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Knowledgeable man schools rookie cop after being detained for open-carry.

 
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i thought that was good, only thing i was wondering was, maybe the cop simply wanted to verify he had a valid open carry permit?
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You don't NEED a permit to open carry in many states...Maine being one of them.
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It'll probably happen in Texas come January.
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The cop seemed very reasonable.

The citizen lost his cool. He could have walked away with alot less attitude. Refusing to give your first name is in my books disrespectful. Not just to a cop but to anyone.

Citizen would have done better to respectfuly let the cop know he was not a felon and given his identity. Instead he acted like he was a teenage rebel out to prove a point, pretty embarrising to watch from here.
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fuck that, swine deserve no respect unless respect is GIVEN

they deserve no answers unless required by law

most cops don't deserve their jobs
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Last friday I got puled over for 56 in a 45 and had a few drinks. Not only did I just get a written warning ticket for speeding, the cop gave me the option to take a breath alizer test or call a friend to come pick me up. I called a friend. There are good cops out there.
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The point of this is to bring to the forefront the fact that we, in the United States of America, have inalienable rights. The fact that many, if not most, arbitrarily refuse to exercise those rights, is one of the major problems that exists in this country. The failure of the population to live in the liberty and freedom afforded to us by our Constitution and Declaration of Independence is why the government has been so successful in infringing upon those rights.

Provided we do not cause direct harm to another unjustifiably, we have the right to:

Say what we want to say.

Believe what we choose to believe.

Worship God in whatever way we see fit, or not, as the case may be.

Protest against that which we find unjust

Protect ourselves and our families from harm.
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ogrrr 2nd amendment? constitution? not as long as I'm king...
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06/22/2012 08:41 PM
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i thought that was good, only thing i was wondering was, maybe the cop simply wanted to verify he had a valid open carry permit?
 Quoting: Anubis

That might work in Canada....but in the states we don't need cops to continually verify everything....thats NOT his job!

Their mantra used to be "protect and serve" now it seems more like "harass and intimidate" is more fitting....

your papers please
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18414074


That might work in Canada ?? Are you fucking stupid ? There is no such thing as open carry in Canada.
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My point exactly......
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06/22/2012 08:42 PM
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Man lawfully carrying his side arm - an ignorant officer unlawfully detains him, requests ID.

[link to www.break.com]
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I posted this a couple days ago, but no one gave a rat's ass... lol.
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06/22/2012 08:44 PM
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I agree, well done. but this guy is going to be on the shit list. TSA/Homeland is embedded with local agencies. they wont make a priority of it, but the GPS of the guys cell phone and the cops' at that time of day + duration will be correlated.

I hope he has a good tax attorney.
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So I take it you think it'd be better if we all cower in fear?
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Great find. It's sad that some officers who are charged for protection of citizens don't know the law that they are supposedly schooled in. ALL POLICE SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO HAVE A 4 YR. DEGREE AND BE KNOWLEDGEABLE IN GUN LAWS.

Last Edited by enki2012 on 06/22/2012 08:51 PM
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in some States it is OK to carry a gun in the open
but a Statetrooper told me it is not wise
because people will call the cops and you will have
8 to 10 cops around you in no time and you could get shot
by a gung ho cop
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Tell that State Trooper to fuck off.
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The cop seemed very reasonable.

The citizen lost his cool. He could have walked away with alot less attitude. Refusing to give your first name is in my books disrespectful. Not just to a cop but to anyone.

Citizen would have done better to respectfuly let the cop know he was not a felon and given his identity. Instead he acted like he was a teenage rebel out to prove a point, pretty embarrising to watch from here.
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You are a typical Eurotard. Not even the slightest spark of what our country's founders had inside.

Maybe YOU can ignore all of the advancements of tyranny, since you re so used to kissing ass over there, but leave OUR freedom to US.

People like you NEVER learn, until the boot is literally against your chicken necks.
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06/22/2012 08:58 PM
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very lucky he wasn't arrested for FAILING TO PROVIDE ID upon request

most LEO would have arrested him and left it to the courts to sort out

i wouldn't suggest anyone trying this unless they're up for the challenge
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Stop... Stop... STOP... licking the boots.
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That really sucks that one has to have those court rulings memorized just to practice your rights.

Have you read the comments on Break? A bunch of brainwashed pussies.

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Yeah... That's a whole lot of work for a pampered sheep to have to commit to.
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Deadbeacon read the wiki link. It is already illegal to open carry in texas unless hunting, traveling to hunt, or self defense. If you say for the latter it will end up in court, as they will have to prove it was not for self defense either way your gonna take a ride
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So now this guy is a hero?

If he was walking with a gun near a elementary school and your kid goes there would you be as happy?

This guy is a provocative deucebag for carrying his firearm in the open.
The cop did the right thing by checking out what that guy was doing out there with a gun in plain sight and have a little chat.

Think about this guy if you are ever going to be so unlucky to stand on the wrong side of the barrel!
 Quoting: FalloutGuy


Why... Why... WHY... Are you Nethertards so unbelievably and HOPELESSLY brainwashed?

