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Anonymous Coward User ID: 381788 United States 09/26/2012 08:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If there was no such thing as money something would take its place... I couldn't imagine trading crops for a 60" tv though... Quoting: Hitokiri Think outside of the box. We have the resources to give everyone on the planet a 60-inch TV. The goal is to not have to trade anything for anything. Planet Earth provides. |
boilerbengal User ID: 24195231 United States 09/26/2012 08:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If there was no such thing as money something would take its place... I couldn't imagine trading crops for a 60" tv though... Quoting: Hitokiri Think outside of the box. We have the resources to give everyone on the planet a 60-inch TV. The goal is to not have to trade anything for anything. Planet Earth provides. let me try to understand the space outside your box. we have the resources to give everyone a 60 inch TV ? how in your opinion would that work ? i feel like I'm not following your logic here. A Clear Choice Is Upon US. Communists VS. Capitalists |
spiritwalker4 User ID: 11740433 United States 09/26/2012 08:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If money were suddenly no object, humans would become destructive. They would not know how to act. Like being institutionalized. Everyone is so used to this way of living that even though it should be a relief of heavy burden, it would be destruction. Sad :( spiritwalker.posterous.com |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24447347 United States 09/26/2012 08:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't laugh please. Intimate loving sex really matters - and most folks get it through marriage or other committed relationship. Women always leave, and no shrink or other person has been able to fathom it. I don't understand it, and would be glad to pay for it, but only if it's loving. SOME drugs are really helpful in finding happiness and health. Many of these are illegal and as others become available, governments of the world make them illegal. As part of MY birthright, I want to have access to them - preferably legally. So that's it - intimate loving sex and effective drugs without either legal sanction or MD gatekeepers. Two things you can't buy with money that really matter. The only other thing that might matter would be worldwide travel without fear of borders. That's a distant third behind the first two. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19503697 Ireland 09/26/2012 08:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If there was no such thing as money something would take its place... I couldn't imagine trading crops for a 60" tv though... Quoting: Hitokiri Think outside of the box. We have the resources to give everyone on the planet a 60-inch TV. The goal is to not have to trade anything for anything. Planet Earth provides. THIS ^^^ THIS ^^^ THIS ^^^ WE HAVE TO BREAK THE MENTALITY AND PERCEPTIONS WE HAVE BEEN PROGRAMMED WITH WE ARE ALL SO MUCH BETTER THAN ALL OF THIS SHIT HUMANITY PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PPPPPPPPPPLLLLLEEEEASSSSSSEEEEE WAKE UP |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24447347 United States 09/26/2012 08:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If money were suddenly no object, humans would become destructive. They would not know how to act. Like being institutionalized. Everyone is so used to this way of living that even though it should be a relief of heavy burden, it would be destruction. Sad :( Quoting: spiritwalker4 For some of us, money is no object, and yet we don't spend it - it's just not that necessary. Those who are slave to the tube might worry about losing a frame, yet once tried, it's much easier to detach from the working/buying/selling meme except in so far as it's fun and enjoyable - not for the result. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1243463 United States 09/26/2012 09:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your delusional and have no understanding of human nature Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23164226 Money is one of the most useful things humans have ever invented. You would not have the computer you are typing on without it, nor much of anything else. The problem is fiat currencies and the criminals (politicians and bankers) that promote them. Educate yourself, spend some time at misses.org If an ET were to land in your backyard, there are two things he wouldn't have: money and a bible. think about it for a while... take your time He probably won't have our Bible or our form of money, but you can't be sure he does not have a holy book of a form of currency on his home planet. But since he is a figment of you imagination I guess you can be sure. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14392840 United States 09/26/2012 09:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if it was no object....it would just get replaced by another form of goods / objects that got traded for items that you needed... thus putting you right back were you are now. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1145727 Money is just a representation of time worked with a value placed on the work you do. it has been this way from the first days that man created a village. Now if you are saying you are taking all this motivation of trade away, then I would become a lazy ass, do what ever I wanted, take what ever I wanted and expect people to create good for my behalf. Hes right, Money is a form of energy, exchanged for other energy.. There has to be a even flow.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1243463 United States 09/26/2012 09:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If there was no such thing as money something would take its place... I couldn't imagine trading crops for a 60" tv though... Quoting: Hitokiri Think outside of the box. We have the resources to give everyone on the planet a 60-inch TV. The goal is to not have to trade anything for anything. Planet Earth provides. THIS ^^^ THIS ^^^ THIS ^^^ WE HAVE TO BREAK THE MENTALITY AND PERCEPTIONS WE HAVE BEEN PROGRAMMED WITH WE ARE ALL SO MUCH BETTER THAN ALL OF THIS SHIT HUMANITY PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PPPPPPPPPPLLLLLEEEEASSSSSSEEEEE WAKE UP Earth does not provide labor. When you convince people to dig the ores, smelt the metals and assemble products without compennsation your dream will come true |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1243463 United States 09/26/2012 09:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm always asking people this question, "What would you be doing if there was no such thing as money?" Myself, I'd probably have an orchard to grow food to help feed others. I'd also be a spiritual counselor to help people find their true divine reason for being here. Quoting: in5d What would YOU do if there was no such thing as money? What is stopping you from the orchard idea? Or, if that is out of the question with your current resources then how about helping in other ways? See, you can volunteer your time or use the MONEY you earn as a tool to help others. You have no spare time now? Not even time to type a silly idea on a computer? Watch TV at all? You have time to spare. Do you own more than 3 changes of clothing? Do you have anything that is not crucial for survival? Then you have extra MONEY to help others. Money is not the problem. The problem is the CHOICES we make. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1243463 United States 09/26/2012 09:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is the biggest illusion of all. Quoting: fortytwo If you live your life chasing the dollar you will miss the beauty and peace that nature freely offers. What was that?..you can´t pay your mortgage with nature? sucker! you have been sucked into the system. Huh?..you can´t buy food with peace and tranquility? fuckwit! food is free in the real world. The apple tree does not charge for chalky re-frozen crap including govt tax. FFS forget money, it will soon be relegated to history as mankinds greatest fuckup. Nature will never provide the luxuries we in the modern world have come to expect. Where is the thermostat? Actually, where in nature is the house (enough for 6 billion folks)? How can I travel 2 miles or less and find EVERY food item I need in one spot? In nature many creatures are not able to locate food for many days at a time. You see them foraging in rain, sleet, and burning heat. Are you really wanting that life? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 23842309 United States 09/26/2012 09:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thus the famous Bible verse about "the love of money" being the root of all evil. It's our desire that's evil; Money's just the means. It's hunger that makes us destroy another life so we can survive and thrive. Life itself is the evil. That our strongest urges are to stay alive and perpetuate life means that life is also a trap. Some say the world has much beauty, but it's one thing to behold a thing, and something entirely different to be that thing as any person who's been blessed with physical beauty will tell you. Compassion via empathy, our one saving grace as a species, comes most readily to those who regularly deny their desires. That's why zealots are so annoying. We feel their desire to "help" just as much as we would their desire to harm or take advantage. Besides that, do-gooders make the mistake of thinking that the world can be repaired. No living thing acts without stimulus or motives. If aliens come here in a ship, they're acting on some motive. The aliens I've met have all had some type of currency. Don't get me wrong. I think the money system stinks too. |
TheBiss User ID: 1501937 United States 09/26/2012 09:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If an ET were to land in your backyard, there are two things he wouldn't have: Quoting: in5d money and a bible. think about it for a while... take your time I took my time. I think you're wrong. Maybe right about money, but any species capable of existential thought (that is, not a hive mind ala Starship Troops or Borg) is going to ponder the questions "Who am I" and "What purpose to I serve" and "Where did all this come from?" You can bet your butt that they are going to have some kind of Holy Writ on that spaceship. [link to www.grainmill.coop] - Bulk foods, long term storage solutions [link to www.CatawbaCoops.com] - Unique A-Frame chicken coop plans |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24447347 United States 09/26/2012 09:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm always asking people this question, "What would you be doing if there was no such thing as money?" Myself, I'd probably have an orchard to grow food to help feed others. I'd also be a spiritual counselor to help people find their true divine reason for being here. Quoting: in5d What would YOU do if there was no such thing as money? What is stopping you from the orchard idea? Or, if that is out of the question with your current resources then how about helping in other ways? See, you can volunteer your time or use the MONEY you earn as a tool to help others. You have no spare time now? Not even time to type a silly idea on a computer? Watch TV at all? You have time to spare. Do you own more than 3 changes of clothing? Do you have anything that is not crucial for survival? Then you have extra MONEY to help others. Money is not the problem. The problem is the CHOICES we make. Why help others? Did they ask? What did they offer? Do they deserve? Maybe. Either way, it's your choice and you're under no obligation. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1243463 United States 09/26/2012 09:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If money was no object, I would start a spiritual movement (not a specific religion) of peace and respect for each other. I find it rather sad that we have lost such basic compassion for one another. Quoting: Jilly23 What is stopping you? I working in a large factory for may years and I knew several 'preachers' who had a church (building) and a congrgation they ministered to. So the realithy is, money is not an object in the path you want to take. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1243463 United States 09/26/2012 09:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm always asking people this question, "What would you be doing if there was no such thing as money?" Myself, I'd probably have an orchard to grow food to help feed others. I'd also be a spiritual counselor to help people find their true divine reason for being here. Quoting: in5d What would YOU do if there was no such thing as money? What is stopping you from the orchard idea? Or, if that is out of the question with your current resources then how about helping in other ways? See, you can volunteer your time or use the MONEY you earn as a tool to help others. You have no spare time now? Not even time to type a silly idea on a computer? Watch TV at all? You have time to spare. Do you own more than 3 changes of clothing? Do you have anything that is not crucial for survival? Then you have extra MONEY to help others. Money is not the problem. The problem is the CHOICES we make. Why help others? Did they ask? What did they offer? Do they deserve? Maybe. Either way, it's your choice and you're under no obligation. If thet was meant for me, I was pointing out to OP that the money system does not stop him from helping others IF that is what he wants to do. In fact money facilitates giving just as it facilitates other transaction. |
