Secession threads are funny

I just cannot help but take another jab at your ignorance in that plagiarism remark. It is very dumb. Cited quotes != plagiarism, dummy.

Anyhow, do not let me interupt your little revolt. It should be good for a laugh.

"The Trilateral Commission is intended to be the vehicle for multinational consolidation of the
commercial and banking interests by seizing control of the political government of the United States.
The Trilateral Commission represents a skillful, coordinated effort to seize control and consolidate
the four centers of power--Political, Monetary, Intellectual, and Ecclesiastical."--U.S. Senator
Barry Goldwater from his 1964 book "No Apologies"


"I believe that if the people of this nation fully understood what Congress has done to them over the last 49 years, they would move on Washington; they would not wait for an election....It adds up
to a preconceived plan to destroy the economic and social independence of the United States!"
--George W. Malone, U.S. Senator (Nevada), speaking before Congress in1957.


"The invisible Money Power is working to control and enslave mankind. It financed
Communism, Fascism, Marxism, Zionism, Socialism. All of these are directed to making the United
States a member of a World Government ..." -- AMERICAN MERCURY MAGAZINE, December 1957, pg. 92.


"The Air Force is suffering from pilots who have lost faith in their generals, jet engines that still
don't work after repairs and maintenance depots with 'little quality or quantity of work being
produced', according to an internal Defense Department memorandum. The draft memo paints a
troubling picture of the state of American air power. 'The sad state of air-force readiness can be
blamed on the Clinton Administration, which treats the military as a toy to be deployed for
meals-on-wheels-type missions without due consideration for it's impact on readiness", said Robert
Maginnis, a retired Army Lieutenant colonel and an analyst at the conservative Family Research
Council


"The International government of the United Nations, stripped of it's legal trimming, then, is
really the International Government of the United States and the Soviet Union acting in Unison."
From the American Jewish Committee's official magazine "Commentary" of Nov. 1958, Pg. 376


"War to the hilt between communism and capitalism is inevitable. Today of course, we are not
strong enough to attack. Our time will come in 20 or 30 years...The Bourgeoisie will have to be
put to sleep. So we shall begin by launching the most spectacular peace movement on record.
There will be electrifying overtures and unheard of concessions. The capitalist countries, stupid
and decadent, will rejoice to cooperate in their own destruction. They will leap at another chance
to be friends. As soon as their guard is down, we shall smash them with our clinched fist."
Dimitry Z. Manuilsky in a speech made in 1931 before the Lenin School of Political Warfare.
(He became an officer of the U.N. Security Council in 1949)


"We must realize that we cannot co-exist eternally. One of us must go to his grave. We do not
want to go to the grave. They do not want to go to the grave, either. So what can be done? We
must push them to their grave." -- Sewren Bailer, a polish communist leader, who defected to the
west, charged that in April, 1955 Khrushchev said this to a group of Warsaw Communists.


"We operate here under directives which emulate (sic) from the White House ... The substance of the directives under which we operate is that we shall use our grant making power to alter life in the United States so that we can comfortably be merged with the Soviet Union." -- Rowan Gaither, President of the Ford Foundation, 1954.


"The old world order changed when this war-storm broke. The old international order passed away as suddenly, as unexpectedly, and as completely as if it had been wiped out by a gigantic flood, by a great tempest, or by a volcanic eruption. The old world order died with the setting of that day's sun and a new world order is being born while I speak, with birth-pangs so terrible that it seems almost incredible that life could come out of such fearful suffering and such overwhelming sorrow." -- Nicholas Murray Butler, in an address delivered before the Union League of Philadelphia, Nov. 27, 1915


"The peace conference has assembled. It will make the most momentous decisions in history, and upon these decisions will rest the stability of the new world order and the future peace of the world." -M. C. Alexander, Executive Secretary of the American Association for International Conciliation, in a subscription letter for the periodical International Conciliation (1919)


"If there are those who think we are to jump immediately into a new world order, actuated by complete understanding and brotherly love, they are doomed to disappointment. If we are ever to approach that time, it will be after patient and persistent effort of long duration. The present international situation of mistrust and fear can only be corrected by a formula of equal status, continuously applied, to every phase of international contacts, until the cobwebs of the old order are brushed out of the minds of the people of all lands." -- Dr. Augustus O. Thomas, president of the World Federation of Education Associations (August 1927), quoted in the book "International Understanding: Agencies Educating for a New World"
(1931)


"... when the struggle seems to be drifting definitely towards a world social democracy, there may still be very great delays and disappointments before it becomes an efficient and beneficent world system. Countless people ... will hate the new world order ... and will die protesting against it. When we attempt to evaluate its promise, we have to bear in mind the distress of a generation or so of malcontents, many of them quite gallant and graceful-looking people." -- H. G. Wells, in his book entitled "The New World Order" (1939)


