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Now That We Know Sandy Hook Was a Hoax, What Do We Do Now? Lawsuit? Brainstorm | |
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BruceDeitrickPrice  User ID: 8283201 United States01/15/2013 07:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What about the local officials, the medical examiner, the chief of police, the mayor, the police? If there is a conspiracy, presumably some of these people know about it, even if they're not part of it. Have they broken the law by not reporting the conspiracy? You say you're an attorney. So you could clarify the legal liability that these people have to worry about. |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1379977 United States01/15/2013 08:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What about the local officials, the medical examiner, the chief of police, the mayor, the police? If there is a conspiracy, presumably some of these people know about it, even if they're not part of it. Have they broken the law by not reporting the conspiracy? You say you're an attorney. So you could clarify the legal liability that these people have to worry about. Quoting: BruceDeitrickPrice Well if any of the local officials that you listed were actually involved in the conspiracy, then they certainly could be held criminally liable for multiple claims. You would have to see what it is they got in return for their compliance. If it is monetary then bribery and interference with police a investigation would be viable claims. I think you could still bring a civil action against them for fraud. From what I have seen so far, I am not as concerned that the local officials are in on the conspiracy(with the exception of the medical examiner). In fact, I think they many of them are asking the same type of questions that we are. The real lawsuit would be against the actors. No one would make money in the case, but it would be a perfect way for the world to recognize their lies. Can you imagine having the opportunity to put the whole Greenberg family on the stand? It would be powerful. |
| G. House User ID: 933279 United States01/15/2013 08:24 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone who has followed the topic with any diligence now knows that the official Sandy Hook narrative is complete fabrication. Now I ask you good people what are we to do about it? We have accomplished the first task of getting the facts of the fraud out, so what is the next step? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1379977 My personal opinion is that someone must step to the plate and bring a legal action against the known Greenberg/Sexton actors that posed as family members of Victoria Soto and the others that clearly we part of the dysinfo campaign. I am an attorney, but unfortunately not in Connecticut. However, a suit could be filed against these individuals for multiple claims: 1. Intentional infliction of emotional distress- ie your fake allegations caused me damage 2. Fraud 3. Interference with a police investigation 4. Impersonating a government agent. etc. The criminal charges would have to be filed by a District Attorney. We would need a Jim Garrison to do this, however, the civil lawsuit (Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress) could be filed by any Connecticut attorney as long as he has a client willing to sue.(I.E. any connecticut native.) Honestly, any american could make this claim in any state's federal court given the wide exposure of this incident. So if you interested, contact a like minded attorney. Just some thoughts, I will be back later to talk some more. One last thing though. one way that I know that this a hoax is that the Greenberg/Sexton family has done NOTHING to refute any of the mass claims being made against them over half the internet right now. A normal person/family in this position would be threatening liable lawsuits right now. But, they know that they can't for two reasons 1. The MSM would actually start talking about it, perhaps 2. If discovery or a trial occurred they would be forced to defend the alarming factual evidence against them, which they can not. So, what say you? This is what I say... all you have is conjecture... no real PROOF that would hold up in a court of law. Keep it up... people like YOU and others here at GLP will be the DEATH of free speech on the internet. Because at heart you approach this stuff in a completely irresponsible manner. It's friggen sickening. YOU people think that if you repeat something enough times no matter how wild or unsubstantiated that it makes it FACT. A lot of people that gravitate to this site have an agenda and are EXTREMELY gullible when viewing material that supports their fucked up view of the world. They have no powers of discernment in their tunnel vision. And what you end up with is a lot of material that goes over the line in regards to libel. If there were only a few of you doing this I'm sure people would be starting lawsuits over things like this. But because of the nature of the internet there are just too many idiots like you to prosecute and in the end they will take away free speech on the internet. You will only have yourselves to blame. OK, play the shill card now. "Everybody lies." |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1379977 United States01/15/2013 08:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone who has followed the topic with any diligence now knows that the official Sandy Hook narrative is complete fabrication. Now I ask you good people what are we to do about it? We have accomplished the first task of getting the facts of the fraud out, so what is the next step? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1379977 My personal opinion is that someone must step to the plate and bring a legal action against the known Greenberg/Sexton actors that posed as family members of Victoria Soto and the others that clearly we part of the dysinfo campaign. I am an attorney, but unfortunately not in Connecticut. However, a suit could be filed against these individuals for multiple claims: 1. Intentional infliction of emotional distress- ie your fake allegations caused me damage 2. Fraud 3. Interference with a police investigation 4. Impersonating a government agent. etc. The criminal charges would have to be filed by a District Attorney. We would need a Jim Garrison to do this, however, the civil lawsuit (Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress) could be filed by any Connecticut attorney as long as he has a client willing to sue.