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JESUS THE GALILEAN "THE LION OF THE TRIBE OF JUDAH" HIS LINEAGE IS JUDAH BUT NOT BORN IN JUDEA

 
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YOUR CHURCHES WILL NOT BRING TO LIGHT THESE THINGS UNLESS YOU START READING AND PUTTING THINGS TOGETHER,PLEASE NEVER TAKE THESE TRUTHS AS A PERSONAL ATTACK ON YOU. THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO AS BROTHERS AND SISTERS TELL THE TRUTH TO ONE ANOTHER AND EVEN IF IT HURTS IT IS THE LOVE OF A FRIEND.FOR THIS REASON I AM HATED BUT I CONTINUE ON NOT BEING DISCOURAGED.

Now, all the way thru the King James Version of the scripture in the New Testament, we see the use of the word Jew a lot. But many times the word ‘Jew’ is a misnomer[misapplied].

There is no diferentiation between the Sadducees Pharaisees edomites [false Judeans] from the hebrew Israelites, actually THE SCAM WAS AND IS TO confuse the masses so they translate the word Judean as Jew, or Israel as Jew, the Scribes and Pharisees as jews, even king Herod a jew and Messiah a jew.

The Jews of course;even messiah called them Jews and devils, are usurpers. And always, they have sought to take over the religion and control the economy of the societies through usery and unjust weights and measures they sought to entail and engross themselves with.

They are however the engineers of the slave industry, wars and occupation and the source of kabalah talmud Luciferian doctrines. The bottom line they are edomites whom also adopted christianity disguised as Rome, they were called Convertos or Marranos.

These are the men and women who spearhead your christian organizations today and setup your seminarian philosophical false doctrines and teachings.


The jews were citizens of Judea the land.In the old days called Jewry.

BNFGERFR


Messiah was a judean out of the tribe of judah but a citizen of galilee THE LION and the LAMB

ioliu

Very important to get this because it will clear up the chaos when reading your bible



Now you will begin to understand how the bible translators did not take time to differentiate and called both parties Jews.Even messiah called the jews temple priests and politicians vipers murderers and dogs because they were not of the judean lineage they were mostly occupiers who were born into the culture.They were edomites and gentiles.

Most of the the Israelites were not in the land at that time since the the temple destruction in the days of ezra and jeremiah. Even in galilee there were a lot of the gentiles living there.

I will prove that also
MATT CHP 4:15

“The land of Zebulon, the land of Naphtali, the way of the sea, the crossings of Jordan, Galilee of the Gentiles.”

GALILEE WAS WHERE ONE OF THE LOST TRIBES INHABITED UNTIL THEY WERE TAKEN AWAY FROM THE LAND.

More proof:

M,JJK,J


The Book OF 2ND KINGS

18 Therefore the LORD was very angry with Israel, and removed them out of his sight: there was none left but the tribe of Judah only.

Above in green you see only judah was left but they got trampled and moved out also later on in the time of Jeremiah and Ezra

19 Also Judah kept not the commandments of the LORD their God, but walked in the statutes of Israel which they made.

20 And the LORD rejected all the seed of Israel, and afflicted them, and delivered them into the hand of spoilers, until he had cast them out of his sight.

21 For he rent Israel from the house of David; and they made Jeroboam the son of Nebat king: and Jeroboam drave Israel from following the LORD, and made them sin a great sin.

22 For the children of Israel walked in all the sins of Jeroboam which he did; they departed not from them;

23 Until the LORD removed Israel out of his sight, as he had said by all his servants the prophets. So was Israel carried away out of their own land to Assyria unto this day.

24 And the king of Assyria brought men from Babylon, and from Cuthah, and from Ava, and from Hamath, and from Sepharvaim, and placed them in the cities of Samaria instead of the children of Israel: and they possessed Samaria, and dwelt in the cities thereof.

