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I Ban Thee (OP) User ID: 21926529  United States11/08/2012 07:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A couple reasons why the republican party is dying: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25470046 If you look at the makeup of people in this party it is most white men, then older people and some white women. The tide has turned in America and the white race is dying out because white people are not repopulating their race. People of color are breeding more than 1.8. Soon the white people are going to be the minority all over the country, not just in the southwest. The republican party has become fundamentalist. Religion or lack thereof is not what a political party affiliation should be about, that is what churches are for, to support your religion. the republican party has strayed from the main concept of separation of church and state too far for most people's comfort. The republican party has alienated women from the their party by trying to turn back the right of women to make their own decisions about reproduction. Having people like karl rove co-opt the tea party movement certainly turned me off. It started off as a good movement, one that I supported, then it was hijacked by the neo-cons who pretty much got us into the mess we're in. The way the republican party and the media was so rude to Dr. Paul, a long time conservative who was respected by many, was also a big turn off. We need more honest statesmen in our leadership like Dr. Paul. I've been registered as a republian because it used to stand as the party that was fiscally conservative. It championed the environment. It was for limited government. I don't even recognize the party anymore. It's a sad state when the republican party can not muster up a viable candidate to beat Obama, twice. They are dying because they have ignored the middle class and embraced brown nosing the elite..... Period. In my opinion, you are both right... to an extent. You say "Republican" when you SHOULD be saying "Liberal Wing of the Republican Party". You can't white wash all Republicans with one brush. We have let the Liberal/NeoCons run this show for FAR TOO LONG. The True Conservative Republicans, or at least the ones with any guts and going to see that our Party is restored. Immediately. I too was a Republican until I could no longer stomach the blatant brown nosing of the elite. The clincher was when I observed first hand the fraud and down right illegal activity that many of these "conservative" folks perpetrated daily. Social security disability fraud, child support fraud,tax fraud, intimidation etc. etc. etc. They are hypocrites . I'm not asserting that these activities don't occur within other partis. They do. But for the Republicans and their Tea Party to take a stand portraying themselves as upright ,Christian,law abiding citizens is a JOKE!!! And so... you're now a Liberal? LOL! Wake up and do something. Call out the people (Liberal Republicans) that "brown nose" the elite, commit fraud. Surely you don't want to be a Liberal, do you? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14564403 United States11/08/2012 07:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Liberalism and Neo-Conism. When a Conservative Party adopts Liberal policies, a Liberal mindset and Liberal "Frontmen", then it is doomed to failure (see election results). The "Republicans" tried to move to the LEFT and fight the DemocRats on their own turf. The result was a near landslide of electoral votes. Quoting: I Ban Thee It's time to rebuild the Republican Party or dismiss it to the ashcan of history. A Liberal Republican Party is guaranteed to fail... the next election will be worse if Liberal thinking continues to dominate the party. The country has been flooded with Illegals from all over the world. The economy has been decimated by NAFTA, GATT and other "One World" policies, thereby creating millions of Socialist voters. Make NO mistake... the Globalist ideas such as NAFTA, unlimited immigration, etc., were NOT opposed by the Republican Party. The Republican Party willingly bought into these Liberal (Socialist/Communist) policies and voted them into law. This can NOT be denied or blamed on Democrats. No BS excuses about who controlled congress or who was in the White House. The Republicans are equally responsible for the atrocious State Of The Union. The ONLY way off this One Way Street to Communism is to Rebuild the Republican Party from the ground up. Dump the Liberal-Minded politicians (virtually ALL of them). Welcome into the GOP the "Tea Party", Libertarians, Constitutionalists and True Conservatives such as Ron Paul and his huge following. Return to the ROOTS of Conservatism, or surrender to Socialism and soon after, Communism. Won't work AT ALL |
