Books! Encyclopedia Britania- the Pictures have no chemtrails

There's a group of people in our community that are taking the chem-trailing very seriously... they've presented material on municipal level and are now seeking provincial audience.

They spent over 500 hours viewing footage from films/movies/documentaries pre-1970 - and couldn't find a contrail.

Likewise, they compiled a similar list of films/movies(non-CGI portions)/documentaries from the past 5 years (their list included over 300 different specimens), and they all contained (multiple) trails.

In the movie "Red Dawn" from back about 1985 there is a scene where a pilot gets shot down. After the air battle is over there is a sky shot that shows long contrails stretching across the skies.

I've actually seen a con-/chemtrail in the movie "Breakfast at Tiffany's". It was in one of the scenes where the main character is outside of Tiffany's one deserted morning. I believe at the beginning of the movie, but don't hold me to that...

there was someone back a couple of years, and I did not keep the article(at least I haven't found it yet on the three computers I have used since then) that documented the PLACING of con/chem trails into older popular pics and movies....

Was the movie in the vhf format or was it a recent copy on DVD or was it on television?

Please do let me know which, I would honestly like to know.

thanks

Very good initiative OP!

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So, are you saying...

1) the sky shot was showing trails that were already there and they happened to capture them?

or

2) that the movie 'red dawn' was showing us things to come? as that movie seems to hold alot of clues, predictive programing...

we had a thread awhile back - which we posted early movies that had chemtrails in it

i posted rocky - after the scene where adrian was in the hosp - that was 1976??

OR...

because of the 'air battle' thus alot of shot up planes giving off smoke, were the 'con/chem trails' actually smoke?

remember if the pot on your stove is steaming, the column of vapor disappears and never makes it out of your kitchen...

if the pot on your stove is SMOKING, the column of smoke fills your whole house and sets off your alarms....

please tell me it is not the same for con-trails and chem-trails....

if you do not planely see this evidence, you are either really deeply asleep, under the influence of an outside force, or part of the deception...

I don't care what anyone says....I've lived next to an airport my whole life........My family used to joke that there were skid-marks on our roof from the planes taking off and landing nearby. My father worked at the airport for 25 years.

Chemtrails are NOT contrails.

The first time I personally noticed them was about 5 years ago. I was sitting in my living room, looking out our big picture window, watching these planes flying across the sky. I remember sitting up and thinking at first that there was problem with one of them because of the huge, thick plumes coming out of the back of it. Then, I noticed the other plane had the same thing. Then, I realized that their flight paths were criss-crossing and it looked like a game of tic-tac-toe was going on. It was very apparent to me at that point that something was being sprayed.

Several hours later, I went outside to take my kids for a walk and the ground was covered with a white thin layer of fluff. In my head, I made the connection. But I didn't know what it meant. I'd never heard of chemtrails....just knew that whatever was on the ground had come out of the planes I'd seen earlier.

I have a friend that just moved to Moscow, Russia. He has posted over 300 pics of the place. I noticed every single one has dark blue skies, normal fluffy clouds- NO chemtrails.

[link to contrailscience.com]

based on the logic put out by the sheeple/shills, I guess russia has no planes....

cus plane's engines leave condensation trails in the upper atmosphere because they are hot and the air is cold and the water vapor CONDENSATES thus producing the long long trail that hangs in the air

NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

When you get a chance to see a real condensation trail, it is about the shape of the flame on a lighter or a candle...

it disapates very quickly, you CAN SEE IT DISAPPEAR!!!!

Logic and the laws of physics would say that, if it lingers, it is NOT WATER VAPOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Our upper atmosphere is the same temp, give or take a degree or two, everywhere around our earth....kind of like our oceans....

no matter the conditions on land, the upper atmosphere should be basically unchanged, therefore, there should either be trails EVERYDAY since jets took to the sky, or NO TRAILS at all....

YOU CAN'T HAVE BOTH!!!!!!!!!!!!11

The fact that we have both PROVES man's hand is in this!

Observable FACT:

trails on Monday, no trails on Tuesday....

Have you ever noticed, there are not trails on major holiday weekends where the holiday falls on Sunday...

it's the magic combination....

I don't really think the atmosphere took a vacation....

do you????????????

great link to read the comments below...

always read people, find those old magazines at the thrift store, yard sale, etc...

I have a cache of field and fur from 1929 thru 1933...

very interesting reading....land for $20, beautiful pics...no con-trails...lol

go to this link, see the photo shopped pics, and read the beautiful commentary, some knowledgable folks there are.

