I am being FORCED into this SHIT! Christmas!

Be a good slave and obey your GF....... You know relationships are a form of control.

You need to find someone that feels the same way or respects your beliefs.

Atheist...I was one of those lunatics once.

Merry Christmas bro

Every year around Christmas for almost 10 years or so now, I start feeling weird when my family starts celebrating Christmas...
Today, since in Germany we celebrate Christmas in the evening, it wasn`t any different, short before the Celebrations started, I started feeling weird again, like every year.
This feeling only leaves me again, when I can get away from the Christmas Celebrations.

It is as if the room is filled with thick air, even though everyone else feels quite normal and happy, its just me who can sense this and it always heavily affects me.

So now I want to share with you my Truth about Christmas, which some of you might be aware of already, but this thread is also a means of adressing this being, that is behind this charade and exposing it, because I don`t think many people have done this so far.

This year the understanding that came to me was, that Santa Claus or Father Christmas, is the same being as the Christian God Yahweh, "God the Father", and therfor Saturn.

It is in itself already quite telling, that even non Christians all around the world, have adopted this type of Christmas and Santa Claus archetype, and started celebrating something similar or even the same, without having any real deeper reason to do so...

Santa Claus, is the Judging God Entity for Children.
Children believe anything they are being told, so this being is very real for them. For Children Santa Claus exists, period.
Santa Claus can see everything Children are doing and watches them all the time over the whole year, making a list of what they are doing. Even when I`m writing this some rage starts boiling inside me, the mind fucking they do with our Children all around the world...

The most important thing for a child to learn is, that it is a free being, who can and needs to try anything, to learn what for them feels right and wrong, instead of being told by their parents or other authorities, what is right or wrong.
The normal Christian God is beyond the scope of understanding for a child, it cannot understand why it would be judged by this ominous being sitting on a cloud or why this god would even be so evil as to send people to a place like hell. This mindcontrol program, simply cannot access the pure mind of a child yet and is therfor useless.

But a nice old man with a fluffy white beard and flying reindeers, who brings presents to children who were behaving good starts their imagination, like a real life disney movie. This concept is much easier to understand and involves a reward, that is fathomable to children.
Which also leads to the point, that parents tell their children, that imaginary friends aren`t real, that very vivid dreams aren`t real, that none of their inherent spiritual abilities are real, but Santa Clause who is flying on a skid with reindeers is real, and dare any parent to tell their children, that it is a made up lie.

The whole Ritual of Christmas, prepares the child`s mind, into accepting the existence of a Judgemental Christian God, Yahweh, that has the very same characteristics, like Santa Claus.
He claims to be able to see everything, but only his judgement is a bit more cruel, because in this case it is not about present or no present, or even worse a rod, but Eternal Hell Fire or Eternal Heaven instead.

Through telling the Children, that they either get a present when they behave good, light side of duality, or behave bad, dark side of duality, one being explored, the other being taught to heavily fear... that they even get punished with a rod, if they were really bad, which for a child really just means, exploring their true freedom, since a child really cannot do anything really "bad" yet.
The child`s mind is being conditioned into accepting, that punishment of bad people through the Christian God Yahweh, is an acceptable behaviour and completely justified, even needs to be enforced.

And if all of this mind fucking with our Children wouldn`t be enough...
The Celebration of Christmas which involves the gifting of presents BIG or small... conditions the mind, for entering into a Matrix, where Rich People are good and better/behaved better and therfor get more materialistic presents, and poor people were somehow bad/behaved worse, since they can only afford less materialistic presents.

The same goes for rich and poor children, where the confident but arrogant and bullying child in school, brags about getting a new tv or video console from Santa Claus, while the quiet child that is really good in his heart, just might have gotten, something much smaller and less expensive... I guess you see where I`m going with his.

Truth be told I hate Christmas, since I know the truth behind it, it is an ugly mindcontrol program, fucking with the purity of our Children`s Mind, and not a fucking single bit more than that.

I know what you are doing Yahweh and I will not keep quite anymore, with your bullshit false synthetic light programs that have infected the minds of our Children and Adults!

This needed to be released, now I can hopefully happily celebrate Mother Earth, Father Sun and Myself, for just Being Us and Winter being a time, where Mother Earth blesses us with Snow, instead of being a time where "Christmas is coming"...

How is this for sharing the Spirit of Christmas... would it really be that bad to tell our children, that they get their presents from us as every other child around the world, because we love them unconditionally for who they are...?

lol yea me 2

Gave into the dark force I see.

What caliber of gun do they point at your head?

Seriously, man, start drawing some boundaries, and stand your ground.

So what if you are "taunted" for two weeks? Get over it.

If you politely, firmly, clearly, and without malice, simply state that you have other plans... you do not have to accept any invitation anywhere. Ever.

Those "other plans" may be to clean your toenails while hanging out in GLP in your pajamas, but they are legitimately 'other plans', and you are under no compulsion to explain them.