(I.E. any connecticut native.) Honestly, any american could make this claim in any state's federal court given the wide exposure of this incident. So if you interested, contact a like minded attorney. Just some thoughts, I will be back later to talk some more. One last thing though. one way that I know that this a hoax is that the Greenberg/Sexton family has done NOTHING to refute any of the mass claims being made against them over half the internet right now. A normal person/family in this position would be threatening liable lawsuits right now. But, they know that they can't for two reasons 1. The MSM would actually start talking about it, perhaps 2. If discovery or a trial occurred they would be forced to defend the alarming factual evidence against them, which they can not. So, what say you? This is what I say... all you have is conjecture... no real PROOF that would hold up in a court of law. Keep it up... people like YOU and others here at GLP will be the DEATH of free speech on the internet. Because at heart you approach this stuff in a completely irresponsible manner. It's friggen sickening. YOU people think that if you repeat something enough times no matter how wild or unsubstantiated that it makes it FACT. A lot of people that gravitate to this site have an agenda and are EXTREMELY gullible when viewing material that supports their fucked up view of the world. They have no powers of discernment in their tunnel vision. And what you end up with is a lot of material that goes over the line in regards to libel. If there were only a few of you doing this I'm sure people would be starting lawsuits over things like this. But because of the nature of the internet there are just too many idiots like you to prosecute and in the end they will take away free speech on the internet. You will only have yourselves to blame. OK, play the shill card now. I will just have to disagree with you sir. There is plenty of hard evidence out there right now to file a lawsuit. The hard evidence would come through subpoena of these people's records, computers, emails etc. that is how lawsuits work. That is the interesting catch 22 here, in order to get what you need, the lawsuit must be filed. |
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| G. House User ID: 933279 United States01/15/2013 09:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone who has followed the topic with any diligence now knows that the official Sandy Hook narrative is complete fabrication. Now I ask you good people what are we to do about it? We have accomplished the first task of getting the facts of the fraud out, so what is the next step? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1379977 My personal opinion is that someone must step to the plate and bring a legal action against the known Greenberg/Sexton actors that posed as family members of Victoria Soto and the others that clearly we part of the dysinfo campaign. I am an attorney, but unfortunately not in Connecticut. However, a suit could be filed against these individuals for multiple claims: 1. Intentional infliction of emotional distress- ie your fake allegations caused me damage 2. Fraud 3. Interference with a police investigation 4. Impersonating a government agent. etc. The criminal charges would have to be filed by a District Attorney. We would need a Jim Garrison to do this, however, the civil lawsuit (Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress) could be filed by any Connecticut attorney as long as he has a client willing to sue.(I.E. any connecticut native.) Honestly, any american could make this claim in any state's federal court given the wide exposure of this incident. So if you interested, contact a like minded attorney. Just some thoughts, I will be back later to talk some more. One last thing though. one way that I know that this a hoax is that the Greenberg/Sexton family has done NOTHING to refute any of the mass claims being made against them over half the internet right now. A normal person/family in this position would be threatening liable lawsuits right now. But, they know that they can't for two reasons 1. The MSM would actually start talking about it, perhaps 2. If discovery or a trial occurred they would be forced to defend the alarming factual evidence against them, which they can not. So, what say you? This is what I say... all you have is conjecture... no real PROOF that would hold up in a court of law. Keep it up... people like YOU and others here at GLP will be the DEATH of free speech on the internet. Because at heart you approach this stuff in a completely irresponsible manner. It's friggen sickening. YOU people think that if you repeat something enough times no matter how wild or unsubstantiated that it makes it FACT. A lot of people that gravitate to this site have an agenda and are EXTREMELY gullible when viewing material that supports their fucked up view of the world. They have no powers of discernment in their tunnel vision. And what you end up with is a lot of material that goes over the line in regards to libel. If there were only a few of you doing this I'm sure people would be starting lawsuits over things like this. But because of the nature of the internet there are just too many idiots like you to prosecute and in the end they will take away free speech on the internet. You will only have yourselves to blame. OK, play the shill card now. I will just have to disagree with you sir. There is plenty of hard evidence out there right now to file a lawsuit. The hard evidence would come through subpoena of these people's records, computers, emails etc. that is how lawsuits work. That is the interesting catch 22 here, in order to get what you need, the lawsuit must be filed. You're a friggen ASS. You get the evidence and THEN make the case. Not PUBLICLY make accusations before hand. What the fuck is wrong with your thought process? You obviously don't know how courts work. There is no way to get an impartial jury the way you people approach this. You will have tainted the entire American populace. And let's look at YOUR statement: "There is plenty of hard evidence out there right now to file a lawsuit. The hard evidence would come through subpoena of these people's records, computers, emails etc." You more or less admitted YOU have no hard evidence as it would have to be subpoenaed. What you have admitted is that you have SUSPICION that hard evidence exists. You don't KNOW it exists, you just THINK it exists. Basically as I said before ALL YOU HAVE IS CONJECTURE. "Everybody lies." |
