AWARNESS FOR MENS' HEALTH Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent. --ISAAC ASIMOV I never 'Ad hominem' I don't need to. The Constitution means everything or nothing. You can't have both. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2889215 Australia 06/19/2012 03:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is NOT news. Quoting: IJumpInIt 11511435 Go back to Windows NT in the late 1990's.. a programmer found a piece of code which had in its comment section refering to 'NSA' and 'Cryptographic Key'. With that 'Key' then the NSA and of course Microsoft, would have full access to any Windows NT computer. Ever wonder one of the great benefits of moving off the Win 9x codebase to that of Win NT? For those who do not know, Windows NT was the base for Win2000, which then merged with the Win9x codebase to form WinXP. Then Vista was an outgrowth of WinXP... and now Win7. So all incorporate the NSA and any other keys Microsoft allows. This has gone on for 15 years and just now this is news? Boy the younger generation sure doesn't know history do they. Thank you Libtard thinking. Thank you for the trip down memory lane. No pun intended, of course. :) Remember....gopher, pine, kermit, telnet, ftp, who, and dialing into mud rooms? I miss the good old days! I still have a couple of the old "internet yellow pages" books. LOL Win XP is still the best in my opinion, too bad Windows 3.1 is gone:) Updates are pretty useless as well - my laptop with Vista is always telling me to update 'security related features' and such - makes me wonder why the biggest Operating System on earth is so popular when they need to update their shitty product every other day - no computer games ever need patching or updating as much as Windows itself. |
reitze User ID: 7276302 United States 06/19/2012 03:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So how do i keep all my dirty nasty porn safe? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2889215 Oh the humanity of it all!!! Nobody gives a fuck about your porn unless you influence people. The higher your klout score or better your job the more 'they' take interest. Giving haters BS? well ok - but calling out the real criminals of 911/mosaud/CIA/NSA/NRO/DOD/... oh I'd better... - unless the TRUTH is worth more than my life. Living under a bridge? "They" can turn off your voice while using every device with a microphone to 'hear you' and hastle you anythime it profits them. But of course that's not enough for TPTB... the Euro crash followed by the dollar and BRICs crashes will open the 666 doors. Then 'they' just activate the poision in the chip - or the assassin trackers to do it. Dare to dream |
IRQ_1 User ID: 1157608 United States 06/19/2012 03:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is NOT news. Quoting: IJumpInIt 11511435 Go back to Windows NT in the late 1990's.. a programmer found a piece of code which had in its comment section refering to 'NSA' and 'Cryptographic Key'. With that 'Key' then the NSA and of course Microsoft, would have full access to any Windows NT computer. Ever wonder one of the great benefits of moving off the Win 9x codebase to that of Win NT? For those who do not know, Windows NT was the base for Win2000, which then merged with the Win9x codebase to form WinXP. Then Vista was an outgrowth of WinXP... and now Win7. So all incorporate the NSA and any other keys Microsoft allows. This has gone on for 15 years and just now this is news? Boy the younger generation sure doesn't know history do they. Thank you Libtard thinking. Thank you for the trip down memory lane. No pun intended, of course. :) Remember....gopher, pine, kermit, telnet, ftp, who, and dialing into mud rooms? I miss the good old days! I still have a couple of the old "internet yellow pages" books. LOL Win XP is still the best in my opinion, too bad Windows 3.1 is gone:) Updates are pretty useless as well - my laptop with Vista is always telling me to update 'security related features' and such - makes me wonder why the biggest Operating System on earth is so popular when they need to update their shitty product every other day - no computer games ever need patching or updating as much as Windows itself. This wasn't an issue till RAM and HDD storage became cheap. It used to be called "bloatware". Now there's no real incentive to write simple and bullet-proof code anymore. Why bother? Just slap together a new arrangement of older objects in a new way while ignoring the underlying code that makes up those objects. Jack of all trades master of none "shall not be infringed." BLUE RIBBON AWARNESS FOR MENS' HEALTH Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent. --ISAAC ASIMOV I never 'Ad hominem' I don't need to. The Constitution means everything or nothing. You can't have both. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5393714 New Zealand 06/19/2012 04:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is NOT news. Quoting: IJumpInIt 11511435 Go back to Windows NT in the late 1990's.. a programmer found a piece of code which had in its comment section refering to 'NSA' and 'Cryptographic Key'. With that 'Key' then the NSA and of course Microsoft, would have full access to any Windows NT computer. Ever wonder one of the great benefits of moving off the Win 9x codebase to that of Win NT? For those who do not know, Windows NT was the base for Win2000, which then merged with the Win9x codebase to form WinXP. Then Vista was an outgrowth of WinXP... and now Win7. So all incorporate the NSA and any other keys Microsoft allows. This has gone on for 15 years and just now this is news? Boy the younger generation sure doesn't know history do they. Thank you Libtard thinking. Thank you for the trip down memory lane. No pun intended, of course. :) Remember....gopher, pine, kermit, telnet, ftp, who, and dialing into mud rooms? I miss the good old days! I still have a couple of the old "internet yellow pages" books. LOL Win XP is still the best in my opinion, too bad Windows 3.1 is gone:) Updates are pretty useless as well - my laptop with Vista is always telling me to update 'security related features' and such - makes me wonder why the biggest Operating System on earth is so popular when they need to update their shitty product every other day - no computer games ever need patching or updating as much as Windows itself. Yeah, because coding an OS that can run on ANY hardware combo avaliable today or hardware that has not even been built yet will be bug free right. Install Linux if your paranoid about MS, Im sure open source OS's have no bugs and cant have its code changed by TPTB. |
