Iowa court rules boss can fire employee he considers an ‘irresistible attraction’ | |
BlueSage 13 (OP) User ID: 30140528 United States 12/22/2012 07:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My magic is both from Source and Soul. I love everything for what it is...a means to an end. I love the fact we are all puzzle pieces to a Grand Master Design. Oh God, where art though? Why must our souls be shards, is it a dirty trick or lesson or a test? Our free will is nearly begotten. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 536600 United States 12/22/2012 07:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I see the legal point. Everything else about it strikes me as so unfair, to everyone involved, no matter how the ruling came down that it's difficult to think of an option with a superior outcome. It was the employers problem, not the employees, and did hint at sexual harassment, since it threatened and in fact removed the ladies employment, during a depression none the less, because the boss had inappropriate feelings. He couldn't quit though, given the nature of the work, so what else could have been done. (Provided he found himself unable to control his feelings.) It sucks all the way around, but I have to agree that it seems like the only thing that might work. |
BlueSage 13 (OP) User ID: 30140528 United States 12/22/2012 07:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I see the legal point. Everything else about it strikes me as so unfair, to everyone involved, no matter how the ruling came down that it's difficult to think of an option with a superior outcome. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 536600 It was the employers problem, not the employees, and did hint at sexual harassment, since it threatened and in fact removed the ladies employment, during a depression none the less, because the boss had inappropriate feelings. He couldn't quit though, given the nature of the work, so what else could have been done. (Provided he found himself unable to control his feelings.) It sucks all the way around, but I have to agree that it seems like the only thing that might work. I'm just glad the ideals of "victim" were removed. Probably firs time in legal history the idea of victim thrown out the window. Cheers! My magic is both from Source and Soul. I love everything for what it is...a means to an end. I love the fact we are all puzzle pieces to a Grand Master Design. Oh God, where art though? Why must our souls be shards, is it a dirty trick or lesson or a test? Our free will is nearly begotten. |
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BlueSage 13 (OP) User ID: 30140528 United States 12/22/2012 08:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If I was married, and my husband was sexually attractive to his assistant, I would demand that she be fired as well. Quoting: samanthasunflower She should be given an good reference and shown the door. No-on is owed a job. ^ This. My magic is both from Source and Soul. I love everything for what it is...a means to an end. I love the fact we are all puzzle pieces to a Grand Master Design. Oh God, where art though? Why must our souls be shards, is it a dirty trick or lesson or a test? Our free will is nearly begotten. |
usagi yojimbo User ID: 23005868 United States 12/22/2012 08:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | while i agree that any business owner should fire anyone they see unfit or a deterrent that would cause a company to act differently than normal; it's stupid if you stop to think about it. Basically this is the Muslim approach to a situation. You're turning your inability of self control into a legal issue of female attractiveness. STUPID.... |
BlueSage 13 (OP) User ID: 30140528 United States 12/22/2012 08:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | while i agree that any business owner should fire anyone they see unfit or a deterrent that would cause a company to act differently than normal; it's stupid if you stop to think about it. Quoting: usagi yojimbo Basically this is the Muslim approach to a situation. You're turning your inability of self control into a legal issue of female attractiveness. STUPID.... We're finally delving into the murky pond of firing anyone for any reason. <Them. Last Edited by Natures Wrath on 12/22/2012 08:50 PM My magic is both from Source and Soul. I love everything for what it is...a means to an end. I love the fact we are all puzzle pieces to a Grand Master Design. Oh God, where art though? Why must our souls be shards, is it a dirty trick or lesson or a test? Our free will is nearly begotten. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 28822130 United States 12/22/2012 09:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not her business and it's not a right to have a job at that business. How the hell could you even take something like that to court!? If you get fired deal with it and go find another job. If you can not find another job then maybe you should figure out why you have little to no choices in the job market. |
pink cat User ID: 28454161 United States 12/22/2012 09:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | while i agree that any business owner should fire anyone they see unfit or a deterrent that would cause a company to act differently than normal; it's stupid if you stop to think about it. Quoting: usagi yojimbo Basically this is the Muslim approach to a situation. You're turning your inability of self control into a legal issue of female attractiveness. STUPID.... 🦋 |
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BlueSage 13 (OP) User ID: 30140528 United States 12/22/2012 09:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm sure that happens quite often. We call it FBH. (Firing before hiring or "he got fibbed.") In my line of work we'ved fired a few gays for workplace something or another. Basically, soon as a gay let's everyone else know they are gay...they get fired. Last Edited by Natures Wrath on 12/22/2012 09:37 PM My magic is both from Source and Soul. I love everything for what it is...a means to an end. I love the fact we are all puzzle pieces to a Grand Master Design. Oh God, where art though? Why must our souls be shards, is it a dirty trick or lesson or a test? Our free will is nearly begotten. |
