Should it be illegal to spank your child ? | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24267411 United States 09/23/2012 10:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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Phennommennonn Forum Administrator 09/23/2012 10:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i dont believe in hitting my kids. i dont believe it solves a thing. i get thru to my kids via other options - that work. you dont get respect by force. respect is earned. Last Edited by Phennommennonn on 09/23/2012 10:52 AM political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5240732 United States 09/23/2012 10:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is NOT child abuse and it does NOT cause mental illness if done properly - never while angry, never with any object other then an open palm, never hard enough to cause bruising, etc. Kids can and do learn how to behave with the help of a swat on the bottom or hand every now and then. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 24265785 United States 09/23/2012 10:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | AS a child I experienced both proper spankings and abuse (I still have the scars on my back). My stepfather would beat me. This filled me with anger, hate, and rage. It did not discipline me. On the other hand my grandfather would send me to a bedroom to await my spanking. I had to anticipate it for a good 15 minutes before I got it. When he spanked me he would explain calmly why I was getting the spanking. Between each lick he paused to talk to me. By the time it was over I had hardly experienced any physical discomfort, yet I was balling in shame for what I had done. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6935981 Romania 09/23/2012 11:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | a friend of mine literally sold one of his father's cars without his permission :). He's 22. how do you beat your 22 year old son who's bigger than you? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6935981 with a stick no, at that age it's too late tgo beat him. he should have beaten him until he was 15 every weak but didn't. nobody is perfect. |
Orobllam (OP) User ID: 10848557 United States 09/23/2012 11:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is NOT child abuse and it does NOT cause mental illness if done properly - never while angry, never with any object other then an open palm, never hard enough to cause bruising, etc. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5240732 Kids can and do learn how to behave with the help of a swat on the bottom or hand every now and then. I agree. |
samanthasunflower User ID: 14930415 United States 09/23/2012 11:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | a friend of mine literally sold one of his father's cars without his permission :). He's 22. how do you beat your 22 year old son who's bigger than you? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6935981 Sit down the young adult and explain that what he did was grand theft auto. Either he gets back the car, or the police are called and he can spend some time in jail. |
KimmieAnnaJones User ID: 10039683 United States 09/23/2012 11:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All of our forefathers were mentally ill? I think not.. problem I have with spanking is when a parent does it out of anger, instead of discipline. Unfortunately in our fast paced lives these days, I am sure this happens a lot. "Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty, who was, and is, and is to come." - I AM Vote for people that have a track record for loving your Constitution or lose your country forever!!! Put down the damn touchy feely koolaid and WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!! :militia: |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 10750949 United States 09/23/2012 11:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i dont believe in hitting my kids. i dont believe it solves a thing. Quoting: Phennommennonn i get thru to my kids via other options - that work. you dont get respect by force. respect is earned. That is so true. I never even had to spank my children, because it hurt them enough if I would be just be upset with them. I always told them why I was upset and that is was'nt them I was directing this, but what they did that was wrong and why it was wrong. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 23673522 Mexico 09/23/2012 11:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I knew a director of Primary School once, and he said kids need a beating around the age of four onwards to set them straight. What a fkng twat. Just remember folks, there is such thing called childrens rights .... Go look it up before you strike a little one you fucking bullies. You can sanction fun time, or use time outs and other methods or just call those fat nannies from england and they will put you and your bairns in order without a single strike. |
seer User ID: 1529717 United States 09/23/2012 11:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | beat and spank are two different things. a child before the age of five lacks reasoning power and can and will get trapped in an emotional drama or stubborn act that is harmful. a quick slap on the LEG with set the child free from that stuck place and enable them to move into a new thought form. this technique should be used in extreme cases only and only if the child has no forms of autism. a child will want to run the "show" if you let them. it is a parents job to teach the child to listen. beating a child because they did something wrong is not the solution. |
Tethered Soul User ID: 23195427 United States 09/23/2012 11:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i had to spank my kids when they were younger from time to time (rarely)...just a light tap of spankings...as they got older i never had to correct them..i would ground them if need be, but even that was a real small amount...i was lucky to have good kids, that didnt get into real trouble. i mostly talked to them if they had done something wrong. I wanted them to feel they could talk to me without worry of being yelled at, but to have a real conversation...worked out great! |