**The king brought other foreigners into the land with all their different beliefs and paganism**
LIIUIU

The people who say, But was not YEHSHIYEH a Jew? are surely at odds with the scriptures. They take that passage of mis-translation about the words on the cross, and say, but see? HE was the king of the Jews.

But that was the translation of what was supposedly upon the Cross. Yes, HE was King over Judea. He is the Lion of the tribe of Judea not Jewry.

Pilate was very displeased by the conduct of the Jews at the trial of the Christ. And he suggested, ‘King of the Jews.’ But they didn’t want that becaue they were in charge of the capital of the land, the devil had plans for his own king to sit in the holy land


Therefore most people are mistaken as to the truth of the scripture because they do not understand the difference between the people of God’s Israel and these people today known as Jews, many of whom are Luciferian and edomites in all their background.

There is a minor group who are not part of this ZIONIST evil and may God BLESS THEM AND KEEP THEM but I speak of the ruling powers in judaism and politics

This shows up in all the situations which they design, for they trifled with the word of God just as they planned for the murder of the embodiment of God.
But remember this. Yehshiyah said to them, ‘You could not do this unless I lay My life down, "AND THEN TAKE IT UP AGAIN" And then they with great fear ran and hid when he was resurrected.

Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 12/04/2012 10:39 AM
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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why so stupid? why?!?!

jews in hebrew - yehudim derived from yehuda.
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why so stupid? why?!?!

jews in hebrew - yehudim derived from yehuda.
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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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So whats a galilean and what religion did they practice????
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So no Jews in that town?? Sounds like a safe place huh?
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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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INdeed, because you see folks, THERE WERE NO JEWS THEN AT ALL, NOT A SINGLE ONE. The khazar Zionists who adopted the sick talmud in 700+ AD changed their name to JEWS in 1700+ AD and put that in your bible. So they could steal Israel.

and OP you cannot prove this one with your bible which was written long before the Khazars Adopted the Talmud. Damn google will not load again, but look up the 13th Tribe by that guy that wrote it, but whom I can't remember his name tonight either. Gawd the internet is terrible again. I am pretty sure 13th Tribe, will find the book though. Arthur K something.

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The actual Lord's Prayer Given by Jesus 2000 years ago.

"MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER,
AMEN.

Nice video: [link to www.youtube.com] Make this World a Better One

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Nazareth?
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YOUR CHURCHES WILL NOT BRING TO LIGHT THESE THINGS UNLESS YOU START READING AND PUTTING THINGS TOGETHER,PLEASE NEVER TAKE THESE TRUTHS AS A PERSONAL ATTACK ON YOU. THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO AS BROTHERS AND SISTERS TELL THE TRUTH TO ONE ANOTHER AND EVEN IF IT HURTS IT IS THE LOVE OF A FRIEND.FOR THIS REASON I AM HATED BUT I CONTINUE ON NOT BEING DISCOURAGED.



The jews were citizens of Judea the land.In the old days called Jewry.

:BNFGERFR:


Messiah was a judean out of the tribe of judah but a citizen of galilee THE LION and the LAMB

:ioliu:

Very important to get this because it will clear up the chaos when reading your bible



Now you will begin to understand how the bible translators did not take time to differentiate and called both parties Jews.Even messiah called the jews temple priests and politicians vipers murderers and dogs because they were not of the judean lineage they were mostly occupiers who were born into the culture.They were edomites and gentiles.

Most of the the Israelites were not in the land at that time since the the temple destruction in the days of ezra and jeremiah. Even in galilee there were a lot of the gentiles living there.

I will prove that also
MATT CHP 4:15

“The land of Zebulon, the land of Naphtali, the way of the sea, the crossings of Jordan, Galilee of the Gentiles.”

GALILEE WAS WHERE ONE OF THE LOST TRIBES INHABITED UNTIL THEY WERE TAKEN AWAY FROM THE LAND.

More proof:

:M,JJK,J:


The Book OF 2ND KINGS

18 Therefore the LORD was very angry with Israel, and removed them out of his sight: there was none left but the tribe of Judah only.

