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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18226512 Ireland 07/31/2012 08:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe that the market economy works. The exchanges are fair and everyone can contribute also benefit. However, we reached a level where the terms of trade and market share is quite uneven. Between people and between nations. This inequality was not built economically, but politically. Thus, the market system, which should be fair and compensate those who work, became a justification for maintaining this imbalance is not built economically, but through brute force. Quoting: salwensko 1318168 So you agree we need to regulate the state then? To rectify this imbalance? I do not think so. The state works for the market. I am not a Marxist but he has an interesting idea: the political and social organization is a reflection of the material and technological advancement. It's still early so that there are changes in our society. they will come in time. I believe that. Well, that's just false, you see, because you yourself stated that the ideal of a free market is desired and yet refuted socialism, which is the state eating the free market ( perhaps you took those positions because the concept of a free market is so popular) . So how can you then say the state works for the market. You arnt making any sense. If the state always works for the free market then you'd be for socialism, but you went against that while promoting the concept of a free market. So it "make" no sense. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18226512 Ireland 07/31/2012 08:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Obviously the same reasoning that leads to reject socialism will be used to reject your idea. Because the reason we don't have a free market is obviously the state, which interferes with regulation and biases laws for certain market actors, instead of the utilitarian or indifferent market protocol which allows for the Equilibirum or the invisible hand. I really don't know what you are selling here, again, the rhetoric got so complicated I'm confused as to exactly what you are saying, I think I m just going to say you are for socialism and disagree with you, there. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 14660550 United States 07/31/2012 09:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is funny how American leadership did it's best to implement Capitalism when it could from time to time and for the very short spurts that it did get its chance the value was so great that it lasted a very long time. Just look at the Green Back and the value of the dollar. Without such a strong dollar the banks would have had a stronger strangle hold much earlier on. It seems like they have had a hell of a time turning people away from a small taste of freedom. Karl Marx said it was Capitalism that becomes Imperialistic, but just look at how well Communism and Socialism has fared. Marx came up with many of his ideas through observation, but I am telling you now that he was witnessing natural changes in the human political system. The perfect socio-political system will come about from mans natural tendencies to establish roles and hierarchies. |
salwensko User ID: 1318168 Brazil 08/01/2012 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe that the market economy works. The exchanges are fair and everyone can contribute also benefit. However, we reached a level where the terms of trade and market share is quite uneven. Between people and between nations. This inequality was not built economically, but politically. Thus, the market system, which should be fair and compensate those who work, became a justification for maintaining this imbalance is not built economically, but through brute force. Quoting: salwensko 1318168 So you agree we need to regulate the state then? To rectify this imbalance? I do not think so. The state works for the market. I am not a Marxist but he has an interesting idea: the political and social organization is a reflection of the material and technological advancement. It's still early so that there are changes in our society. they will come in time. I believe that. Well, that's just false, you see, because you yourself stated that the ideal of a free market is desired and yet refuted socialism, which is the state eating the free market ( perhaps you took those positions because the concept of a free market is so popular) . So how can you then say the state works for the market. You arnt making any sense. the free market does not work without government regulation. I'm not talking about the ideal market, the free hand, I am speaking of our reality. and what we see in our reality the government is working to ensure the functioning of the market |
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Angry Hierophant User ID: 17671175 United States 04/30/2013 10:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It seems that there is no understanding here about the role of government in the economy. There is no free market without government action as there is no socialism without government control. In communist ideals, the government should not exist, whichever is the free association of free men. In liberalism pursues the same thing. Look at that curious thing. So let's abandon this idea that government is unnecessary because it is not. Neither capitalism nor communism. And our government is there to ensure the functioning of a market economy. is not hard to understand. Quoting: salwensko 1318168 |
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