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Anonymous Coward User ID: 28990086 China 12/03/2012 09:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Imagine trying to explain an apple to a two dimensional being. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14093935 It wouldn't have a clue as to what you are describing. It has no concept of 3 dimensions. It doesn't know what "up" is. The only way it could understand would be to slowly pass the apple through it's plane of existance, and let it circle around it section by section, until it had seen every part of the apple. It would probably get frustrated at first, wondering why it you wanted it to constantly circle the same red wall over and over. Sometimes the journey was short...other times it was long...and at the end the big red wall became a very small brown wall that eventually disappeared. But then, hopefully...like that wax on wax off scene from the karate kid...it would come to a sudden epiphany and understanding of the higher meaning...placing all it had experienced into one greater comprehension of truth. Suddenly, In it's minds eye, it could understand the apple! Of course it couldn't explain it to others in the 2d realm...there was no way too. They would have to experience the epiphany for themselves...by walking the same journey and seeing each piece until they could put it all together. Some never did, even after seeing all the parts. They just never got the epiphany. Now consider the 3d world you live in. Consider the paths you walk and the decisions you make. Consider your lifes journey and the things and people you encounter along the way. It may not all make sense to you now...but in time you may see. And perhaps, just perhaps, God is trying to show you something. But also remember that just like the apple passing through the plane...there is space above and space below. Listen to that which comes from above. Do not follow the paths and leadings of that which comes from below. In time, you will understand. Are you saying to map an apple into two dimensional space ? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 9905909 United States 12/03/2012 10:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Imagine trying to explain an apple to a two dimensional being. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14093935 Suddenly, In it's minds eye, it could understand the apple! Some never did, even after seeing all the parts. They just never got the epiphany. Consider your lifes journey and the things and people you encounter along the way. And perhaps, just perhaps, God is trying to show you something. ...there is space above and space below. Listen to that which comes from above. Do not follow the paths and leadings of that which comes from below. In time, you will understand. these words mean different things to different humans. meaning the same thing as you i would use the reverse analogy: feel from below, ignore (salt well) the above. why? u might ask. because, my experience of the 'above' are my thoughts, the fast squirmy bits that zip thru my 'upper' mind: spurious and often misleading are these ideas from the 'top of my mind'. i have watched them flux and morph constantly presenting new and often incorrect viewoints: this 'concious' mind of mine. i see it'above' me. but when i make art and when i move with the flow, my upper thoughts are calm and stick to the task at hand, playing their proper roll in the moment, but leaving the true guiding to *feelings* that for me , come from bellow: from the depths of my true mind that my thought mind just cannot touch. the quite thoiughts/feelings that 'rise' to the surface while my busy mind is distracted and quiesent: these do i trust and when i allow myself to be guided by these frequently "irrational' (means to 'reasonable' explanation) that my life flows in unpredictably wonderfull ways. Yoda said it best: "Trust your feelings" for me, my feelings come from bellow. and 'trust' works better than 'understanding'. if God is trying to show me something, She is also trying to see something: We are not Separate. someday we will all understand this truth: it kinda changes everything. |
andreidita User ID: 4637432 Romania 12/03/2012 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | these words mean different things to different humans. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9905909 meaning the same thing as you i would use the reverse analogy: feel from below, ignore (salt well) the above. why? u might ask. because, my experience of the 'above' are my thoughts, the fast squirmy bits that zip thru my 'upper' mind: spurious and often misleading are these ideas from the 'top of my mind'. i have watched them flux and morph constantly presenting new and often incorrect viewoints: this 'concious' mind of mine. i see it'above' me. but when i make art and when i move with the flow, my upper thoughts are calm and stick to the task at hand, playing their proper roll in the moment, but leaving the true guiding to *feelings* that for me , come from bellow: from the depths of my true mind that my thought mind just cannot touch. the quite thoiughts/feelings that 'rise' to the surface while my busy mind is distracted and quiesent: these do i trust and when i allow myself to be guided by these frequently "irrational' (means to 'reasonable' explanation) that my life flows in unpredictably wonderfull ways. Yoda said it best: "Trust your feelings" for me, my feelings come from bellow. and 'trust' works