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NY Paper publishes list of CCW permit holders!!

 
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Oh great, I bet the burglar/home invader types are going to have a field day with this one.

A criminal picks out a house and then for some extra insurance that the occupants of said house won't be able to defend their property/lives, he can just check the map.

Something like this could very well revolutionize the burglary industry in such counties. Great day to be a criminal.
 Quoting: KonspiracyKitty


How stupid that post is.

I guess only CCW even are the only ones to have weapons in their houses, eh?

Its a laugh a minute around here.
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You really are naive aren't you??? Your village has called for your return!!!
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Sorry I missed it, but what is a CCW and where is the inline list of gun holders?
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How come sources on GLP never come from the actual source itself, and always some second rate lunatic blog?
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Lol, looking at the dots on the map (just a small sampling)...

A police station (LOL)
A dot between a realty firm and an empty lot
A dot at a sushi restaurant...

bsflag
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How come sources on GLP never come from the actual source itself, and always some second rate lunatic blog?
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If those dots represent REAL people who really live at the address stated and are legally able to carry, does it matter what kind of friggin media outlet it comes from? Too easy to consider everything other than MSM as "lunatic". Widen your view.
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How come sources on GLP never come from the actual source itself, and always some second rate lunatic blog?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30126445


If those dots represent REAL people who really live at the address stated and are legally able to carry, does it matter what kind of friggin media outlet it comes from? Too easy to consider everything other than MSM as "lunatic". Widen your view.
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Lol...the MSM is just as lunatic as the rest of the sources.
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Lol, looking at the dots on the map (just a small sampling)...

A police station (LOL)
A dot between a realty firm and an empty lot
A dot at a sushi restaurant...

bsflag
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30126445


You haven't clicked on any of those dots, have you? I have read dozens of names and addresses. Nice try.
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12/24/2012 09:09 PM
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it's true

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29961399


If CCW permits are public knowledge, I'm not sure that a newspaper compiling a list of CCW permits is illegal. But why single out CCW's? How many of the "shooters" in recent events are/were registered CCW?
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12/24/2012 09:27 PM
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Let's hope that one of those people whose name and address is published is a lawyer. A damn good one who loves his guns.
I think that due to the response of the readers, the list will be pulled. But it will be too late by then. Those who can benefit/profit/scam from that info already have a copy. Mission accomplished.
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Wouldn't be surprised if there's a bunch of new permit apps now. Those identified as permit-less will feel an incentive to get the weapon an attacker does not expect.
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Wrong on so many levels and will likely backfire on whoever did this.
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They are now targets..NOT cool.
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Yeah but at least they are armed targets...

Unlike the Millions of soft targets shambling around NY, NY...
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Wouldn't be surprised if there's a bunch of new permit apps now. Those identified as permit-less will feel an incentive to get the weapon an attacker does not expect.
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Doesn't it seem ironic that something some perceive as a threat to take guns away, has in fact bolstered gun and ammo sales tremendously? If there is an "agenda" to take away the guns, surely those who are carrying it out knew people would react in this way? Why drive people to buy more weapons, while preaching the need to have less?
damn, I've gone cross-eyed.....
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The people need to organize a list of mayors, governers, congressmen and women that are selling us out to the New World Order. A list of their activities that defy the Constitution and policies that weaken our Nation. They have their list, we develop ours.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29961399


what's upsetting is that these people have not committed a crime

they applied for a legal permit

they aren't sex offenders who have been convicted of a serious offense, who have a history of breaking the law

and yet, to those publishing their names, they are already suspects and possible criminals

while they're at it, ignoring privacy issues left and right, why not just go ahead and publish a list of everyone on medication for bi-polar and personality disorders as well...and then a list of all young men who have ADD and come from broken homes
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When I began to arm myself and my family, I spoke to my neighbors about it because our kids play together.
Everyone in my neighborhood knows we are armed and of course many of them are armed as well

I suspect that publicizing the names and addresses of legal gun owners accomplishes several ends for our government.

It will create fear among the anti-gunners living nearby who will cause problems and create ill will with their gun owning neighbors.

The instance of burglery in those areas will rise as criminals will case specific gun owning homes in an effort to steal weapons they could not get otherwise. Of course the gun owners will be blamed for those thefts.

It tells us gun owners that "we know who you are and where you live".

Of course very seldom do people, who have gone to the trouble of licensing and permitting their weapons for conceled carry, going to commit a crime when they are onviously so visible, which is what makes the anti-gun argument so lame.

All of this is only a lame attempt to intimidate and shame legitimate, legal, and harmless gun owners with the hope that you will disarm voluntarily and save yourself the trouble.

