IF 1948 WAS THE PROPHECY OF ISRAEL'S RESTORATION? THEN ASK THESE QUESTIONS

Hey I agree with this. But read the wording:

Exodus 20
8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

6 days you shall work but on the seventh is the Sabbath. So what if I worked Saturday thru Thursday (6 days). Wouldnt the seventh be my Sabbath? I mean in places like Israel it would be easier to live by the EXACT command of the 7th day being the Sabbath but in other places what would you suggest people do that have jobs that cannot work by this schedule? Nonetheless I agree and try to honor the 7th day as the sabbath (which is right now for me) but I understand others not being able to go by this.

One bad thought can kill you.......God is holy.


That is why Christ said that you must be born again......born of the Spirit......because your flesh was long ago killed by sin.

Abraham did it didnt He? Didnt Job? What about Noah? So why do you say no one is able to do it if those right there are four men that did and were accounted as RIGHTEOUS in the Almighty's eyes? Nonetheless yes that is what I would tell an unbeliever. That the Almighty is real and expects us to live according to the way He laid out for us.

Do you have the holy spirit? Im not trying to assume but I assume (lol I did it ;p) that you would say yes to this. Nonetheless if you did you wouldnt be preaching what you are I PROMISE. Unless the prophets sent in the Tanakh (erroneously called the "old" testament) by the Almighty were false. Then maybe you do. But I doubt they are false prophets. Thus if your message is contrary to theirs I sincerely doubt that you (or those that teach a similar message) have the Holy spirit inside of them.

read genesis chapter 1 through 5


If you want more proof as how the days were counted go to the crucifixion of christ when he was risen ,You WILL SEE

MATT CHP 28TH
In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre

Why was David not killed then? Or Lot? Or Moses? Well Moses was but he sinned before the sin at the rock. But why wasnt Jonah killed? Aaron after the calf? All these men (and more in the bible Im sure) sinned yet were not killed. There was always grace and there was always mercy. The Almighty is holy but He's also slow to anger. This doesnt mean He isnt wrathful and vengeful against sin but He isnt one to wher you mess up one time and He's ready to destroy you and your family for it.

ANOTHER MISQUOTE OF Paul


When he came to know what sin was it killed the flesh part of him that was evil because he always thought the killings and his tyranny was justified

just wondering.....are you claiming that the Pharisees were not true Israelites or Jews ? If that's what you are saying then how do you interpet John 8 when Jesus said this to the Pharisees after they claimed that Abraham was their father


37 I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.

Last Edited by Simple_Man on 10/27/2012 05:08 AM

I think this is what he meant in the first place.

TRUTH!

That is true: sundown Friday until Sundown Saturday!
Read your Bible!

The question is what the proper 'hollowing' of the Sabbath?

because every nation came from abraham but not all nations came out of jacob, Christ came out of jacob through judah.

The twelve tribes of israel are the twelve sons of jacob.

abraham- isaac- jacob - 12 tribes of israel from his 12 sons


abraham- isaac - jacob - esau- edomites- the serpent seed


abraham - ishmael- ismaelites

If you need to see the other nations outside of abraham then go to genesis chapter 9 and 10

OP,
you've lost your mind. I dare you to get in a debate with me - a messianic Jew - about 1948.

lol

Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 10/27/2012 10:24 AM

Who indeed is "the synogogue of satan?" Israel is STILL scattered in the Diaspora and will be reunited as in Ez. 37. It is all in the future after the Lord returns. This "nation state" is a creation of the english-zionists.

Thank you much

Can you please give me the verse?

Exd 16:23 And he said unto them, This [is that] which the LORD hath said, To morrow [is] the rest of the holy sabbath unto the LORD: bake [that] which ye will bake [to day], and seethe that ye will seethe; and that which remaineth over lay up for you to be kept until the morning.
Exd 16:25 And Moses said, Eat that to day; for to day [is] a sabbath unto the LORD: to day ye shall not find it in the field.

Exd 16:26 Six days ye shall gather it; but on the seventh day, [which is] the sabbath, in it there shall be none.
Exd 16:29 See, for that the LORD hath given you the sabbath, therefore he giveth you on the sixth day the bread of two days; abide ye every man in his place, let no man go out of his place on the seventh day.

Exd 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

Exd 20:10 But the seventh day [is] the sabbath of the LORD thy God: [in it] thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that [is] within thy gates:

Exd 20:11 For [in] six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them [is], and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Exd 31:14 Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it [is] holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth [any] work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people.

Exd 31:15 Six days may work be done; but in the seventh [is] the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth [any] work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.

Exd 31:16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, [for] a perpetual covenant.

