The Abomination Of Desolation : March 22, 2013 | |
MHz User ID: 34243878 Canada 02/23/2013 07:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The nation of Israel was established in 1947. According to the RSV of the Holy Bible, 70 years are to pass until the end of desolations. We are already IN the last 7 year period called the "tribulation"! The end of transgressions is to come sometime in the year 2017 (1947 plus 70 years) according to the present calendar we use. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26476073 It is impossible for us to be in the Tribulation to have already started, for it is launched with the signing of the covenant (Daniel 9:27), which has not happened yet. What is the starting date, when UN 181 was signed by Gentiles in Nov./'47 or when UN 273 was signed by Jews in May/'48? |
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drhoecker User ID: 16728269 United States 02/23/2013 08:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | While I can't say this is fact, it certainly lines up with scripture. It would also explain why 322 is the secret number of Skull and Bones. the final word is thus, if we as human beings change we will be spared that easy and as well my message,that is from the one who looks forward in full color |
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Dease (OP) User ID: 31128946 United States 03/05/2013 12:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's coming... "Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid or terrified because of them, for the LORD your God goes with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you." - Matthew 22: 37-39 "What good will it be for a man if he gains the whole world, yet forfeits his soul? Or what can a man give in exchange for his soul?" - Galatians 5: 22-23 |
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Anonymous Cowardly Lion User ID: 36417340 United States 03/18/2013 06:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The nation of Israel was established in 1947. According to the RSV of the Holy Bible, 70 years are to pass until the end of desolations. We are already IN the last 7 year period called the "tribulation"! The end of transgressions is to come sometime in the year 2017 (1947 plus 70 years) according to the present calendar we use. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26476073 Yeah, that's the way I understood it too. You have to remember though, that whenever the Bible mentions Israel, its talking about Jerusalem. Israel did not gain full control of Jerusalem until 1967. I use to think that it meant when Israel became a state, the generation thing would start at the time. But after looking into it further, I see it as that generation period beginning in 1967, when Israel gained full control of Jerusalem. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 35332138 United States 03/18/2013 07:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Keep your eyes peeled we are already well into the 7 yr Tribulation period and I suspect we are only months, if not weeks or days, away from the beginning of the last 3.5 Jacobs trouble) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29791397 March 22nd sounds about right... Accept Christ as your Lord and Savior and Pray always that you may be accounted worthy to escape these things. You are absolutely correct-a-mundo. The "Abomination of Desolation" has ALREADY STOOD IN THE TEMPLE. Read Thomas Horns book entitled "Apollyon Rising 2012" and you will have concluded that the temple is actually the CONGRESSIONAL BUILDING IN D.C.. In 2010 during the state of the union address the POTus gave the strong man over to be bound by the sodomites (U.S. military infiltrated by DADT)Thereby seting the stage for an abomination to stand where it ought not. He will finish this usurpation by requiring monitoring of everyone (certainly the military) by RFID/Invisible Tatoo barcode in your forehead or right hand. AMERICA WILL BE FINISHED once the Supreme Court legalizes gay marriage as the law of the land. And finally the POtus negotiates the phoney baloney Israeli/Palestinian peace accord. BE PREPARED TO DO THAT HANDSTAND THINGY (Pole Shift) |
MHz User ID: 34243878 Canada 03/18/2013 07:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is my understanding that the seal judgements take place in the first 3.5 years of the trib. You, and many others, are suggesting that we are nearly at the end of the 1st 3.5 year period, yet by the 4th seal scripture clearly states that 1/4 of all living things will have been killed. This does not even include the persecution in the 5th seal, or the natural disasters in the 6th. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31452833 Clearly these things have not happened yet. This theory doesn't fit with scripture. Power over the 4th part of the earth means possession of an area (and all that is in it). 1/4 of the earth is all the land area. Great thread OP 5 stars and pin!! Quoting: Indysmindy Question.... do you think this is the first 3 1/2 years that the Christian's have to go through - then the rapture, thus the possible population reduction? I sure hope so. There will be somewhat of a population reduction at the rapture, but sadly I don't think it'll be a big number. But the Great Tribulation will kill off most of the world's population (maybe around 75%), so that will be an extreme population reduction. The 6th trump will take 1/3 of the population, on the day of return Jesus's sword will take 2/3 of the remaining population. Zec:13:8: And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the LORD, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein. The nation of Israel was established in 1947. According to the RSV of the Holy Bible, 70 years are to pass until the end of desolations. We are already IN the last 7 year period called the "tribulation"! The end of transgressions is to come sometime in the year 2017 (1947 plus 70 years) according to the present calendar we use. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26476073 You are off by one year. Month of Nov.the time frame of Israel becoming a nation again in 1948. 2018 is the 70th year. But you are right about the 70 years. Satan will arrive in the month of April of what year, I do not know. Those who understood Daniel know the season. There is only four seasons on this earth. Spring , summer, fall, winter. Spring and fall are not seasons in Scripture, there is only winter and summer. Last Edited by MHz on 03/18/2013 07:51 AM |