People drinking Fluoride over here, have 10 times the reasoning abilities of you Nethertards. You are worse than Aussies, and UK Tards, even. And THAT is not an easy feat to accomplish.
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So now this guy is a hero?

If he was walking with a gun near a elementary school and your kid goes there would you be as happy?

This guy is a provocative deucebag for carrying his firearm in the open.
The cop did the right thing by checking out what that guy was doing out there with a gun in plain sight and have a little chat.

Think about this guy if you are ever going to be so unlucky to stand on the wrong side of the barrel!
 Quoting: FalloutGuy


The guy walking down the street with a sidearm in a holster IN PLAIN VIEW is more likely to save your sorry ass from a real criminal than hurt you in any way.

Quit being such damned pussies - OMG HE'S GOT A GUN!! RUN!! PANIC!! FREAK OUT!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1055574


I know... For some reason, these Turbo-Libtards can't seem to muster up enough common sense to realize that criminals, and felons, and people who intend to do harm, don't calmly walk around carrying openly, KNOWING that they are far more likely to attract police attention.

Just how HARD is that to figure out, you fucking idiot anti-rights tards??
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i thought that was good, only thing i was wondering was, maybe the cop simply wanted to verify he had a valid open carry permit?
 Quoting: Anubis


Open carry permit?

Are you kidding?

In states that allow open carry, there's no permit required.

Only for concealed.
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That was outstanding. What gets me is all of the people who called the cops! I can't believe people overreact like that and call the cops right away.
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See something... Say something. Even if what you saw was LEGAL.

LOL!
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Sorry, but the guy was a prick. Im all for guns, but seems like he was walking around waiting for a cop to stop him so he could start quoting laws. Bravo to the cop for acting like an adult, all he wanted to do was find out what was going on.
 Quoting: AmericanInfidel


He either DIDN'T know what was going on or didn't care. If there is one civil right cops should be knowledgeable about its the right to bear arms. His job isn't to harrass people not breaking the law. And, there isn't any other way to address a cop in that circumstance. If you play Mr. Nice guy all you'll do is give up your rights.
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The cop didnt harass anyone, he just wanted to know everything was ok.
 Quoting: AmericanInfidel


Thats the same as stopping some granny with her shopping cart and demanding her ID. Yeah, because you wanna make sure everything is "o.k.". He wasn't bothering anyone anymore than granny. When the Nazis come to take over, you'd make a good guard.
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very lucky he wasn't arrested for FAILING TO PROVIDE ID upon request

most LEO would have arrested him and left it to the courts to sort out

i wouldn't suggest anyone trying this unless they're up for the challenge
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Its actually Failure to Identify, not Failure to Produce ID. Legally you are not liable to produce an ID source like a driver license and such unless youre suspected of a crime in progress or of a crime in general. You can be arrested if you dont identify yourself in a statement such as saying your name.

You have to produce ID if youre stopped while driving a vehicle by a LEO but you do not have to produce ID if yer a passenger in that vehicle if its just a normal traffic stop.
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So now this guy is a hero?

If he was walking with a gun near a elementary school and your kid goes there would you be as happy?

This guy is a provocative deucebag for carrying his firearm in the open.
The cop did the right thing by checking out what that guy was doing out there with a gun in plain sight and have a little chat.

Think about this guy if you are ever going to be so unlucky to stand on the wrong side of the barrel!
 Quoting: FalloutGuy


Lol, forst off my netherland friend...schools here in the USA are under lock and key...no one gets in past the office window in a foyer...not inside the school & the secretary has to press a button to let you in(she's behind bulletproof glass). NO ONE is allowed in a school that has any kind of weapons...not even you little Swedeish Army knives that probably many of you folks use like an ordinary utensil? Our Forefatheres knew the countries they left& how crooked & hypocritical they were....that's WHY we have the rights we have in America that you guys probably will NEVER have! It is better to HAVE a gun & not need it, than to NEED it and not have it!
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Good on this man for knowing his rights and not giving in.

I have to say, this cop was very reasonable. He didn't blow anything out of proportion and make a big deal of it. To me, he seemed like a good man just trying to do his job. He realized everything the guy filming said was right and let him go on his way without ever seeing the ID.
 Quoting: mal757


Are you kidding? The cop DETAINED the man, and refused to allow him on his way, until the SUPERVISOR arrived and cut the guy loose.

Did you even watch the same video?
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i thought that was good, only thing i was wondering was, maybe the cop simply wanted to verify he had a valid open carry permit?
 Quoting: Anubis


Open carry permit?

Are you kidding?

In states that allow open carry, there's no permit required.

Only for concealed.
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I need to amend that a bit. There ARE some open carry states that require that you obtain a license to open carry, but Maine (where the guy in the video was) is not one of them.
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So now this guy is a hero?

If he was walking with a gun near a elementary school and your kid goes there would you be as happy?

This guy is a provocative deucebag for carrying his firearm in the open.
The cop did the right thing by checking out what that guy was doing out there with a gun in plain sight and have a little chat.

