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Secessionist movement in America ????

 
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WE ALREADY DID IN 1865...do we really need to do it again?
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Really...like you or any of the other blowhards pissing and moaning, trying to show us "Good Ol' Boys" what we would be missing without the "Enlightened" civilization of the "Blue" states, could have made it one fuckin day back in the 1860's...like you wouldn't piss your fuckin panties the minute you heard the first shot fired...gimmi a fuckin' break
 Quoting: Saddletramp


The fuck are you talking about...I would've done fine in the 1860's. Oh hell, all of the blue states would have. OH WAIT, WE DID. Quit being a bitter asshole, and accept the fact that your culture was conquered by the enlightened.
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Hey, you're the one that came in here trying to tell us all how bad off we would be without your "Enlightened" civilization...

I'm just saying...I'm willing to take that chance...
 Quoting: Saddletramp




So enlightened they are committing suicide. Suicide of the traditional family. Suicide of States rights. Suicide of our Military. Suicide of our dollar. Suicide of our Constitutional rights...

Yeah maybe a seperation can actually SAVE what's left of America.

Or

Maybe that's what Obama and company have been looking for, after all the other riots in the streets they tried to create never worked out so well.



Obama may have planned this or at least George Soros and company..
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Really...like you or any of the other blowhards pissing and moaning, trying to show us "Good Ol' Boys" what we would be missing without the "Enlightened" civilization of the "Blue" states, could have made it one fuckin day back in the 1860's...like you wouldn't piss your fuckin panties the minute you heard the first shot fired...gimmi a fuckin' break
 Quoting: Saddletramp


The fuck are you talking about...I would've done fine in the 1860's. Oh hell, all of the blue states would have. OH WAIT, WE DID. Quit being a bitter asshole, and accept the fact that your culture was conquered by the enlightened.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27784691


Hey, you're the one that came in here trying to tell us all how bad off we would be without your "Enlightened" civilization...

I'm just saying...I'm willing to take that chance...
 Quoting: Saddletramp




So enlightened they are committing suicide. Suicide of the traditional family. Suicide of States rights. Suicide of our Military. Suicide of our dollar. Suicide of our Constitutional rights...

Yeah maybe a seperation can actually SAVE what's left of America.

Or

Maybe that's what Obama and company have been looking for, after all the other riots in the streets they tried to create never worked out so well.



Obama may have planned this or at least George Soros and company..
dead3
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Well I'm sure DHS didn't buy a billion hollow point bullets for no reason...
"And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius

"Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..."
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Well for starters this will never happen, and well, the folks that are on this little tyrade don't seem to know about Econ 101 or how to run an independent country and how they will manage not just the day to day operation of a newly independent country, but the myriad of citizens dependent on government housing, aid, healthcare etc.

In short, they talk up a big storm but don't have a freakin clue. I think it would be an interesting social experiment to watch it unfold. But I would feel really bad for the "majority" who want to stay with the US.

It would quickly devolve into an militaristic oligarchy and would quickly be overrun by Mexico.
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Obama may have planned this or at least George Soros and company..

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27784837


I saw an interview with Soros back a few yrs ago
and he stated that the largest obstacle to the
NWO is America.

Right after that interview he invested
$2 Million in John Kerry's campaign.

when Kerry didn't win, 4 yrs later
he invested $4 Million in Obama
which took him inside the WH.

Soros also spent another $5 Million
in 2012 to KEEP Obama in office.

Soros is a Rothschild Lt.

Soros was mentored by Rothschild at
the London School of Economics in the
late 40's and Soros moved to NY in 1951
and started his Quantum Fund with
$1 Mill of Rothschild seed money.

So what Obama is doing is exactly
what Soros and Rothschild planned
by design and Soros stated as much
in that interview.
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11/15/2012 01:03 AM
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Re: Secessionist movement in America ????
are you kidding

they will never been allowed to leave the union

what do you think the civil war was about?

you think it was over slavery?

oh no my friend

it was about STATES RIGHTS

if the south had won we'd be in a very different country right now

they will NEVER allow states to leave the union

they will KILL THEM before they allow that

count on it
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^



Don't make me laugh ... The only reason the slaves were freed is because the south was starting to use the slaves as soldiers thus out
numberIng the north a giving the confederates the upper-hand so the north sent in their plants and spread the lies of freedom ... Without telling the slaves that they would have to provide for themselves and abide by the laws .. Heck the north welcomed the freed slaves in their prisons and jails as a new form of slavery that still actually exists today ...
So stick to the topic and don't make arse hole assumptions .
 Quoting: Indego


Ah, "new-think history" posing as historical fact. Is that what is being taught in schools these days? How unfortunate - and twisted.
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11/15/2012 01:10 AM
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Obama may have planned this or at least George Soros and company..