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MHz User ID: 34243878 Canada 03/18/2013 08:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | one thing that you should keep in mind is that any time you speak of a year in prophetic terms .... Instead of 365.25 days in a year like we have in thegregorian calendar ....in a prophetic year there is only 360 days Quoting: Simple_Man there is a lot I agree with in this presentation but something's I disagree with because of the above mentioned factor I would agree that 1260 days and 42 months are the same length and both are in Revelation but they are not part of the 70 week prophecies. In the book of daniel ....from the time that the command went forth to rebuild Jerusalem until the messiah was 69 weeks ....if you use prophetic years of 360 days then you come to 30 ad ....the year that John baptized Jesus ....this was 69 weeks which in prophetic terms was 483 years from when the order was given to rebuild Jerusalem .... the 7th week immediately started at the jorden river and 3 and a half years later in the midst of the seventh week ....messiah would be cut off... Quoting: Simple_Man Close but if you use the times given in the Gospel og John there was not 6 months tthat passed between the baptism and His first passover. On top of that there was more time than that pass before John was in prison and Matthew says Jesus started to preach only after John was in prison. To get 3 1/2 years prior to the cross you come to when John the Baptist was called and that event prevented Jesus from beginning to preach until John was in prison. That is how Jesus was 'cut-off'. Joh:3:24: For John was not yet cast into prison. the Messiah confirms the covenant made to Abraham and his physical lineage the Hebrews for seven years ....the seven years began the day he was baptized and he then begin to preach to the Jews but.....3 and a half years later he was cut off...."crucified" ....not for himself....but for the whole world ....Daniel then states the the messiah would cause the sacrifice and obligation to cease....and that's exactly what happened when he was crucified....from then on God no longer required the obliaton..which is animal sacrifice as an atonement for sin any longer ....so that leaves 3and a half years to the Hebrews to fulfill the 70th week .... Quoting: Simple_Man Actually God is the 'he' in that verse and it is established in the verse below. The 3 1/2 years after the cross included the return of the money changers, more blood sacrifice and those were the 'overspreading of abominations' and the 70 weeks were completed when Peter was visited by Gentiles in Acts:10. Da:9:4: And I prayed unto the LORD my God, and made my confession, and said, O Lord, the great and dreadful God, keeping the covenant and mercy to them that love him, and to them that keep his commandments; Daniel 9:23-27 Quoting: Simple_Man Know therefore and understand, [that] from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince [shall be] seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof [shall be] with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate Jesus said once you see the fig tree put forth its bud ...that his generation will not pass before all things were accomplished so....if you ad 70 years to 1947 when the UN passed a resolution making Isreal a nation ....you come to 2017 ...this is the year that the battle of Armageddon takes place and it this worlds evil society ends....so that's means if it ends in 2017 then ou have to subtract 3 and a half years for the start of the tribulation and that is in 2013 ....this is all just biblical mathematics so I could be wrong about all of this but it all lines up...so this is what will happen... This generation references the ones counted in the temple in Re:11. The start of the 'time of the Gentiles' was in 70AD (Luke:12-24) and the ones counted are people that say prayers of repentance and 'that generation' will not pass away before the return with 'tribulation' being 42 months, the time of the first 4 trumps is 4 days and the 5th and 6th trumps take up 42 months also. In the last 4 days the two witnesses are dead and prayers of repentance will be 'outlawed'. If my timeline is correct Sometime in 2013 There will be a huge earthquake to proceed the resurrection of the new testament saints ... Just like when Jesus was crucified... in the Bible says there was a mighty earthquake and the Old Testament saints were resurrected... The Bible says that Jesus was on earth for about 30 to 40 days after his resurrection before he was raptured ... I personally believe that the Old Testament saints that were resurrected after the earthquake were also raptured at this time.... Quoting: Simple_Man They also ascended to God with Jesus on that day but only Jesus returned. The 24 Elders isn Re:4 are those resurrected Saints. If there is a earthquake in 2013 and all the "asleep"New Testament saints are resurrected .. there will be a period of time for about 30 to 40 days when they on the earth and after this time period The resurrected saints will be raptured with the saints that are alive and remain like Paul taught Quoting: Simple_Man Nobody else is resurrected after the 2 witnesses until the 7 vials are poured out which takes about 3 hours on the day of their resurrection. At the conclusion then mant people are resurrected from the grave, the list is in Re:20:4. I don't believe that this group that is alive(the bride of christ)and remain is going to be a huge number... There were 2 million Hebrew children that came out of Egypt and wandered in the desert for 40 years... But out of these 2 million people only 2 crossed over into the promised land.. Joshua and Caleb.... That makes the odds One in 1 million.... Quoting: Simple_Man Okay but not really part of the last events. There is about 7 billion people only Earth right now...l If you take The odds of one in 1 million then that would mean that there will be 7000 people that are alive and remain and take a rapture.... If there is a huge earthquake that proceeds this event and there is chaos going on around the globe then the 7000 people will not even be missed Quoting: Simple_Man If those 7,000 die just after Satan is the authority in Jerusalem (witnesses are dead)then they are killed so the cannot worship the image standing where it should not be, that is a throne in a temple in Jerusalem. The 'abomination associated with Daniel' is from the verse below so it has nothing to do with the 70 week prophecies. M't:24:15: When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) Da:11:31: And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate. In the old testament the prophet Elijah thought that he was the only one that was serving God But God informed him that there were 7000 people that also hadn't bowed down to the image of Baal.... So the 7000 number has an Old Testament type also Quoting: Simple_Man Okay. |
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