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Keneh

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well at least now we have a real doom date.
high noon Jan. 16, 2013

so the revolution begins

so be it
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Is Jan. 16 going to be the new 4th of July?
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Dick act of 1902 wonder if Obummer has ever even read it?
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Yea, no shit huh...ALLLLLLL Aboard...Revolution street next stop....
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Alternate theory here. Obama must know whats going to happen! Is it possible he is trying to start the second American Revolution?
"Taxation without representation" bumper sticker? Is he trying to tell us something?
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yes, I believe he is saying "Bend over bitches"
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Man this guy is like Hitler. Going to surround himself with children as a Jesus figure promising to protect them. This is fuckin nuts! And the sheep will eat it up. The Antichrist is here people take a good look at him. He will bring so much destruction to the globe.
And never mind about about his 7 year peace treaty that their working on right now and to be signed in March. Prepare people the veil is coming down.
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hitler did the exact same thing for photo ops, surrounded himself with children.

it's almost comical
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This gun ban business is very serious, but it's becoming a major distraction from other important things that need to be talked about.
 Quoting: jack of all trades

Erm.. Jack?? blink It's not about gun bans, it's about the inalienable RIGHT for freemen to protect themselves from tyrannical government. Why can people not get this through their heads?
 Quoting: Éireann


As someone else eluded to on here, it's not about a "right" written on a piece of paper, that has been trampled and distorted to the point that it is nothing as it was originally intended to be, but about the WILLINGNESS TO SHOW FORCE. That's what it comes down to. We don't need a piece of paper to have a right to something, we need the willingness to show force when necessary to protect what is ours, and if in the course of showing that force we succeed or don't succeed, at least we did something rather than relying on something that is not actually guaranteed.
 Quoting: jack of all trades

Um.

What the FUCK are you talking about? Show of force? Willingness to show force? What planet did you fall off of just now? I feel like I've just been DC'd. That was absolutely several sentences of saying absolutely nothing about absolutely nothing. What the hell are you talking about?

It's about the RIGHT of American's to arm themselves and be able to protect themselves from tyrannical government. WTF? You're going to break that down into..."a person has the right to own a gun so long as he doesn't display a WILLINGNESS to show force against (*insert innocent name of group here)." ????

Are you fucking joking? Do you not even comprehend what you are saying???

Holy shit!!! I can't believe how STUPID American's have become. This is utterly breath taking!

What the hell are you saying? Are you for or against people being able to own guns to be able to show that force?

blink

If I've completely misinterpreted your post, can you please link me to the post you are referring to? Somehow this just hit me as a nonsequeter and my brain can not process.

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This gun ban business is very serious, but it's becoming a major distraction from other important things that need to be talked about.
 Quoting: jack of all trades


If they succeed with their REAL intentions, which is to totally disarm the serfs, then there will be nothing else to talk about.

Not much else matters, when you are dead, imprisoned, or whacked out on forced "medication".
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Obviously, we must never have a Democrat for president again.

Congressional Dems, good fucking luck come 2014.
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Obviously, we must never have a Democrat for president again.

Congressional Dems, good fucking luck come 2014.
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Oh shut the hell up, shill thread derailer. There is no difference between parties. Same pond, different fish. Next!!!

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Obviously, we must never have a Democrat for president again.

Congressional Dems, good fucking luck come 2014.
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voting
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so about that fiscal cliff?

laugh5

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We need to block this at the state level ASAP.
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We need to block this at the state level ASAP.
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but but you in japan buried in radioactive snow, what you mean by we? and that does not work here in new york
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5*'s OP. I think we all know what is coming...
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Watched a second broadcast on CSPAN about gun control sponsored by Johns Hopkins University. The speakers got into how they could keep guns out of the hands of certain individuals, like the mentally ill, those convicted of certain crimes, or those who are on terrorist watch lists. Who determines who is among these people? They also discussed smart gun technology and requiring all who buy and sell guns and ammo, even privately, to undergo a "universal background check". They also spoke about "personalizing" a gun. No real details were discussed on how this is to be accomplished, but heres what I think they are planning on doing, and its not just the democrats who're behind this either. The ONLY way they can do this is if they move to a totally electronic system of buying and selling. The individual weapons would be electronically marked with an RFID and registered to an owner in a database. To buy a weapon from a private citizen the buyer would be required to use an electronic means to conduct the transaction, such as a smart phone. Using this method of payment a background check on the buyer would automatically occur. If the buyer passes the background check, the transaction would be "authorized", and since the gun has an RFID on it, it would automatically be re-registered to the buyer. If the buyer does not pass the background check then the transaction would not be allowed. What would happen to the potential buyer after that is anyones guess. Should the seller of the gun accept any other method of payment, like through bartering, both the buyer and the seller would automatically be in violation of the LAW, and therefore no longer a "law abiding citizen". Personalization of a weapon might entail matching the weapon to the owner/operator using electronic means so that the weapon will not fire in any other persons hands. The weapon could also be dissabled remotely, much as vehicles can now be dissabled. Of course, anyone circumventing the "law" will become an instant criminal.
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:obozocng:
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Well it's easy for you to point out the obvious isn't it? Yes he's a commie muslem dictator Marxist blah blah blah. But what you fail to comment on is that he was selected to sit in this role of destroyer of Americas freedoms and rights by the same Cabalist Jesus hating Jews that fund all puppet government sponsored terrorism, including sticking the terrorist state you profess to love so much in the middle east.