ThinkOutsideTheBox User ID: 19171774 United States 09/23/2012 11:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | AS a child I experienced both proper spankings and abuse (I still have the scars on my back). My stepfather would beat me. This filled me with anger, hate, and rage. It did not discipline me. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24265785 On the other hand my grandfather would send me to a bedroom to await my spanking. I had to anticipate it for a good 15 minutes before I got it. When he spanked me he would explain calmly why I was getting the spanking. Between each lick he paused to talk to me. By the time it was over I had hardly experienced any physical discomfort, yet I was balling in shame for what I had done. ^^THIS^^ If used as a tool properly and not as abuse, it will succeed. ThinkOutsideTheBox |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 24267411 United States 09/23/2012 11:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i dont believe in hitting my kids. i dont believe it solves a thing. Quoting: Phennommennonn i get thru to my kids via other options - that work. you dont get respect by force. respect is earned. That is so true. I never even had to spank my children, because it hurt them enough if I would be just be upset with them. I always told them why I was upset and that is was'nt them I was directing this, but what they did that was wrong and why it was wrong. Ever wondered why so many folks here in america in huge need of meds and psychiatric "guidance". Because difference between. "upset mommy" and reality of "spanking adult life" make world "hard to deal with place". |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 23673522 Mexico 09/23/2012 11:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When was a kid the follwoing were used on me... Slaps Rolling pin A wooden stick Scholl shoes whacked on my fingers and toes for taking money from the purse of my aunt A hardback book thrown at my head A glass thrown at me which smashed on my hand Stress positions I lived in fear and wasnt brought up as much as beaten up. If you hit your kids they will turn out hopeless and will be nervous and damaged for the rest of their lives... Is it worth it? |
Areym User ID: 23974665 United States 09/23/2012 11:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I got smacked when I was a kid. sometime with a hand, or a belt, hell even with a spatula and I turned out just fine. No criminal records, no known mental illness, no depression, nothing nada. I don't think spanking should be illegal. Kids needs to learn, sometimes the hard way and there is no way in hell a spanking is gonna ruin your kid, that is serious bullshit with a capital B unless you use excessive force which a normal human being should know not to do. To all the people who find spanking appalling, keep sending them to their rooms on "time out" where they got their tv, computer, video game console, iPad, iPhone, etc. See how good that does. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 22538971 United States 09/23/2012 11:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | a friend of mine literally sold one of his father's cars without his permission :). He's 22. how do you beat your 22 year old son who's bigger than you? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6935981 You don't. You have his sorry ass arrested. Exactly. Get him put him in the slammer for a spell and go take your car back. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 24238318 United States 09/23/2012 11:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Disciplining a child is a very dynamic thing that requires much contemplation as a parent. And it is specific to each child. Unless you have kids, your opinion matters not and you forfeit the right to comment. Why? Because you just do not understand. The only thing worse than child abuse is giving the givernment control over what happens in your home. Nuff said about that. Spanking doesn't mean you are hitting your kid. Most of the time the threat of it is enough. And each kid is different. Some need it, some do not. Often when it is necessary, it is to protect the child. They don't have the awareness that adults have. And often simply talking to them will have zero effect. Giving them a time out is a laughable joke. Especially when you have boys that are convinced they can fly or can stop a car with their bare hands. Or decide that mommy is just another kid that can be told what to do. There's only so much time to mold the character of a kid. After a few years old, if you haven't done your job, that kid can be lost to incorrigability forever. Again, each kid is different. My daughter never once needed a swat. But my two boys on the other hand did to make them realize that they are not immortal. Without one or two very light swats on the rump, my sons would certainly be dead right now. In some cases it means the difference between being a strong community leader or a criminal for that kid. A proper swat does not hurt. And you do not use your hand. You use a prop like a rolled up magazine. It is the shame that shocks them out of their enclosed awareness. Not the pain. My 7 year old can easily over power my wife. It is crucial that he respect her now or there will be problems later. Especially when i am away at work. But to insist that the government dictate what goes on in your home is a pathetic and cowardly decision. If one wishes to elliminate child abuse, which is a universe away from spanking, then we need to look at the parents BEFORE they have kids. Because there are definitely people out there who should not have the right to procreate. I don't have a solution because most people are incapable of learning. Perhaps some kind of vetting or child education class required for parents. I don't know. But allowing the government control over your kids is never an option. For any reason. Ever. |