why does christian dogmatic belief interject itself into so many threads?

i am only saying that you can't claim to believe in Jesus and then ignore what He said about himself

dogma has nothing to do with it

it's more like integrity

Look Malu I will come and go without your leave Sirrah,Who the hell are you to tell me thus?

who knows why these people do it? one thing is sure: its wrong and it doesnt sway anyone to believe in their crap.

SHEEP, paid posters will play you
so, be advised

I think USA have more christians than you realise. I have noticed on GLP if someone wants to reply with a christian based answer it is usually an annoymous coward. I think it is registered members who just feel embarrassed about their beliefs.

"The Lord said, "Fight, and I'll give you victory""

hmmmm...joshua didn't fight...he and his marched around for seven days? and then blew the horns and the walls came down...no fight.

oh well...deep subject.

"We all need to accept each other & whatever path of enlightenment chosen with total love, anything else slows our own progress.

beautiful AC, i don't think i've ever heard something so true and yet so simple. also i'm finding through personal experience that self love is the greatest starting point. once you learn to love yourself it is easier to love others and have them love you"

I agree wholeheartedly. It's like throwing the baby out with the bathwater, to eschew, name call or whatever another, merely because on a question of belief or personal truth there is not accord?

Isn't the deepest/universal truth to continue to love and be loved regardless of total agreement with another?

so, it's "wrong" for certain beliefs to be shared?

what is your version of free speech?

blowing the horns is symbolic of speaking Gods' Words
so, why are so many people afraid of words?

i have never seen a post take off this fast in the year i have been here,, oh you have touched a nerve ,,, nice job *wink*

and i have been on some fast rides here,,,

"I am part of all that I have met;
Yet all experience is an arch wherethro'
Gleams that untravell'd world, whose margin fades
For ever and for ever when I move.
How dull it is to pause, to make an end,
To rust unburnish'd, not to shine in use!
As tho' to breath were life. Life piled on life
Were all to little, and of one to me
Little remains: but every hour is saved
From that eternal silence..."

-Tennyson

Peaches,

Thank You

Sheep,

I am the same person. Love one another still stands. To effectively communicate, we must be able to communicate at the leve & language of the one being communicated to.

My beliefs were not being shared in this thread, I was simply stating that, no matter what road we choose to reach the creator, we must love one another AND accept them where they are RIGHT NOW.

I thought my post was doing just that, if I was incorrect in that thinking, I apologize

Yeah, thats what I thought, Poodle puddle.

Where's my dress?

we have had this discussion many times before
but new people may not have heard it

Yep: there it is:

User ID: 58450
1/7/2006 12:13 PM
Re: The 2nd coming

sheep.

feel free to email me or send a pm on this.

58450: Oh enlightened one. Where are you?

The question is, why have me email you, when your mind is set? Isn't that a bit kooky? Dare I say, devious?

AC 58450

I do so appreciate your back of the napkin analysis (i am not being facetiuous here) but I am indignant about being thrown off course so frequently.

I am not trying to foist anything on anyone, as i said in a paced manner, I LOVE good dialogue and am reverent to the fact that while it need not be "verbal"...if people are posting about a subject or buying sugar cones at the 7-11, the possibilites borne by someone prosthetyzing about their GOD and how JC is in the bundt I just purchased or commenting about it has a double helix type shape...which am i gonna chose to speak with?

I am rambling here i know...but how much more gentle can one be when breaking down someone's belief system that has been blindly adhered to.

I am reading (bathroom...its too dense right now) rudolf steiner's "intuitive thinking as a spiritual path" and he is all about michaelmas and christ and it is lively! but the lack of intuitive thinking is something i have a hard time "loving"

you know, if you are not outraged, youre not paying attention kind of thing.

i see so much fear. and believe me that fear is much more contagious than our love.

anyhow, ive kvetched a bit too long here

there is no end all discussion to this matter! i think the op is kicking back taking it all in,,, very interested in hearing her comments

all looneys are allowed on glp
even religious looneys

if you don't like it
go to one of those controlled forums

you are not rambling,,, you have opened up dialogue on a great subject,, and people have responded!

so, you admit to coming here to "break down belief systems"?
what a glorious mission you have given yourself

why not just learn like the rest of us?

oh go blow out your arse 43035! dang man

hypocrisy is sickening
even if it doesn't include Jesus

en regalia,

You stated:
I am rambling here i know...but how much more gentle can one be when breaking down someone's belief system that has been blindly adhered to.

It is not for any of us to break down anyone else's belief system. We can give them reason to question why they do what they do, but even to atemt to "gently" break down a belief system is not the correct thing to do. Truth comes to those who truly seek it. My truth may be different than yours, and that is just the way things are.

you stated:
i see so much fear. and believe me that fear is much more contagious than our love.

Be stronger than the fear - love is always stronger!

Where is my Dress,Poodle puddle?

Tennyson
healing waterfall of words

Sheep,

You asked:
The question is, why have me email you, when your mind is set? Isn't that a bit kooky? Dare I say, devious?

I have never stated that my mind was set. I am still working things out & I do not fit into any mold in what I believe RIGHT NOW.

The one thing that doen't change in my beliefs is that we are to love one another exactly as they are right now.

BJ,,, come on man

i think the op has launched a major thread,,, i am just going to do this



and watch and learn,,, thanks

zions fled,
thanks for the links...have read and known much of this for...long time. thanks anyway.


hmmmm...can't remember ac number...but i don't fear words and no one should as words can be healing...loving...life giving...or not. just as simply as saying i'm sitting and watching chaos begin....did i mean in the forum? yes? no? hmmmm.

this is what is good about glp...open convo's...even if scattered a bit.

En Regalia

I've only just stumbled upon a couple of your threads and am enjoying your contributions. I wonder though at you desire to break down the beliefs of others. If, by break down, you mean to question with a view to them opening up to questioning their own beliefs, seems cool enough to me. If by "break down" ou mean break so they see what you see, then I ask, is not your mind open, so that you constantly challenge your own beliefs, your own truths? That being the case you will be aware that at any given time your current belief or truth may be required tomake way for a deeper truth... by wanting others to see/accept your belief, and your truth, only to release your beliefs upon another challenge, is asking them to walk your path, in your shoes because it is the only way to the deepest truth?

There was a time when I needed to change other peoples views, to mine. I fouight hard at it, made my self quite sick over the years of doing it. And deep down what drove it? My need to be right, by making them "see" my right, I could, fleetingly feel better about myself. Why? Because clearly I felt less than, which fuelled my head banging to make others fall to my way to convince me of my "rightness" Circular, I know.

There's a way to challenge people, for me, the trick is to stay in love while doing it, to do it with compassion and to do it with pure intent, not self preservation or self engrandisement.

I'm not advocating everyone agreeing with everyone else, quite the contrary, I LOVE hearty discussion, it's name calling, veiled or otherwise that belittles and undermines the integrity of the discourse.

Now I'm rambling.

Isn't he though Celador? Never was another like him.

"And this grey spirit yearning in desire
to follow knowledge like a sinking star
beyond the outmost bounds of human thought"