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BlueSage 13 (OP) User ID: 30140528 United States 12/22/2012 09:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Last Edited by Natures Wrath on 12/22/2012 09:42 PM My magic is both from Source and Soul. I love everything for what it is...a means to an end. I love the fact we are all puzzle pieces to a Grand Master Design. Oh God, where art though? Why must our souls be shards, is it a dirty trick or lesson or a test? Our free will is nearly begotten. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30677160 United Kingdom 12/22/2012 09:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.youtube.com] This is you when you find out someone is gay. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25050963 United States 12/22/2012 09:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Boss hires "irresistible attraction" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 252372 Boss propositions "irresistible attraction" "Irresistible attraction" refuses boss Boss fires "irresistible attraction" Sounds like a good summary of the situation to me. It sure as hell is sexual discrimination. If the employee had been a man would the dentist have fired him. No. She was fired because she was a woman when a man with the same traits would have been retained. I would say the same thing if the dentist were gay and had fired a man for the same reason. |
BlueSage 13 (OP) User ID: 30140528 United States 12/22/2012 09:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Boss hires "irresistible attraction" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 252372 Boss propositions "irresistible attraction" "Irresistible attraction" refuses boss Boss fires "irresistible attraction" Sounds like a good summary of the situation to me. It sure as hell is sexual discrimination. If the employee had been a man would the dentist have fired him. No. She was fired because she was a woman when a man with the same traits would have been retained. I would say the same thing if the dentist were gay and had fired a man for the same reason. It's upheld. Did you not read? It's upheld. My magic is both from Source and Soul. I love everything for what it is...a means to an end. I love the fact we are all puzzle pieces to a Grand Master Design. Oh God, where art though? Why must our souls be shards, is it a dirty trick or lesson or a test? Our free will is nearly begotten. |
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BlueSage 13 (OP) User ID: 30140528 United States 12/22/2012 09:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is just another reason of why businesses need to be controlled by the employees as a whole. That's why unions were formed. They should be mandatory. Quoting: krosty This was upheld by a Court...OF LAW. Wtf? You people are crazy. My magic is both from Source and Soul. I love everything for what it is...a means to an end. I love the fact we are all puzzle pieces to a Grand Master Design. Oh God, where art though? Why must our souls be shards, is it a dirty trick or lesson or a test? Our free will is nearly begotten. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30677160 United Kingdom 12/22/2012 09:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If they were exchanging text messages that is the boss' fault as well. The moment you start talking to an outsider about your relationship, you estrange yourself from your loved one. If you have a problem with your husband/wife, just talk to them about it 1 on 1. Have a time every 1 or two weeks where you can say anything without prejudice. Don't go firing someone because you text them and make your wife jealous. It's ridiculous "I let myself get really close to a hot girl in work and my wife found out, gonna fire her." LOL how pathetic is that? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25825617 United States 12/22/2012 09:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If a woman worker is very sexy looking for a business that has men working around her, she should definitely be fired. It affects the output of the business and also safety of the working environment. All the guys would walk around with a hard-on and can't think of anything else but sex all the time. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 25825617 United States 12/22/2012 09:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's why women should not be allowed to work in the armed forces. Guys would all die trying to save her ass in the front lines, getting themselves all killed trying to rescue her whenever she falls down while running. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30670070 United States 12/22/2012 09:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I see the legal point. Everything else about it strikes me as so unfair, to everyone involved, no matter how the ruling came down that it's difficult to think of an option with a superior outcome. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 536600 It was the employers problem, not the employees, and did hint at sexual harassment, since it threatened and in fact removed the ladies employment, during a depression none the less, because the boss had inappropriate feelings. He couldn't quit though, given the nature of the work, so what else could have been done. (Provided he found himself unable to control his feelings.) It sucks all the way around, but I have to agree that it seems like the only thing that might work. Actually, he asked her to wear less revealing clothes and apparently she did not, at least not to the required extent? I don't see why women (and men) cannot be required to wear non-revealing, even non-flattering clothes as a condition of employment. It's a bit Sharia-ish, but that's the reason that provision is in Sharia law. I am not going that far, I do not require women to wear hijab, but the workplace is not the same as the general public. She can wear revealing clothes, just not at his workplace. She continued to wear revealing clothes, she got fired. Fine. |
BlueSage 13 (OP) User ID: 30140528 United States 12/22/2012 09:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A COURT OF LAW UPHELD THIS. What do you people not get? We're not talking about the legality of it...that's already been decided. Last Edited by Natures Wrath on 12/22/2012 09:57 PM My magic is both from Source and Soul. I love everything for what it is...a means to an end. I love the fact we are all puzzle pieces to a Grand Master Design. Oh God, where art though? Why must our souls be shards, is it a dirty trick or lesson or a test? Our free will is nearly begotten. |
krosty User ID: 15571780 United States 12/22/2012 09:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is just another reason of why businesses need to be controlled by the employees as a whole. That's why unions were formed. They should be mandatory. Quoting: krosty This was upheld by a Court...OF LAW. Wtf? You people are crazy. Who ever said we should trust the justice system to take care of us? This is more evidence it needs to be dismantled by the people of America. We need to take justice in our own hands for labor rights. Last Edited by krosty on 12/22/2012 09:59 PM |
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