Think about this guy if you are ever going to be so unlucky to stand on the wrong side of the barrel!
 Quoting: FalloutGuy


Lol, forst off my netherland friend...schools here in the USA are under lock and key...no one gets in past the office window in a foyer...not inside the school & the secretary has to press a button to let you in(she's behind bulletproof glass). NO ONE is allowed in a school that has any kind of weapons...not even you little Swedeish Army knives that probably many of you folks use like an ordinary utensil? Our Forefatheres knew the countries they left& how crooked & hypocritical they were....that's WHY we have the rights we have in America that you guys probably will NEVER have! It is better to HAVE a gun & not need it, than to NEED it and not have it!
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The Nethertarders LOVE tyranny. They didn't learn a THING from Hitler, or Stalin.
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The guy was completly right about the law and all but man if people continue to act like this with police officers say goodbye to all of our freedoms. What's written down on a piece of paper is nothing compared to what could become if the government decides to say fuck it the world is a bunch of idiot jack asses so we will do the same right back. I know police abuse goes on everyday and it's a terrible fact but I honestly think this guy was a complete tool and I find both of them wrong here. Not in a lawful sense in just a common courtesy sense.
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So you are against people pushing back? You would have them continue to cower in fear?

Sit down, shut up, and pay your taxes, so that the Powers That Suck can purchase more high-tech weaponry to control you?

So when (if ever) WOULD you start to exercise what's left of your rights?

Ever??
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what a pain in the butt. But he is in his rights
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Why do you F-tards continue to refer to someone legally practicing their rights as "a pain in the butt?"

Gee whizzz... No WONDER this country is in so much trouble! The Powers That Suck sure have you trained well.

Let me guess... You also believe the official story of 9-11 too... right?
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We can help the cops get beck to humanity when we treat them with respect too.
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I you mean, continue to cower, then I've got news for you.

IT DOESN'T WORK.

We've SEEN it over and over again. All it does, is encourage more steps forward, in encroaching on our liberties.
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We can help the cops get beck to humanity when we treat them with respect too.
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I you mean, continue to cower, then I've got news for you.

IT DOESN'T WORK.

We've SEEN it over and over again. All it does, is encourage more steps forward, in encroaching on our liberties.
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If ^^^
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i thought that was good, only thing i was wondering was, maybe the cop simply wanted to verify he had a valid open carry permit?
 Quoting: Anubis


generally you dont need a permit to open carry.
 Quoting: Blue Beamed


amazing.
we can't even OWN handguns up here except in very specific circumstances.

you guys don't know how good you have it (well yes you do)

defend those rights!
 Quoting: Anubis


Well, at least you aren't like MOST Canuckleheads, and (out of jealousy) tell us what "pussies" we are, for defending our Constitutional rights.
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We can help the cops get beck to humanity when we treat them with respect too.
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And we can help rehabilitate alcoholics by sitting down and having a drink with them too, right?
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It's a start. cheers
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But... It... Doesn't... Work.
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We can help the cops get beck to humanity when we treat them with respect too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1515981


95% of people will allow the police to intimidate them into giving up their rights. This is what law enforcement is told to do to deal with a citizen overtly exercising their rights. Look how they deal with all protests, free speech and 2nd amendment issues. If you can be intimidated into surrendering all your rights, then it can be said that you gave them u,p instead of them being taken away. That's why it is so important to know the law and not be afraid to defend your rights.
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"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be.[1] If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed."


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Sorry, but the guy was a prick. Im all for guns, but seems like he was walking around waiting for a cop to stop him so he could start quoting laws. Bravo to the cop for acting like an adult, all he wanted to do was find out what was going on.
 Quoting: AmericanInfidel


He either DIDN'T know what was going on or didn't care. If there is one civil right cops should be knowledgeable about its the right to bear arms. His job isn't to harrass people not breaking the law. And, there isn't any other way to address a cop in that circumstance. If you play Mr. Nice guy all you'll do is give up your rights.
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The cop didnt harass anyone, he just wanted to know everything was ok.
 Quoting: AmericanInfidel


Thats the same as stopping some granny with her shopping cart and demanding her ID. Yeah, because you wanna make sure everything is "o.k.". He wasn't bothering anyone anymore than granny. When the Nazis come to take over, you'd make a good guard.
 Quoting: READY SET GO!


Stopping grannie pushing a shopping cart is the same as stopping a man people have called 911 about carrying a gun in public is the same thing?? Listen, I'm all for gun rights and carrying, and be sure when the nazis come, I'll have mine loaded and ready for war, but you cannot tell me that after watching the video, the guy carrying wasn't acting like an assclown who was out looking for a confrontation with police just so he could prove a point. The cops did nothing wrong. Neither did the man with the gun. The cops simply wanted to be sure nothing had or was about to be done. It sounds funny needing to carry in Maine, you know with all the violent crime there. Lol. But it's his right. Good for him and us. But let's say he went on to his girlfriends house and killed her, then we would all want the cop fired. To me he just sounded like he was just dying to share his gun law knowledge with a cop.
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