Above in green you see only judah was left but they got trampled and moved out also later on in the time of Jeremiah and Ezra

19 Also Judah kept not the commandments of the LORD their God, but walked in the statutes of Israel which they made.

20 And the LORD rejected all the seed of Israel, and afflicted them, and delivered them into the hand of spoilers, until he had cast them out of his sight.

21 For he rent Israel from the house of David; and they made Jeroboam the son of Nebat king: and Jeroboam drave Israel from following the LORD, and made them sin a great sin.

22 For the children of Israel walked in all the sins of Jeroboam which he did; they departed not from them;

23 Until the LORD removed Israel out of his sight, as he had said by all his servants the prophets. So was Israel carried away out of their own land to Assyria unto this day.

24 And the king of Assyria brought men from Babylon, and from Cuthah, and from Ava, and from Hamath, and from Sepharvaim, and placed them in the cities of Samaria instead of the children of Israel: and they possessed Samaria, and dwelt in the cities thereof.

**The king brought other foreigners into the land with all their different beliefs and paganism**
:LIIUIU:

The people who say, But was not YEHSHIYEH a Jew? are surely at odds with the scriptures. They take that passage of mis-translation about the words on the cross, and say, but see? HE was the king of the Jews.

But that was the translation of what was supposedly upon the Cross. Yes, HE was King over Judea. He is the Lion of the tribe of Judea not Jewry.

Pilate was very displeased by the conduct of the Jews at the trial of the Christ. And he suggested, ‘King of the Jews.’ But they didn’t want that becaue they were in charge of the capital of the land, the devil had plans for his own king to sit in the holy land


Therefore most people are mistaken as to the truth of the scripture because they do not understand the difference between the people of God’s Israel and these people today known as Jews, many of whom are Luciferian and edomites in all their background.

There is a minor group who are not part of this ZIONIST evil and may God BLESS THEM AND KEEP THEM but I speak of the ruling powers in judaism and politics

This shows up in all the situations which they design, for they trifled with the word of God just as they planned for the murder of the embodiment of God.
But remember this. Yehshiyah said to them, ‘You could not do this unless I lay My life down, "AND THEN TAKE IT UP AGAIN" And then they with great fear ran and hid when he was resurrected.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Your suggesting, GOD, A GALILEAN ?LOLZ sure...
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Messiah was a judean out of the tribe of judah but a citizen of galilee THE LION and the LAMB

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indoorx This thread is stooopid. Thats like saying a Californian's not an American.
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Jesus is a figment of your imagination.
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Messiah was a judean out of the tribe of judah but a citizen of galilee THE LION and the LAMB

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indoorx This thread is stooopid. Thats like saying a Californian's not an American.
 Quoting: Judethz


common sense is needed to understand this not your western ignorance
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Jesus is a figment of your imagination.
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thank GOD for my imagination
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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The genealogy of Jesus is described in two passages of the Gospels: Luke 3:23–38 and Matthew 1:1–17.

Both cite that his ancestors where Jews.
Therefore he was a Jew.
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YOUR CHURCHES WILL NOT BRING TO LIGHT THESE THINGS UNLESS YOU START READING AND PUTTING THINGS TOGETHER,PLEASE NEVER TAKE THESE TRUTHS AS A PERSONAL ATTACK ON YOU. THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO AS BROTHERS AND SISTERS TELL THE TRUTH TO ONE ANOTHER AND EVEN IF IT HURTS IT IS THE LOVE OF A FRIEND.FOR THIS REASON I AM HATED BUT I CONTINUE ON NOT BEING DISCOURAGED.



The jews were citizens of Judea the land.In the old days called Jewry.

BNFGERFR


Messiah was a judean out of the tribe of judah but a citizen of galilee THE LION and the LAMB

ioliu

Very important to get this because it will clear up the chaos when reading your bible



Now you will begin to understand how the bible translators did not take time to differentiate and called both parties Jews.Even messiah called the jews temple priests and politicians vipers murderers and dogs because they were not of the judean lineage they were mostly occupiers who were born into the culture.They were edomites and gentiles.

