I got a bad feeling about these petitions for secession | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27636366 United States 11/13/2012 03:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe they only cared about getting the names and addresses of those most motivated politically, those most displeased with the status quo, the organizers, the leaders, those ... they would deem a threat. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27636366 Which would of course be furthered quite easily by simply assuming that those who signed first were 1, most informed and 2, most motivated and 3, therefore dangerous. |
Chrit User ID: 27088294 United States 11/13/2012 03:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The government will give you a solution, they will propose a constitutional change to instill a “no confidence vote” irreparable weakening the government forever. People not understanding what it really means to the future of the country or the constitution will think it is a good idea and go along with it assuming it is a good solution for their anger. Last Edited by Chrit on 11/13/2012 03:08 PM I'm only human, it's my biggest flaw. We must all realize a sink a chair and a pillow are all luxuries of home and a soldiers helmet takes the place of all three. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 23643861 United States 11/13/2012 03:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree with ea of you and your comments. The wise person understands that Almighty God is in control. There are reasons for these things to occur and can be backed by Biblical Scripture. The deception of the masses continue to be presented in subliminal, psychological and spiritual mis-direction. Those who are awake and looking on are - I am sure - both amazed and truly saddened to observe the souls which are being taken purely by ones refusal or ignorance of the Truth. Please choose Jesus - today |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1579810 United States 11/13/2012 03:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A) Nothing. There's an official response that really doesn't amount to anything but an understanding the frustrations of a people that are suffering from the hardships of today. And that rather than trying to separate, we should focus on uniting, blah blah blah. /slobber B) Something. And I believe that if there's a legitimate response to this, it won't be a simple black and white response. Under this category, I feel that anything could happen. I'm a firm believer that these "governing bodies" that so wish to absolve sovereignty are strictly adherent to the "ordo ab chao" philosophy of implementing their own ideas of change and progression. That's why I do not see these petitions as something to laugh about, or scoff off. We live in very interesting times indeed, and to deny the possibility of something very bad coming from this would be naive. People are on edge these days, by the masses. But, just like I said. I will not claim it will be either a negative/positive outcome, only that I do not get a positive feeling from this movement. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1579810 United States 11/13/2012 03:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree with ea of you and your comments. The wise person understands that Almighty God is in control. There are reasons for these things to occur and can be backed by Biblical Scripture. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23643861 The deception of the masses continue to be presented in subliminal, psychological and spiritual mis-direction. Those who are awake and looking on are - I am sure - both amazed and truly saddened to observe the souls which are being taken purely by ones refusal or ignorance of the Truth. Please choose Jesus - today I have trust in God, and I believe in the Illuminati. I know that this reality is 100% illusory, and that from the beginning of man's existence there has been an agenda to seek power in every since of the word. With that, I know that nothing is as it initially seems. Such that coincidence becomes laughable, as plausible deniability has allowed TPTB to perform right before our eyes. My trust is only in God's plan. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1579810 United States 11/13/2012 03:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | first off, if these people think asking for permission is gonna cut it well then i'm glad they didnt mail it because it would be a waste of a stamp. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27660630 remember our forefathers declared their freedom... they didn't ask for it In a sense I agree with this. People are trying to do this in a civilized, non-violent way. I can't say this is a bad thing. Surely if this goes unnoticed, then there is truly only one remaining option. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1579810 United States 11/13/2012 03:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree with ea of you and your comments. The wise person understands that Almighty God is in control. There are reasons for these things to occur and can be backed by Biblical Scripture. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23643861 The deception of the masses continue to be presented in subliminal, psychological and spiritual mis-direction. Those who are awake and looking on are - I am sure - both amazed and truly saddened to observe the souls which are being taken purely by ones refusal or ignorance of the Truth. Please choose Jesus - today I have trust in God, and I believe in the Illuminati. I know that this reality is 100% illusory, and that from the beginning of man's existence there has been an agenda to seek power in every since of the word. With that, I know that nothing is as it initially seems. Such that coincidence becomes laughable, as plausible deniability has allowed TPTB to perform right before our eyes. My trust is only in God's plan. Ugh. I can't spell. every sense* of the word. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4655644 United States 11/13/2012 07:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You can argue the details, concepts or reasons for these secession issues, but you cannot argue that the last time this issue was promoted in our government the result was a Civil War! Over the last four years the sellout scum in DC (R's AND D's) have promoted an agenda of division and discord between races, classes, states and Feds and just about every damned splinter group conceivable. Do any of you really think the goal of this was not to bring about civil unrest/war? Really, because if you are that poor at putting one and one together to make two, then you should stay off of this site and switch to iCarly.com, it is more your speed. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27670202 United States 11/13/2012 08:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it's one of the many covers for something. Or they're throwing this in to further confuse the general population. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9414469 not everything is a conspiracy you paranoid twat. a lot of real people genuinely want to get the hell away from this shitstain of a government Okay then, but why bother with a petition? Why not just secede and tell the Feds to go to hell? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 4655644 United States 11/13/2012 08:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think the thing with these petitions is that it's riling up people that are already upset and talking about a new civil war. I have seen comments on non-conspiracy, heck even non-conservative type websites talking about stuff like this. I know people talk about tipping points on GLP but I don't always look in those threads but...could this actually be it? Quoting: Laura Bow Could be, for sure. Thing is, there IS a tipping point, THAT cannot be denied. Your typical sheeple coward may say that there is no such thing, that people will NEVER be fed up enough to DO anything, that the American people will allow ANY and EVERYTHING to be done to them without standing up and saying no, but that is just ridiculous. Of course there is a tipping point, and it certainly seems like it is the mission of the scum at the top to push the country closer and closer to it every damned day. Someday they may even succeed in finding it. Of course they are the government and as such are generally incompetant, so perhaps not. Only time will tell, but I feel that time is running out before we get there myself. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1161315 Canada 11/13/2012 08:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think the thing with these petitions is that it's riling up people that are already upset and talking about a new civil war. I have seen comments on non-conspiracy, heck even non-conservative type websites talking about stuff like this. I know people talk about tipping points on GLP but I don't always look in those threads but...could this actually be it? Quoting: Laura Bow Could be, for sure. Thing is, there IS a tipping point, THAT cannot be denied. Your typical sheeple coward may say that there is no such thing, that people will NEVER be fed up enough to DO anything, that the American people will allow ANY and EVERYTHING to be done to them without standing up and saying no, but that is just ridiculous. Of course there is a tipping point, and it certainly seems like it is the mission of the scum at the top to push the country closer and closer to it every damned day. Someday they may even succeed in finding it. Of course they are the government and as such are generally incompetant, so perhaps not. Only time will tell, but I feel that time is running out before we get there myself. They want revolution. America is the best country in the world. Have its own citizens destroy it from within. I love your constitution btw, when revolution happens keep it. I swear. If you don't keep it something much bigger and badder will take place. |
Chrit User ID: 27088294 United States 11/13/2012 08:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think the thing with these petitions is that it's riling up people that are already upset and talking about a new civil war. I have seen comments on non-conspiracy, heck even non-conservative type websites talking about stuff like this. I know people talk about tipping points on GLP but I don't always look in those threads but...could this actually be it? Quoting: Laura Bow Could be, for sure. Thing is, there IS a tipping point, THAT cannot be denied. Your typical sheeple coward may say that there is no such thing, that people will NEVER be fed up enough to DO anything, that the American people will allow ANY and EVERYTHING to be done to them without standing up and saying no, but that is just ridiculous. Of course there is a tipping point, and it certainly seems like it is the mission of the scum at the top to push the country closer and closer to it every damned day. Someday they may even succeed in finding it. Of course they are the government and as such are generally incompetant, so perhaps not. Only time will tell, but I feel that time is running out before we get there myself. They want revolution. America is the best country in the world. Have its own citizens destroy it from within. I love your constitution btw, when revolution happens keep it. I swear. If you don't keep it something much bigger and badder will take place. All they have to do for my prediction to come true it show how much the politicians make off these wars they start. Then the “tipping” point will be when they pour both sides in to the same pot and we all agree to cut our nose off to spite our face because the politicians suck. The real people in power, the ones with lifetime appointments will have even more power than they do now. I'm only human, it's my biggest flaw. We must all realize a sink a chair and a pillow are all luxuries of home and a soldiers helmet takes the place of all three. |