So this year, since you acted like you were going along with all the fake festive shit... you have to suck it up and go and endure it.

But start laying the groundwork now for next year. Let everyone know as soon as politely, clearly, and firmly as possible that you have "other plans" for next "Christ"mas.

Off yourself because you cant get out of yourself, do us all a favor.

How dare you family ask you to visit!

Hate to break it to you, but the world does not revolve around you. Last I checked, even atheists had parents. Go respect yours and visit them.

maybe she needs to dump your ass and find somebody with her same morals and values.

You're not alone. I found my spirit. I don't need a day. I have eternity.



Well said.

should do like this guy

"Man Rents Bunker To Escape Christmas"
[link to findthepower.com]

deep breath its all over tomorrow! Then Armageddon starts you will never have to worry about another christmas again

Just curious, how old are you OP?

Thing to do is show up a week early to visit. Carry presents if you feel like it.

Hang on ... just waiting for the Queen's speech.

Break up with her today. Tell her its her Christmas present. Then you don't have to do anything stay home and order Chinese.

You let your girlfriend tell you what to do? Jesus, that sucks dude. She is never going to respect you for that.

plz do.

Atheists are miserable people

I quit celabrating x-mas when I discovered that Jesus wasn't born on Dec 25th ... that was 38 years aga ... but I was also FORCED to play the game by my family ... they expect "presents" from me, but because I "don't play" they do not get me presents .... so for me it is loose loose

It has nothing to do with my Belief System, I believe Jesus lived and I believe that he was a great person, but if he was really "god's son" don't you think it would make him angry - that we celebrate his birthday ON THE WRONG DAY ... and that we're more interested in the party clown (santa) than we are in the guest of honor ? I know that if I was god, the disrespect and ignorance would not be appreciated - not one bit

so to avoid god's wrath, I quit participating in this farce ... paying the Jews their yearly tribute - to their community - and cashing in on your stupidity

When my dad died, and I didn't have to attend any more family rituals, I thought that would be the end of it ... but NOoooo my family, who's members haven't stepped foot in a church for at least a decade, want to continue this charade for their kids

Like I said, I haven "played" X-mas, decorated, bought presents, or celebrated for almost forty years now, but because it snowed last night, this is the first X-mas, that I haven't been expected to contribute to the lies they tell their children ... next year, I will arrange to be out of town ... in some cabin in the woods, where there isn't even a phone HAHA

keep at it... be firm, if you hope NOT to be included in this outrageous disrespect for Jesus and his Father.

Nobody is FORCING you to do it,you are choosing to follow along like a good sheeple.
If you really don't want to do it, for whatever reason,
then don't.
It is YOUR life, YOUR choice.

A December 25th celebration came from the pagans OP. So still would be here regardless of Christianity.

Chill out and enjoy Christmas!

Merry Christmas

:hellothere:

True, but choices bring consequences, one of which may be losing his girlfriend.

Thanks for the post! I'll save it in my Quotes file.

It's not about believing in God or not either unless it is only conditioning towards a false dualistic idea of God, which is not found in Self, which is the totality of ones awareness, and in the present moment, but it does play into the old idea of God as some "other-than-self" element out there conceptually lurking around doing something that is not related to self.

Most people around the world find themselves in some tradition or other that they may not agree with or believe in totally, but to some extent they go along with it to save energy for perhaps more important issues.

I was raised in the US and come from families that did not lie to their kids about Christmas or anything, nor my wife who was from former Bulgarian communist background, but we participated in christmas in both Bulgaria and in the US as artform, but did not lie to our kids about it either.

I am divorced and retired now living in ancestral central Mexico, and having already located my spiritual center my general goal is just to simplify my life, and I am not longer beholden to people so much that I am compelled to participate at all, or any more than I care to be. I can play any side without commitments.

Mexico has an older tradition pretty much in practice, but being corrupted by North American traditions, to not give expensive gifts relating to holidays, regardless of a persons wealth. Holiday gifts, like 3-King's day and birthdays, are meant to be appear more symbolic and people avoid giving something that might appear more expensive than what other people give. There is a seemingly conscious effort to not allow the tradition to become materialistic like it is in the US.

Mexico celebrates Christmas for most of December, from the 12th on, with community hosted piñata parties and free hot drinks and tamales in the streets every night. Mexicans are not so into the Santa stuff, probably because most Mexico does not get much snow, which is part of that theme, but the Christmas colors, red, green and white, are also the national colors of Mexico, so they go in for the lights and the community decorations and make it a month long outdoor community holiday, not so much an indoor family.

Grow a pair. Just say NO.

Be thou of good cheer and find Love in All.

The true spirit of the Birth of Christ is Hope.

That I May Be Forgiven.

John. 3:16

For God so Loved the World
That He gave his only
begotten Son.
That whosoever
Believeth in Him
should not perish,
But have everlasting
Life.


That Son is the Living Christ in You.
Peace Be Unto You.