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christian (OP) Suited up and Armored in Christ! User ID: 6038128 United States 11/13/2012 10:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This calls for patient endurance and faithfulness on the part of God’s people. THESE ARE THE RAPTURED SAINTS.. This calls for patient endurance on the part of the people of God who keep his commands and remain faithful to Jesus. THESE HAVE TO BE THE TRIBULATION SAINTS, WHO COME TO FAITH AFTER THE RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH.. Susie For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21 There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1 |
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christian (OP) Suited up and Armored in Christ! User ID: 6038128 United States 11/13/2012 10:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I do not guess or wonder... I believe,I pray..I test spirits through spiritual discernment as GOD directs us to do.... Susie For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21 There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1194370 United States 11/13/2012 10:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I do not guess or wonder... I believe,I pray..I test spirits through spiritual discernment as GOD directs us to do.... Wonderful... I thought you might be guessing and wondering if this passage relates to what you think it does... I see alot of that these days and it just leads to more confusion. |
christian (OP) Suited up and Armored in Christ! User ID: 6038128 United States 11/13/2012 10:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I do not guess or wonder... I believe,I pray..I test spirits through spiritual discernment as GOD directs us to do.... Wonderful... I thought you might be guessing and wondering if this passage relates to what you think it does... I see alot of that these days and it just leads to more confusion. Just using spiritual discernment as both scriptures in Revelation 13 and 14 call people of GOD at 2 different times to have Patient Endurance and faithfullness... We do know harder times are coming upon all of us... Susie For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21 There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1194370 United States 11/13/2012 10:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I do not guess or wonder... I believe,I pray..I test spirits through spiritual discernment as GOD directs us to do.... Wonderful... I thought you might be guessing and wondering if this passage relates to what you think it does... I see alot of that these days and it just leads to more confusion. Just using spiritual discernment as both scriptures in Revelation 13 and 14 call people of GOD at 2 different times to have Patient Endurance and faithfullness... We do know harder times are coming upon all of us... Sufficient to the day is the evil thereof. God takes care for the birds and the lillys. God will care for His own much more so. May you be encouraged this evening By His Love and Power and protection. God Bless. |
christian (OP) Suited up and Armored in Christ! User ID: 6038128 United States 11/13/2012 10:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IT APPEARS THE TRIBULATION SAINTS ALL COME IN REVELATION 14. The Bible repeatedly states that Tribulation Saints will face a strong likelihood of being martyred under the Antichrist's demonic rule. Many Tribulation Saints will have to pay the ultimate price and give their lives for their faith in Jesus Christ as Lord. There are several passages that warn how rough it will be for Christians to endure the Tribulation: "And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations" (Rev 13:7). "He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints" (Rev 13:10). "And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed" (Rev 13:15). "Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labors; and their works do follow them" (Rev 14:12-13). "And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years" (Rev 20:4). Last Edited by christian on 11/13/2012 10:46 PM Susie For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21 There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1 |
christian (OP) Suited up and Armored in Christ! User ID: 6038128 United States 11/13/2012 10:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: christian I do not guess or wonder... I believe,I pray..I test spirits through spiritual discernment as GOD directs us to do.... Wonderful... I thought you might be guessing and wondering if this passage relates to what you think it does... I see alot of that these days and it just leads to more confusion. Just using spiritual discernment as both scriptures in Revelation 13 and 14 call people of GOD at 2 different times to have Patient Endurance and faithfullness... We do know harder times are coming upon all of us... Sufficient to the day is the evil thereof. God takes care for the birds and the lillys. God will care for His own much more so. May you be encouraged this evening By His Love and Power and protection. God Bless. GOD BLESS YOU AS WELL... Susie For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21 There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 14227947 United States 11/13/2012 10:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IT APPEARS THE TRIBULATION SAINTS ALL COME IN REVELATION 13. Quoting: christian The Bible repeatedly states that Tribulation Saints will face a strong likelihood of being martyred under the Antichrist's demonic rule. Many Tribulation Saints will have to pay the ultimate price and give their lives for their faith in Jesus Christ as Lord. There are several passages that warn how rough it will be for Christians to endure the Tribulation: "And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations" (Rev 13:7). "He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints" (Rev 13:10). "And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed" (Rev 13:15). "Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labors; and their works do follow them" (Rev 14:12-13). "And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years" (Rev 20:4). Thank you you are correct...the delusion is this thing called a rapture that was man made in the early 1900 by a woman in a church...she was wrong. It states that after these things then shall you see the son of God coming in the clouds....After is the Key word...we are going to be here that why God is telling us ahead of time to be ready prepared and strong.... The delusion is that when the tribulation great events begin and christians are not take up in the "Rapture" they will fall away and lose thier faith....please remember this dont fall away when these things begin and your still here just know man was wrong but God's word is right and correct and strong...hold it in your heart so strong and look up because he will help us during it he is faithful to his children. |
God Loves ALL User ID: 8017901 United States 11/13/2012 10:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you misinterpreted that completely Christian. There is no rapture, there is no church of Jesus. stop believing the thieving thugs who corrupted revelations completely, and left out 90% of the original. You can never make revelations work because most of it is missing and the rest corrupted. It even repeats itself in places. One truth in it, is MIchael and His angles, but MIchael is NOT Michael the Arch Angel., It s MIchael of Nebadon, OUR Creator Son who came as Jesus. But he is NOT the Eternal Son 2nd person of the Trinity. There are 700,000 creator sons. The actual Lord's Prayer Given by Jesus 2000 years ago. "MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER, AMEN. Nice video: [link to www.youtube.com] Make this World a Better One Thread: Walter Russell Quotes Walter Russell thread |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27521009 United States 11/13/2012 10:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you misinterpreted that completely Christian. There is no rapture, there is no church of Jesus. stop believing the thieving thugs who corrupted revelations completely, and left out 90% of the original. You can never make revelations work because most of it is missing and the rest corrupted. It even repeats itself in places. Quoting: God Loves ALL One truth in it, is MIchael and His angles, but MIchael is NOT Michael the Arch Angel., It s MIchael of Nebadon, OUR Creator Son who came as Jesus. But he is NOT the Eternal Son 2nd person of the Trinity. There are 700,000 creator sons. go back to your other thread you hater... |
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christian (OP) Suited up and Armored in Christ! User ID: 6038128 United States 11/13/2012 10:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you misinterpreted that completely Christian. There is no rapture, there is no church of Jesus. stop believing the thieving thugs who corrupted revelations completely, and left out 90% of the original. You can never make revelations work because most of it is missing and the rest corrupted. It even repeats itself in places. Quoting: God Loves ALL One truth in it, is MIchael and His angles, but MIchael is NOT Michael the Arch Angel., It s MIchael of Nebadon, OUR Creator Son who came as Jesus. But he is NOT the Eternal Son 2nd person of the Trinity. There are 700,000 creator sons. GOD has one BEGOTTEN SON and that is Jesus our Christ mwhich means GOD did not create Jesus Christ he is one with GOD.. GOD the Father GOD the SON GOD the Holy Spirit... GOD is 1 not multiples... Susie For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21 There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1 |
christian (OP) Suited up and Armored in Christ! User ID: 6038128 United States 11/13/2012 10:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IT APPEARS THE TRIBULATION SAINTS ALL COME IN REVELATION 13. Quoting: christian The Bible repeatedly states that Tribulation Saints will face a strong likelihood of being martyred under the Antichrist's demonic rule. Many Tribulation Saints will have to pay the ultimate price and give their lives for their faith in Jesus Christ as Lord. There are several passages that warn how rough it will be for Christians to endure the Tribulation: "And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations" (Rev 13:7). "He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints" (Rev 13:10). "And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed" (Rev 13:15). "Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labors; and their works do follow them" (Rev 14:12-13). "And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years" (Rev 20:4). Thank you you are correct...the delusion is this thing called a rapture that was man made in the early 1900 by a woman in a church...she was wrong. It states that after these things then shall you see the son of God coming in the clouds....After is the Key word...we are going to be here that why God is telling us ahead of time to be ready prepared and strong.... The delusion is that when the tribulation great events begin and christians are not take up in the "Rapture" they will fall away and lose thier faith....please remember this dont fall away when these things begin and your still here just know man was wrong but God's word is right and correct and strong...hold it in your heart so strong and look up because he will help us during it he is faithful to his children. I do believe in the RAPTURE...However how the rapture manifests itself I do not know..Meaning I do not believe we will fly in the air, of course we cannot in our physical flesh..Will we be taken by physical death and our spirit raptured? will we change in a twinkling of an eye that we will shed our mortal bodies into immortal ones, making us immune from human harm? will we be enveloped by some kind of magnetic cloud? I do not know..... Susie For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21 There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1 |