Exd 35:2 Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the LORD: whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death.

Exd 35:3 Ye shall kindle no fire throughout your habitations upon the sabbath day.
Lev 16:31 It [shall be] a sabbath of rest unto you, and ye shall afflict your souls, by a statute for ever.

Lev 23:3 Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day [is] the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work [therein]: it [is] the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings.

Lev 23:11 And he shall wave the sheaf before the LORD, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it.

Lev 23:15 And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete:

Lev 23:16 Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the LORD.

Lev 23:24 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, In the seventh month, in the first [day] of the month, shall ye have a sabbath, a memorial of blowing of trumpets, an holy convocation.

Lev 23:32 It [shall be] unto you a sabbath of rest, and ye shall afflict your souls: in the ninth [day] of the month at even, from even unto even, shall ye celebrate your sabbath.

Lev 23:39 Also in the fifteenth day of the seventh month, when ye have gathered in the fruit of the land, ye shall keep a feast unto the LORD seven days: on the first day [shall be] a sabbath, and on the eighth day [shall be] a sabbath.

Lev 24:8 Every sabbath he shall set it in order before the LORD continually, [being taken] from the children of Israel by an everlasting covenant.

Lev 25:2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye come into the land which I give you, then shall the land keep a sabbath unto the LORD.

Lev 25:4 But in the seventh year shall be a sabbath of rest unto the land, a sabbath for the LORD: thou shalt neither sow thy field, nor prune thy vineyard.

Lev 25:6 And the sabbath of the land shall be meat for you; for thee, and for thy servant, and for thy maid, and for thy hired servant, and for thy stranger that sojourneth with thee,

Num 15:32 And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day.

Blessed [is] the man [that] doeth this, and the son of man [that] layeth hold on it; that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and keepeth his hand from doing any evil.




Isa 56:6 Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant;


Isa 58:13 If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, [from] doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking [thine own] words:


Isa 66:23 And it shall come to pass, [that] from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.
Jer 17:21 Thus saith the LORD; Take heed to yourselves, and bear no burden on the sabbath day, nor bring [it] in by the gates of Jerusalem;

Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 10/27/2012 03:07 PM

just wondering what your thoughts on this question is

how is it that Issac and Rebecca could have a son and he is serpent seed ?

Very true. But we also should give thought to the following.

During the "70 year" captivity in Babylon, a group of Jewish army leaders approached Jeremiah and begged that a remnant of Jews might return to the land of Israel (Jer. 42:1+). Jeremiah asked God about their request. He granted them permission, but told Jeremiah to explain the conditions of the return to them, and warned them that those conditions were absolutes that could not be violated under penalty of death.

The two primary conditions imposed by God with respect to this early return were that they had to remain peaceable in the land and stay strictly within the borders defined for them by the king of Babylon. They of course didn't listen - looking to Egypt for their protection instead of Faith in the Most High.

As then, so we see now. They broke the conditions then, as they do now. They rely on militarisation - the horses and chariots of the world Egypt - instead of the Most High. The fact that the UN and world leaders granted these Jews return is simply proof that these are the kings of Babylon today.

1 Peter 5:13 She who is in Babylon, chosen together with you, sends you greetings, and so does my son, Mark.

Peter knew that we are in Babylon "captivity", that the "70 year captivity" was prophetic of Daniel's kingdoms of Babylon, Persia, Greece and Rome and that only Christ frees us from this captivity spiritually. Today, there are many Jews world-wide who refuse to go to Israel because of this very reason - they know that only a decree by the king of Persia will end the captivity....and that their fellow Jews in Israel are the contingent who simply repeat the mistakes of the past and who will suffer the same fate.

Satan has always found a way to fight the holy seed.It STARTED WITH ADAM AND EVE!

cain and abel

jacob and esau

end time Messiah vs Satan


To answer your question the only thing I can think is that esau developed a hatred and a jealousy and anger and pride which allowed satan to possess him

Just like cain and abel

Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 10/27/2012 05:33 PM

Why don't all of you hate-loving religious sacks of shit all go back to hell from where you came from?

hmm...interesting


what I'm about to propose is going to be very touchy....I realize that this might make some people very angry with me but here goes

doesn't it make more sense that eve didn't actually eat apiece of fruit

the Bible states that the serpent had the ability to talk....it also states that it wasn't until after the transgression that the serpent was cursed to crawl on his belly ...thus he transformed into a snake

why is it that after they partook in the forbidden fruit that they knew they were naked and the cover ever their genitales ?

why is that God said after the transgression that he would put enmity between the seed of the serpent and the seed of humans ?

why is it that the bible say that Cain was the " Son of the evil one"