Everone needs to begin to think about these things logically and ask yourselves what their true motives are.
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They are treating it just like they are sex offenders...
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When I began to arm myself and my family, I spoke to my neighbors about it because our kids play together.
Everyone in my neighborhood knows we are armed and of course many of them are armed as well

I suspect that publicizing the names and addresses of legal gun owners accomplishes several ends for our government.

It will create fear among the anti-gunners living nearby who will cause problems and create ill will with their gun owning neighbors.

The instance of burglery in those areas will rise as criminals will case specific gun owning homes in an effort to steal weapons they could not get otherwise. Of course the gun owners will be blamed for those thefts.

It tells us gun owners that "we know who you are and where you live".

Of course very seldom do people, who have gone to the trouble of licensing and permitting their weapons for conceled carry, going to commit a crime when they are onviously so visible, which is what makes the anti-gun argument so lame.

All of this is only a lame attempt to intimidate and shame legitimate, legal, and harmless gun owners with the hope that you will disarm voluntarily and save yourself the trouble.

Everone needs to begin to think about these things logically and ask yourselves what their true motives are.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26490972


I hear you.

What bothers me is this. A lot of people went out and bought tons of ammo and weapons, after the election, and especially after the Connecticut event. How many of those people never owned a gun before, or applied for a permit before, and only did it in a hurried response? People tend to overreact, and purchasing a weapon out of fear without serious thought can be a bad thing.
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I disagree with most of your stances on guns, but this is absolute bullshit. How dare they?

Now go out and make a petition to boycott this paper and have the owners deported back to Israhell.<-This would be a worthy pursuit..
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This article made my evening. Like an early Christmas present!
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When I began to arm myself and my family, I spoke to my neighbors about it because our kids play together.
Everyone in my neighborhood knows we are armed and of course many of them are armed as well

I suspect that publicizing the names and addresses of legal gun owners accomplishes several ends for our government.

It will create fear among the anti-gunners living nearby who will cause problems and create ill will with their gun owning neighbors.

The instance of burglery in those areas will rise as criminals will case specific gun owning homes in an effort to steal weapons they could not get otherwise. Of course the gun owners will be blamed for those thefts.

It tells us gun owners that "we know who you are and where you live".

Of course very seldom do people, who have gone to the trouble of licensing and permitting their weapons for conceled carry, going to commit a crime when they are onviously so visible, which is what makes the anti-gun argument so lame.

All of this is only a lame attempt to intimidate and shame legitimate, legal, and harmless gun owners with the hope that you will disarm voluntarily and save yourself the trouble.

Everone needs to begin to think about these things logically and ask yourselves what their true motives are.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26490972


I hear you.

What bothers me is this. A lot of people went out and bought tons of ammo and weapons, after the election, and especially after the Connecticut event. How many of those people never owned a gun before, or applied for a permit before, and only did it in a hurried response? People tend to overreact, and purchasing a weapon out of fear without serious thought can be a bad thing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1044117


Yes, you are right. I was one of them. My wife and I obtained training and shoot regularly at the range. Every state is different, but in our state you must sucessfully complete a sanctioned firearms safety and training class prior to getting a conceled permit.

All of this anti-gun rhetoric has a purpose behind it for which National Crime statistics do not support. At www.fbi.gov you can easily look up violent crime statistics which show that violent crime overall has decreased by 49% since 1991 despite skyrocketing civilian gun ownership and conceled carry. This is the opposite of what we are being told by politicians and the media. The question we have to ask ourselves is, "Why?". Why are they packaging these events in a way to mislead the public into believing that violent crime is at epidemic proportions never seen before. For what end are they seeking to destroy the law abiding citizens right to self defense.

Why will none of them expain to me and others what steps will be taken to disarm criminals, gang-bangers, drug cartel members, and others who pose a threat to the citizenry. 446 school age children shot in Chicago in 2012, with 62 fatalities. None of this is discussed in the media or by the politicians.

They say we do not need assault rifles like the police and military have. Well, given that we the people are likely to be confronted by these criminals and crazies before the police are, it seems to me that if they need them, then so do we. I wonder how many assault rifles entered that school last Friday to eliminate the threat. What if you were there, what would you like to have to protect yourself and your children.
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Well, any chance that me and mine will go anywhere unarmed just flew out the window.

Strangely enough though, I know few people that don't have a CCW, and they are all liberal Yankees at my office.