You are a wolf in sheeps clothing mingling amongst those you would enjoy to see slayed. You may fool some, but not all. Remove Obozo, then all the zionazis within government and from there abolish the unfederal reserve for starters.
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We need to block this at the state level ASAP.
 Quoting: InnerFireBurning


but but you in japan buried in radioactive snow, what you mean by we? and that does not work here in new york
 Quoting: mrmuffins69


I served my country for 8 years in the United States Navy.

Did you serve? If not then don't talk to me about patriotism.

Ya I am starting to realize what a den of vipers New York is.

Do you live in the city, because if so then good luck staying safe there if things get worse.

All they have to do is block anyone leaving if something was to happen and you would be simply screwed.

Peace!
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Watched a second broadcast on CSPAN about gun control sponsored by Johns Hopkins University. The speakers got into how they could keep guns out of the hands of certain individuals, like the mentally ill, those convicted of certain crimes, or those who are on terrorist watch lists. Who determines who is among these people? They also discussed smart gun technology and requiring all who buy and sell guns and ammo, even privately, to undergo a "universal background check". They also spoke about "personalizing" a gun. No real details were discussed on how this is to be accomplished, but heres what I think they are planning on doing, and its not just the democrats who're behind this either. The ONLY way they can do this is if they move to a totally electronic system of buying and selling. The individual weapons would be electronically marked with an RFID and registered to an owner in a database. To buy a weapon from a private citizen the buyer would be required to use an electronic means to conduct the transaction, such as a smart phone. Using this method of payment a background check on the buyer would automatically occur. If the buyer passes the background check, the transaction would be "authorized", and since the gun has an RFID on it, it would automatically be re-registered to the buyer. If the buyer does not pass the background check then the transaction would not be allowed. What would happen to the potential buyer after that is anyones guess. Should the seller of the gun accept any other method of payment, like through bartering, both the buyer and the seller would automatically be in violation of the LAW, and therefore no longer a "law abiding citizen". Personalization of a weapon might entail matching the weapon to the owner/operator using electronic means so that the weapon will not fire in any other persons hands. The weapon could also be dissabled remotely, much as vehicles can now be dissabled. Of course, anyone circumventing the "law" will become an instant criminal.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30845354


Looked up personalization of weapons using electronic technology and my suspicions are confirmed. The only way a personalized gun will fire is if it recognizes the owner/operator using biometric technology. Recent advances in this technology are ready and waiting to be introduced by electronics companies and firearms manufactures. Will the only way anyone will be "authorized" to "buy or sell" in the near future entail every human having an electronic "mark" put "on" them? Kinda looks that way.
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We need to block this at the state level ASAP.
 Quoting: InnerFireBurning


but but you in japan buried in radioactive snow, what you mean by we? and that does not work here in new york
 Quoting: mrmuffins69


I served my country for 8 years in the United States Navy.

Did you serve? If not then don't talk to me about patriotism.

Ya I am starting to realize what a den of vipers New York is.

Do you live in the city, because if so then good luck staying safe there if things get worse.

All they have to do is block anyone leaving if something was to happen and you would be simply screwed.

Peace!
 Quoting: InnerFireBurning


im sorry i didnt know, and i think you misunderstood what i was trying to say, let me clear it up. i thought you were a japanese citizen which means you have pretty much no say in the affairs of states. now that since you are a veteran you definitely have a voice and in fact a bigger voice since most people respect veterans. now being in new york it is ultra liberal which means this is gonna pass no matter what, they rushed the bill to get it signed. i live 30 minutes outside the city so im in the clear. sorry again
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im sorry i didnt know, and i think you misunderstood what i was trying to say, let me clear it up. i thought you were a japanese citizen which means you have pretty much no say in the affairs of states. now that since you are a veteran you definitely have a voice and in fact a bigger voice since most people respect veterans. now being in new york it is ultra liberal which means this is gonna pass no matter what, they rushed the bill to get it signed. i live 30 minutes outside the city so im in the clear. sorry again
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Well I can see how having Japan as my country would do that.