MHz User ID: 25505891 Canada 11/13/2012 08:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I get a weird feeling these secession petitions are going to spark civil unrest. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1579810 I just have a bad a feeling about this, certainly since only 24k people are needed to sign it to get an official response. You need a combined number of about 200M before the WH will actually consider the 'request' as being 'serious'. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4655644 United States 11/13/2012 08:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think the thing with these petitions is that it's riling up people that are already upset and talking about a new civil war. I have seen comments on non-conspiracy, heck even non-conservative type websites talking about stuff like this. I know people talk about tipping points on GLP but I don't always look in those threads but...could this actually be it? Quoting: Laura Bow Could be, for sure. Thing is, there IS a tipping point, THAT cannot be denied. Your typical sheeple coward may say that there is no such thing, that people will NEVER be fed up enough to DO anything, that the American people will allow ANY and EVERYTHING to be done to them without standing up and saying no, but that is just ridiculous. Of course there is a tipping point, and it certainly seems like it is the mission of the scum at the top to push the country closer and closer to it every damned day. Someday they may even succeed in finding it. Of course they are the government and as such are generally incompetant, so perhaps not. Only time will tell, but I feel that time is running out before we get there myself. They want revolution. America is the best country in the world. Have its own citizens destroy it from within. I love your constitution btw, when revolution happens keep it. I swear. If you don't keep it something much bigger and badder will take place. Thanks for the kind words Hab. This country was well thought out by a great group of God fearing, intelligent individuals that had a fair deal for the common man as their goal. They did good! Unfortunately, like all good things, it has to end. To collapse from within as all governments always do, especially when corruption and greed become SOP. Gordon Gecco gave us our nation's epitath years ago when he spoke his famous line that "Greed is good". Death by Hollywood, who'd a thunk it? |
Nexus-9 User ID: 26826431 United States 11/13/2012 08:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Personally I am against secession and I think those who want to secede are pussies. Abraham Lincoln saw that if the South had been allowed to secede it would have become a proxy to the foreign powers in Europe. Whose to say if the East seceded from the West the West coast becomes a proxy to China, or the East Coast becomes a proxy to Russia? So, where would that leave the Central United States land locked without a seaport? F-king anarchist are not patriots, but a bunch of cry babies trying to flip the apple cart. If any state secedes it is not only the end of this country but we will get invaded and occupied by a foreign power. People need to stick it through and keep this country United. Last Edited by Nexus-9 on 11/13/2012 09:00 PM "Fiery the Angels rose, & as they rose deep thunder roll'd Around their shores: indignant burning with the fires of Orc" - William Blake, America a Prophecy (...also misquoted in Blade Runner by Roy Batty) "Tempus est optimus iudex" - "Time is the best judge" "The very word "'secrecy'" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings." - John F. Kennedy, New York City, April 27, 1961 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4655644 United States 11/13/2012 09:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Personally I am against secession and I think those who want to secede are pussies. Quoting: Nexus-9 Abraham Lincoln saw that if the South had been allowed to secede it would have become a proxy to the foreign powers in Europe. Whose to say if the East seceded from the West the West coast becomes a proxy to China, or the East Coast becomes a proxy to Russia? So, where would that leave the Central United States land locked without a seaport? F-king anarchist are not patriots, but a bunch of cry babies trying to flip the apple cart. If any state secedes it is not only the end of this country but we will get invaded and occupied by a foreign power. People need to stick it through and keep this country United. Oh so true, but also damned near impossible in the face of a government that is hell bent on tearing it apart. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27261702 United States 11/13/2012 09:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Personally I am against secession and I think those who want to secede are pussies. Quoting: Nexus-9 Abraham Lincoln saw that if the South had been allowed to secede it would have become a proxy to the foreign powers in Europe. Whose to say if the East seceded from the West the West coast becomes a proxy to China, or the East Coast becomes a proxy to Russia? So, where would that leave the Central United States land locked without a seaport? F-king anarchist are not patriots, but a bunch of cry babies trying to flip the apple cart. If any state secedes it is not only the end of this country but we will get invaded and occupied by a foreign power. People need to stick it through and keep this country United. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27308713 United States 11/13/2012 09:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People have talked about TPTB creating a civil war senario for the country to battle through. Those same people who talked about it are now creating it for themselves by buying into this liberals vs conservatives mindset and absolutely freaking out like sore losers when their party lost. If these people just went with it we could avoid any problems that all of this childish nonsense could create. |
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Nexus-9 User ID: 26826431 United States 11/14/2012 01:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Personally I am against secession and I think those who want to secede are pussies. Quoting: Nexus-9 Abraham Lincoln saw that if the South had been allowed to secede it would have become a proxy to the foreign powers in Europe. Whose to say if the East seceded from the West the West coast becomes a proxy to China, or the East Coast becomes a proxy to Russia? So, where would that leave the Central United States land locked without a seaport? F-king anarchist are not patriots, but a bunch of cry babies trying to flip the apple cart. If any state secedes it is not only the end of this country but we will get invaded and occupied by a foreign power. People need to stick it through and keep this country United. Only cowards run. "Fiery the Angels rose, & as they rose deep thunder roll'd Around their shores: indignant burning with the fires of Orc" - William Blake, America a Prophecy (...also misquoted in Blade Runner by Roy Batty) "Tempus est optimus iudex" - "Time is the best judge" "The very word "'secrecy'" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings." - John F. Kennedy, New York City, April 27, 1961 |