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if god is real there is no purpose of life

 
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if there is no god, we have a purpose... to become a strong powerful race that can beat the aliens up. because right now the aliens could probably kill us with laser beams that come out of their ass

and if there was a god... there would be no purpose of life... (because Jesus is apparently coming to save us all so we may as well not do anything and just sit here and wait like the Christians are already doing instead of helping the world)
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If god is real, he will crush you like a bug.

That is what you should be concerned about, no?
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If atheism is a religion...

Not believing in Santa Claus is also a religion.
Unemployment is a job.
Not collecting stamps is a hobby.
Not playing tennis is a sport.
Abstinence is a sexual activity.
An empty bowl is a meal.
Silence is a noise.
Remaining silent is a speech.
Not fighting is an act of violence.
Bald is a hair colour.
Nudity is a costume.
Cleanliness is a stain.
Empty can be a content.
0km/h is a velocity.
0 g has a mass
0 is a positive number.
0 is a negative number.
Sanity is a mental illness.
Being dead is an illness.

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Beliefs bring comfort.

Get good at being uncomfortable. : )


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Wouldn't the point be to improve as a human in a spiritual sense?
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No, if god created us we are just his little toys and he has left us on the side of the road. we were created.. our life is meaningless.. we are just used up forgotten toys.

and/or something like this

a mother gives birth to a baby, mother leaves hospital and leaves baby on the side of the road or in a garbage bin. baby waits for mother to come back... 20 years later if the baby is somehow still alive it will still be wondering where her creator is... we are the baby, the garbage bin is Earth i guess. and god is the mother that left us on the side of the road... Good Job God.
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applause2
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If atheism is a religion...
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Atheism is a religion because there is no proof for evolution. It has never been observed.

Therefore it is a belief system of how life originated.

Too hard to understand?
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If atheism is a religion...

Not believing in Santa Claus is also a religion.
Unemployment is a job.
Not collecting stamps is a hobby.
Not playing tennis is a sport.
Abstinence is a sexual activity.
An empty bowl is a meal.
Silence is a noise.
Remaining silent is a speech.
Not fighting is an act of violence.
Bald is a hair colour.
Nudity is a costume.
Cleanliness is a stain.
Empty can be a content.
0km/h is a velocity.
0 g has a mass
0 is a positive number.
0 is a negative number.
Sanity is a mental illness.
Being dead is an illness.

 Quoting: Chris Hansen


People like you really upset me. Learn how to fucking read dipshit.

a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe

You are stuck on the idea that atheism is merely not believing in god - but atheism is BELIEVING IN SCIENCTIFIC THEORIES THAT ARE OFTEN AS WACK AS CHRISTIAN OR MUSLIM THEORIES:

Now fuck off.
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Beliefs bring comfort.

Get good at being uncomfortable. : )


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if atheism is a religion then discomfort is also comfort
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Beliefs bring comfort.

Get good at being uncomfortable. : )


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 Quoting: BOWMAN


if atheism is a religion then discomfort is also comfort
 Quoting: Chris Hansen


Comfort is a subjective issue. What's comfortable for one to believe maybe uncomfortable for the next guy. Bias free is the way to be. thumbs


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If atheism is a religion...

Not believing in Santa Claus is also a religion.
Unemployment is a job.
Not collecting stamps is a hobby.
Not playing tennis is a sport.
Abstinence is a sexual activity.
An empty bowl is a meal.
Silence is a noise.
Remaining silent is a speech.
Not fighting is an act of violence.
Bald is a hair colour.
Nudity is a costume.
Cleanliness is a stain.
Empty can be a content.
0km/h is a velocity.
0 g has a mass
0 is a positive number.
0 is a negative number.
Sanity is a mental illness.
Being dead is an illness.

 Quoting: Chris Hansen


People like you really upset me. Learn how to fucking read dipshit.

a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe

You are stuck on the idea that atheism is merely not believing in god - but atheism is BELIEVING IN SCIENCTIFIC THEORIES THAT ARE OFTEN AS WACK AS CHRISTIAN OR MUSLIM THEORIES:

Now fuck off.
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except THAT IS WRONG. and atheism has nothing to do with science, its just a disbelief of a god.

religion = belief of a god
atheism = disbelief of a god

if Atheism is a religion, then someone that is Athiest is also religious... now u dont see anything wrong with that?

