Why don't Christians and other denominations get it yet, Jesus is a way to God, not the only way to God!!!!!

I actually really like that video and LOVE the classical music that goes with it. Beautiful.

Acts 4:12 There is salvation in no one else! God has given no other name under heaven by which we must be saved."

1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus

uhhhhhhh did you just judge someone? you fuked up,we cast the pearls to everyone for no one is swine...

Do you truly understand that? That consciousness is the mediator, which opens the pineal gland.

we got another copy machine scanning the surface again and spitting out copies and cant re-translate from spirits view...it must not have a spirit...

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did the copy machine miss this pearl we throwed?

...test the spirits to see if they be of god the concept or they be of spirit...there's you another pearl..

Oh so your conscious spirit made your flesh and u can decide to be locked in it. Give me a break if what u were saying is true wouldn't you want to go back to your spirit this whole time? Or are u just gna spout some other ignorant mumbo jumbo. YOU WERE CREATED. period. That means you have a CREATOR.

Time is short. It's going to be time to lay your cards on the table. It's the world, or God. U choose.

here's the second verse translated> for there is one creator and one spirit between creator and flesh,the spirit Christ Jesus...you copy machines still dont know the word Jesus is symbolism of all flesh and Christ means spirit in all of us...do you need some more ink to keep copying,for that's all flesh can do without the spirit...

yes and i as spirit will cause my flesh to tell you how...when 2 or 3 are gathered in my name(the name is spirit) there i<the spirit) will be in the midst of them...translation> i as spirit came together with 2 other arks which contains spirit and we together formed the ark i choose to dwell in to tour the creation again...,lol..i keep my authority,i do not give it to no concept we as spirit created through the flesh...my flesh follows its spirit,my spirit doesn't follow a concept created later...

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lol, o.k. I'll play poker with you.

I see your sun video and think your going all new-agey on me!

Let's stick with real historical facts and the literal walking, breathing, miracle working man who was written about by secular historians.

Here's my next move -

Eyewitness accounts from non-biblical sources
Thread: The Physical Appearance of Jesus - Eyewitness accounts (non-biblical) from those who actually saw Him

you soultards aint gonna bind me here you stay if you wish,I'm free to tour the universe after this shell cant hold the spirit any longer...the flesh is weak and cant hold the co-creator spirit for long periods at a time so we must create new ones to incarnate into...i as spirit have overcome the creation... see ya ,i wouldn't want to be blinded by the light when we can shine it outwards...

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Astrotheology is not 'new-agey', it's nearly as 'old school' as you can get! : )

The reason the story of Jesus in the bible mimics that of previous savior/messiah myths from cultures that predated the alleged time of Jesus is because they were all based on astrotheology and describing the movment of the SUN! 12 Disciples / Born of a Virgin/ Crucifiction & Resurrection 3 days later and all! Check into it, it all ties together nicely.

Who wouldn't love the SUN? : )

...dont be blinded by the light,let your light shine forth...i have eyes to see my spirit within and ears to hear my spirit within...i am blind to concepts created by our spirit that lead away from our spirit and i am deaf to the concepts that lead away from our spirit,that were created by our spirit through our flesh...

later co-creators going to get up early and watch my oldest grandson who just turned 7 and has the secret of the universe/Sacred geometry as his birthday>11-9 aka KI/potassium iodide, learn basketball by the "rules" in the morning...yeah even my first has potassium iodide already in his life to clean the flesh so the spirit can shine through...coincidence,i think not, since I'm a free-masonic Ta'veren to use a concept to describe me besides co-creator spirit...

The thread's talking about the man Jesus, not the Sun.

Have you checked out the literal man named Jesus about whom secular historians wrote about and the claims that Jesus made about himself?

Oh, and yeah I love the Sun, still have my tan!

[link to beginningandend.com]

Your scripture was written by liars and heathens and the Catholic Church

Awake to the truth
Knowing God of love, I stand by my truth
Peace and oneness blessing
Your time is over
Transform or recycle

The sun is Jesus, haven't you figuredit out yet

Jehovah is Jupiter

The rabbit hole runs deep friend. 'Jesus' in the bible is not what he was portrayed to be. The savior/messiah mythology that predated Christianity tells of the same virgin birth and the same crucifixion and resurrection, why? Why would they share the same details across different cultures & time?