I guess I need a signature saying I am from the U.S. or something, just living overseas.

The reason I am here is that I got married to a Japanese woman while I was serving over here. I like it, and just didn't see a reason to leave. Her whole family is really cool, and its quite beautiful landscape, etc.

I tried to remove my bad karma vote, but I dont think I can lol. I also tried to give you a good Karma vote, again to no avail since it said you can only give one to a person a week.

Let me apologize for that, and I do wish I could remove it. I will make sure and make it up to you later OK.
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im sorry i didnt know, and i think you misunderstood what i was trying to say, let me clear it up. i thought you were a japanese citizen which means you have pretty much no say in the affairs of states. now that since you are a veteran you definitely have a voice and in fact a bigger voice since most people respect veterans. now being in new york it is ultra liberal which means this is gonna pass no matter what, they rushed the bill to get it signed. i live 30 minutes outside the city so im in the clear. sorry again
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Well I can see how having Japan as my country would do that.

I guess I need a signature saying I am from the U.S. or something, just living overseas.

The reason I am here is that I got married to a Japanese woman while I was serving over here. I like it, and just didn't see a reason to leave. Her whole family is really cool, and its quite beautiful landscape, etc.

I tried to remove my bad karma vote, but I dont think I can lol. I also tried to give you a good Karma vote, again to no avail since it said you can only give one to a person a week.

Let me apologize for that, and I do wish I could remove it. I will make sure and make it up to you later OK.
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i could care less about the karma, were on the same page n thats what matters. i would like to get the hell outta here but i tons of family here and just dont have the funds for it
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im sorry i didnt know, and i think you misunderstood what i was trying to say, let me clear it up. i thought you were a japanese citizen which means you have pretty much no say in the affairs of states. now that since you are a veteran you definitely have a voice and in fact a bigger voice since most people respect veterans. now being in new york it is ultra liberal which means this is gonna pass no matter what, they rushed the bill to get it signed. i live 30 minutes outside the city so im in the clear. sorry again
 Quoting: mrmuffins69


Well I can see how having Japan as my country would do that.

I guess I need a signature saying I am from the U.S. or something, just living overseas.

The reason I am here is that I got married to a Japanese woman while I was serving over here. I like it, and just didn't see a reason to leave. Her whole family is really cool, and its quite beautiful landscape, etc.

I tried to remove my bad karma vote, but I dont think I can lol. I also tried to give you a good Karma vote, again to no avail since it said you can only give one to a person a week.

Let me apologize for that, and I do wish I could remove it. I will make sure and make it up to you later OK.
 Quoting: InnerFireBurning


i think you need upgraded account to have a signature, im a tad short on karma to five you a free upgrade, you need 50 for trial for a friend and i only have 46
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i could care less about the karma, were on the same page n thats what matters. i would like to get the hell outta here but i tons of family here and just dont have the funds for it
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Well at least you are outside of the city, that means a lot.

I view big cities as death traps, and I have never once lived in one. I grew up in the deep woods of northern California, and I am a country boy at heart.

Don't worry too much about being in the USA, there are a whole lot of good people there that will defend it from tyranny. There are a lot of militia members in many states, and they are ready and willing to stand up for what is right.

Many ex-military guys like me have simply had enough with what they are doing to the country, and will be on the "good side" there to protect it if things do get really bad.

In a way I kinda wish I was there to support the USA and defend freedom, but I can still do quite a bit via the internet from over here. That is for now at least, and I really hope that they don't succeed in censoring free speech on the net anytime soon.

Peace!
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i think you need upgraded account to have a signature, im a tad short on karma to five you a free upgrade, you need 50 for trial for a friend and i only have 46
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I want an avatar too so maybe I will upgrade it soon.
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And one more time, I'm pasting this in hope at least some will begin to pay attention:

>>>>>>

Ppfffffftttttttt-----

Obama said the words out of his own mouth this morning during his news conference:

"An assault weapons ban with meaning"

The NRA needs threats to the 2nd Amendment in general and towards weapons/ weapon owners in specific just like the DEA/ State/ and Local Law Enforcement need the Drug Cartels. Without this faceless "enemy" or "boogie man" to demonize - the money dries up. Just as importantly; they need to take advantage at every turn possible to claim "victories" for the 2nd/ gun owners when capitulation to the very rights they purport to preserve is given.