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op i am sorry but you are talking out your ass the purpose of the christian is to work at being the best he can be so when it our time to die we die with no fear in knowing we are going to meet our lord and god that is why the lord gave us something no other living thing has and that is the right of choice not an animal instinct like a dog but a choice between right and wrong between knowing and ignoring you my freind are sadly mistaken he also gave us te strongest will to live and the will to fight for what is right
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op i am sorry but you are talking out your ass the purpose of the christian is to work at being the best he can be so when it our time to die we die with no fear in knowing we are going to meet our lord and god that is why the lord gave us something no other living thing has and that is the right of choice not an animal instinct like a dog but a choice between right and wrong between knowing and ignoring you my freind are sadly mistaken he also gave us te strongest will to live and the will to fight for what is right
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you know humans are animals right?

also u just swore, you are going to hell now i am sorry

unless u beg for forgiveness...

which also means u can go murder people then beg for forgiveness.. and still get into heaven.. what an amazing religion u have

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Fool, there is a purpose otherwise there wouldnt be a life. even if the purpose is to merely exist.
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If atheism is a religion...

Not believing in Santa Claus is also a religion.
Unemployment is a job.
Not collecting stamps is a hobby.
Not playing tennis is a sport.
Abstinence is a sexual activity.
An empty bowl is a meal.
Silence is a noise.
Remaining silent is a speech.
Not fighting is an act of violence.
Bald is a hair colour.
Nudity is a costume.
Cleanliness is a stain.
Empty can be a content.
0km/h is a velocity.
0 g has a mass
0 is a positive number.
0 is a negative number.
Sanity is a mental illness.
Being dead is an illness.

 Quoting: Chris Hansen


People like you really upset me. Learn how to fucking read dipshit.

a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe

You are stuck on the idea that atheism is merely not believing in god - but atheism is BELIEVING IN SCIENCTIFIC THEORIES THAT ARE OFTEN AS WACK AS CHRISTIAN OR MUSLIM THEORIES:

Now fuck off.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33189252


except THAT IS WRONG. and atheism has nothing to do with science, its just a disbelief of a god.

religion = belief of a god
atheism = disbelief of a god

if Atheism is a religion, then someone that is Athiest is also religious... now u dont see anything wrong with that?
 Quoting: Chris Hansen


" ... Atheism is accepted within some religious and spiritual belief systems, including Jainism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Raelism, Neopagan movements[19] such as Wicca,[20] and nontheistic religions. Jainism and some forms of Buddhism do not advocate belief in gods,[21]
whereas Hinduism holds atheism to be valid, but some schools view the path of an atheist to be difficult to follow in matters of spirituality ... "

So are those religions not really religions ? How come they are accepted as such ?

You fucking moron. You don't know shit you're talking about and merely spouting your brainwashed bullshit the media and society has indoctrinated you with.

Religion isn't just the belief in a god and atheism isn't just the disbelief in god. There is more to it, otherwise there wouldn't be so many religions and beliefs in the first place.

Honestly, you have problems mate.
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By the way show me one Atheist that doesn't believe in science.
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Buddhism is also not a religion, because they do not believe in god. i have even seen Buddhists say they are not a religion
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Personally I see this as a crash course for the soul, a complex classroom. Just a place to learn to deal with our emotions, each other, existence etc.

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but the alines are ther gods, so whats the problem?
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By the way show me one Atheist that doesn't believe in science.
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everyone believes in science... i said athiesm has nothing to do with science... if u dont believe in science then by your logic your computer should not be working
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By the way show me one Atheist that doesn't believe in science.
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everyone believes in science... i said athiesm has nothing to do with science... if u dont believe in science then by your logic your computer should not be working
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Atheists believe in evolution. Evolution is a belief system because it has never been observed.
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op i am sorry but you are talking out your ass the purpose of the christian is to work at being the best he can be so when it our time to die we die with no fear in knowing we are going to meet our lord and god that is why the lord gave us something no other living thing has and that is the right of choice not an animal instinct like a dog but a choice between right and wrong between knowing and ignoring you my freind are sadly mistaken he also gave us te strongest will to live and the will to fight for what is right
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you know humans are animals right?

also u just swore, you are going to hell now i am sorry

unless u beg for forgiveness...

which also means u can go murder people then beg for forgiveness.. and still get into heaven.. what an amazing religion u have
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You can murder people and don't care about it at all if you don't get caught.