Most of the the Israelites were not in the land at that time since the the temple destruction in the days of ezra and jeremiah. Even in galilee there were a lot of the gentiles living there.

I will prove that also
MATT CHP 4:15

“The land of Zebulon, the land of Naphtali, the way of the sea, the crossings of Jordan, Galilee of the Gentiles.”

GALILEE WAS WHERE ONE OF THE LOST TRIBES INHABITED UNTIL THEY WERE TAKEN AWAY FROM THE LAND.

More proof:

M,JJK,J


The Book OF 2ND KINGS

18 Therefore the LORD was very angry with Israel, and removed them out of his sight: there was none left but the tribe of Judah only.

Above in green you see only judah was left but they got trampled and moved out also later on in the time of Jeremiah and Ezra

19 Also Judah kept not the commandments of the LORD their God, but walked in the statutes of Israel which they made.

20 And the LORD rejected all the seed of Israel, and afflicted them, and delivered them into the hand of spoilers, until he had cast them out of his sight.

21 For he rent Israel from the house of David; and they made Jeroboam the son of Nebat king: and Jeroboam drave Israel from following the LORD, and made them sin a great sin.

22 For the children of Israel walked in all the sins of Jeroboam which he did; they departed not from them;

23 Until the LORD removed Israel out of his sight, as he had said by all his servants the prophets. So was Israel carried away out of their own land to Assyria unto this day.

24 And the king of Assyria brought men from Babylon, and from Cuthah, and from Ava, and from Hamath, and from Sepharvaim, and placed them in the cities of Samaria instead of the children of Israel: and they possessed Samaria, and dwelt in the cities thereof.

**The king brought other foreigners into the land with all their different beliefs and paganism**
LIIUIU

The people who say, But was not YEHSHIYEH a Jew? are surely at odds with the scriptures. They take that passage of mis-translation about the words on the cross, and say, but see? HE was the king of the Jews.

But that was the translation of what was supposedly upon the Cross. Yes, HE was King over Judea. He is the Lion of the tribe of Judea not Jewry.

Pilate was very displeased by the conduct of the Jews at the trial of the Christ. And he suggested, ‘King of the Jews.’ But they didn’t want that becaue they were in charge of the capital of the land, the devil had plans for his own king to sit in the holy land


Therefore most people are mistaken as to the truth of the scripture because they do not understand the difference between the people of God’s Israel and these people today known as Jews, many of whom are Luciferian and edomites in all their background.

There is a minor group who are not part of this ZIONIST evil and may God BLESS THEM AND KEEP THEM but I speak of the ruling powers in judaism and politics

This shows up in all the situations which they design, for they trifled with the word of God just as they planned for the murder of the embodiment of God.
But remember this. Yehshiyah said to them, ‘You could not do this unless I lay My life down, "AND THEN TAKE IT UP AGAIN" And then they with great fear ran and hid when he was resurrected.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Your suggesting, GOD, A GALILEAN ?LOLZ sure...
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He sprang out out of the lineage of judah but he was not from jewry.Those were the ones called jews...they were the money changers and the politicians of the city and the priests ran the city. There were very few true native judeans in judea at that time.This the reason messiah never spent much time around there they hated him, but that was the place of his descendants.

Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 11/27/2012 12:41 AM
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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The genealogy of Jesus is described in two passages of the Gospels: Luke 3:23–38 and Matthew 1:1–17.

Both cite that his ancestors where Jews.
Therefore he was a Jew.
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not so.... his genealogy = adhoc forgery.
Now your suggesting,GOD, IS A JEW?
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The genealogy of Jesus is described in two passages of the Gospels: Luke 3:23–38 and Matthew 1:1–17.