(comments in blue are debunking con-trail myth, supporting chem trail experiences/observations including military)

example;
geoengineer says:
April 25, 2009 at 8:13 am
we want the VIDEOS not the photos.

what?? the videos with ultra-persistent “contrails” doesn’t exist?? oh….

try again stupid disinfo.

THERE IS NO VIDEO SHOWING PERSISTENT CONTRAIL PRIOR 1999!!!!

that’s because atmospheric GEOENGINEERING it’s used in the late 90′

We had LOTS of them in 90's, but when Putin came to power in 2000 they COMPLETELY disappeared. Just ask any russian who is old enough to remember 90's.

Ah, sorry yes. You must be right.
I distinctly don't ever remember seeing them when I was growing up.
I didn't see them in the 60's, 70's or 80's.
I didn't see them at all because obviously, d'uh, they weren't there.

Regarding the one here, one there contrail: of course you are going to see one or two contrails at some point in a film or picture. Jets do fly in the sky. What they are talking about are the lines in the sky that don't dissolve away in a few minutes like normal contrails do. They are talking about the lines in the sky that fan out and create a white filmy screen across the sky so you can't tell if there are clouds in the sky or not.

At one point this summer there were so many laid down in my area and the day before that, although there supposedly wasn't a cloud in the sky, (according to the weather report) it was hard to tell if there was or not! The sky was so hazy looking and it wasn't hot out to justify that kind of hot hazy summer day we all know. It was 74 degrees. When you looked at the horizon it was white.

wow, thanks for that piece of history...

I hope this thread gets people to look back into thier own memories, not that of the media....

Don't let them tell you what to think, what to remember....

I hear that, OP. Good thread.

what about family photos?

anybody got photos of thier moms and dads?

aunts and uncles?

how about grandparents or great grandparents outdoors?

people on horses?

people at the race track or hot air baloon races,

pre 1990?

pre 1980?

How about 1970's?

based on the pictures this site presents(but be sure to read the comments area below, lots of good back and forth on the subject)

we should have pictures of family(non-military scenarios)with 'trails' in the back ground ranging from 1945 on....

what do you think people?

think we will find them in our own albums?

Please let us know what you find!

I don't buy the Life Magazine layout because look like they were provided from some kind of file verses an owned copy being scanned in or photographed and uploaded.

I will take some pics of the field and fur from the depression, you will see that I have the hard copy and it is what I present to you, vs some media soft sell possibly photo shopped pics from the msm.

First of all...It's encyclopedia Britannica.

And just because there isn't a picture of something in there..doesn't mean it didn't exist.

Is there a picture of a powder blue Volkswagen Beetle in there? I guess they didn't exist either...

I can't find a powder blue Volkswagen Beetle in ANY image in all the National Geographics I have in my basement...40 years worth.

I guess that means they didn't exist....ever.

How about you look into some books about weather, aviation, clouds at the library?

Pre 1967 showing contrail/chemtrail saturation.

[link to contrailscience.com]

In 2011, I could not have taken even one picture outside without having trails in the back ground....

If I took it at the park
If I took it at the fair
If I took it at the soccer game
If I took it at the air races, kite festival, hot august nights.....

If I took a picture in 2011, there would have been
trails....

but in 2012, the summer of, the sky is blue again....

same sky, same atmosphere, same town, same camera, same eyes but no trails....

so you tell me....

where have all the trails gone?
where have all the trails gone, a long time ago?
where have all the trails gone, jets stop making them, every one,
when will they ever learn?
when will they ever learn.....

science would say there is a variable not being taken into account here...

I propose that variable is man and his desire to control the environment.

google 'ground based cloud seeding', then look at any huricane satelite footage from the last year....aren't those 'plums' interesting?????

Out of nowhere, made from nothing....there are no lakes at those locations...to evaporate water and make clouds...nature does not do things so neatly...
you can observe that each plume is equadistant apart...like a well manicured lawn with sharp edges....

man prefers staight lines...

So, by sea, by air, by land, our environment is being manipulated.

I must ask you, AC, what stock do you have in continuing to believe it isn't so?

Would your world crumble to see what is going on around you?
Is it money?
Are you being blackmailed?