| I Ban Thee (OP) User ID: 21926529 United States11/08/2012 07:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Liberalism and Neo-Conism. When a Conservative Party adopts Liberal policies, a Liberal mindset and Liberal "Frontmen", then it is doomed to failure (see election results). The "Republicans" tried to move to the LEFT and fight the DemocRats on their own turf. The result was a near landslide of electoral votes. Quoting: I Ban Thee It's time to rebuild the Republican Party or dismiss it to the ashcan of history. A Liberal Republican Party is guaranteed to fail... the next election will be worse if Liberal thinking continues to dominate the party. The country has been flooded with Illegals from all over the world. The economy has been decimated by NAFTA, GATT and other "One World" policies, thereby creating millions of Socialist voters. Make NO mistake... the Globalist ideas such as NAFTA, unlimited immigration, etc., were NOT opposed by the Republican Party. The Republican Party willingly bought into these Liberal (Socialist/Communist) policies and voted them into law. This can NOT be denied or blamed on Democrats. No BS excuses about who controlled congress or who was in the White House. The Republicans are equally responsible for the atrocious State Of The Union. The ONLY way off this One Way Street to Communism is to Rebuild the Republican Party from the ground up. Dump the Liberal-Minded politicians (virtually ALL of them). Welcome into the GOP the "Tea Party", Libertarians, Constitutionalists and True Conservatives such as Ron Paul and his huge following. Return to the ROOTS of Conservatism, or surrender to Socialism and soon after, Communism. Won't work AT ALL But I'm sure which ever brand of Liberalism/Socialism YOU like, will work, right? |
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| I Ban Thee (OP) User ID: 21926529 United States11/08/2012 07:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree the Republuican party needs to be torn apart as it is today... There is no diffence between the left or the right. Quoting: Steve8511 But the whole system isn't working so it maybe a lost cause. The Constitution is dead.... You've been listening to too much Liberalism Steve. The Constitution is being attacked, for sure, by Liberals in BOTH major parties. But dead? Not quite yet Steve. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27299045 United States11/08/2012 07:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27299045 They are dying because they have ignored the middle class and embraced brown nosing the elite..... Period. In my opinion, you are both right... to an extent. You say "Republican" when you SHOULD be saying "Liberal Wing of the Republican Party". You can't white wash all Republicans with one brush. We have let the Liberal/NeoCons run this show for FAR TOO LONG. The True Conservative Republicans, or at least the ones with any guts and going to see that our Party is restored. Immediately. I too was a Republican until I could no longer stomach the blatant brown nosing of the elite. The clincher was when I observed first hand the fraud and down right illegal activity that many of these "conservative" folks perpetrated daily. Social security disability fraud, child support fraud,tax fraud, intimidation etc. etc. etc. They are hypocrites . I'm not asserting that these activities don't occur within other partis. They do. But for the Republicans and their Tea Party to take a stand portraying themselves as upright ,Christian,law abiding citizens is a JOKE!!! And so... you're now a Liberal? LOL! Wake up and do something. Call out the people (Liberal Republicans) that "brown nose" the elite, commit fraud. Surely you don't want to be a Liberal, do you? Who do you call them out to? Their Republican judges ,and law enforcement cronies. People who have "called them out" as you suggest end up "unemployable " or "missing" or have "accidents". |
| I Ban Thee (OP) User ID: 21926529 United States11/08/2012 07:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: I Ban Thee In my opinion, you are both right... to an extent. You say "Republican" when you SHOULD be saying "Liberal Wing of the Republican Party". You can't white wash all Republicans with one brush. We have let the Liberal/NeoCons run this show for FAR TOO LONG. The True Conservative Republicans, or at least the ones with any guts and going to see that our Party is restored. Immediately. I too was a Republican until I could no longer stomach the blatant brown nosing of the elite. The clincher was when I observed first hand the fraud and down right illegal activity that many of these "conservative" folks perpetrated daily. Social security disability fraud, child support fraud,tax fraud, intimidation etc. etc. etc. They are hypocrites . I'm not asserting that these activities don't occur within other partis. They do. But for the Republicans and their Tea Party to take a stand portraying themselves as upright ,Christian,law abiding citizens is a JOKE!!! And so... you're now a Liberal? LOL! Wake up and do something. Call out the people (Liberal Republicans) that "brown nose" the elite, commit fraud. Surely you don't want to be a Liberal, do you? Who do you call them out to? Their Republican judges ,and law enforcement cronies. People who have "called them out" as you suggest end up "unemployable " or "missing" or have "accidents". There comes a time my friend, when we have to overcome this fear. That time arrives when you realize it is not YOU that will suffer horrible distress, loss of Freedom, etc., but when you see that it is your children and grandchildren who will bear the torture of a One World Government. I do sympathize with that feeling of "unknown fear". It is something our "Masters" have instilled in us via Mass Media, Hollywood, "News" and wars, etc. As far as "who do you call them out to"? No, I don't think trying to shout down Judges, Politicians or Hollywood "Stars" will accomplish anything. You're right, you will be made an example of. BUT, you can help educate a neighbor, friend, relative or even strangers on open (for now) web sites like this. Educating others is our only hope. Peace. |