Both cite that his ancestors where Jews.
Therefore he was a Jew.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4281714


not so.... his genealogy = adhoc forgery.
Now your suggesting,GOD, IS A JEW?
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yes he is hebrew judean by lineage but he was not from judea that is my point.

The jews born in jewry [judea] were called jews for that reason being born in judea. the majority were occupiers who dwelled and raised families under the culture

Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 11/27/2012 12:50 AM
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Here is where you fell.
This is where I got up,
Shaking off my tail
This is where your rope trick
Started to look stale.
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The genealogy of Jesus is described in two passages of the Gospels: Luke 3:23–38 and Matthew 1:1–17.

Both cite that his ancestors where Jews.
Therefore he was a Jew.
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yes he is hebrew judean by lineage but he was not from judea that is my point.

The jews born in jewry [judea] were called jews for that reason being born in judea. the majority were occupiers who dwelled and raised families under the culture

THIS IS WHY THE BOOKS WARN ABOUT THOSE WHO LIVE IN THE LAND AND CLAIM THEY ARE JUDAH AND ARE NOT. THEY ARE THE ONES WHO TOOK COUNSEL TO SLAY HIM UNDER THE THE DISGUISE OF HOLY MEN IN THE TEMPLE

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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The genealogy of Jesus is described in two passages of the Gospels: Luke 3:23–38 and Matthew 1:1–17.

Both cite that his ancestors where Jews.
Therefore he was a Jew.
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not so.... his genealogy = adhoc forgery.
Now your suggesting,GOD, IS A JEW?
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yes he is hebrew judean by lineage but he was not from judea that is my point.

The jews born in jewry [judea] were called jews for that reason being born in judea. the majority were occupiers who dwelled and raised families under the culture
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Can you not see how absurd, and preposterous you sound?
The immortal, unique, one of a kind, G O D.

NOT ONLY HAD A LINEAGE. Meaning, he was SIRED, by MORTALS.
And was a MORTAL JEW?
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So whats a galilean and what religion did they practice????
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They walked in the Written Torah. In other words they did righteousness and right ruling with love, mercy, and truth.

A far cry from talmudic judaism, and contrary to "christianty".
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The genealogy of Jesus is described in two passages of the Gospels: Luke 3:23–38 and Matthew 1:1–17.

Both cite that his ancestors where Jews.
Therefore he was a Jew.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4281714


not so.... his genealogy = adhoc forgery.
Now your suggesting,GOD, IS A JEW?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27981496


yes he is hebrew judean by lineage but he was not from judea that is my point.

The jews born in jewry [judea] were called jews for that reason being born in judea. the majority were occupiers who dwelled and raised families under the culture
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Can you not see how absurd, and preposterous you sound?
The immortal, unique, one of a kind, G O D.

NOT ONLY HAD A LINEAGE. Meaning, he was SIRED, by MORTALS.
And was a MORTAL JEW?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27981496


Actually, if you read the ancient text, in CONTEXT, the Mashiyach was the Son of Elohim and the Son of Adam.
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The genealogy of Jesus is described in two passages of the Gospels: Luke 3:23–38 and Matthew 1:1–17.

Both cite that his ancestors where Jews.
Therefore he was a Jew.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4281714


not so.... his genealogy = adhoc forgery.
Now your suggesting,GOD, IS A JEW?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27981496


yes he is hebrew judean by lineage but he was not from judea that is my point.

The jews born in jewry [judea] were called jews for that reason being born in judea. the majority were occupiers who dwelled and raised families under the culture
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Can you not see how absurd, and preposterous you sound?
The immortal, unique, one of a kind, G O D.

NOT ONLY HAD A LINEAGE. Meaning, he was SIRED, by MORTALS.
And was a MORTAL JEW?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27981496


13 At midday, O king, I saw in the way a light from heaven, above the brightness of the sun, shining round about me and them which journeyed with me.

14 And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew tongue, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.