If you have taken any time to learn, either by reading or going to school, you would know that our winds and weather have been eratic and no longer follow the MECHANICS of atmosphere + thermodynamics = winds that go in the direction they are supposed to, clouds that form over bodies of water, like they are supposed to, the jet stream moving across the land like it is supposed to...we have precidence, the study of earth science didn't just happen yesterday....

go to weather underground...look at the 'wundermap', leave the weather stations on....and watch the winds....

when you have stations in a 100 mile area with wind direction all pointing towards each other, thus indicating that something is superheating in the middle, then you have an unnatural event...when it occures over and over and over again.....

I have explored 'what is in the middle',
I have downloaded the charts and records for different areas...
I have researched and documented the changes....winds that come from certain directions, on certain days...at times that would match a time-clock....

We have the technology.

Pull your head out of the sand and see....

It's called "Wake Up!"

I remember reading that as well.

What's more startling is what I observed last week. Monday and friday were clear blue sky. No contrail, no chemtrail. Nothing.

Wednesday, thursday, and friday almost the same relative humidity and high temperatures and overnight lows yet preponderance of 'lines' drawn accross the same cloudless blue sky staying there all day.

There was hardly any change in humidity and high and low temps and according to the explanation it's actually lower temps that are supposed to support contrail development and yet the only change in weather was slight increase in temp.. The lines were drawn predominantly below the height of the jet stream.

Then saturday the clear blue sky was no longer clear and blue but silverish and hazy. Only blue when looking near perpendicular from the ground but not deep blue like monday and tuesday.

Now I live 20 minutes from DFW airport. There is no shortage of planes flying around here. I've observed planes flying at about the same heights, one leaves a chemtrail the other one's contrail disappears shortly behind the plane. It is anomalous. Planes flying through the jet stream you can see the chemtrail dissipate for the section through the jetstream.

I believe these particulates are metals of some sort and are introduced to fuel supply so nobody is complicit, neither plane company, airliner, or pilots and/or crew.

Then there are always the 'planes' that fly very high and draw a line from horizon to horizon in 5 - 10 minutes. These fly way way too fast to be commercial.

It is what it is. Anomalous.

Again, I've noticed this same difference in the past on days that had the exact same conditions of humidity and temperature. One day no lines. The next day lines everywhere.

This is what I find intriguing. This does not fit the scientific explanation. Why they are doing it? Who knows. Probably more insidious than I care to ponder.

this a comment taken from this page

very well put and logical

states my point exactly


NVrep says:
May 1, 2008 at 12:00 pm
Very informative site, Uncinus. You’ve definitely made me question the solidarity of this whole “chemtrail” uprising. Though, there is one thing that confuses me:

The irregular occurrence of being able to visualize contrails in the sky.

From what I understand the main modifier of a contrail is based on the temperature of the high altitude (~-40°C render it visible) at which the plane is flying. Yet, during the summer season, 105°F on the ground, there will be criss cross contrails to the horizon. Then the very next day, 100°F on the ground, and the sky is completely clear.

I think you know what I’m getting at. This alone gives me a slight impression that these lingering contrails are intentional, and really if you could give me a structural explanation as to the reason for this drastically changing sky we live in today I would be very grateful.

Also, do you happen to have any photographs of “chemtrails” in America that were taken before 1997? Before the Open Skies Treaty was established in this country? That would be helpful as well.

Thank you for your efforts!

I used [link to www.engineeringtoolbox.com] and
[link to www.state.gov] as a reference.

What does temperature at altitude have to do with temperature at ground level?

It can be 100° at ground level or 30 at ground level...and -40 at altitude. And humidity is also a factor. Just because the temperature at ground level is similar from one day to another...doesn't mean the temperature OR humidity is the same at altitude for those 2 days...or even SHOULD be!

Why do you people assume that you actually understand these subjects?!

only jet engines make contrails..

so pre 70's not a lot of jet engines??

I don't give a shit what importance YOU put on YOUR own observations.

I understand that I have personally seen these trails since the early 70s in the Boston suburbs.

There are MORE of them now, because there are MORE high efficiency jet engines which push the air saturation past the supersaturation point. In the past, the air had to be VERY close to saturation before a jet engine would add enough moisture through combustion to create a contrail.

Now that high efficiency jet engines are the norm,...and there are MANY times more of them in the sky...and more flight corridors/paths....and more airports...and more flights overall...there is TREMENDOUSLY more opportunity for these engines to push the moisture content in the air past the supersaturation point.

I'm sorry..but it's obvious that the chemtards don't understand these facts.