| Grimlock User ID: 24724814 United States11/08/2012 07:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just to clear up the ridiculousness in this thread... 1. Obama is not a communist or socialist at all. It is clear most of you have no clue what either of those words mean. 2. The person who said that the republican party is too liberal is out of touch with reality. The problem with the GOP is that they have based their party around religious bigotry and being generally against civil rights. The hay day for this kind of thinking has past. 3. The GOP has to do a few things. They need to embrace the libertarians and essentially move to the libertarian platform. This is will be huge for the GOP with the young vote because young adults love Ron Paul and the liberty movement. The GOP must also ditch all of the anti gay marriage, anti marijuana, anti abortion crap if they ever want to get people other than old white males to vote for them. Just FYI, I do not support Obama, Romney, or any political party. I didn't vote on Tuesday because there was noone to vote for. A vote for the left or right is a vote for endless war, and the erosion of civil rights. I voted in the primary for Ron Paul, and I do not see myself voting for a republican candidate anytime soon. Wanna get serious about fixing the GOP? Abortion, Gay marriage, legal marijuana, libertarian platform is the recipe. |
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| I Ban Thee (OP) User ID: 21926529 United States11/08/2012 08:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just to clear up the ridiculousness in this thread... Quoting: Grimlock 24724814 1. Obama is not a communist or socialist at all. It is clear most of you have no clue what either of those words mean. 2. The person who said that the republican party is too liberal is out of touch with reality. The problem with the GOP is that they have based their party around religious bigotry and being generally against civil rights. The hay day for this kind of thinking has past. 3. The GOP has to do a few things. They need to embrace the libertarians and essentially move to the libertarian platform. This is will be huge for the GOP with the young vote because young adults love Ron Paul and the liberty movement. The GOP must also ditch all of the anti gay marriage, anti marijuana, anti abortion crap if they ever want to get people other than old white males to vote for them. Just FYI, I do not support Obama, Romney, or any political party. I didn't vote on Tuesday because there was noone to vote for. A vote for the left or right is a vote for endless war, and the erosion of civil rights. I voted in the primary for Ron Paul, and I do not see myself voting for a republican candidate anytime soon. Wanna get serious about fixing the GOP? Abortion, Gay marriage, legal marijuana, libertarian platform is the recipe. You are right on it Grimlock! The GOP needs to run like a rabbit back to Conservatism, or Libertarianism (either one works for me). A Conservative Republican (or Libertarian or Constitu- tionalist) should study what it TRULY means to be Conservative. Dr. Paul nailed it almost perfectly. I personally prefer to use the word Conservative instead of Libertarian because so man view themselves as Conservative, but have a problem with "Libertarian". That's OK, we need everyone back under the GOP tent, we can rationally discuss our issues then. I see the One World Government/United Nations scheme as a ruse for Communism. The "big" politicans, Obama, Bush, Romney etc. take their marching orders from them. Let's focus on what we AGREE on for now, ok? Cheers! |
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| Truthache User ID: 1465537 United States11/08/2012 08:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's going to take blood spilled to change this corrupt fucked up system. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27302157 No it will not. They would love for you to attack them physically, they relish the thought. All you have to do is withdraw from the system until it starves. Independence is all it takes. When you don't give a thing what it needs, it dies. in warm pursuit... |