Jilly23 User ID: 22123524 United States 09/26/2012 09:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If money was no object, I would start a spiritual movement (not a specific religion) of peace and respect for each other. I find it rather sad that we have lost such basic compassion for one another. Quoting: Jilly23 What is stopping you? I working in a large factory for may years and I knew several 'preachers' who had a church (building) and a congrgation they ministered to. So the realithy is, money is not an object in the path you want to take. I see what you are saying, but this would not be a traditional "church" it would be a "gathering" for lack of better words. I know no one who thinks outside of church walls. This would have to cost money because it would have to draw from a different minded crowd. This too shall pass... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1243463 United States 09/26/2012 09:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If money was no object, I would start a spiritual movement (not a specific religion) of peace and respect for each other. I find it rather sad that we have lost such basic compassion for one another. Quoting: Jilly23 What is stopping you? I working in a large factory for may years and I knew several 'preachers' who had a church (building) and a congrgation they ministered to. So the realithy is, money is not an object in the path you want to take. I see what you are saying, but this would not be a traditional "church" it would be a "gathering" for lack of better words. I know no one who thinks outside of church walls. This would have to cost money because it would have to draw from a different minded crowd. Start a web-site. Very little or no money required. I'm sure you have other excuses |
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jcab2002 User ID: 24453126 United States 09/26/2012 09:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was going to start another thread, but it's relevant here. What if the world's greatest minds were not dedicated to the war machine? Talk about misallocation of resources. What if they were dedicated to bettering the human race? What if pharmaceutical scientists were dedicated to preventing and curing diseases instead of creating new diseases and making people dependent on medicine? Where do the world's smartest people work now? And if there were no money? How many brilliant people are drawn to parasite professions like law, politics and finance? What if Thomas Edison with help of the government did not alienate and bury Tesla with his plans of free wireless energy for the entire planet? What if the people who work at the Monsanto's of the world instead figured out how to inexpensively and safely feed the world in a sustainable way instead of a dependent on corporations way? “We must keep the people busy with political antagonisms." “We’ll therefore speed up the question of reform (of tarrifs within) the Democratic Party; and we’ll put the spotlight on the question of protection …(for) the Republican Party." “By dividing the electorate this way, we’ll be able to have them spend their energies at struggling amongst themselves, on questions that, for us, have no importance whatsoever." - United State Bankers magazine, 1892. |
Jilly23 User ID: 22123524 United States 09/26/2012 10:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If money was no object, I would start a spiritual movement (not a specific religion) of peace and respect for each other. I find it rather sad that we have lost such basic compassion for one another. Quoting: Jilly23 What is stopping you? I working in a large factory for may years and I knew several 'preachers' who had a church (building) and a congrgation they ministered to. So the realithy is, money is not an object in the path you want to take. I see what you are saying, but this would not be a traditional "church" it would be a "gathering" for lack of better words. I know no one who thinks outside of church walls. This would have to cost money because it would have to draw from a different minded crowd. Start a web-site. Very little or no money required. I'm sure you have other excuses Wow. Why try to hurt me? That was very negative... This too shall pass... |
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Hitokiri User ID: 4657115 United States 09/26/2012 10:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If there was no such thing as money something would take its place... I couldn't imagine trading crops for a 60" tv though... Quoting: Hitokiri Think outside of the box. We have the resources to give everyone on the planet a 60-inch TV. The goal is to not have to trade anything for anything. Planet Earth provides. let me try to understand the space outside your box. we have the resources to give everyone a 60 inch TV ? how in your opinion would that work ? i feel like I'm not following your logic here. Me too... So some people would work to some how build TVs out of earths resources to give it to those who don't work? Doesn't sound fair to me. "We learn from history that we learn nothing from history." - George Bernard Shaw |
Hitokiri User ID: 4657115 United States 09/26/2012 10:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If there was no such thing as money something would take its place... I couldn't imagine trading crops for a 60" tv though... Quoting: Hitokiri Think outside of the box. We have the resources to give everyone on the planet a 60-inch TV. The goal is to not have to trade anything for anything. Planet Earth provides. THIS ^^^ THIS ^^^ THIS ^^^ WE HAVE TO BREAK THE MENTALITY AND PERCEPTIONS WE HAVE BEEN PROGRAMMED WITH WE ARE ALL SO MUCH BETTER THAN ALL OF THIS SHIT HUMANITY PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PPPPPPPPPPLLLLLEEEEASSSSSSEEEEE WAKE UP Earth does not provide labor. When you convince people to dig the ores, smelt the metals and assemble products without compennsation your dream will come true This^ For some reason people think that the world can operate without compensation to those who work... That's called slavery! And even then you have to provide food and shelter for your slaves. "We learn from history that we learn nothing from history." - George Bernard Shaw |