"The term Internationalism has been popularized in recent years to cover an interlocking financial,
political, and economic world force for the purpose of establishing a World Government. Today
Internationalism is heralded from pulpit and platform as a 'League of Nations' or a 'Federated Union' to which the United States must surrender a definite part of its National Sovereignty. The World
Government plan is being advocated under such alluring names as the 'New International Order,' 'The
New World Order,' 'World Union Now,' 'World Commonwealth of Nations,' 'World Community,' etc. All the terms have the same objective; however, the line of approach may be religious or political according to the taste or training of the individual." -- excerpt from A Memorial to be Addressed to the House of Bishops and the House of Clerical and Lay Deputies of the Protestant Episcopal Church in General Convention (October 1940)


"In the first public declaration on the Jewish question since the outbreak of the war, Arthur Greenwood, member without portfolio in the British War Cabinet, assured the Jews of the United States that when victory was achieved an effort would be made to found a new world order based on the ideals of 'justice and peace.'" -excerpt from article entitled "New World Order Pledged to Jews," in the New York Times (October 1940)


"If totalitarianism wins this conflict, the world will be ruled by tyrants, and individuals will be slaves. If democracy wins, the nations of the earth will be united in a commonwealth of free peoples, and individuals, wherever found, will be the sovereign units of the new world order." -The Declaration of the Federation of the World, produced by the Congress on World Federation, adopted by the Legislatures of North Carolina (1941), New Jersey (1942), Pennsylvania (1943), and possibly other states.


"New World Order Needed for Peace: State Sovereignty Must Go, Declares Notre Dame Professor" -title of article in The Tablet (Brooklyn) (March 1942)


"Undersecretary of State Sumner Welles tonight called for the early creation of an international
organization of anti-Axis nations to control the world during the period between the armistice at the end of the present war and the setting up of a new world order on a permanent basis." -text of article in the Philadelphia Inquirer (June 1942)


"The statement went on to say that the spiritual teachings of religion must become the foundation for the new world order and that national sovereignty must be subordinate to the higher moral law of God." -- American Institute of Judaism, excerpt from article in the New York Times (December 1942)


"There are some plain common-sense considerations applicable to all these attempts at world planning. They can be briefly stated: 1. To talk of blueprints for the future or building a world order is, if properly understood, suggestive, but it is also dangerous. Societies grow far more truly than they are built. A constitution for a new world order is never like a blueprint for a skyscraper." -Norman Thomas, in his book "What Is Our Destiny" (1944)


"He [John Foster Dulles] stated directly to me that he had every reason to believe that the Governor [Thomas E. Dewey of New York] accepts his point of view and that he is personally convinced that this is the policy that he would promote with great vigor if elected. So it is fair to say that on the first round the Sphinx of Albany has established himself as a prima facie champion of a strong and definite new world order." -- excerpt from article by Ralph W. Page in the Philadelphia Bulletin (May 1944)


"The United Nations, he told an audience at Harvard University, 'has not been able--nor can it be able--to shape a new world order which events so compellingly demand.' ... The new world order that will answer economic, military, and political problems, he said, 'urgently requires, I believe, that the United States take the leadership among all free peoples to make the underlying concepts and aspirations of national sovereignty truly meaningful through the federal approach.'" -- Gov. Nelson Rockefeller of New York, in an article entitled "Rockefeller Bids Free Lands Unite: Calls at Harvard for Drive to Build New World Order" -- New York Times (February 1962)


"The developing coherence of Asian regional thinking is reflected in a disposition to consider problems and loyalties in regional terms, and to evolve regional approaches to development needs and to the evolution of a new world order." -- Richard Nixon, in Foreign Affairs (October 1967)


"He [President Nixon] spoke of the talks as a beginning, saying nothing more about the prospects for future contacts and merely reiterating the belief he brought to China that both nations share an interest in peace and building 'a new world order.'" -- excerpt from an article in the New York Times (February 1972)


"If instant world government, Charter review, and a greatly strengthened International Court do not provide the answers, what hope for progress is there? The answer will not satisfy those who seek simple solutions to complex problems, but it comes down essentially to this: The hope for the foreseeable lies, not in building up a few ambitious central institutions of universal membership and general jurisdiction as was envisaged at the end of the last war, but rather in the much more decentralized, disorderly and pragmatic process of inventing or adapting institutions of limited jurisdiction and selected membership to deal with specific problems on a case-by-case basis ... In short, the 'house of world order' will have to be built from the bottom up rather than from the top down. It will look like a great 'booming, buzzing confusion,' to use William James' famous description of reality, but an end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece, will accomplish much more than the old-fashioned frontal assault." -Richard N. Gardner, in Foreign Affairs (April 1974)