| I Ban Thee (OP) User ID: 21926529 United States11/08/2012 08:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's going to take blood spilled to change this corrupt fucked up system. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27302157 No it will not. They would love for you to attack them physically, they relish the thought. All you have to do is withdraw from the system until it starves. Independence is all it takes. When you don't give a thing what it needs, it dies. . "All you have to do is withdraw from the system until it starves. Independence is all it takes. When you don't give a thing what it needs, it dies." ^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ |
| Mr. D User ID: 4603964 United States11/08/2012 08:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Mr. D 4603964 FUCK YOU, FUCK YOU, FUCK YOU Traitorous fucking pieces of shit! You deserve what you got, you deserve "what you received in the end" and "much, much more" Do you really believe that all you will get is the loss of a presidential election for the abominations that have been perpetrated in the name of "Freedom"? You fucking traitorous cocks sucking criminal scumbags have only begun to see the end of your entire political party as a political force in the United States of America for your treasonous, traitorous deeds and behavior "in the name of an election year". I for one can not wait until a new political party emerges out of your traitorous piece of shit ashes who will shit, piss and spit on your "collective" political graves. Justice is so sweet, Thank GOD you pieces of excrement lost. There is justice.....and much more on the way. Target identified, Fire , on the way..... and call for fire on you fucking traitors, fire for effect. Prediction: You're going to die in a pile of your own feces, toothless and screaming at the Obamacare nurse that you demand service! That you deserve care and help! And she won't hear you, because the Obamacare hospice nurse only comes by once every 24 hours...  It was the last tank battle for a reason...., no more "Re p u b lic a ns. Yes , I know I should spell it out for you however i won't because it is a need to know basis and you do not need to know. What I will say is that Neocons committed Treason to justify the rape and pillaging of The United States of America because of greed and other things. An Army of one. You will never understand....fucking traitors. Take a deep breath, relax, and read some of my posts. I agree that Neocons (NOT Republicans in general) are guilty of warmongering along with dividing the Republicans into two camps, "Progressive"/Liberal and Conservative. Warmongering is not what Conservatism is about. Many of us were tricked by these Neocons, many Democrats too. In my opinion, Strength is being powerful militarily but NOT inflicting our military might into the affairs of other Sovereign Nations without cause. At one time, the USA was the most powerful in the world AND got support and admiration from almost all other countries by presenting a face of character. Others were DRAWN to us - because of how we behaved and how we treated our own countrymen AND foreign nations. This has all changed now to modern Imperialism - Foreign Relations at the point of a gun barrel. The blame should be on Neocons and Ultra-Liberals. They (Neo cons)have harmed the Republican party more than the democrats ever could have by highjacking the Tea party and turning into a circus. As if that was not bad enough, they destroyed Ron Paul who was their best shot to win the Election. They did whatever they could to harm this country and now the war for our guns will begin. They (The Neocons)have basically destroyed the Republican party like a mole from the inside out and now the Democrats will work with the United Nations to dismantle the Constitution piece by piece.(or try to). Good Job Neocons(end sarcasm). |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1234641 United States11/08/2012 08:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | GOP is going the way of the Whig party and no one is going to stop it. There are not enough angry white males remaining to save it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26826806 No one wants to save the Republican party. The democrats became Communist progressives, the Republicans became Democrats. Beginning with the results of this election, those voters who gave the Republicans one last chance have already defected to the Libertarian party. I say good riddance to Repubs. I for one will never waste a vote for Republican again. I am now a Libertarian. Join me. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8668963 United States11/08/2012 09:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, I'm a registered Repub. They have moved to the left as the Democrats have moved FAR left to get votes. It's called the 'Overton Window'. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21277120 The GOP is DEAD on ARRIVAL. I'm an Independent Conservative......plain and simple. Exactly. It has been suggested that Republicans move to the center but they cannot. The Overton Window is moving leftward at a faster pace than the Republicans can move to the "old" center. Bigger govt. and increased entitlements only accelerate the process. THAT is why Obamacare was SO IMPORTANT to the Democrats and their primary focus for the first 2 years. I'm an Independent Constitutional Conservative and may have cast my last of many Republican votes, if I have a viable option. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8668963 United States11/08/2012 09:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look you can't win against a Santa Claus incumbent candidate favored by the MSM. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1202994 Then you are the one with the harsh ideas such as having a budget each year. Smaller and less intrusive government, less taxes, strong defense, stronger local government compared to federal and state. If 50% of the country are on the dole and will just vote for Santa this just means the USA is over…they just have a few more credit cards to max out first. A good friend of mine that is 10 years my senior, and conservative, agrees with your assessment 100%. |
