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From 0ºF to 37ºF overnight. WTF?
We had a very white Christmas here. Then on December 25th the temperature just jumped from 0ºF(-18ºC) to 37ºF(+3ºC) overnight.
It is not the temperature itself that is odd, but how fast it has changed.
Something like this has never happened before in my lifetime and not even my grandparents as they find this very strange as well!
WTF?!

I do not know what is happening with the weather, but there is one weapon TPTB are definitely using right now:
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Re: From 0ºF to 37ºF overnight. WTF?
We had a very white Christmas here. Then on December 25th the temperature just jumped from 0ºF(-18ºC) to 37ºF(+3ºC) overnight.
It is not the temperature itself that is odd, but how fast it has changed.
Something like this has never happened before in my lifetime and not even my grandparents as they find this very strange as well!
WTF?!

I do not know what is happening with the weather, but there is one weapon TPTB are definitely using right now. It might even be too late:
Thread: Pirated entertainment. NWO ideology nuke!
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Happens all the time here in canada...
It's called a chinook..
Lastnight is was -29c this morning when i woke up it's -1c
You can't fix stupid! ~ Ron White
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Re: From 0ºF to 37ºF overnight. WTF?
We had a very white Christmas here. Then on December 25th the temperature just jumped from 0ºF(-18ºC) to 37ºF(+3ºC) overnight.
It is not the temperature itself that is odd, but how fast it has changed.
Something like this has never happened before in my lifetime and not even my grandparents as they find this very strange as well!
WTF?!

I do not know what is happening with the weather, but there is one weapon TPTB are definitely using right now. It might even be too late:
Thread: Pirated entertainment. NWO ideology nuke!
 Quoting: Enjoy Candy!


Happens all the time here in canada...
It's called a chinook..
Lastnight is was -29c this morning when i woke up it's -1c
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^This^

No big deal.
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Re: From 0ºF to 37ºF overnight. WTF?
We had a very white Christmas here. Then on December 25th the temperature just jumped from 0ºF(-18ºC) to 37ºF(+3ºC) overnight.
It is not the temperature itself that is odd, but how fast it has changed.
Something like this has never happened before in my lifetime and not even my grandparents as they find this very strange as well!
WTF?!

I do not know what is happening with the weather, but there is one weapon TPTB are definitely using right now. It might even be too late:
Thread: Pirated entertainment. NWO ideology nuke!
 Quoting: Enjoy Candy!


Happens all the time here in canada...
It's called a chinook..
Lastnight is was -29c this morning when i woke up it's -1c
 Quoting: Canadian_Bacon


^This^

No big deal.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 628775


I see. Sorry for panicking. :)
But it has never happened HERE. That is a bit odd, right?
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it's the subtropical jet stream. the polar jet stream is awol, and the subtropical jet stream is over us right now. i'm even seeing insects out and about, end of december, and there was a house fly in the bathroom last night

freaky
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Re: From 0ºF to 37ºF overnight. WTF?
it's the subtropical jet stream. the polar jet stream is awol, and the subtropical jet stream is over us right now. i'm even seeing insects out and about, end of december, and there was a house fly in the bathroom last night

freaky
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The Jetstream is about to head north for a change.

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Re: From 0ºF to 37ºF overnight. WTF?
it's the subtropical jet stream. the polar jet stream is awol, and the subtropical jet stream is over us right now. i'm even seeing insects out and about, end of december, and there was a house fly in the bathroom last night

freaky
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The cold struck us very fast this year. Migratory birds usually are gone well before the really cold weather sets in, but this year they were sucker punched by it.They were here even when we had snow up to our knees. This was acknowledged as strange by many.
Usually the birds are here and in 3 days time they are gone. This year it took a few weeks for all of them to leave. They seemed confused, as the directions they were flying was just random. They didn't all head west or south as usually.
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Re: From 0ºF to 37ºF overnight. WTF?
it's the subtropical jet stream. the polar jet stream is awol, and the subtropical jet stream is over us right now. i'm even seeing insects out and about, end of december, and there was a house fly in the bathroom last night