"The existing order is breaking down at a very rapid rate, and the main uncertainty is whether mankind can exert a positive role in shaping a new world order or is doomed to await collapse in a passive posture. We believe a new order will be born no later than early in the next century and that the death throes of the old and the birth pangs of the new will be a testing time for the human species." -- Richard A. Falk, in an article entitled "Toward a New World Order: Modest Methods and Drastic Visions," in the book "On the Creation of a Just World Order" (1975)


"My country's history, Mr. President, tells us that it is possible to fashion unity while cherishing diversity, that common action is possible despite the variety of races, interests, and beliefs we see here in this chamber. Progress and peace and justice are attainable. So we say to all peoples and governments: Let us fashion together a new world order." -- Henry Kissinger, in address before the General Assembly of the United Nations, October 1975)


"At the old Inter-American Office in the Commerce Building here in Roosevelt's time, as Assistant
Secretary of State for Latin American Affairs under President Truman, as chief whip with Adlai
Stevenson and Tom Finletter at the founding of the United Nations in San Francisco, Nelson Rockefeller was in the forefront of the struggle to establish not only an American system of political and economic security but a new world order." -- part of article in the New York Times (November 1975)


"A New World Order" -- title of article on commencement address at the University of Pennsylvania by Hubert H. Humphrey, printed in the Pennsylvania Gazette (June 1977)


"Further global progress is now possible only through a quest for universal consensus in the movement towards a new world order." -- Mikhail Gorbachev, in an address at the United Nations (December 1988)


"We believe we are creating the beginning of a new world order coming out of the collapse of the U.S.-Soviet antagonisms." -- Brent Scowcroft (August 1990), quoted in the Washington Post (May 1991)


"We can see beyond the present shadows of war in the Middle East to a new world order where the strong work together to deter and stop aggression. This was precisely Franklin Roosevelt's and Winston Churchill's vision for peace for the post-war period." -- Richard Gephardt, in the Wall Street Journal (September 1990)


"If we do not follow the dictates of our inner moral compass and stand up for human life, then his
lawlessness will threaten the peace and democracy of the emerging new world order we now see, this long dreamed-of vision we've all worked toward for so long." -- President George Bush (January 1991)


"But it became clear as time went on that in Mr. Bush's mind the New World Order was founded on a convergence of goals and interests between the U.S. and the Soviet Union, so strong and permanent that they would work as a team through the U.N. Security Council." -excerpt from A. M. Rosenthal, in the New York Times (January 1991)


"I would support a Presidential candidate who pledged to take the following steps: ... At the end of the war in the Persian Gulf, press for a comprehensive Middle East settlement and for a 'new world order' based not on Pax Americana but on peace through law with a stronger U.N. and World Court." -- George McGovern, in the New York Times (February 1991)


"... it's Bush's baby, even if he shares its popularization with Gorbachev. Forget the Hitler 'new order' root; F. D. R. used the phrase earlier." -- William Safire, in the New York Times (February 1991)


"How I Learned to Love the New World Order" -article by Sen. Joseph R. Biden, Jr. in the Wall Street Journal (April 1992)


"How to Achieve The New World Order" -title of book excerpt by Henry Kissinger, in Time magazine (March 1994)


"The Final Act of the Uruguay Round, marking the conclusion of the most ambitious trade negotiation of our century, will give birth - in Morocco - to the World Trade Organization, the third pillar of the New World Order, along with the United Nations and the International Monetary Fund." -- part of full-page advertisement by the government of Morocco in the New York Times (April 1994)


"New World Order: The Rise of the Region-State" -- title of article by Kenichi Ohmae, political reform leader in Japan, in the Wall Street Journal (August 1994)


The "new world order that is in the making must focus on the creation of a world of democracy, peace and prosperity for all." -- Nelson Mandela, in the Philadelphia Inquirer (October 1994)


The renewal of the nonproliferation treaty was described as important "for the welfare of the whole world and the new world order." -- President Hosni Mubarak of Egypt, in the New York Times (April 1995)


"Alchemy for a New World Order" -- article by Stephen John Stedman in Foreign Affairs (May/June
1995)


"We are not going to achieve a new world order without paying for it in blood as well as in words and money." -- Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., in Foreign Affairs (July/August 1995)

Just listen to yourself. Condescending asshole, go fuck yourself with all your deluded autodidact grift. I'd rather keep my own counsel and fight it out on my own than take into confidence a dickhead like you.

2 shay

^ Look folks. It's another limited vocabulary throwback of a voter. I look forward to seeing you and your kind on the evening news. You are totally controlled. The play the tune and you dance. You are all pissed off right on cue. Way to be your own man there, ranger.

Wow, I'm impressed, a hard drive full of pent up copy/paste quotes at the ready, gives new meaning to the phrase lock and loaded, lol.