I have had a "posted no trespassing, trespassers will be shot on sight" signs around my property for years now; everyone around me knows that tresspassers will be assumed to be nefariously interfering with my livestock and they will be killed.
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You could just badly disable them.
Spread the word, change the collective conscious......
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If there was a "Prohibition" of sorts on guns, surely there would be underground markets, and "bootleg" homemade weapons created? Maybe in time, those markets would be tracked and shut down, but I don't think you can ever completely outlaw or eliminate the firearm as long as people know how to make or obtain one. Just a thought.
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That's crazy. I live in Westchester county so I looked up my address.. hey it turns out my next door neighbor has a CCW permit!
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They are treating it just like they are sex offenders...
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exactly

meanwhile the real crazies and criminals don't even bother applying for a permit

this is total BS
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If there was a "Prohibition" of sorts on guns, surely there would be underground markets, and "bootleg" homemade weapons created? Maybe in time, those markets would be tracked and shut down, but I don't think you can ever completely outlaw or eliminate the firearm as long as people know how to make or obtain one. Just a thought.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1044117


There already are. The black market for weapons is bigger than the legitimate one. Where do you think criminals get their firearms. If you have the cash and don't mind breaking the law you can get anything you want, including fully automatic/ select fire military grade firearms that are all off the grid. I, however, want no part of that. it's not a world I want to be involved in.

They couldn't stop the flow of alcohol during prohibition. They can't stop the drug trade despite 40 some years of the war on drugs. Why should anyone believe they can stop the illegal weapons trade. Once they make something illegal, the black market for those items grows exponentially.
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If there was a "Prohibition" of sorts on guns, surely there would be underground markets, and "bootleg" homemade weapons created? Maybe in time, those markets would be tracked and shut down, but I don't think you can ever completely outlaw or eliminate the firearm as long as people know how to make or obtain one. Just a thought.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1044117


There already are. The black market for weapons is bigger than the legitimate one. Where do you think criminals get their firearms. If you have the cash and don't mind breaking the law you can get anything you want, including fully automatic/ select fire military grade firearms that are all off the grid. I, however, want no part of that. it's not a world I want to be involved in.

They couldn't stop the flow of alcohol during prohibition. They can't stop the drug trade despite 40 some years of the war on drugs. Why should anyone believe they can stop the illegal weapons trade. Once they make something illegal, the black market for those items grows exponentially.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26490972


A country that allows and facilitates illegal trades amongst it's people (while putting on airs to prevent it) can surely stop it at a whim. We aren't under a gun ban yet. Those other conduits could be shut down.
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If there was a "Prohibition" of sorts on guns, surely there would be underground markets, and "bootleg" homemade weapons created? Maybe in time, those markets would be tracked and shut down, but I don't think you can ever completely outlaw or eliminate the firearm as long as people know how to make or obtain one. Just a thought.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1044117


There already are. The black market for weapons is bigger than the legitimate one. Where do you think criminals get their firearms. If you have the cash and don't mind breaking the law you can get anything you want, including fully automatic/ select fire military grade firearms that are all off the grid. I, however, want no part of that. it's not a world I want to be involved in.

They couldn't stop the flow of alcohol during prohibition. They can't stop the drug trade despite 40 some years of the war on drugs. Why should anyone believe they can stop the illegal weapons trade. Once they make something illegal, the black market for those items grows exponentially.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26490972


A country that allows and facilitates illegal trades amongst it's people (while putting on airs to prevent it) can surely stop it at a whim. We aren't under a gun ban yet. Those other conduits could be shut down.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1044117


It seems to me that if their concern is the safety and welfare of the general population then closing off the flow of illegal weapons should come prior to disarming law abiding Americans who pose no legitimate threat. That is precisely why American citizens should be very concerned about the motives behind the rhetoric.
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If there was a "Prohibition" of sorts on guns, surely there would be underground markets, and "bootleg" homemade weapons created? Maybe in time, those markets would be tracked and shut down, but I don't think you can ever completely outlaw or eliminate the firearm as long as people know how to make or obtain one. Just a thought.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1044117


There already are. The black market for weapons is bigger than the legitimate one. Where do you think criminals get their firearms. If you have the cash and don't mind breaking the law you can get anything you want, including fully automatic/ select fire military grade firearms that are all off the grid. I, however, want no part of that. it's not a world I want to be involved in.

They couldn't stop the flow of alcohol during prohibition. They can't stop the drug trade despite 40 some years of the war on drugs. Why should anyone believe they can stop the illegal weapons trade. Once they make something illegal, the black market for those items grows exponentially.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26490972


A country that allows and facilitates illegal trades amongst it's people (while putting on airs to prevent it) can surely stop it at a whim. We aren't under a gun ban yet. Those other conduits could be shut down.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1044117


It seems to me that if their concern is the safety and welfare of the general population then closing off the flow of illegal weapons should come prior to disarming law abiding Americans who pose no legitimate threat. That is precisely why American citizens should be very concerned about the motives behind the rhetoric.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26490972


We shall see soon, most likely. This all seems to moving quickly since the election.
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