freaky
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The cold struck us very fast this year. Migratory birds usually are gone well before the really cold weather sets in, but this year they were sucker punched by it.They were here even when we had snow up to our knees. This was acknowledged as strange by many.
Usually the birds are here and in 3 days time they are gone. This year it took a few weeks for all of them to leave. They seemed confused, as the directions they were flying was just random. They didn't all head west or south as usually.
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That is because the weakening magnetic field.
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Re: From 0ºF to 37ºF overnight. WTF?
it's the subtropical jet stream. the polar jet stream is awol, and the subtropical jet stream is over us right now. i'm even seeing insects out and about, end of december, and there was a house fly in the bathroom last night

freaky
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30962522


The cold struck us very fast this year. Migratory birds usually are gone well before the really cold weather sets in, but this year they were sucker punched by it.They were here even when we had snow up to our knees. This was acknowledged as strange by many.
Usually the birds are here and in 3 days time they are gone. This year it took a few weeks for all of them to leave. They seemed confused, as the directions they were flying was just random. They didn't all head west or south as usually.
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That is because the weakening magnetic field.
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I thought so, yes. Just wanted to show some proof of it.
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Re: From 0ºF to 37ºF overnight. WTF?
We had a very white Christmas here. Then on December 25th the temperature just jumped from 0ºF(-18ºC) to 37ºF(+3ºC) overnight.
It is not the temperature itself that is odd, but how fast it has changed.
Something like this has never happened before in my lifetime and not even my grandparents as they find this very strange as well!
WTF?!

I do not know what is happening with the weather, but there is one weapon TPTB are definitely using right now. It might even be too late:
Thread: Pirated entertainment. NWO ideology nuke!
 Quoting: Enjoy Candy!


Happens all the time here in canada...
It's called a chinook..
Lastnight is was -29c this morning when i woke up it's -1c
 Quoting: Canadian_Bacon


^This^

No big deal.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 628775


I see. Sorry for panicking. :)
But it has never happened HERE. That is a bit odd, right?
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ignore the folks who are making lite of your temp change. It is a big thing, If it has not happened there before it is another WEIRD thing to add to the strange occurances happening all over the world, thanks for sharing!
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Happens all the time here in canada...
It's called a chinook..
Lastnight is was -29c this morning when i woke up it's -1c
 Quoting: Canadian_Bacon


^This^

No big deal.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 628775


I see. Sorry for panicking. :)
But it has never happened HERE. That is a bit odd, right?
 Quoting: Enjoy Candy!


ignore the folks who are making lite of your temp change. It is a big thing, If it has not happened there before it is another WEIRD thing to add to the strange occurances happening all over the world, thanks for sharing!
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You are right! Thank you for encouraging me to stick to what I feel. ;)
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Re: From 0ºF to 37ºF overnight. WTF?
it's the subtropical jet stream. the polar jet stream is awol, and the subtropical jet stream is over us right now. i'm even seeing insects out and about, end of december, and there was a house fly in the bathroom last night

freaky
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30962522


The cold struck us very fast this year. Migratory birds usually are gone well before the really cold weather sets in, but this year they were sucker punched by it.They were here even when we had snow up to our knees. This was acknowledged as strange by many.
Usually the birds are here and in 3 days time they are gone. This year it took a few weeks for all of them to leave. They seemed confused, as the directions they were flying was just random. They didn't all head west or south as usually.
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That is because the weakening magnetic field.
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definitely a pole shift precursor i'd say. we're supposed to have 4 jetstreams,a polar and subtropical one in both hemispheres

the subtropical one down south, and the polar one up north simply isn't there

for some reason though, the subtropical jetstream up north is looping up over the UK/western europe

figure this out, you'll figure it all out i reckon
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it's the subtropical jet stream. the polar jet stream is awol, and the subtropical jet stream is over us right now. i'm even seeing insects out and about, end of december, and there was a house fly in the bathroom last night

freaky
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30962522


The cold struck us very fast this year. Migratory birds usually are gone well before the really cold weather sets in, but this year they were sucker punched by it.They were here even when we had snow up to our knees. This was acknowledged as strange by many.
Usually the birds are here and in 3 days time they are gone. This year it took a few weeks for all of them to leave. They seemed confused, as the directions they were flying was just random. They didn't all head west or south as usually.
 Quoting: Enjoy Candy!