15 And I said, Who art thou, Lord? And he said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest.
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Gotta be careful with this one. Judah remains in the Holy Land today and has ever since the Babylonian captivity. A remnant of Judah remained in Jerusalem but all the rest in the surrounding territories were carried away. During the division of the original tribes after David, Judah stayed in the South and the other tribes in the North. The Northern tribes were called Israel. They went into the Assyrian captivity first before the Babylonian captivity that carried away most of Judah.

As the tribes migrated North including those in Babylon that did not return back to Judea, they became known as Sakka and later Scythians/Caucasians. These were the same that went around the Caspian and Black seas and moved northward into Eastern Europe and then moved Westward. The tribes taken into Assyrian captivity later became known as the Chimereans/Cimbri. They would move Westward and move into a major portion of Europe and become the Celts.

All of these ancient peoples mixed within Europe and basically became the nations of today in Europe and eventually America. Modern Archaeology supports all of this.

Our kinship to the people of the nation-state of Israel is much deeper than UN mandates and borders. It's blood. It's about all the tribes of Israel(Jacob) fulfilling the Covenant that is between Abraham and God.

We are warned in Revelation 3:9 that we must beware of those that claim to be of our brother Judah but are not. They are of Satan. But don't get caught up into a witch hunt. You know them by their fruits.

The Jews that like to spit out the Gentile word all the time do not realize that the word actually means nations and the nations it is referring to are the nations that have sprung forth from Abraham's seed. These are the nations of the tribes of Israel.

Support our true brother Judah from the children of Ishmael, the children of Esau, and the strangers from the East.

Finally, we also know that God's people were to be known by a new name in the latter days. That name is Christians. When people hate Christians and say things like destroy Israel, they say these things in ignorance. For America, Canada, Europe, and Australia is Israel.

Ishmael is truly a wild man today for he is against everyone and everyone is against him. Esau still despises Jacob. And the strangers of the East will try to come against Israel in great multitudes.

God is in control.
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Gotta be careful with this one. Judah remains in the Holy Land today and has ever since the Babylonian captivity. A remnant of Judah remained in Jerusalem but all the rest in the surrounding territories were carried away. During the division of the original tribes after David, Judah stayed in the South and the other tribes in the North. The Northern tribes were called Israel. They went into the Assyrian captivity first before the Babylonian captivity that carried away most of Judah.

As the tribes migrated North including those in Babylon that did not return back to Judea, they became known as Sakka and later Scythians/Caucasians. These were the same that went around the Caspian and Black seas and moved northward into Eastern Europe and then moved Westward. The tribes taken into Assyrian captivity later became known as the Chimereans/Cimbri. They would move Westward and move into a major portion of Europe and become the Celts.

All of these ancient peoples mixed within Europe and basically became the nations of today in Europe and eventually America. Modern Archaeology supports all of this.

Our kinship to the people of the nation-state of Israel is much deeper than UN mandates and borders. It's blood. It's about all the tribes of Israel(Jacob) fulfilling the Covenant that is between Abraham and God.

We are warned in Revelation 3:9 that we must beware of those that claim to be of our brother Judah but are not. They are of Satan. But don't get caught up into a witch hunt. You know them by their fruits.

The Jews that like to spit out the Gentile word all the time do not realize that the word actually means nations and the nations it is referring to are the nations that have sprung forth from Abraham's seed. These are the nations of the tribes of Israel.

Support our true brother Judah from the children of Ishmael, the children of Esau, and the strangers from the East.

Finally, we also know that God's people were to be known by a new name in the latter days. That name is Christians. When people hate Christians and say things like destroy Israel, they say these things in ignorance. For America, Canada, Europe, and Australia is Israel.

Ishmael is truly a wild man today for he is against everyone and everyone is against him. Esau still despises Jacob. And the strangers of the East will try to come against Israel in great multitudes.

God is in control.
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there are few and I am very cautious of that but the books have not lied
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Gotta be careful with this one. Judah remains in the Holy Land today and has ever since the Babylonian captivity. A remnant of Judah remained in Jerusalem but all the rest in the surrounding territories were carried away. During the division of the original tribes after David, Judah stayed in the South and the other tribes in the North. The Northern tribes were called Israel. They went into the Assyrian captivity first before the Babylonian captivity that carried away most of Judah.