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27784837


I saw an interview with Soros back a few yrs ago
and he stated that the largest obstacle to the
NWO is America.

Right after that interview he invested
$2 Million in John Kerry's campaign.

when Kerry didn't win, 4 yrs later
he invested $4 Million in Obama
which took him inside the WH.

Soros also spent another $5 Million
in 2012 to KEEP Obama in office.

Soros is a Rothschild Lt.

Soros was mentored by Rothschild at
the London School of Economics in the
late 40's and Soros moved to NY in 1951
and started his Quantum Fund with
$1 Mill of Rothschild seed money.

So what Obama is doing is exactly
what Soros and Rothschild planned
by design and Soros stated as much
in that interview.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27780658


hmmmm
not bad for Redneck Intelligence work huh ?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH​A
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11/15/2012 01:12 AM
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Well aparently there are close to 1 million or more Americans that signed Petitions for their local state governments to succede grime the union .
And Obama has stated if they had 25 thousand votes congress would consider it.
My question is what are they going to do if they are given what they ask ?
Have they organized ? Have a leader or land to inhabbit?
Or are they infact a bunch of soar losers with some sort of complexes ?

Hey it's everymans right to venture out into the unknown but what exactly would be the purpose if there's no set plan?
 Quoting: Indego


Thats real smart get on the list with the NRA . Youl be the first ones to go.
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Well for starters this will never happen, and well, the folks that are on this little tyrade don't seem to know about Econ 101 or how to run an independent country and how they will manage not just the day to day operation of a newly independent country, but the myriad of citizens dependent on government housing, aid, healthcare etc.

In short, they talk up a big storm but don't have a freakin clue. I think it would be an interesting social experiment to watch it unfold. But I would feel really bad for the "majority" who want to stay with the US.

It would quickly devolve into an militaristic oligarchy and would quickly be overrun by Mexico.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16006480


Mexico couldn't scatter shit with a hay rake...

And as far as Oligarchy...what the fuck do you think we are now?!?!?

Last Edited by Saddletramp on 11/15/2012 01:17 AM
"And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius

"Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..."
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11/15/2012 01:22 AM
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Re: Secessionist movement in America ????
Keep it simple.

Abolish the lobby.
Abolish the PAC's.
Representation back to the people.
Keep the union of the States in tact.
Develope self sufficiency.
Leadership through example is much less costly than leadership through imperialism.
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11/15/2012 01:26 AM
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Keep it simple.

Abolish the lobby.
Abolish the PAC's.
Representation back to the people.
Keep the union of the States in tact.
Develope self sufficiency.
Leadership through example is much less costly than leadership through imperialism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11293979


lmao

I'll bet AIPAC has you on their radar
right now.

but AIPAC is one of the things
that need to go

just as dual citizens holding positions
in the Fed Gov must go

(yea that means you Panetta)

dual loyalties should never be a concern
in a Republic
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Saddle Tramp

I think we just converted a few Yanks
with that Intelligence Briefing.

Glad somebody is waking up

we've spent the last 150+ yrs asleep
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11/15/2012 01:47 AM
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and I wonder if the Yanks know that
80% or more of the presidential cabinets
dating back since JFK have been CFR members ??
This includes Obama's Cabinet ;)

it did not matter whether it was
Dems or Repugs.

Meet the new boss
same as the old boss

elections don't mean sh!t
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and I wonder if the Yanks know that
80% or more of the presidential cabinets
dating back since JFK have been CFR members ??
This includes Obama's Cabinet ;)

it did not matter whether it was
Dems or Repugs.

Meet the new boss
same as the old boss

elections don't mean sh!t
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11/15/2012 01:53 AM
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You are comparing two COMPLETELY different scenarios in two COMPLETELY different time frames, do you know that? You are fooling yourself if you think you will be better off as an individual state than you will be with the United States. You obviously have no idea how trade, both regionally and internationally work, not to mention the problems that occur with land use, rights, policies and taxes.