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MHz User ID: 25505891 Canada 11/13/2012 11:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Isa.51:6 Lift up your eyes to the heavens, and look upon the earth beneath: for the heavens shall vanish away like smoke, and the earth shall wax old like a garment, and they that dwell therein shall die in like manner: but my salvation shall be for ever, and my righteousness shall not be abolished. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27521009 United States 11/13/2012 11:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I love ya Op but prepare yourself really bad times are coming! A very long war! Many will starve, Many will be killed by the sword! The location of Armageddon, where the eagles are gathered... thats right here in the USA! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 8788578 United States 11/13/2012 11:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I love ya Op but prepare yourself really bad times are coming! A very long war! Many will starve, Many will be killed by the sword! The location of Armageddon, where the eagles are gathered... thats right here in the USA! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27521009 Are you aware that you're part of the problem by spreading contrived BS? |
Morganite User ID: 11765896 United States 11/13/2012 11:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | lol - also when you come down from your roof, don't stop to grab anything. Jebus was definitely speaking to us 2000 years later, and not the folks standing right there in His face when He issued these warnings, right? =D He was speaking to BOTH, NOT EITHER/OR because prophecy has near fulfillments and far fulfillments. In 70a.d. it was partially fulfilled and since history repeats itself, it will happen again when the Man of Sin/Antichrist surrounds Jerusalem and the wise jewish remnant flee to the wilderness to be protected during the time of Jacob's trouble a.k.a .Great Tribulation). morganite |
McMiller User ID: 3214087 Canada 11/13/2012 11:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also the rapture has never been apparent in scipture until just recently, it was not know about even 200 years ago to scholars. It was made popular with the left behind series in the 80's... |
christian (OP) Suited up and Armored in Christ! User ID: 6038128 United States 11/13/2012 11:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I love ya Op but prepare yourself really bad times are coming! A very long war! Many will starve, Many will be killed by the sword! The location of Armageddon, where the eagles are gathered... thats right here in the USA! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27521009 Are you considering these scriptures? 1st Corinthians 15:52 n a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. Matthew 24:31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other. John 5:28 "Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice 1 Corinthians 15:23 But each in his own turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him. 1 Thessalonians 4:15 According to the Lord's own word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left till the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. Susie For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21 There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1 |
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christian (OP) Suited up and Armored in Christ! User ID: 6038128 United States 11/13/2012 11:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cant say I believe this whole rapture deal. If anyone can back this up with scipture please do! Ive already studied it out but I may have missed something. Quoting: McMiller Also the rapture has never been apparent in scipture until just recently, it was not know about even 200 years ago to scholars. It was made popular with the left behind series in the 80's... Well we do know GOD does not appoint his saints to his wrath... For God did not appoint us to suffer wrath but to receive salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ. 1 Thessalonians 1:10 and to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead--Jesus, who rescues us from the coming wrath. 2 Timothy 2:10 Therefore I endure everything for the sake of the elect, that they too may obtain the salvation that is in Christ Jesus, with eternal glory. Last Edited by christian on 11/13/2012 11:18 PM Susie For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21 There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1 |
Morganite User ID: 11765896 United States 11/13/2012 11:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it will happen again when the Man of Sin/Antichrist surrounds Jerusalem and the wise jewish remnant flee to the wilderness to be protected during the time of Jacob's trouble a.k.a .Great Tribulation). Quoting: Morganite Can't wait - totally holding my breath on this Well, I won't be holding my breath waiting for you to post scripture. morganite |
Morganite User ID: 11765896 United States 11/13/2012 11:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 'Rapture/Not Wrath for Christians' Theme In Scripture - [link to www.freewebs.com] tp://www.bcrevolution.ca/rapture_facts.htm [link to unveilingthebride.com] [link to www.bibleprophesy.org] morganite |