I believe that the serpent was an upright walking beast that had the ability to communicate with eve.....he beguiled her (which in some definitions means to seduce)

he had sexual relations with her ...she then went to Adam and convinced him to partake of the "forbidden fruit" and he did

she was impreganated by the serpent and also by Adam and she had twins

this is a medical phenomenon known to happen and here is proof

[link to www.foxnews.com]

why is it that Cain was born first but Abel recieved the birthright

after Cain killed Abel ....Seth replaced Abel in the linage and the linage went thruhim instead of Cain ....even tho Cain was firstborn

why is it that blood is required by God as a atonement for sin?.....because it was the mixing of the blood that caused the original sin

why did Jesus have to be virgin born...because he couldn't comenthru the sex act because the sex act was what caused the downfall of man and seperation from God.....the sacrifice that Jesus gave redeemed man back unto God

I believe that when the bible talks about the nephallim ....it was this

The sons of God saw that the daughters of men were fair and they went unto and bore children.....that the Sons of God were the ones thru Seth's lineage and the daughters of men were thru cains linage .....as a result the literal serpent seed was mingled with the righteous seed and ever since then it travelled thru the Righteouss lineage ....I believe that the serpent seed would pop up time to time in the righteous lineage

just like a family lineage can produce a redhead and there won't be another redhead born into that family for let's say .....a hundred years ...but a outnofthe blue ....a redhead child is born into a family of dark haired people

I believe that Esau was literall serpent seed...it layed dormant thru Abrahams linage and was manifested in Esau


I realize that most of you will call me blasphemous and other names but I tried to lay out what I believe while being sensitive

Last Edited by Simple_Man on 10/27/2012 06:05 PM

People need to be opened minded about things.I did some research into that verysame point you are making and I know that angels can take any form they want to,they can appear as us; man or woman.

Eve was enticed somehow and it is a topic that I keep within myself until the father shows us the whole truth.Right now I am sold on the apple lol

Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 10/27/2012 06:49 PM

Wow, you sure put in alot of work.

There is a massive amount of Sabbath verses. But not one about it being Friday to Saturday.

How is it you are so sure it is just that.

I will tell you what1 you be your own God and choose which ever day you are happy with..Since last night I showed you in matthew 28th and explained it all to you.
At this point ask the father for direction.

"Let's not talk to those who completely disagree with us. It could be bad for business."

I actually think you are being your own God since there is no scripture what so ever to support your claim.

It says 7th day. And to us the 7th day in a week is sunday. But what day should we start at? We dont know that and I have not seen any scripture that says wich the first day is.

My conclusion is that we cannot be sertain wich day is the Sabbath, and that is a bit strange since it is a big deal for God.

Take another look at your calendar kid, Sunday is the first day of the week.

And we can be certain which day is the seventh day and therefore The Sabbath day. The Hebrews took very meticulous records that prove the line of Sabbath days has never been broken. Also, check around for the word for Saturday in various languages; in over 100 languages the word for Saturday literally means Sabbath.

Here is a sample list for starters...
Arabic: Sabet
Armenian: Shabat
Bosnian: Subota
Bulgarian: Sabota
Corsican: Sàbatu
Croatian: Subota
Czech: Sobota
Georgian: Sabati
Greek: Savvato
Indonesian: Sabtu
Italian: Sabato
Latin: Sabbatum
Maltese: is-Sibt
Polish: Sobota
Portuguese: S ábado
Romanian: Sambata
Russian: Subbota
Serbian: Subota
Slovak: Sobota
Slovene: Sobota
Somali: Sabti
Spanish: Sabado
Sudanese: Saptu
Ukranian: Subota

Of course English, which has been corrupted by the Vatican and its Roman pagan worship, has names of false pagan gods for its days of the week.

This is "replacement theology" at its finest.

Your first sin kills you......spiritually.....and separates you from God.

God is Holy.


I died when I was about 8 or 9 years of age. This is when I was able to read and understand God's commandments......and then deliberately went out and stole some change.....or perhaps it was a fib to my mother which killed me.


That first sin separated me from a holy God.


And that is why Christ answered the Pharisee Nicodemus question about eternal life with "Marvel not, you must be born again."


We are all wretched sinners......whether we know it or not. There is much evil in the flesh.....and the flesh is in fact dead because of sin.


There are not only commands given in the Old Testament but in the New Testament as well such as:


"Fear not.....

"Be anxious for nothing.....



Million of sins during the course of a liftime......and over our heads.


That is why although the Pharisee bragged about himself during his prayers......and distanced himself from others.......but the truly repentant one could not even lift his head to heaven......but beat on his breasts......and cried out to God......."God be merciful to me the wretched sinner."