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We don't need a revolution. We need an Evolution. One that is of mind and spirit.
A great quote by Buckminster Fuller:
“You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.”
We cannot evolve using combative, dualistic thinking. That keeps us trapped in tptb's paradigm.
We need to open our hearts, love more, meditate and build our consciousness. And then create communities of other folks who are turned on in a similar way.
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Great post
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I second this. We need to create an atmosphere that attests to the dignity of the Divine in each and every Human Being.
There is nothing that pushes back the darkness more Powerfully than showing them that no amount of oppression will make us forget our ability to Create in the face of their destructiveness.
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The flake factor just went through the roof.

Don't you have a yoga class you should be attending?
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Bunch of pathetic government loving sympathizers..

Liberal government nanny slaves! Lick the boots of your masters!

It is BAD to speak out against the system!

And this is supposed to be a conspiracy site?
Judgement is coming..
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Sit back. Relax. Open up a cold one with friends and family. And watch as all of the power-seeking parasites and their mirror-image revolutionists kill each other off - as Mother Nature comes in for the final CLEAN SWEEP.

Salut!

wine
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You poor misguided entity.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

You think your little world is so special, once poverty comes for you and your country, the spiritual cosmos will intervene and stop you from suffering.

Sure, only the rest of the world suffers, never will you.

yeahsure
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Bunch of pathetic government loving sympathizers..

Liberal government nanny slaves! Lick the boots of your masters!

It is BAD to speak out against the system!

And this is supposed to be a conspiracy site?
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If you hate your country so much, pack your shit and leave.

gtfo
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What's funny about this thread is that there is not one likeminded poster here that has the balls to do anything about this perceived injustice.
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Where do they draw the line though? With John Holmes he came through on his threats. What if this young man did something similar as the shooting in that movie theater? Should they wait to see if he was serious or not?

I mean, I am all for free speech, but his postings might have gone a little too far for in their eyes.
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What's funny about this thread is that there is not one likeminded poster here that has the balls to do anything about this perceived injustice.
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The man was clearly declaring war on the USG.

So where is the injustice? That they tried to help the guy because of his presumable PTSD?

The military industrial complex is a ticking time-bomb.

Militarism in the past worked because the spoils of war was spread among the victors. Today, those men wear suits in private, undisclosed locations, making decisions worth millions.

The men fighting the wars? Simply pawns on a chess board.
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He kind of looks like J.Holmes.

damned
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1. Delete Facebook. I did a video for The Greatest Truth Never Told series called Delete Facebook giving a non conspiracy reason why people should quit FaceBook as it is destroying our lives. Now you should a
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agent PEOPLE TRYING TO DELETE FACEBOOK MUST BE TERRORiSTS WITH SOMTHIGN TO HIDE!!!! ARREST THEM!!!!11
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We don't need a revolution. We need an Evolution. One that is of mind and spirit.
A great quote by Buckminster Fuller:
“You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.”
We cannot evolve using combative, dualistic thinking. That keeps us trapped in tptb's paradigm.
We need to open our hearts, love more, meditate and build our consciousness. And then create communities of other folks who are turned on in a similar way.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11698818


Great post
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21679688

I second this. We need to create an atmosphere that attests to the dignity of the Divine in each and every Human Being.
There is nothing that pushes back the darkness more Powerfully than showing them that no amount of oppression will make us forget our ability to Create in the face of their destructiveness.
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The flake factor just went through the roof.

Don't you have a yoga class you should be attending?
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Its not that I think that what was done to Raub can be
fixed by Yoga. I thing we are being bated and set up. Have you read about how Psychopaths operate, I have instead of going to Yoga. The corruption is not just in the gov't. Its in the schools, corporations, etc. Corruption is in the soul and our freedoms are God given. How would you address the negligence that has gone on for decades,we're not jus dealing with a King here and its world wide.
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Where do they draw the line though? With John Holmes he came through on his threats. What if this young man did something similar as the shooting in that movie theater? Should they wait to see if he was serious or not?

I mean, I am all for free speech, but his postings might have gone a little too far for in their eyes.
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what institution did they send him too???
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I also agree. His comments were escalating toward a violent one man revolution. You can be aware and awake without letting everyone know that you want to start a war. that on its own is a little unstable.

If someone on GLP posted that they were sharpening their axes to sever heads, I would be very concerned.

Anyway, its not just what he has written on his wall but also have a look at his notes on his facebook page.
 Quoting: Kazedfin


Exactly.

This day and age, everyone wants to be a Rambo. I wonder if they know it's not the wild west anymore...?