You people do not buy anything says anyway no matter who says it. They could anounce on Fox News that the teams were on the way to line you up and you would not stop downloading porn long enough to post it on glp.

Yes, - I do know the definition of plagiarism. 'Using other people's ideas to promote an agenda that you will claim as your own', - maybe not Websters, but it will do.

And, yes; I do know about the inconsistencies in the historical presentation of the politics behind the origin and execution of the 'Civil War'.

I'm still asking why you consider threads that discuss secession are ''funny'.

Ignore the responses here and the independent media reports all over the web if you like, shill, - but you're witnessing a verbalization of mass dissatisfaction by those that ultimately will decide the future.

Ignore these signs at your peril, if you have banked on continuation of the status quo.

The times; they are a changing ...

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And by the way, the quotes go on forever and they are the proof along with all of the wars and your 16 trillion $ debt. So either you are a shill or a sheep. Either way you are useless to humanity.

They are quotes... BIG DIFFERENCE.

Pro tip: The name after the quote is the guy that originally said it.

I thought you were from Texas, Anonymous Coward?

So - you've officially bailed?

Have you renounced you citizenship?

So are you an American, or a dispossessed and disgruntled 'world-traveller' hippie?

1. By not citing where your definition of plagiarism came from you committed plagiarism unless you made it up yourself in which case it is invalid.

2. Secession is funny because you think it can happen.

3. Of course people are unhappy. Because they have been made unhappy according to the plan. So why did you let the federal government run up 16 trillion in debt? Why did you let Texas and other states run the aquifer dry? Why why why.
Be unhappy all you want. It will get you no where. If you do not know why then you cannot be helped and your fate awaits you.

4. Of course the status quo will not remain. I know it better than you and I have prepared. At least I know what iis involved. You are totally unequipped. You have yet to understand what you are up against. They control everything. They can start it in so many ways. Can you fight a microbe attack? Do you remember John Wheeler? He was better equipped than you. Didnt stop him from ending up in a Delaware landfill. Do you control the money supply? With the fil of a switch they can destroy your life savings. What will you do then? They do control the weather too, although you do not believe in such conspiracies. They told you there are no conspiracies.

YYou only think that times are changing. You cannnot see that their's are the hands that move the hands of time. It will sink into you eventually after you see enough plans fall aside. How is that ROn Paul Revolution going? He is controlled opposition.

You're obviously incapable of original thought.

Quoting historical figures to try to enforce your original proposition is the domain of high-school debating societies

Grow up; - either man up or stay home, OP ...

You people are pointing to men like Perry as leading a secession. Yet you obviously know nothing about him. If you did you would not be making such ridiculous statements. You say there is no NWO, yet those who you hope will lead you attend all of their meetings.

Have you ever read a DOCTORAL THESSIS or any research WHATSOEVER? No, you have not, Because if you had you would know that ALL RESEARCH IS FULL OF QUOTES FROM OTHER PEOPLE'S WORK.

fool

Here's what people like YOU fail to realize. You could be a genius but from what you've exhibited here tonight, YOU are no leader. When you yell CHARGE, you want to know there are people charging behind you. You come off as an another belligerent asshole looking to validate how superior you're intelligence is. In reality, you're just another anonymous voice crying out on a conspiracy website, a cultural hick backwater destined for disappointment and further frustration and resentment. Have another drink and sleep well knowing how much smarter than everyone else you are. Like that will do anything.

I have no desire to be a leader. Go ahead and jump, stupid lemming.

and by the way the person you responded too was not me

you are not very observant

This is turning into an attention whore thread.

Stop projecting. We are not all drunks.

Now ... THAT rambling rant is funnier than your (non)original suggestion that the States are somehow neutered by Federal law. Read your history books again. Also research who created the States ...

What the fuck does Ron Paul have to do with this thread?

so leave, attention whore

it thinks that history books contan facts

Anyway, I am done with you. Experience will teach you where I have failed to open your eyes. It is sad that you have to go through it. Dont drop the soap, pedro.

Good luck in the real world, OP.

Out. I'm going to try to sleep away the IQ-reducing premises of your asinine thread.

Enjoy your stay in the FEMA future that you are proposing. Hell, there's probably a bunk that already has your name on it.

still waiting for you to clue me into where I was wrong in what I said about "People Power"....

Oh right, I see now:

Thread: if people studied electricity as much as they studied the bible...

Here is a little known factoid. The "founding fathers" were great guys. They signed the constitution because they just loved themselves some freedom. Actually, many of them spent a good while conniving land scrips out of the hands of their resource starved owners. With no string central government they were not worth much. But with the signing of the Constitution and the creation of strong central government those scrips were worth a fortune. Insider trading of a sort.

Blaming FEMA camps on me now. You are a sad little tard.

it is a fact, retard

refute it, fool

and use real words instead of four letter retard words

you can't can you