Please.. don't be one of the many uneducated individuals in this country. Do some research, talk to some professors and read a book or two regarding the topic at hand. You will see just how wrong this whole notion truly is.
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This is how the civil war started right here.

Listen man I don't want to see the union fall apart.
But it's happening, not from the threat of secession; but our own government allowing infinite printing of currency, and outsourcing of jobs.

This is why your hearing talk of secession.

Regardless of secession or not the entire thing is imploding.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19320175


The civil war was in no way, shape, or form close to what we are experiencing today. You just can't make that argument and expect people (outside of GLP) to take you seriously.

Obviously the economy isn't doing well, and people are hitting the bottom of the barrel. But guess what? America has seen worse, and been in worse situations and they got out of them stronger than ever. Have some faith, do your part, enjoy life, and good things will happen to you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14541046


America has never seen $17 trillion in debt.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19320175


Does anyone really believe there ever was that much money? I can tell you there never has been that much money. It is a Federal Reserve digit count. Just think of how much money in print that would be.
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Secede! Secession!

Let the Blue States be the Enlightened
States of America.

Dear Red States:

We're ticked off at your Neanderthal attitudes and politics and we've decided we're leaving.

We in New York intend to form our own country and we're taking the other Blue States with us.

In case you aren't aware that includes California, Hawaii, Oregon, Washington, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois and the rest of the Northeast.

We believe this split will be beneficial to the nation and especially to the people of the new country of The Enlightened States of America (E.S.A).

To sum up briefly:

You get Texas, Oklahoma and all the slave states.

We get stem cell research and the best beaches.

We get Andrew Cuomo and Elizabeth Warren. You get Bobby Jindal and Todd



Blah blah blah ....
How bout some of those enlightened new englanders travel south and educate some of these bumpkin ass southern fools ... They gullible as anything .... Heck they swear they hate the white devils but openly worship them so tell em anything they buy it .... Or how bout people just stop wasting time and energy complaining and devlpp some new lucrative businesses or venture out into the unknown and make way for yourselves as American on forgien soil
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I guess you haven't check the secession petitions, there is one for every state in the Union! New York is in it, too!
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Does anyone really believe there ever was that much money?
 Quoting: Daughter


undoubtedly you didn't watch the
Rothschild Documentary

Rothschild showed off his tonnage
of gold in his personal vault.

$9 Trillion in gold bars
in that one vault alone.
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The truth is we don't want to secede from the Union. We want to get rid of the unelected corporation, that has infiltrated, every part of what used to be The United States Of America! We want to abolish it, tare it down and stomp on it and all the things they have done to our Country.

We are not THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, we are The United States Of America which was taught in school, when I was growing up!
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Does anyone really believe there ever was that much money?
 Quoting: Daughter


undoubtedly you didn't watch the
Rothschild Documentary

Rothschild showed off his tonnage
of gold in his personal vault.

$9 Trillion in gold bars
in that one vault alone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27780658


did you also know that $40 Billion in gold bars
disappeared from the WTC Basement Vaults just
1 hr before the planes hit the twins on
Sept. 11, 2001 ???

1 truck was found under the collapse in a
tunnel but it's cargo was missing.
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Don't make me laugh ... The only reason the slaves were freed is because the south was starting to use the slaves as soldiers thus out
numberIng the north a giving the confederates the upper-hand so the north sent in their plants and spread the lies of freedom ... Without telling the slaves that they would have to provide for themselves and abide by the laws .. Heck the north welcomed the freed slaves in their prisons and jails as a new form of slavery that still actually exists today ...
So stick to the topic and don't make arse hole assumptions .


Ah, "new-think history" posing as historical fact. Is that what is being taught in schools these days? How unfortunate - and twisted.


Then disprove it . Or would that mean actual research on your part , your right what am I thinking , that would mean some actual thought amd well clearly you put none into what you say
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and just maybe

if the Secessionist movement gets underway,
they can get a REAL investigation into
9/11 and JFK Assassination so we can
put these puppies to bed for good.
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Just about anything i better than 4 more years of Obama and his Communist, Muslim ways.