That is because the weakening magnetic field.
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I thought so, yes. Just wanted to show some proof of it.
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Earth’s magnetic field overdue for a chaos-causing (possibly life-altering) flip

LONDON — The discovery by NASA rover Curiosity of evidence that water once flowed on Mars – the most Earth-like planet in the solar system – should intensify interest in what the future could hold for mankind.

The only thing stopping Earth having a lifeless environment like Mars is the magnetic field that shields us from deadly solar radiation and helps some animals migrate, and it may be a lot more fragile and febrile than one might think.

[link to news.nationalpost.com]
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it's the new normal
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it's the new normal
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but we've seen fuck all yet. i think we could get extremes like you have in the midwest regularly, all over the world. huge tornadoes, everywhere. extremes of hot and cold, no matter the season. up will be down and black will be white.

i think we're all in an awful lot of trouble.
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it's the new normal
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but we've seen fuck all yet. i think we could get extremes like you have in the midwest regularly, all over the world. huge tornadoes, everywhere. extremes of hot and cold, no matter the season. up will be down and black will be white.

i think we're all in an awful lot of trouble.
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There is a strong pressure, impulse to accept this as ''the new normal''.
Everyone knows the world is changing, but they just accept it and carry on. This is THE WEATHER and THE EARTH. Every individual feels powerless in front of these powers and therefore humbly lives on as it seems that there is nothing to be done.
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Re: From 0ºF to 37ºF overnight. WTF?
The strange weather, animal migratory patterns, and die off's is the nature of the endgame spiral out of the planetary spirit...

2013 will be an interesting year to watch, as I expect these patterns will see dramatic increases...

What is interesting is - remote viewers, astral travellers cannot see into the 2013 time period... Yet, when they go to the 2200 time period, they see no evidence of industry, society on this planet...

What happened in the 2013 and beyond time period to make it this way???
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The strange weather, animal migratory patterns, and die off's is the nature of the endgame spiral out of the planetary spirit...

2013 will be an interesting year to watch, as I expect these patterns will see dramatic increases...

What is interesting is - remote viewers, astral travellers cannot see into the 2013 time period... Yet, when they go to the 2200 time period, they see no evidence of industry, society on this planet...

What happened in the 2013 and beyond time period to make it this way???
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At a guess, a magnetic field reversal, this might account as to why remote viewers cannot see into the 2013 time frame as everything including the conscious "mind field" might be thrown into a kind of stasis until it corrects itself.
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I lived in a state called "Rio Grande do Sul", in the extreme south of Brazil. This town's wheater was like, 6am = 0ºC, noon 40ºC, 6pm 0ºC again...
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I lived in a state called "Rio Grande do Sul", in the extreme south of Brazil. This town's wheater was like, 6am = 0ºC, noon 40ºC, 6pm 0ºC again...
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Wow. o_O
So people head out from homes in the morning in coats, in the noon they walk in underwear and then coats again ? This is so strange, I had never heard of this phenomena. Is this considered normal there?
People are used to the climate, temperatures they live in. Usually for people in the warmer parts of the world it is hard to adjust to slightly colder weather up north but how can anyone get used to such wide swings of temperature daily ?
How was it to live there?
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I lived in a state called "Rio Grande do Sul", in the extreme south of Brazil. This town's wheater was like, 6am = 0ºC, noon 40ºC, 6pm 0ºC again...
 Quoting: CripplingLies