| TechRaider User ID: 8668963 United States11/08/2012 09:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 5***** and  Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may. Sam Houston "The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." Thomas Jefferson If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed. -- Mark Twain Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and keys to teenage boys. -- P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian |
| TechRaider User ID: 8668963 United States11/08/2012 09:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually if Obama and the democrats don't get the US economy out of the hole they have spent it into in the next 4 years the democratic party will evaporate. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27179418 How far down does the country sink before voters are convinced that there really isn't a Santa Clause? Greece? Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may. Sam Houston "The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." Thomas Jefferson If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed. -- Mark Twain Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and keys to teenage boys. -- P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian |
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| TechRaider User ID: 8668963 United States11/08/2012 10:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Liberalism and Neo-Conism. When a Conservative Party adopts Liberal policies, a Liberal mindset and Liberal "Frontmen", then it is doomed to failure (see election results). The "Republicans" tried to move to the LEFT and fight the DemocRats on their own turf. The result was a near landslide of electoral votes. Quoting: I Ban Thee It's time to rebuild the Republican Party or dismiss it to the ashcan of history. A Liberal Republican Party is guaranteed to fail... the next election will be worse if Liberal thinking continues to dominate the party. The country has been flooded with Illegals from all over the world. The economy has been decimated by NAFTA, GATT and other "One World" policies, thereby creating millions of Socialist voters. Make NO mistake... the Globalist ideas such as NAFTA, unlimited immigration, etc., were NOT opposed by the Republican Party. The Republican Party willingly bought into these Liberal (Socialist/Communist) policies and voted them into law. This can NOT be denied or blamed on Democrats. No BS excuses about who controlled congress or who was in the White House. The Republicans are equally responsible for the atrocious State Of The Union. The ONLY way off this One Way Street to Communism is to Rebuild the Republican Party from the ground up. Dump the Liberal-Minded politicians (virtually ALL of them). Welcome into the GOP the "Tea Party", Libertarians, Constitutionalists and True Conservatives such as Ron Paul and his huge following. Return to the ROOTS of Conservatism, or surrender to Socialism and soon after, Communism. Republicans moved to the LEFT?! Please tell me you are joking. Republicans moved so far to the right that are practically at neo-nazi Golden Dawn levels. [link to politicalcompass.org] This is a perfect example of the Overton Window on a race track to the left. Pedal to the metal leftward that Republicans have little chance of ever catching the runaway "center" with conservative loyalty. Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may. Sam Houston "The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." Thomas Jefferson If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed. -- Mark Twain Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and keys to teenage boys. -- P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian |
| TechRaider User ID: 8668963 United States11/08/2012 10:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually if Obama and the democrats don't get the US economy out of the hole they have spent it into in the next 4 years the democratic party will evaporate. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27179418 Yeah, BushCheney crashed the whole damned Earth over and 8 year period and we're PISSED that Obama didn't fix it in 4 years. Cause we all know that it is much easier and quicker to clean up a mess than it is to make the mess. GodDamn Republicans. Geo. Bush, the gift that keeps on giving, 4 more years? Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may. Sam Houston "The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." Thomas Jefferson If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed. -- Mark Twain Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and keys to teenage boys. -- P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27142624 Mexico11/08/2012 10:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The demographics have changed and will continue to change. The thing is, those demographics tend to favor the Democratic Party. I don't think your idea of going further right is going to win any big elections any time...probably ever again. Best chance with that strategy might be keeping the house, but Senate races, as well as the Presidency will be off limits. The Republican Party cannot continue to poll 30% of latinos, 3% of blacks, and give the Dems 60% (almost) of women. Your formula (Libertarians, Constitutionalists????? Really, what is that like 3% of likely voters????) makes no difference in the changing America. White male voters will increasingly make up less of the electorate. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8464481 Sorry, but your idea is horrible. You're not thinking my friend! Screw demographics, percentages of races, who controls the House and all of that. We are talking here of just simply being what made this Great Nation what it is (Conservatism) and throwing off that ideology (Liberalism) that has brought us to our knees. Do you remember when the people of the world REVERED the USA? I do! And I know why it did, too. We are at a dangerous CROSSROADS. The literal Devil waits at the end of the short road. We must stop and completely rethink what made the USA great. People who consider themselves Liberal will flock to to be part of another Great USA "revival". Not if you dont know how to respectfully discuss politics with them. Calling them "Commies", trash, traitors, etc. closes the door to their recruitment. As a fundamentalist party, Repubs expect complete mea culpa and submission to the party line. The Dem party is very different in that its constituents are constantly criticizing their leadership. It's more DYNAMIC. Mind you, I want a complete overhaul of the two party duopoly, perhaps something like a Labor Party capturing the Dem's left side, and the Dem gobbling up the Republican party altogether. If the Dem party cant entice the former Repub constituents then it will also be doomed, and some other political party of conservatives will, no doubt, spring up. |
| TechRaider User ID: 8668963 United States11/08/2012 10:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | GOP is going the way of the Whig party and no one is going to stop it. There are not enough angry white males remaining to save it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26826806 No one wants to save the Republican party. The democrats became Communist progressives, the Republicans became Democrats. Beginning with the results of this election, those voters who gave the Republicans one last chance have already defected to the Libertarian party. I say good riddance to Repubs. I for one will never waste a vote for Republican again. I am now a Libertarian. Join me. Sign me up! Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may. Sam Houston "The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." Thomas Jefferson If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed. -- Mark Twain Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and keys to teenage boys. -- P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25028055 United States11/08/2012 10:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That is all, not conservatism, although that is a needed component. If you lose white people, you lose conservatism. Whites are individualistic, the other races are not. Hence why they form groups or packs and they are always a more " hive" mind. They will never be individualistic enough to become conservative. Relax, there is only one party now. accept it. You cannot take back the racial bomb going off in the country. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25028055 United States11/08/2012 10:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | GOP is going the way of the Whig party and no one is going to stop it. There are not enough angry white males remaining to save it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26826806 No one wants to save the Republican party. The democrats became Communist progressives, the Republicans became Democrats. Beginning with the results of this election, those voters who gave the Republicans one last chance have already defected to the Libertarian party. I say good riddance to Repubs. I for one will never waste a vote for Republican again. I am now a Libertarian. Join me. Sign me up! I am with you. The rethuglicans are a complete waste. Have note seen anything good from them in DECADES. |