His words show extreme mental fatigue, lack of critical thinking and an irrational bias towards anarchy. More or less parroting what has become his personal world ethos.

In scope of the police state situation, it all has become to me, like an abusive relationship. The female is afraid to leave and the man just can't stop beating her.

End result?

Society cranks out killers and such.
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Look, I feel sorry for the guy. He's a retired Marine and who knows what atrocities he has witnessed and experienced. Not to mention how many times he's come within a whisker of death. there is enough evidence out there to suggest that many returned servicemen experience post traumatic stress syndrome among other mental health issues.

I think he is right to feel disgruntled, let down and angry with his government however his comments sound more irrational than poetic (which has been suggested on other posts).

Let's not forget that this guy has been trained to be a professional killer and any signs of mental health issues, however small needs to be taken into serious consideration.

Also, in my uneducated opinion, I don't think the US government does nearly enough to look after their vets. Your government is sitting on a time bomb and should take much better care of their returned servicemen and women.
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You seem entirely to miss the point about what has happened to him. He didn't go off his nut; he was arrested for calling out the government on crimes against the people. His professional training is irrelevant here. They didn't arrest him because of his training; they arrested him because he spoke the truth.
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You're right, he didn't go off his nut YET. If he was arrested for calling the govt on crimes against the people then so would thousands of others be arrested including every person who posts on GLP. I said that he is right to feel the way he does about his govt and I agree, he did speak a lot of truth.

However, his professional training combined with irrational comments like sharpening his axes to sever heads and alluding toward starting a one man revolution has to be taken into serious consideration.

In any case was he actually arrested or was he taken in for questioning and a psyche evaluation?
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There's talk.

And then there's walk.

Shooting up a theater of civvies is not do.

Shooting up people in a school is not do.

Shooting up people at an abortion clinic is not do.

Running a mouth on a forum, exposing a good dose of schizophrenia folded in with megalomania hitchhiking on smatterings of truth is.... A Fail.

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As I mentioned on the other thread, I think there's a little more to this story than Raub's patriotic position, or some anti-government posts on Facebook. From what I understand, he was talking about open revolution, that he was going to be the leader, and his guns were "bigger than a baby's arm."

Not sure if he actually threatened anyone, but he did not sound overly stable from what I've been able to piece together reviewing other forums talking about this.
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Would appreciate if someone could flesh out this story a little bit.

It is almost metaphysically impossible to be involuntarily committed.

This person must have done something that was interpreted as as threatening.

If he wasn't threatening this is frightening...

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I didn't read the whole thread, but from the snippit I did read above which someone graciously posted from his comments elsewhere, it appears he was outright asking for someone, ANYONE to "come pick him up" on the spot

as he was heading out (according to him) to start "the Revolution"

ummm, I mean come on... who does that?

you'd think they'd train them better than that in basic

don't ya imagine?

what was he gonna do, just go off willy nilly and start shooting??? and what in the hell good would that do anyone anyway, under any circumstance?

the whole thing makes little if any sense to me other than his piss poor attitude with regard to our liberties being annihilated right and left with wild abandon, which is a common consensus at this point, regardless.

it just doesn't add up to "logical" anymore so than does that pic of him masquerading as the aurora shooter with that same vacant smile on his face

how can anyone that is that distraught over "what he knows" and/or "has seen" in the world look so damn cavalier and happy go lucky in spite of such, which is what his photo projects in spades.

doesn't add up, but then again I ran outta fingers...
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Don't know what to think. You paint a picture of someone who may have looked a little unstable.

Given the Aurora massacre there needs to be a conversation about how much eccentricity we allow before there is an intervention.

Involuntary confinement might be overkill.
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involuntary confinement in a mental hospital straight away and skipping due process including the reading of his rights, is where they threw the book away, went entirely off the rails themselves, and made themselves look suspect in and with the doing, yes

that's where they blew their cover if they were intending on appearing to have done and/or to have been concerned with doing the right thing in any regard, yes

they made it look "contrived" on their part by the clandestine manner in which they strayed from the usual protocol in "like" circumstance of record. since they are ALL about precedent that would/should be the first thing they were careful about appearing to uphold.

so either they're slippin' with all hands on deck

OR

they are attempting to provoke controversy in this particular regard

"padding the record" in advance of some incoming element that the peanut gallery has yet to ascertain

sigh
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I will not go through 12 pages of BS to find out what he said to make the FBI come to him. What was said?
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What's funny about this thread is that there is not one likeminded poster here that has the balls to do anything about this perceived injustice.
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well we can get drunk as the dude obviously did, and visit too.