As the tribes migrated North including those in Babylon that did not return back to Judea, they became known as Sakka and later Scythians/Caucasians. These were the same that went around the Caspian and Black seas and moved northward into Eastern Europe and then moved Westward. The tribes taken into Assyrian captivity later became known as the Chimereans/Cimbri. They would move Westward and move into a major portion of Europe and become the Celts.

All of these ancient peoples mixed within Europe and basically became the nations of today in Europe and eventually America. Modern Archaeology supports all of this.

Our kinship to the people of the nation-state of Israel is much deeper than UN mandates and borders. It's blood. It's about all the tribes of Israel(Jacob) fulfilling the Covenant that is between Abraham and God.

We are warned in Revelation 3:9 that we must beware of those that claim to be of our brother Judah but are not. They are of Satan. But don't get caught up into a witch hunt. You know them by their fruits.

The Jews that like to spit out the Gentile word all the time do not realize that the word actually means nations and the nations it is referring to are the nations that have sprung forth from Abraham's seed. These are the nations of the tribes of Israel.

Support our true brother Judah from the children of Ishmael, the children of Esau, and the strangers from the East.

Finally, we also know that God's people were to be known by a new name in the latter days. That name is Christians. When people hate Christians and say things like destroy Israel, they say these things in ignorance. For America, Canada, Europe, and Australia is Israel.

Ishmael is truly a wild man today for he is against everyone and everyone is against him. Esau still despises Jacob. And the strangers of the East will try to come against Israel in great multitudes.

God is in control.
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there are few and I am very cautious of that but the books have not lied
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That is true, the books have not lied.

Just as God said that He would have spared Sodom and Gomorrah if even 10 righteous would have been found within those city walls, we must also be supporting of the remnant of Judah. We must also not forget that many, many Christians live in Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and Egypt.

Our fight is not with each other, but it is against those that would destroy the fig tree planted in 1948. Our true brother Judah must remain and we must be firm.

It is a hard battle when most have lost their ancestral identity. But that happens after a few thousand years.
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Matthew 2 is clear on this. He was born in Judea and the they fled to Egypt cause King Harrod wanted to kill him. They returned after Harrods death but not to Judea but to Galilee in a city called Nazareth. There for if you insist that those bor in Judea are Jews, then he was also.
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Our kinship to the people of the nation-state of Israel is much deeper than UN mandates and borders. It's blood. It's about all the tribes of Israel(Jacob) fulfilling the Covenant that is between Abraham and God.

We are warned in Revelation 3:9 that we must beware of those that claim to be of our brother Judah but are not. They are of Satan. But don't get caught up into a witch hunt. You know them by their fruits.

Support our true brother Judah from the children of Ishmael, the children of Esau, and the strangers from the East.

Ishmael is truly a wild man today for he is against everyone and everyone is against him. Esau still despises Jacob. And the strangers of the East will try to come against Israel in great multitudes.

God is in control.
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I don't see how Ishmael fits in your description. He was the son of Abraham. Isaac was the son of Abraham.

Isaac's children were Esau and Jacob (Israel)

The 12 sons of Israel (Jacob) were Reuben, Simeon, Levi, Judah, Issachar, Zebulun, Benjamin, Dan, Naphtali, Gad, Asher and Joseph. These were the ancestors of the original twelve tribes.

So the tribe of Judah were Isaac's descendants. Where now does Ishmael fit in?
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In the final parts of the last tribulation the prophecy was 'those in Judea should leave when they see an abomination'. That isn't a reference to 'Jews' as in the ones Jesus chastised in Matthew 23, it is Gentiles doing the same things that pissed God off before the flood, while standing in the area marked my the borders of OT and NT Judea, this time it is fire that is sent, problems all solved forever, on with the original show.

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