| Lemon User ID: 5766356 United States01/15/2013 09:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP - could a lawsuit beat a multi-million dollar PR campaign? I like your thinking, but the plaintiff would be painted as a lunatic trying to profit from the families of dead children. & if you did make progress and uncover the conspiracy of our ruling elite, you may face larger problems. I'm not saying give up, I'm just not sure you can bring down a corrupt system from within the corrupt system. **I'm all out of bubblegum |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1379977 United States01/15/2013 09:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Obviously g house you don't understand. All you must have is a reasonable basis to bring the law suit. Through the discovery process you get the hard evidence. This is standard in any civil action. And what I m saying here is enough vidence now exists against the Greenberg/sexton/soto involvement to get you over the hump(summary judgement) to where discovery could occur. You are making the exact same argument that they did against Jim garrison in the JFK lawsuit. Yet, he brought it all out into the open. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1379977 United States01/15/2013 09:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP - could a lawsuit beat a multi-million dollar PR campaign? Quoting: Lemon I like your thinking, but the plaintiff would be painted as a lunatic trying to profit from the families of dead children. & if you did make progress and uncover the conspiracy of our ruling elite, you may face larger problems. I'm not saying give up, I'm just not sure you can bring down a corrupt system from within the corrupt system. Your right, the defense will certainly attempt to paint the plaintiff as a money grubbing low life. For that reason, the plaintiff would have to testify to giving any potential verdict to charity of some sort. That would negate that attack. Again, the point of the lawsuit would not be money, but rather to put the whole sandy hook conspiracy on trial. It would be a uphill battle, but one thing I still believe in, and we still have, is a trial by a jury of your peers. 12 people hearing the evidence will make the decision, not a judge or the system itself. It would certainly open the doors to some larger problems, but that shouldn't be a reason to back down from the fight. |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1379977 United States01/15/2013 09:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would assume that CT, like my state has an open records act/freedom of information act. I am not certain, but these won't be available until the investigation is complete. Once done, a petition can be filed in state court requesting this type of information. Depends on the state statue. I will try to look up CT,s law. However, I suspect that no film exists. |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1379977 United States01/15/2013 10:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We only need to show emotional injury from conspiracy to survive test of standing by the way Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16797046 // Exactly. When the civil lawsuit is filed, the plaintiff doesn't have the same burden in a criminal lawsuit, therefore no preliminary hearing. You then request sufficient time from the court for discovery and there you go. Next you can review computers, take depositions and obtain some things you otherwise couldn't. For jurisdictional purposes I think it would have to be filed in Federal Court in CT or Florida. If that is in fact where the Greenberg/Sexton family live. |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1379977 United States01/15/2013 11:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | organize all the facts and paperwork or other evidence. then get the complete file <make several copies n hide some> to glen beck,rush,john baener,the republican governors,state reps,mayors and then to the UN.give em 90 days to cross -check all the info n call em n see where it might lead.next step would b to get it to a military website so our soldiers can make a determination on which side they really stand. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22000823 Thanks for the input. |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1379977 United States01/15/2013 11:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is the statue I was talking about. [link to www.cga.ct.gov] Long story short, if the film does exist,you could not obtain it from the police department because it is a "Criminal Justice" division of the state and doesn't fall under the statute. However, a argument could be made that the film is actually property of the Sandy Hook Elementary school which does fall under the statue. So there is a chance there. Unfortunately it looks like your request would have to be approved by a "Open Records Board". You would really need some public support to get that done I would figure. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1379977 United States01/15/2013 11:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You need to have "standing" Who actually has been harmed? All the families of the deceased seem to be smiling and happy while being interviewed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30605535 That is the great thing about it, everyone who has watched TV for the past month theoretically has standing to sue because we were emotionally damaged by the idea that Victoria Soto and Emily Parker were murdered in cold blood. But in fact they were not. As a result you were directly damaged/injured by their fraud. That is the definition of standing. |
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