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Anonymous Coward User ID: 30198528 United States 12/19/2012 06:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This entire ordeal doesn't sit well with me at all. If it were a few inconsistencies I might raise a brow but absolutely everything about this story is off. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1550123 United States 12/19/2012 06:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if the faces were almost gone, wouldn't they need the parents to identify the bodies? birthmarks, etc? Quoting: chula homa i can identify my kids with only their hands or feet. i know my kids that well and i am sure other parents can do this too. feet and hands are truly unique. so no need to see the face. That's not the point. The point is that authorities and parents say they had to ID their children by "facial photos". If they were not allowed to see their children due to the horrendous damage done to their faces and heads by multiple gunshots, HOW would they identify them by photos? so they wouldn't let the parents identify them by any other way? that would be messed up. most parents know their kids even if the face is gone. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30333677 United Kingdom 12/19/2012 06:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The rest of the kids in the school were forced to keep their eyes closed when leaving. Authorities swoop in, take control of the bodies, and denies any family members to see them. They are shown pictures, which may or may not have been real. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27571238 I think, and this is my conclusion on the matter...that 12/21/12 is here, the end of the Mayan long-count, an equinox that won't happen again for thousands of years...and the Satanic Bastages that run this nation needed some extra special sacrifices for the event...with the added bonus of stirring up their minions on the ground and the sheeple in general, to get their gun control measures passed...so they can do their major crackdown in the years ahead... Yes, I believe it's that evil and that bad now. Goddam! Well said! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 15326304 United States 12/19/2012 06:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if the faces were almost gone, wouldn't they need the parents to identify the bodies? birthmarks, etc? Quoting: chula homa i can identify my kids with only their hands or feet. i know my kids that well and i am sure other parents can do this too. feet and hands are truly unique. so no need to see the face. That's not the point. The point is that authorities and parents say they had to ID their children by "facial photos". If they were not allowed to see their children due to the horrendous damage done to their faces and heads by multiple gunshots, HOW would they identify them by photos? by this years yearbook photo? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30358703 United Kingdom 12/19/2012 06:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | would you want to see your child all shot up, or shot in the head? I would think not and I am a parent. if you are not a parent you may not understand. Quoting: Rochelle damn straight, as a parent you have a right to conclude that they have died by seeing it, as seeing is believing otherwise there will be severe psychological problems |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 30333677 United Kingdom 12/19/2012 06:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A boy who loved tacos so much that he wanted to run a taco factory when he grew up. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28368227 Taco's aren't made in a factory...this is a bullshit story That's right! They're all lovingly made by hand, by jolly, Mariachi-serenaded Mexican peasants! Dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27302306 United States 12/19/2012 06:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Okay fine... the assholes wouldn't let the parents see the bodies while they were in their custody. AFTER the body is released to the funeral home it only takes a request to the funeral director to SEE THE BODY...even if the family chooses not to have an open casket, for whatever reason... the family is ALWAYS allowed to view the body of their relative. IF they were denied viewing at the funeral home... houston we have a problem. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27704375 United States 12/19/2012 06:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That is just BULLSHIT. What proof do any of those parents have that their children even DIED that day?? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18040556 Fuckin PICTURES?? Like they couldn't be manipulated. I would scream bloody murder and shit little green apples before they could keep my away from seeing my kid. I don't care if their face was blown off...I would still know if it was my child or not How can these parents be so blind to what's going on? THose poor kids. If they're not really dead by rifle then they have been kidnapped and await and fate WORSE than death. Shit. And it could be theorized that it was "convenient" for the authorities to state, after initial reports, that the poor children were shot "multiple" times, which would give them an "excuse" as to why they would deny parents the right to see them. Excuse is right. BULLSHIT, You could show me my kids foot or Hand ..and I would KNOW it was my kid. You don't need to show me the bullet wounds altho let's be clear here, after they are dead and the bleeding stops, the wound can totally be cleaned up and even sewn together (except a head shot to the face of course) so you would see nothing much but a suture wound. So....if thats the case ...how come all 40 parents (Mom and Dad) aren't seeing their kids? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30353078 United States 12/19/2012 06:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if the faces were almost gone, wouldn't they need the parents to identify the bodies? birthmarks, etc? Quoting: chula homa i can identify my kids with only their hands or feet. i know my kids that well and i am sure other parents can do this too. feet and hands are truly unique. so no need to see the face. That's not the point. The point is that authorities and parents say they had to ID their children by "facial photos". If they were not allowed to see their children due to the horrendous damage done to their faces and heads by multiple gunshots, HOW would they identify them by photos? by this years yearbook photo? But if the authorities said the parents could not see their children because the damage to their faces and heads was so severe, then how would they match photos taken before the shooting? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15326304 United States 12/19/2012 06:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | answer me damit anyone Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15326304 will this goto a court of law or is this the closet to the truth we will get from the media and thats it does it goto court in a murder suicide? Never happen, amigo. Never happen. so this will not goto a court ? and based on this we are going to lose our right to defend ourselves? u got to be fuking kidding me |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27531391 United States 12/19/2012 06:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fucking assholes...they don't own these bodies... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28368227 [link to www.huffingtonpost.ca] Her Canadian-born father, Gilles Rousseau, told Radio-Canada that he wanted to see his daughter's body but was informed by authorities that it would not be possible. In a tearful interview, he said the rounds used were so powerful that they ripped through the school's walls and left several holes in his daughter's car outside in the parking lot. "They told me, 'You can't see (the body),'" Gilles Rousseau told Radio-Canada, the French-language CBC. "Because most people he shot, it was two or three shots in the face, point-blank." Okay, can we at least see THESE pictures???!! These alleged holes in walls and holes in cars???? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30353078 United States 12/19/2012 06:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Speaking of yearbooks... Didn't I read the Parker kid didnt have a pic in it? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1465705 You know the one ppl r sending money for to that fake parent... The one who can't gin up a real tear for his child.. And WHY would any of these parents need memorial funds? That is an affluent area and evidently, all the parents are realatively wealthy. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30353078 United States 12/19/2012 06:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Okay fine... the assholes wouldn't let the parents see the bodies while they were in their custody. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27302306 AFTER the body is released to the funeral home it only takes a request to the funeral director to SEE THE BODY...even if the family chooses not to have an open casket, for whatever reason... the family is ALWAYS allowed to view the body of their relative. IF they were denied viewing at the funeral home... houston we have a problem. Go watch the Anderson Cooper interview with the couple of the little girl named Grace. It's clear that they were not able to see her - they did not CHOSE to not see her, but said it was ok with them because they'd rather remember her as she was. Parents should have the option and may choose not to see them, but they should not be denied that right. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30353078 United States 12/19/2012 06:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just read a report, from a publication that we can't link to, that said the parents ID victims from photographs the police took inside the school.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1478493 That's what I've been asking - if they used photos before the shooting and the children were allegedly shot so horrendously and multiple times in the face and head, HOW would they ID them with photos taken before? But if they used photos taken AFTER the shooting and they showed those to parents, why wouldn't the parents have the OPTION to either see the bodies or not? It's convoluted "logic". |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25400707 United States 12/19/2012 06:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No one wants to see their child like that. My imagination is often worse than reality - I would need to see my child or there would be no chance of real closure. Quoting: RoxykinsIII I totally agree. I'm a parent of a Kindergartener and a 3rd grader. As horrifying and unreal as this must be for any parent, I don't think I could have closure if I didn't see the body with my own eyes. Seeing the body would surely haunt me for the rest of my life, but so would not seeing the body...I think. Who knows what I would actually do if I were in the hell that these parents are in, of course I'm saying what I *think* I would do if it were me but in the hell of the moment, who knows. I pray that these parents can just breathe, God knows I couldn't if it were my child. |
truthwillsetyoufreeagain User ID: 23952927 United States 12/19/2012 06:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No one wants to see their child like that. My imagination is often worse than reality - I would need to see my child or there would be no chance of real closure. Quoting: RoxykinsIII That is what I too think. I would not have closure. What you would have is a vision in your brain that would haunt you for the rest of your life. The Coroner said that each child had five to 11 gunshot wounds. Besides that, did you ever see a person who is dead? Depending on the circumstances obviously, but the best will be a person who kind of resembles your loved one but looks extremely weird and it's very surreal. So these children will look like that plus be riddled with gunshot holes. By law a person has to be identified by someone. I would insist that a relative do so. When I lost two close relatives, one young and the other one fairly young, the Coroner asked me if I wanted to identify the bodies. I froze. My aunt stepped in and said no, that she'll do it. She went through a door with the assistant looking like my aunt, and came out barely recognizable. It was the shock and grief of what she saw that changed her. Last Edited by truthwillsetyoufreeagain on 12/19/2012 06:39 PM ______________ As long as I am an American citizen and American blood runs in these veins I shall hold myself at liberty to speak, to write, and to publish whatever I please on any subject.” - Elijah Parish Lovejoy(1802-1837) All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent...Thomas Jefferson The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government...Thomas Jefferson When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty...Thomas Jefferson Truth will ultimately prevail where there is pains to bring it to light...George Washington |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 30353078 United States 12/19/2012 06:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That is just BULLSHIT. What proof do any of those parents have that their children even DIED that day?? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18040556 Fuckin PICTURES?? Like they couldn't be manipulated. I would scream bloody murder and shit little green apples before they could keep my away from seeing my kid. I don't care if their face was blown off...I would still know if it was my child or not How can these parents be so blind to what's going on? THose poor kids. If they're not really dead by rifle then they have been kidnapped and await and fate WORSE than death. Shit. And it could be theorized that it was "convenient" for the authorities to state, after initial reports, that the poor children were shot "multiple" times, which would give them an "excuse" as to why they would deny parents the right to see them. Excuse is right. BULLSHIT, You could show me my kids foot or Hand ..and I would KNOW it was my kid. You don't need to show me the bullet wounds altho let's be clear here, after they are dead and the bleeding stops, the wound can totally be cleaned up and even sewn together (except a head shot to the face of course) so you would see nothing much but a suture wound. So....if thats the case ...how come all 40 parents (Mom and Dad) aren't seeing their kids? It is inexplicable, inexcusable that the authorities make such claims and that ANY parents would accept being told they cannot see their own children. It would be horrible, horrible for a parent to have to view their dead child's body especially if there were obvious wounds . . . but I believe it would be FAR more traumatic for parents to not have closure by being able to verify for themselves. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15326304 United States 12/19/2012 06:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | answer me damit anyone Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15326304 will this goto a court of law or is this the closet to the truth we will get from the media and thats it does it goto court in a murder suicide? Never happen, amigo. Never happen. so this will not goto a court ? and based on this we are going to lose our right to defend ourselves? u got to be fuking kidding me damit anybody know the law please will this case go in front of a judge with real evidence in a murder suicide crime or we just get the media's version and lose our freedoms? |