| I Ban Thee (OP) User ID: 21926529 United States11/08/2012 05:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | GOP is going the way of the Whig party and no one is going to stop it. There are not enough angry white males remaining to save it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26826806 No one wants to save the Republican party. The democrats became Communist progressives, the Republicans became Democrats. Beginning with the results of this election, those voters who gave the Republicans one last chance have already defected to the Libertarian party. I say good riddance to Repubs. I for one will never waste a vote for Republican again. I am now a Libertarian. Join me. You should have read these posts. We KNOW about Libertarians. MANY Repubs are Libertarians. It's semantics. We need to band together under the CONSERVATIVE banner, regardless of what you label the party. |
| I Ban Thee (OP) User ID: 21926529 United States11/08/2012 05:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The demographics have changed and will continue to change. The thing is, those demographics tend to favor the Democratic Party. I don't think your idea of going further right is going to win any big elections any time...probably ever again. Best chance with that strategy might be keeping the house, but Senate races, as well as the Presidency will be off limits. The Republican Party cannot continue to poll 30% of latinos, 3% of blacks, and give the Dems 60% (almost) of women. Your formula (Libertarians, Constitutionalists????? Really, what is that like 3% of likely voters????) makes no difference in the changing America. White male voters will increasingly make up less of the electorate. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8464481 Sorry, but your idea is horrible. You're not thinking my friend! Screw demographics, percentages of races, who controls the House and all of that. We are talking here of just simply being what made this Great Nation what it is (Conservatism) and throwing off that ideology (Liberalism) that has brought us to our knees. Do you remember when the people of the world REVERED the USA? I do! And I know why it did, too. We are at a dangerous CROSSROADS. The literal Devil waits at the end of the short road. We must stop and completely rethink what made the USA great. People who consider themselves Liberal will flock to to be part of another Great USA "revival". Not if you dont know how to respectfully discuss politics with them. Calling them "Commies", trash, traitors, etc. closes the door to their recruitment. As a fundamentalist party, Repubs expect complete mea culpa and submission to the party line. The Dem party is very different in that its constituents are constantly criticizing their leadership. It's more DYNAMIC. Mind you, I want a complete overhaul of the two party duopoly, perhaps something like a Labor Party capturing the Dem's left side, and the Dem gobbling up the Republican party altogether. If the Dem party cant entice the former Repub constituents then it will also be doomed, and some other political party of conservatives will, no doubt, spring up. I call people who subscribe to Socialism "Commies" because they don't seem to understand that Socialism is the DESIGNED precursor TO Communism. Socialism and Communism are real. Most people are brainwashed into thinking that Socialism is just some benign option to a "Democracy", when it is in fact, designed and planned to be the stepping stone to Communism. People need a wake up call. Communism is a CANCER that spreads quietly inside it's host government. I understand there are problems within the Republican Party also. Returning to a Conservative platform solves the majority of those issues. We must NEVER forget that the USA government was created as a Democratic Republic, not a Democracy, not Socialism, not Oligarchy, etc. THIS is the reason the USA rose to great heights so quickly and had MOST countries in the world wanting to be like the USA and adopt our form of government and enjoy our Freedoms. Again, the NAME of the party of True Conservatives is completely IRRELEVANT. Many people seem to have problems disassociating "Republican" from Conservative. I want to see Conservatives banded together ONCE AGAIN, free of Liberalism and NeoConism. Thank you for posting. |
| I Ban Thee (OP) User ID: 21926529 United States11/08/2012 05:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whites make a country great. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25028055 That is all, not conservatism, although that is a needed component. If you lose white people, you lose conservatism. Whites are individualistic, the other races are not. Hence why they form groups or packs and they are always a more " hive" mind. They will never be individualistic enough to become conservative. Relax, there is only one party now. accept it. You cannot take back the racial bomb going off in the country. You read the title of this thread and jumped in with a comment. I wish you would have read some of the posts. This entire thread is about encouraging Conservatives to re-think their attitudes toward Liberal thinking. There is "one party now" you say? Surely you jest! With only a couple of million votes separating two candidates, you say "there is only one party now". That is a totally irrational or un-thought out comment. Please re-think that my friend. |