Wow. o_O
So people head out from homes in the morning in coats, in the noon they walk in underwear and then coats again ? This is so strange, I had never heard of this phenomena. Is this considered normal there?
People are used to the climate, temperatures they live in. Usually for people in the warmer parts of the world it is hard to adjust to slightly colder weather up north but how can anyone get used to such wide swings of temperature daily ?
How was it to live there?
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It was great to live there! Its such a beautyfull place with kind, evolved and friendly people! The place I've been born and raised! Endless green fields, nature all around, a paradise I dare to say.
And yes, this is very normal down there. People are used to it, in fact, because of that, people born and/or raised there, are much less succeptible to all kinds of flu and respiratory illness. Our health is above normal, not super humans, but a lot more resistent.
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I lived in a state called "Rio Grande do Sul", in the extreme south of Brazil. This town's wheater was like, 6am = 0ºC, noon 40ºC, 6pm 0ºC again...
 Quoting: CripplingLies


Wow. o_O
So people head out from homes in the morning in coats, in the noon they walk in underwear and then coats again ? This is so strange, I had never heard of this phenomena. Is this considered normal there?
People are used to the climate, temperatures they live in. Usually for people in the warmer parts of the world it is hard to adjust to slightly colder weather up north but how can anyone get used to such wide swings of temperature daily ?
How was it to live there?
 Quoting: Enjoy Candy!


It was great to live there! Its such a beautyfull place with kind, evolved and friendly people! The place I've been born and raised! Endless green fields, nature all around, a paradise I dare to say.
And yes, this is very normal down there. People are used to it, in fact, because of that, people born and/or raised there, are much less succeptible to all kinds of flu and respiratory illness. Our health is above normal, not super humans, but a lot more resistent.
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That sounds amazing. I am glad to find out that there are places and people like this. Good luck to you. :)
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I lived in a state called "Rio Grande do Sul", in the extreme south of Brazil. This town's wheater was like, 6am = 0ºC, noon 40ºC, 6pm 0ºC again...
 Quoting: CripplingLies


Wow. o_O
So people head out from homes in the morning in coats, in the noon they walk in underwear and then coats again ? This is so strange, I had never heard of this phenomena. Is this considered normal there?
People are used to the climate, temperatures they live in. Usually for people in the warmer parts of the world it is hard to adjust to slightly colder weather up north but how can anyone get used to such wide swings of temperature daily ?
How was it to live there?
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It was great to live there! Its such a beautyfull place with kind, evolved and friendly people! The place I've been born and raised! Endless green fields, nature all around, a paradise I dare to say.
And yes, this is very normal down there. People are used to it, in fact, because of that, people born and/or raised there, are much less succeptible to all kinds of flu and respiratory illness. Our health is above normal, not super humans, but a lot more resistent.
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That sounds amazing. I am glad to find out that there are places and people like this. Good luck to you. :)
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Thank you very much! For you too! And your whole family and loved ones!
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The jetstream is not what it used to be anymore.
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can someone explain me how is practical life when temperature goes -20C, -30C


what kind of insulation you have in your home? windows? heating? temperature and humidity in your house?
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it's the new normal
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but we've seen fuck all yet. i think we could get extremes like you have in the midwest regularly, all over the world. huge tornadoes, everywhere. extremes of hot and cold, no matter the season. up will be down and black will be white.

i think we're all in an awful lot of trouble.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30962522


There is a strong pressure, impulse to accept this as ''the new normal''.
Everyone knows the world is changing, but they just accept it and carry on. This is THE WEATHER and THE EARTH. Every individual feels powerless in front of these powers and therefore humbly lives on as it seems that there is nothing to be done.
 Quoting: Enjoy Candy!


pope2 Ahum, 'i think this man can stand it, the weather'.

