Ron Paul Admits He's On Social Security, Even Though He Believes It's Unconstitutional | |
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ISLANDIA User ID: 1483387 United States 06/22/2012 12:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | (OP) Richard He also said he utilizes the federal reserve banking system and other forms of Govt like medicare which he opposes and would like to see the free market system take over control of. So if yourally want to know the truth read the entire article or watch it on u tube. He said he has been paying into the sytem for years, belives the system is broke and needs to be fixed. I guess Russia treats you much better |
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RP2012 User ID: 14627334 Turkey 06/22/2012 12:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If your money gets stolen from you, and then you're offered a part of it back, you wouldn't take it? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9112604 Full retard OP Nope, OP loves being a slave. But anyway, as for his stance on SS, he has said it needs to be REFORMED so that the money we have already promised soo many people, will be there when the time comes. So actually since the government has promised him this money, it is not hypocritical at all. Good try tho. |
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Ahura Mazda User ID: 12113086 United States 06/22/2012 12:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Instead of paying 7% of one’s income (including employers contribution) into Social Security and hoping to get back $1,200 per month, an average man (or woman) could view private option as an attractive alternative. He could invest say $200 per month in a mutual fund over 45 years at a conservative 8% per year return and have more than $1 million dollar saved. Beginning at age 65, this $1 million (invested at just 4% return) could pay him an income of $3,500 per month for 35 years (assumes he lives to be 100!) and he would still have more than $1 million to leave his heirs. That beats Social Security. Ron Paul is using S.S. because he paid into it! He wants the younger generation to be able to opt out because by the time it's our turn to collect, there won't be jack shit left. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1533318 United States 06/22/2012 12:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If your money gets stolen from you, and then you're offered a part of it back, you wouldn't take it? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9112604 Full retard OP Nope, OP loves being a slave. But anyway, as for his stance on SS, he has said it needs to be REFORMED so that the money we have already promised soo many people, will be there when the time comes. So actually since the government has promised him this money, it is not hypocritical at all. Good try tho. Just another millionaire that trashes the system while at the same time, sucking off of it. That's hypocrisy at it's finest. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 554016 United States 06/22/2012 12:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Instead of paying 7% of one’s income (including employers contribution) into Social Security and hoping to get back $1,200 per month, an average man (or woman) could view private option as an attractive alternative.He could invest say $200 per month in a mutual fund over 45 years at a conservative 8% per year return and have more than $1 million dollar saved. Quoting: Ahura Mazda Beginning at age 65, this $1 million (invested at just 4% return) could pay him an income of $3,500 per month for 35 years (assumes he lives to be 100!) and he would still have more than $1 million to leave his heirs. That beats Social Security. Ron Paul is using S.S. because he paid into it! He wants the younger generation to be able to opt out because by the time it's our turn to collect, there won't be jack shit left. He could if SS wasnt required by law. |
SunnyDaze User ID: 1075367 Puerto Rico 06/22/2012 12:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | well, he paid in, so he deserves to get his money back ... what he is complaining about is how it was "invested" ... if it had been invested in gold ... there wouldn't be a SS issue right now, but they invested it in the Stock Market and use it to manipulate it ... and that's what RP wants to get rid of - that system, where we loan out that money and loose money doing it ... I worked for forty years and put into that system ... my return after 40 yrs is $20 a day ( you try living on that) ... the system SUX - of course RP wants to get rid of it ... it is a FAILED SYSTEM but in the mean time, he wants something back on his investment you are an ass hole just looking for some way to discredit RP - well this ain't it ... and apparently know nothing about the current SS system ... if it wasn't Mandetory NO ONE would participate ... because most people don't even get back what they put into it ... RP isn't "against" SS, he is against what the SS system does with OUR hard earned (stolen) money. which makes him - way more concerned about the AVERAGE AMERICAN CITIZEN than the rest of the Millionaire Club members of Congress Last Edited by SunnyDaze on 06/22/2012 12:23 PM |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1533318 United States 06/22/2012 12:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | well, he paid in, so he deserves to get his money back ... what he is complaining about is how it was "invested" ... if it had been invested in gold ... there would be a SS issue right now, but they invested it in the Stock Market and use it to manipulate it ... and that's what RP wants to get rid of - that system, where we loan out that money and loose money doing it ... Quoting: SunnyDaze I worked for forty years and put into that system ... my return after 40 is $20 a day ... the system SUX - of course RP wants to get rid of it ... it is a FAILED SYSTEM but in the mean time, he wants something back on his investment you are an ass hole just looking for some way to discredit RP - well this ain't it ... and apparently know nothing about the current SS system ... if it wasn't Mandetory NO ONE would participate ... because most people don't even get back what they put into it ... RP isn't "against" SS, he is against what the SS system does with OUR hard earned (stolen) money. which makes him - way more concerned about the AVERAGE AMERICAN CITIZEN than the rest of the Millionaire Club members of Congress How many times has Ron Paul called SS an entitlement program? A dozen times AT LEAST? Ohhh, only when he gets a check, he's earned it? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18345296 United States 06/22/2012 12:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | fuck yeah!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18345296 he paid into it!!! i only hope i get back some of mine from all those fucking years. fucking stealing govt. So, your loyalty is so blind that you will follow him right into hypocrisy eh? No compromise my ass. you're either stupid or a troll. i see no 3rd alternative. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17351077 United States 06/22/2012 12:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I didnt but yet it is deducted from my paycheck each pay period. Having my own option to invest that same amount of money into a fund that I can see and manage would be more desireable. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1533318 United States 06/22/2012 12:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | fuck yeah!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18345296 he paid into it!!! i only hope i get back some of mine from all those fucking years. fucking stealing govt. So, your loyalty is so blind that you will follow him right into hypocrisy eh? No compromise my ass. you're either stupid or a troll. i see no 3rd alternative. Oh really? What about the Libertarian party? Stop doing what you're told and think for yourself for once in your life. |
RP2012 User ID: 14627334 Turkey 06/22/2012 12:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | fuck yeah!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18345296 he paid into it!!! i only hope i get back some of mine from all those fucking years. fucking stealing govt. So, your loyalty is so blind that you will follow him right into hypocrisy eh? No compromise my ass. you're either stupid or a troll. i see no 3rd alternative. I think he is a stupid troll. He has to misquote Paul to make him look bad. The OP obviously has no understanding of Paul's stance on SS. So he is stupid for not understanding and misquoting....and a troll for TRYING to use those misquotes and half truths to make RP look bad. Like I said...Good try...but you lose op. :) |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1533318 United States 06/22/2012 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | fuck yeah!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18345296 he paid into it!!! i only hope i get back some of mine from all those fucking years. fucking stealing govt. So, your loyalty is so blind that you will follow him right into hypocrisy eh? No compromise my ass. you're either stupid or a troll. i see no 3rd alternative. I think he is a stupid troll. He has to misquote Paul to make him look bad. The OP obviously has no understanding of Paul's stance on SS. So he is stupid for not understanding and misquoting....and a troll for TRYING to use those misquotes and half truths to make RP look bad. Like I said...Good try...but you lose op. :) First, I didn't quote anybody. Second, I don't need to misquote him, the proof is in the pudding, he's a hypocrite. FAIL |
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I hope RP gets his SS User ID: 14627334 Turkey 06/22/2012 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Get in your defensive stance, Paultards. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1533318 This article is going viral. You'll have some explaining to do with this one. We will only have to explain things to brain dead retards like you that don't understand basic english. RP has explained his stance on SS. So everyone knows already how he feels, this is no bombshell. Like I said, only brain dead retards need an explanation. You fail, not only at trolling, but at life in general. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 15738519 United States 06/22/2012 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He is just getting back the money that the government took from him . He has said if he was younger he would jump at the chance to opt out. He was never given the opportunity to opt out. The government took HIS money for at least 60 years. I'm sure he will never get all of it back. |
SunnyDaze User ID: 1075367 Puerto Rico 06/22/2012 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you invested money in a program, whether it was Law or not, you expect something in return, especially after they hold your money and invest it ... the SS - by law - is not allowed to loan that money out ... but they do... at extremely low interest rates to the bankers, who actually DO make money on it ... at a rate of $50 a week, for 40 years, I have invested well over 100K into the SS system ... they know I won't live another 40 years ... so even if they figure I will live 20 more they should be giving me back TWICE as much as I put in, PLUS INTEREST accrued over 40 years ... at the current interest rate annually - my investment was over A MILLION BUCKS - which comes out to around 65K A YEAR for the next 20 years - but I don't even see 10K a year how many people would invest in a program that steals your money? |