better than 'understanding'. if God is trying to show me something, She is also trying to see something: We are not Separate. someday we will all understand this truth: it kinda changes everything. so very true. but to take the metaphor a little further that depth of your true mind resides in the heart and heart is in the middle, upper than below (animal separatist instincts) and lower than upper (buzzing rational mind who is easily lost in conflicting fleeting thoughts) :) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 19398438 United States 12/03/2012 11:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Op you seem to have deep understanding of the physical and spiritual planes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28979819 I tell people all the time "nothing is real, everything is possible" because I have figured out that we have the ability in the 4th dimensional plane to shape our reality, just like in our dreams. Let me explain what dreams really are. When entering dreams, we sort of "astral walk". Our consciousness appears for a short period of time in the higher plane and gives us a grasp of what it's like. For those who have the ability of lucid dreaming: Lucid Dreaming IS a foreshadowing of Reality shaping. for those who had glimpses of etheric reality (i.e. OBE as opposed to lucid dreaming) in full consciousness, the illusion of 3d plane as being all there is to reality is forever shattered. Really? Is it that eye opening? Are you saying you already experienced etheric reality? Please answer me I need answers this is fucking important to me Be still and know that you are God. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6493463 United States 12/03/2012 11:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Imagine trying to explain an apple to a two dimensional being. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14093935 It wouldn't have a clue as to what you are describing. It has no concept of 3 dimensions. It doesn't know what "up" is. The only way it could understand would be to slowly pass the apple through it's plane of existance, and let it circle around it section by section, until it had seen every part of the apple. It would probably get frustrated at first, wondering why it you wanted it to constantly circle the same red wall over and over. Sometimes the journey was short...other times it was long...and at the end the big red wall became a very small brown wall that eventually disappeared. But then, hopefully...like that wax on wax off scene from the karate kid...it would come to a sudden epiphany and understanding of the higher meaning...placing all it had experienced into one greater comprehension of truth. Suddenly, In it's minds eye, it could understand the apple! Of course it couldn't explain it to others in the 2d realm...there was no way too. They would have to experience the epiphany for themselves...by walking the same journey and seeing each piece until they could put it all together. Some never did, even after seeing all the parts. They just never got the epiphany. Now consider the 3d world you live in. Consider the paths you walk and the decisions you make. Consider your lifes journey and the things and people you encounter along the way. It may not all make sense to you now...but in time you may see. And perhaps, just perhaps, God is trying to show you something. But also remember that just like the apple passing through the plane...there is space above and space below. Listen to that which comes from above. Do not follow the paths and leadings of that which comes from below. In time, you will understand. You would enjoy the book "Flatland". |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26082320 United States 12/03/2012 11:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Imagine trying to explain an apple to a two dimensional being. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14093935 It wouldn't have a clue as to what you are describing. It has no concept of 3 dimensions. It doesn't know what "up" is. Sure, it can't understand more than 2 dimensions because it lives in 2 dimensions. But you have no problem understanding more than 3 dimensions, even though you live in 3 dimensions. Ok dude. Do we? We don't understand time, yet. Time isn't linear, like everyone suggests. Time is one point. That is what's all about. Now, try to imagine time as point. Past, present, future at one point. It's impossible to imagine. Our bodies are at too lower vibratory rates to comprehend the real concept of time as point. If you're vibrating "too lower" then just stick yourself in a big microwave oven for about 2 miinutes...yeah, that's all you need. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1898146 United States 12/03/2012 11:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For me, yes... prayer with the will to look through the veil or lattice .... to the sighting of subatomic before my eyes!!!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1898146 what you describe here, i associate with an experience in which, after i read the book of revelations and another book and made certain clicks, it seems i reached such an elevated state of mind, that when i went to bed and closed my eyes, i saw a tiny dot on inner vision, that i could focus into, and go through it with my consciousness in a place with electric blue kind of spheres interconnected with many threads. YES as if snow but not necessarily continuing to fall. floating "through" and dazzaling! almost slow mo to no mo at all : ) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28993055 Brazil 12/03/2012 11:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People can understand what is the others higher dimensions, but is too dificult to experience that directly, especially for us western untrained people. Fortunately we (humankind) received this miraculous gift, we just need a 100 ml of Ayahuasca, to recover momentarily this sense. His work [link to alexgrey.com] I will post a detailed thread, when i have some time... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1327743 Canada 12/03/2012 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stand upright and tall, keep your feet on the ground, etc. The danger of it is that your butt in always closer, or DIRECTLY on the ground, where evil can access you easily. Seriously. Also the REASON that gothic doorways are pointed, is so that spirits cannot rest in wait for a person to be entered from above as they pass through portals between spaces. So, LOOK IT UP! And T H I N K. Desperate spirits, must be REJOYCING now .. . eh? Rock on.. Try Spring by Vivaldi, and the other seasons too. ALL men IN GOOD season, with GOOD Hearte living in anticipation of these trials to PROVE his W O R T H. I'm SURE intelligence IS one of them. s'ok if you bought in, because NOW THAT YOU UNDERSTAND, you CAN 'buy OUT!' But then you CANNOT go back. Strong, you think?? REALLY? PROVE IT. eYeah, it ain't as easy as it looks bruthas n' sistas.. BEG for assistance from all that is good and pure in YOUR consciousness circles, and expand it to encompass the ENTIRE multiverse. Sing it. Strength IS yours. Love may also be a panacea for all that is dysfunctional. How CLEVER. .. to pacify SO easily. ever been H U R T? H O W. I'll just BET L O V E, had something to DO with it, eh? Let alone substances .. what a racket.. Existence of a thing is not an allowance, but a TEST. Pass it. The WAY is VERY narrow, the LIGHT; is it what is seems? ILLUMINATION? r u sure, that is GOOD? The 'love' of WHAT! eYeah, I'm seeing some looking UNDER that veil now. Bravo! Write your thoughts down, FAR from 'cell'towers plez. n' git yerselves some ORGANITE yesterday! Busters UNITE. It will COME from within, and ALL of us together IS STRENGTH at its MAXIMUM. JOIN together for the GOOD OF ALL, PERIOD. Where more than two come with INTENT, it is done. good or bad does not exist, what works, and what doesn't is all that there is on THIS plane. STRENGTH. Use it W I S E L Y. or wait another few thousand years, whatever .. Functional Blessings for our union together in growth to the pure within us all, UNTAINTED and dirty no longer. I hope I can justify eating as an animal, however on this BASIC plane it is a test. We are but animals existing in a surface that is constantly changing. What manner of hell IS this.. ESCAPE it. btw, the HEART HAS 'brain' cells IN IT, the 'brain,' NOTHING of the Heart.. look it up.. And unless YOU HAVE FOUR stomachs, NEVER eat livestock food, grains, legumes, grasses. It NEGATIVELY affects your internal BUFFERS, so get MAGNESIUM to survive. IRON IS A POISION, by depletion of COPPER alone, it forces women to SURVIVE longer than men, simply because they BLEED IT OUT through menses, and childbirth. Unless a boxer, serviceman, or a really clumsy guy, you will expire first in your relationship if age related. It's ALL there for ALL with EYES to see, and EARS to hear. The iron thingy STARTED in the EARLY 1500's; ODDLY ENOUGH just about the time SHAKESPEARE WROTE THE BIBLE, like KUBRICK DID THE MOON LANDINGS. Yea, everybody KNOWS that coin talks, WHEN BULLSHIT walks in jinglejangling their overflowing pockets. Slave much? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21363812 Canada 12/03/2012 12:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yes, we live in 4 dimmensions: x,z,y(3D space) plus time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28986397 temperature is energy potential of particular object or system, thus temperature IS energy that we can understand this way. einstein's famous equation is E=m.c2, which means EVERYTHING is energy in our 4D reality, some energy is in densier form (tangible fixed objects) other is less dense (electromagnetism => e.g. light) i believe some individuals may have a glimpse of higher dimmensions, but i think it is impossible to understand more than 4D with our 3D brains floating through the fourth dimmension (time). if i say i do understand 4D (which i don't :), it means that 'now', 'yesterday' or 'tommorow' are meaningless words ;) Wonderful post... wisdom within. .... that there is only ONE here now, with infinite simultaneous and parallel realities, perspective being the interpretation of the here now :) if God is trying to show me something, She is also trying to see something: We are not Separate. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9905909 Huge smile :) As unique aspects of All That Is, we ARE the experience of All That Is! so very true. Quoting: andreidita but to take the metaphor a little further that depth of your true mind resides in the heart and heart is in the middle, upper than below (animal separatist instincts) and lower than upper (buzzing rational mind who is easily lost in conflicting fleeting thoughts) :) Heart centered!! Awesome thread!! Thanx OP! Kismet |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21363812 Canada 12/03/2012 12:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stand upright and tall, keep your feet on the ground, etc. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1327743 The danger of it is that your butt in always closer, or DIRECTLY on the ground, where evil can access you easily. Seriously. Also the REASON that gothic doorways are pointed, is so that spirits cannot rest in wait for a person to be entered from above as they pass through portals between spaces. So, LOOK IT UP! And T H I N K. Desperate spirits, must be REJOYCING now .. . eh? Rock on.. Try Spring by Vivaldi, and the other seasons too. ALL men IN GOOD season, with GOOD Hearte living in anticipation of these trials to PROVE his W O R T H. I'm SURE intelligence IS one of them. s'ok if you bought in, because NOW THAT YOU UNDERSTAND, you CAN 'buy OUT!' But then you CANNOT go back. Strong, you think?? REALLY? PROVE IT. eYeah, it ain't as easy as it looks bruthas n' sistas.. BEG for assistance from all that is good and pure in YOUR consciousness circles, and expand it to encompass the ENTIRE multiverse. Sing it. Strength IS yours. Love may also be a panacea for all that is dysfunctional. How CLEVER. .. to pacify SO easily. ever been H U R T? H O W. I'll just BET L O V E, had something to DO with it, eh? Let alone substances .. what a racket.. Existence of a thing is not an allowance, but a TEST. Pass it. The WAY is VERY narrow, the LIGHT; is it what is seems? ILLUMINATION? r u sure, that is GOOD? The 'love' of WHAT! eYeah, I'm seeing some looking UNDER that veil now. Bravo! Write your thoughts down, FAR from 'cell'towers plez. n' git yerselves some ORGANITE yesterday! Busters UNITE. It will COME from within, and ALL of us together IS STRENGTH at its MAXIMUM. JOIN together for the GOOD OF ALL, PERIOD. Where more than two come with INTENT, it is done. good or bad does not exist, what works, and what doesn't is all that there is on THIS plane. STRENGTH. Use it W I S E L Y. or wait another few thousand years, whatever .. Functional Blessings for our union together in growth to the pure within us all, UNTAINTED and dirty no longer. I hope I can justify eating as an animal, however on this BASIC plane it is a test. We are but animals existing in a surface that is constantly changing. What manner of hell IS this.. ESCAPE it. btw, the HEART HAS 'brain' cells IN IT, the 'brain,' NOTHING of the Heart.. look it up.. And unless YOU HAVE FOUR stomachs, NEVER eat livestock food, grains, legumes, grasses. It NEGATIVELY affects your internal BUFFERS, so get MAGNESIUM to survive. IRON IS A POISION, by depletion of COPPER alone, it forces women to SURVIVE longer than men, simply because they BLEED IT OUT through menses, and childbirth. Unless a boxer, serviceman, or a really clumsy guy, you will expire first in your relationship if age related. It's ALL there for ALL with EYES to see, and EARS to hear. The iron thingy STARTED in the EARLY 1500's; ODDLY ENOUGH just about the time SHAKESPEARE WROTE THE BIBLE, like KUBRICK DID THE MOON LANDINGS. Yea, everybody KNOWS that coin talks, WHEN BULLSHIT walks in jinglejangling their overflowing pockets. Slave much? Wow, what a (thoughtful) multi-tasker you are :) This post bears reading a second and third time! Kismet |
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(òÓ,)_\,,/ User ID: 1306691 Puerto Rico 12/03/2012 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What kind of radio do i need to buy to listen to planes radio transmission from above. Maybe there is an app for my phone. Must be boring anyway, what do i care what pilots says to the towers in airports. And why is god trying to say something with planes, why can't he just say it. What planes, civilian? military? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28993055 Brazil 12/03/2012 01:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Imagine your brain having tentacles of energy reaching out and above. They can grab energy and culminate objects from other tentacles of unsuspecting minds. Quoting: poolYea is it, this would imply a total empathy and consequent return to symbiosis with nature, and with ours race brothers. The cancer is the disorderly growing of the cells, because those cells lost the conection with their whole organism, and attacks itself, because thinks is a separate thing... |
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CripplingLies User ID: 5010858 Brazil 12/03/2012 01:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP's explanation is just a summary of the book "Flatland", go search it, the e-book is free out there |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25601325 United States 12/03/2012 02:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yep. The journey is a 4-D and 5D higher dimensional pathway through life based upon decisions and changes in perspective and ontology. When we "see" it, by going with the flow, and ultimately passing through all the pathways of initiation, we understand what reality is, simply for what it is. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28825961 United States 12/03/2012 03:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | placing all it had experienced into one greater comprehension of truth. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14093935 Then the two demensional being would exclaim "Aha! That which you call an apple, I know as an aardvark!". To which many would shake their heads in dismay and shout "Die heretic!" "That which we proclaimed an apple, must be an apple!" |
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