ohyeah

On topic,

Agree what you wrote above! ohyeah
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can someone explain me how is practical life when temperature goes -20C, -30C


what kind of insulation you have in your home? windows? heating? temperature and humidity in your house?
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To be hones, I do not know what insulation is used. Basic PVC windows and probably decent insulation for the newer house, a lot of older apartment buildings don't have this.
We have central heating, some use their own boilers and furnaces to heat their houses.
The room temperature should be around 22C. The central heating gets turned on only when the average temperature outside is around +5C, so it might be average 7C for a while and no heating - your home can get a bit cold in these periods, but it lasts only a 2-3 weeks. So if it is cold in your house, you wear socks and warm clothing. I am wearing thick, knitted wool socks right now.
If you have a decent coat, decent boots, a sweater, scarf, thick gloves and a hat, you will not experience much discomfort while being outside at -20 for short periods of time,assuming you are not used to a much warmer weather. It gets bad when there is wind. When windy the -20C might seem like -30... Your face hurts from the cold wind, so I cover up with a scarf. I hate when it is windy and avoid going outside.
It becomes very slippery in spring when the snow begins to melt, as it might be around +3C and then -2C and the melted snow would freeze, with water on top of it - very dangerous, you walk like penguin in this weather. This actually happened on the 25th.
Enjoy Candy!  (OP)

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it's the new normal
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but we've seen fuck all yet. i think we could get extremes like you have in the midwest regularly, all over the world. huge tornadoes, everywhere. extremes of hot and cold, no matter the season. up will be down and black will be white.

i think we're all in an awful lot of trouble.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30962522


There is a strong pressure, impulse to accept this as ''the new normal''.
Everyone knows the world is changing, but they just accept it and carry on. This is THE WEATHER and THE EARTH. Every individual feels powerless in front of these powers and therefore humbly lives on as it seems that there is nothing to be done.
 Quoting: Enjoy Candy!


pope2 Ahum, 'i think this man can stand it, the weather'.

ohyeah

On topic,

Agree what you wrote above! ohyeah
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1562146



ohyeah
Do you think he is kinda like this?
[link to www.youtube.com]
lol 1rof1
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but we've seen fuck all yet. i think we could get extremes like you have in the midwest regularly, all over the world. huge tornadoes, everywhere. extremes of hot and cold, no matter the season. up will be down and black will be white.

i think we're all in an awful lot of trouble.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30962522


There is a strong pressure, impulse to accept this as ''the new normal''.
Everyone knows the world is changing, but they just accept it and carry on. This is THE WEATHER and THE EARTH. Every individual feels powerless in front of these powers and therefore humbly lives on as it seems that there is nothing to be done.
 Quoting: Enjoy Candy!


pope2 Ahum, 'i think this man can stand it, the weather'.

ohyeah

On topic,

Agree what you wrote above! ohyeah
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ohyeah
Do you think he is kinda like this?
[link to www.youtube.com]
lol 1rof1
 Quoting: Enjoy Candy!


putincruise
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Re: From 0ºF to 37ºF overnight. WTF?
can someone explain me how is practical life when temperature goes -20C, -30C


what kind of insulation you have in your home? windows? heating? temperature and humidity in your house?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31028611


To be hones, I do not know what insulation is used. Basic PVC windows and probably decent insulation for the newer house, a lot of older apartment buildings don't have this.
We have central heating, some use their own boilers and furnaces to heat their houses.
The room temperature should be around 22C. The central heating gets turned on only when the average temperature outside is around +5C, so it might be average 7C for a while and no heating - your home can get a bit cold in these periods, but it lasts only a 2-3 weeks. So if it is cold in your house, you wear socks and warm clothing. I am wearing thick, knitted wool socks right now.
If you have a decent coat, decent boots, a sweater, scarf, thick gloves and a hat, you will not experience much discomfort while being outside at -20 for short periods of time,assuming you are not used to a much warmer weather. It gets bad when there is wind. When windy the -20C might seem like -30... Your face hurts from the cold wind, so I cover up with a scarf. I hate when it is windy and avoid going outside.
It becomes very slippery in spring when the snow begins to melt, as it might be around +3C and then -2C and the melted snow would freeze, with water on top of it - very dangerous, you walk like penguin in this weather. This actually happened on the 25th.
 Quoting: Enjoy Candy!


thanks

since I was also "fighting" such situation in a milder climate (over there the temp can go to -17, but I had quite a problem with temp like -5 -7..) I was wondering how the hell could you survive at -30...especially if you do not have efficient and cheap heating and not good insulation





GLP