Otherwise, there would have NEVER been anything even remotely close to "compromises", or the touted "victories" associated with such.

The 2nd Amendment, as well as the balance of the BoR has ZERO room for compromise. ZERO. Consider for just a moment that a "compromise" had been reached regarding the 1st Amendment - specifically that regarding Freedom of the Press - since there's no way the Founding Fathers could have ever conceived the Internet, the proliferation of pornography, garbage reporting that is openly slanted towards Progressive/ Liberalism/ Marxism/ Socialism under the guise of "journalism", etc. The outrage would be deafening - specifically from every liberal, lying, US hating "journalist" and their associated rag of tripe out there.

Oh wait, that only works when one refers to suppressing Christianity.

What of the 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, and 8th? Where is the line of compromise we should be willing and even celebratory in accepting on these Amendments?

To acknowledge that there is, in fact, current heavy movement in the direction of greater restrictions/ bans/ or even talk of confiscation would be a direct admission that their rhetoric over the past 30 or so years has been just that - rhetoric, translating into monies from donations and memberships have been wasted, and the coffers would dry up so quickly that their heads would spin.

The Constitution and the Bill of Rights were written in the late 18th Century. During this composition, there was great concern, concentration, debate, and ultimate decision reached on the core issues believed to A) be inalienable as granted by the Creator, and B) necessary to ensure both the construction and continued success of the Nation. It was written in plain English specifically so that even the most elementary of education would be able to understand the Spirit of the Constitution, as well as cautious enough to not leave open any windows for skewing or taking out of context.

"...Shall not be infringed" fit those two(2) aforementioned requirements - it is very simple, straightforward, and closes the door immediately on any attempt to disarm or otherwise restrict the arming of the people.

I, nor the balance of this nation, do not need some slick-talking Charlatan, whether elected and taking my money or an employee of a commercial organization begging for my money, to travel to Washington in order to beg for my ability to interpret this document any differently than it was written, nor to freely exercise the GOD-GIVEN RIGHTS DENOTED THEREIN.

FREE MEN DON'T ASK PERMISSION
 Quoting: ClydeX

Wow! Some one who gets it...and I mean - GETS it :)

Proud to be your fellow American, ClydeX!

yay

An armed populace is and always will be the only defence against tyrannical governments as long as Man lusts for power - period! It is our only defence against tyranny should all other avenues fail. I will not, and CAN not in good faith surrender my right to protect myself and those I love from tyranny, and I will not allow any government to redefine the definition of tyrannical in such a way that freemen become enemies to the public instead of tyrannical government. Things have gotten so twisted that even saying that we uphold the US Constitution labels us as some kind of gun-toting terrorist and I will not stand for this shit!
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Thank you for the kind words.

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Job 12:7) But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee; and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee:
8) Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee.
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i could care less about the karma, were on the same page n thats what matters. i would like to get the hell outta here but i tons of family here and just dont have the funds for it
 Quoting: mrmuffins69


Well at least you are outside of the city, that means a lot.

I view big cities as death traps, and I have never once lived in one. I grew up in the deep woods of northern California, and I am a country boy at heart.

Don't worry too much about being in the USA, there are a whole lot of good people there that will defend it from tyranny. There are a lot of militia members in many states, and they are ready and willing to stand up for what is right.

Many ex-military guys like me have simply had enough with what they are doing to the country, and will be on the "good side" there to protect it if things do get really bad.

In a way I kinda wish I was there to support the USA and defend freedom, but I can still do quite a bit via the internet from over here. That is for now at least, and I really hope that they don't succeed in censoring free speech on the net anytime soon.

Peace!
 Quoting: InnerFireBurning


i dont want out of usa, just out of new york. 10 bucks monthly charge for glp. there is a way to turn off the automatic charge, i just dont know how
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[link to www.washingtonpost.com]

"President Obama will unveil a sweeping set of gun-control proposals at midday Wednesday, including an assault weapons ban, universal background checks and limits on the number of bullets magazines can hold, according to sources familiar with the plans.

The announcement, to be delivered at the White House, is also expected to include a slate of up to 19 executive actions that the Obama administration can take on its own to attempt to limit gun violence. The White House has invited key lawmakers as well as gun-control advocates to appear at Wednesday’s policy rollout, according to two officials who have been invited to the event."

He pushes even ONE of the EO's through and the fucker needs to be arrested. A president that bypasses the house and the senate to achieve what he wants is NOT a president as designed by the fore father's political playing field...this sumbitch is a dictator, a monarch, a king and he needs to be detrhoned should a single damn ONE of thew EO's get pushed through.
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EO Declaration of War on the 2nd

Sign up troopers!

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