CowgirlK User ID: 16349636 United States 06/19/2012 04:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is NOT news. Quoting: IJumpInIt 11511435 Go back to Windows NT in the late 1990's.. a programmer found a piece of code which had in its comment section refering to 'NSA' and 'Cryptographic Key'. With that 'Key' then the NSA and of course Microsoft, would have full access to any Windows NT computer. Ever wonder one of the great benefits of moving off the Win 9x codebase to that of Win NT? For those who do not know, Windows NT was the base for Win2000, which then merged with the Win9x codebase to form WinXP. Then Vista was an outgrowth of WinXP... and now Win7. So all incorporate the NSA and any other keys Microsoft allows. This has gone on for 15 years and just now this is news? Boy the younger generation sure doesn't know history do they. Thank you Libtard thinking. Thank you for the trip down memory lane. No pun intended, of course. :) Remember....gopher, pine, kermit, telnet, ftp, who, and dialing into mud rooms? I miss the good old days! I still have a couple of the old "internet yellow pages" books. LOL Win XP is still the best in my opinion, too bad Windows 3.1 is gone:) Updates are pretty useless as well - my laptop with Vista is always telling me to update 'security related features' and such - makes me wonder why the biggest Operating System on earth is so popular when they need to update their shitty product every other day - no computer games ever need patching or updating as much as Windows itself. Don't laugh....I tweaked win ME until it was the best OS ever! Lived with XP for many years and eventually made it do every thing I wanted. Then they forced win7 on us ..which I HATE with a passion. I wish we go back to the DOS days..before point and click...you know...when you had to have half a brain to operate a computer!!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5393714 New Zealand 06/19/2012 04:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Remember....gopher, pine, kermit, telnet, ftp, who, and dialing into mud rooms? I miss the good old days! I still have a couple of the old "internet yellow pages" books. LOL Win XP is still the best in my opinion, too bad Windows 3.1 is gone:) Updates are pretty useless as well - my laptop with Vista is always telling me to update 'security related features' and such - makes me wonder why the biggest Operating System on earth is so popular when they need to update their shitty product every other day - no computer games ever need patching or updating as much as Windows itself. Don't laugh....I tweaked win ME until it was the best OS ever! Lived with XP for many years and eventually made it do every thing I wanted. Then they forced win7 on us ..which I HATE with a passion. I wish we go back to the DOS days..before point and click...you know...when you had to have half a brain to operate a computer!!! Why dont you? just install DOS 6.3 done, |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18069435 Canada 06/19/2012 04:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
IRQ_1 User ID: 1157608 United States 06/19/2012 04:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Remember....gopher, pine, kermit, telnet, ftp, who, and dialing into mud rooms? I miss the good old days! I still have a couple of the old "internet yellow pages" books. LOL Win XP is still the best in my opinion, too bad Windows 3.1 is gone:) Updates are pretty useless as well - my laptop with Vista is always telling me to update 'security related features' and such - makes me wonder why the biggest Operating System on earth is so popular when they need to update their shitty product every other day - no computer games ever need patching or updating as much as Windows itself. Don't laugh....I tweaked win ME until it was the best OS ever! Lived with XP for many years and eventually made it do every thing I wanted. Then they forced win7 on us ..which I HATE with a passion. I wish we go back to the DOS days..before point and click...you know...when you had to have half a brain to operate a computer!!! Above quote > lpt1 I wouldn't go back that far back :chuckle; but at some point the PTB realized programming and ADD would meet in the middle certainly? My point is that as people work on the building blocks of old, these blocks have holes in them by their nature but the modern coders aren't trained to and can't see them. Jack of all trades master of none "shall not be infringed." BLUE RIBBON AWARNESS FOR MENS' HEALTH Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent. --ISAAC ASIMOV I never 'Ad hominem' I don't need to. The Constitution means everything or nothing. You can't have both. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17500460 Australia 06/19/2012 04:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 428255 Bulgaria 06/19/2012 04:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is highly unlikely considering how many people in the world actually work with and see Microsoft's source code. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17500460 I don't think that's true, they can probably see only a part of it - the one they need to develop the software. Plus, it's a huge code anyway so even if you have full access, is it even possible to find something suspicious if you don't already know where to search for it? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5393714 New Zealand 06/19/2012 04:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is highly unlikely considering how many people in the world actually work with and see Microsoft's source code. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17500460 I don't think that's true, they can probably see only a part of it - the one they need to develop the software. Plus, it's a huge code anyway so even if you have full access, is it even possible to find something suspicious if you don't already know where to search for it? I'm sure MS use peer code reviews like every other programming company, also it has to get past the testing teams too. And why would they bother when there is no need, If you have an IP address regardless of what OS you have you have an entry point. Hacking is NOT platform dependant. |
IRQ_1 User ID: 1157608 United States 06/19/2012 04:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is highly unlikely considering how many people in the world actually work with and see Microsoft's source code. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17500460 You've apparently never had to submit your blood to access the MSDN. Jack of all trades master of none "shall not be infringed." BLUE RIBBON AWARNESS FOR MENS' HEALTH Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent. --ISAAC ASIMOV I never 'Ad hominem' I don't need to. The Constitution means everything or nothing. You can't have both. |