All they want is our money, obedience and silence, is that so bad?
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I will not go through 12 pages of BS to find out what he said to make the FBI come to him. What was said?
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It will easily be reposted if it has been stated already.
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Why the hell dont they arrest the new black pussies for their threats to the RNC
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Why the hell dont they arrest the new black pussies for their threats to the RNC
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Perhaps, their threats are false threats.

Perhaps, those in power only go after threats that they deem threats to their current power.
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one thing for sure, you run off to to battle with your antique rusky rifle, you not coming back any time soon. You bought them all their nice high tech toys and vehicles, and now all can afford is that old sks..

What'd you think you'd do with that?
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Sorry, this marine is batshit crazy. He could have ended up hurting, even killing innocent people.
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sounds like he was only concerned with the dark cabal, not killing innocents like that batman idiot...
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When this guy snaps, and he was very close, he would have lost all contact with reality and would have seen EVERYONE as his enemy, and either plan and carry out a mass killing, or just go out on a murderous indiscriminate rampage.

Or worse, go to a movie.

Seriously, never underestimate what has been done to many minds in the military.

They made these monsters, and can't figure out exactly what to do with them now.

The public is safer with this guy where he is now, with any luck maybe he can undergo treatments and be released eventually.
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Land of the safe or land of the free?
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Why the hell dont they arrest the new black pussies for their threats to the RNC
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Perhaps, their threats are false threats.

Perhaps, those in power only go after threats that they deem threats to their current power.
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well, it's certainly not speech, speech is what nbp or ows has, you only have the right to remain silent.
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Sorry, this marine is batshit crazy. He could have ended up hurting, even killing innocent people.
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sounds like he was only concerned with the dark cabal, not killing innocents like that batman idiot...
 Quoting: LibertyRises


When this guy snaps, and he was very close, he would have lost all contact with reality and would have seen EVERYONE as his enemy, and either plan and carry out a mass killing, or just go out on a murderous indiscriminate rampage.

Or worse, go to a movie.

Seriously, never underestimate what has been done to many minds in the military.

They made these monsters, and can't figure out exactly what to do with them now.

The public is safer with this guy where he is now, with any luck maybe he can undergo treatments and be released eventually.
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Land of the safe or land of the free?
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NOOOooooooo! Land of theirs, safe, and your land for a fee
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Have any of you guys considered that it is highly unlikely that facebook or the dreaded soopa spook alphabet agenices did not happen into this fellow by themselves...that it was far more likely someone who knew him alerted whomever...and that could very well be out of concern?....doubt it was the mom...listen to the interview with her and decide for yourselves on that.

Trust me when I tell you...it's not so easy to just get the SS or the FBI to show up and deal with anyone over threats even more unsettling than these...so someone had to generate a real conclusion of impending disaster about this guy.

I doubt they gave or give a shit about anyone calling the govt fuckwits or saying they are spraying us with chemjuice or any other thing along those lines...and if we see this?...there's probably even more where that came from that we don't...

BTW it wasn't a SWAT team and that hospital is not "Mental Hospital"...it's giant medical center that treats everyting from cancer to having a trauma center...hopefully the guy gets some help, because he seems to need some to me...

He also had a second FB page and was posting 50 cent videos on that one the day he was supposed to be arrested...

[link to www.facebook.com (secure)]

Also this Don't tread on me site did not break the story, they were pretty late to the game...it was a radio show and a couple of other sites that ran with this first...

His posts on the DTOM site were pretty bland.
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Why the hell dont they arrest the new black pussies for their threats to the RNC
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Perhaps, their threats are false threats.

Perhaps, those in power only go after threats that they deem threats to their current power.
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well, it's certainly not speech, speech is what nbp or ows has, you only have the right to remain silent.
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I'm not ragging on you.

I would like for people to stop with these unfamiliar abbreviations.
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Didn't that happen to Forrestal too.
Shoulda followed the signs but didn't
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I will not go through 12 pages of BS to find out what he said to make the FBI come to him. What was said?
 Quoting: Rebelucio


It was just endless typical posts on 9/11 with little people listening or part of his fb page. He focused on 9/11 mostly. He basically covered all the basic truther stuff in the short time he was on facebook.
He had two facebook accounts with one group page and had little following on them and very little people liking his posts. He seems like a fake, his accounts are strange, they start out of the gate on about 9/11 and nothing related to his life in general.
It has people fired up to start shooting and I believe it is a trap......but that is my belief and I know many will think him the victim, and some will run into the trap.
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get in shape and train. train hard......





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