Doesn't the bible teach that 'God' is within you? So how can could 'God' have incarnated alongside the creation when the very same text teaches that 'God' is within? No saviors/messiahs required, the 'kingdom of heaven' is within you. The stories of the bible contained veiled messages/teachings about the evolution of one's consciousness to find that 'kingdom' within. Parable/allegory/metaphors/symbolism. There was no burning bush speaking to Moses and 'God' did not tear a rib out of Adam to create Eve. : )

Through mistranslation, manipulation, and literal misinterpretation by man, the original teachings have been lost to the masses. : (


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It is sometimes forgotten that the early Christians associated Jesus with the Sun. Among the church fathers, Cyprian speaks of Christ as Sol Verus, the "true sun," and Ambrose names him Sol Novus Noster, "our new sun". An interesting fact revealed in the old Roman calendars is that on the 25th of December each year they commemorated the new birth of Sol Invictus, the "unconquered sun." These early Christians used many hymns addressed to the Christ-Sun or to the Christos-Spirit, or to the Logos or Word. These terms were taken from the ancient Greek Mysteries; and the composition of these hymns, and the words could easily be construed as hymns to the sun. Which indeed was exactly what they were.
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I realize everyone will only seek out what feels right for them so I am only sharing what I have found and respect what others choose to believe.

Peace and blessings to all Christians
God help them know in their mind that we are one and reincarnation is fact
Thank Universal Creator of Unconditional love

Have a good one Jack.

The Sun is an allegory or picture of Jesus, not the other way around. This is exactly how various cultures twisted the original oral creation account passed down from Adam onward. The oral account was diluted, added to, changed, twisted as Satan, the god of this world influenced cultures. That's why God through Men inspired by His Holy Spirit Wrote His Account Down in the Holy Bible which he preserved in the original Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic scrolls. Read about the Dead Sea Scrolls some time.

And Jesus indeed did say " the kingom of God is within you" Luke 17. This literally reads in the greek is 'among' you, meaning Jesus was among them. Later on Jesus as he was leaving after his resurrection and asending back to heaven said that he would send the Holy Spirit. All believers have the Holy Spirit living in their spirits... "For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost." Rom. 14:17 He was talking to the parasees in Luke 17 and we know they didn't have the "kingdom of God" within them, only those who have received Jesus and his gift of the Holy Spirit have the kingdom of God living within them.

Thanks for the conversation Anhedonic and for this thread Jacksprat...

Peace and Blessing to you both through our saviour and creator Jesus Christ and God the Father.

Have a great Saturday, hope you do something fun.

Religion...the only thing that always stands in the way of progress.

Then maybe. they are NOT sacred.

The world's religions and philosophies are so different that it's not possible that they are all right. It would be illogical to say otherwise. There is order in the world as established by the creator so why in the heck would the creator depart from said order and make our journey a chaotic spiritual free for all?

And being one who created beautiful things that sustain us why would the creator depart from that sort of care and concern just to leave us guessing about the most important thing in life (the way to God). It would be more consistent with his/her character to make the way discoverable and knowable behind a shadow of a doubt.

What makes more sense is that the creator would let people know what is true. So the thing to do is figure that out; otherwise, you are your own god by picking and choosing what sounds good to you, which is not what is necessarily true. The many roads to God argument is the ultimate deception.

As a Norse Pagan I beg to differ. Your filth cling to this site like flies to dung. You have been spouting your traitorous lies for nearly two thousand years and raped the culture of Europe, polluting with your Roman stink. I blame Charlemagne largely for the atrocities that led to the surrender of western Europe to the "holy" Roman Empire which led to the mass "convert or die" phase of Europe. Think about it: The entire basis, existence, and spread of your foreign jew religion is the spilled blood of my people. You wonder why people like me hate your religion so much? This is why. You claim that your god is benevolent and yet the only christians at the time of this massacre were violent. No matter what you claim about christianity the fact of the matter is that it would have faded into obscurity were it not for forced conversions and a continental ban of the Old Ways. So yes I hate your religion, your god, and everything that they stand for. When Odin hangs your tyrant father for the last time he will not rise. Ragnarok is coming soon and I will enjoy watching your god die with the rest of them. Mine will die to but at least we won't be on our knees begging for deliverance. When the world begins the cycle of rebirth I will die fighting. No paradise awaits you coward.

or perhaps the assertion - my way or the highway- is flawed. flawed in that it places restrictions on an omnipotent deity.

a god who can create countless grains of sand, yet not one a copy of the next.
or 6 billion humans on the same planet, however no two exactly alike.

to my mind this god could certainly be capable of authorizing a multitude of ways for people to worship him.

Jesus is the ONLY WAY to HIS FATHER. True.

Capable...yes, but what he/she is capable of really doesn't matter. It's what he/she did and will do, and that is discoverable. I'm not going to tell everyone here what I believe. It could be anything. What is significant to ponder is what is the creator's character, and what way to the creator is consistent with who he/she is?

All the wrong ways to God are flawed by dependence on the self to achieve a certain something (such as observing specific requirements or trying to be a good enough person or reaching a certain state or any other number of things). So again, I give you the many ways to God paradigm and what it really points to: self worship. And that leads to no need for God, so where does that leave us? And where does that leave the creator?