He is killing the oil Boom.
He is killing jobs.
He continues to spend
He is gutting the Military
He is helping the Muslims
He is helping Russia
He is doing everything but help America
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Just about anything i better than 4 more years of Obama and his Communist, Muslim ways.

He continues to spend
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24207739


US National Debt was designed to help
bring America down.

Debt increased by $4 Trillion under Obama.

Majority of that money was loaned to us
by The Bank of China.

Rothschild owns 26% Stock of The Bank of China.
Soros owns 14% Stock of the Bank of China.

So the interest payments on that national debt
is being paid directly into the pockets of
the bankers who put Obama into office.

Rothschild spends $10 Million to elect Obama
Soros spends $5 Million to elect Obama

then gets a whopping $500 Billion interest
payment on the debt Obama creates.

quite a nice lil banking scam they got
going.
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Just about anything i better than 4 more years of Obama and his Communist, Muslim ways.

He continues to spend
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24207739


US National Debt was designed to help
bring America down.

Debt increased by $4 Trillion under Obama.

Majority of that money was loaned to us
by The Bank of China.

Rothschild owns 26% Stock of The Bank of China.
Soros owns 14% Stock of the Bank of China.

So the interest payments on that national debt
is being paid directly into the pockets of
the bankers who put Obama into office.

Rothschild spends $10 Million to elect Obama
Soros spends $5 Million to elect Obama

then gets a whopping $500 Billion interest
payment on the debt Obama creates.

quite a nice lil banking scam they got
going.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27780658


and it's a fvcking shame that Holder
does not prosecute those acts of
espionage and political banking fraud
and treason.

instead he focuses on military
marital affairs
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Does anyone really believe there ever was that much money?
 Quoting: Daughter


undoubtedly you didn't watch the
Rothschild Documentary

Rothschild showed off his tonnage
of gold in his personal vault.

$9 Trillion in gold bars
in that one vault alone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27780658


Paper money is what our debt is based on, No Gold.
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Paper money is what our debt is based on, No Gold.
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we left the gold standard in 1971
under Nixon.
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Don't make me laugh ... The only reason the slaves were freed is because the south was starting to use the slaves as soldiers thus out
numberIng the north a giving the confederates the upper-hand so the north sent in their plants and spread the lies of freedom ... Without telling the slaves that they would have to provide for themselves and abide by the laws .. Heck the north welcomed the freed slaves in their prisons and jails as a new form of slavery that still actually exists today ...
So stick to the topic and don't make arse hole assumptions .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26952081


Ah, "new-think history" posing as historical fact. Is that what is being taught in schools these days? How unfortunate - and twisted.


Then disprove it . Or would that mean actual research on your part , your right what am I thinking , that would mean some actual thought amd well clearly you put none into what you say


They were not using the slaves, they were freed to fight along side the Confederate soldier they, were treat just like all the other soldiers. They commanded some of the troop of both black and white soldiers. Free blacks also owned plantations in case you didn't know.

Go read the Alabama constitution, if you can get through it all, it has the tale in it. By the way if you are of Mexican descent and you can prove your ancestors fought for Alabama during the civil war, you can be an Alabama citizen, too. It really is in there.
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Go read the Alabama constitution,
 Quoting: Daughter


Cindy ??
is that really you ??
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It will never happen.

Obama nor anyone else in government ever said anything remotely similar to 25 thousand votes will get Congress to consider it.

One million people is about one half of 1% of the voting age public.

And as Trinity said, they'd sooner send in the military than let a state go.
 Quoting: Robot Emotions


They are not gonna give up the tax money that easily.
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It will never happen.

Obama nor anyone else in government ever said anything remotely similar to 25 thousand votes will get Congress to consider it.

One million people is about one half of 1% of the voting age public.

And as Trinity said, they'd sooner send in the military than let a state go.
 Quoting: Robot Emotions


They are not gonna give up the tax money that easily.
 Quoting: NightWisp


that tax money paid to the IRS does NOT go
to the Fed Gov.

It goes to the Vatican Bank.

The IRS is NOT a Gov entity.

the IRS trace route is:

Delaware > Cayman Islands > Bank of London > Vatican Bank

it is a Vatican Bank laundering scam

no taxes paid to the IRS helps our Gov.
it gets income from gas, cigarettes,
and illegal drug money from the CIA
is how it operates.

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