And that's better?
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Before we know whether we believe in god, we ought to decide what god is. we dont need any religion to tell us what god is because each and every one of us has as much insight into the reality of god as all of historys collective religious teachings put together. I qualify this by the fact that NOBODY KNOWS. Most importantly, an opinion doesnt make you right. I have my own beliefs, I believe there is something that many humans call god, and I believe whatever it is, we are part of it, I am also an athiest when considering anything that we call god to be an individual being. see we can have it both ways.
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You can murder people and don't care about it at all if you don't get caught.

And that's better?


Since when did we need religion in order to know right from wrong?
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By the way show me one Atheist that doesn't believe in science.
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everyone believes in science... i said athiesm has nothing to do with science... if u dont believe in science then by your logic your computer should not be working
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Atheists believe in evolution. Evolution is a belief system because it has never been observed.
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But it has been observed.

Just not by THEIR definition (genetically).

That makes me sad. : (


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By the way show me one Atheist that doesn't believe in science.
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everyone believes in science... i said athiesm has nothing to do with science... if u dont believe in science then by your logic your computer should not be working
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Your logic is so twisted and dumb lol. It's just black and white, dualism at it's best.

I don't believe in science, because science is merely a way of trying to describe understand what happens on this plane of existence.

It's like the alphabet or numbers - we use them everyday in order to explain certain things, but they don't truly hold any value and could be easily replaced with a different structure.

Atheism has everything to do with science, because it was created out of science you dumb piece of shit. According to your logic, without science, atheism couldn't even exist. Because why do atheists have a disbelief in god ? Because science implies that. Simple fact.

I've been to Asia a couple of times and there are plenty of buddhists that consider their belief a religion. Because religions aren't simply based on the belief of god, but creation itself. How we came to be.

Both Science and Religion have answers (theories) for that particular question, so it makes them both the same.
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Since when did we need religion in order to know right from wrong?
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You have no idea how much this society needs to know right from wrong.
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By the way show me one Atheist that doesn't believe in science.
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everyone believes in science... i said athiesm has nothing to do with science... if u dont believe in science then by your logic your computer should not be working
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Your logic is so twisted and dumb lol. It's just black and white, dualism at it's best.

I don't believe in science, because science is merely a way of trying to describe understand what happens on this plane of existence.

It's like the alphabet or numbers - we use them everyday in order to explain certain things, but they don't truly hold any value and could be easily replaced with a different structure.

Atheism has everything to do with science, because it was created out of science you dumb piece of shit. According to your logic, without science, atheism couldn't even exist. Because why do atheists have a disbelief in god ? Because science implies that. Simple fact.

I've been to Asia a couple of times and there are plenty of buddhists that consider their belief a religion. Because religions aren't simply based on the belief of god, but creation itself. How we came to be.

Both Science and Religion have answers (theories) for that particular question, so it makes them both the same.
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but science provides proof and evidence for a LOT of things. science also has theories... but religion is ALL belief.. not even theories.. for it to be a theory there has to be even just a small amount of evidence. i would rather pick the one that has actually had evidence and proof than the one that has absolutely nothing.

Evolution has A LOT of evidence all over the world and has even been observed in bacteria but it is not enough to get it beyond a theory.
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op i am sorry but you are talking out your ass the purpose of the christian is to work at being the best he can be so when it our time to die we die with no fear in knowing we are going to meet our lord and god that is why the lord gave us something no other living thing has and that is the right of choice not an animal instinct like a dog but a choice between right and wrong between knowing and ignoring you my freind are sadly mistaken he also gave us te strongest will to live and the will to fight for what is right
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you know humans are animals right?

also u just swore, you are going to hell now i am sorry

unless u beg for forgiveness...

which also means u can go murder people then beg for forgiveness.. and still get into heaven.. what an amazing religion u have
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You can murder people and don't care about it at all if you don't get caught.

And that's better?
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your religions priests rape little boys then ask for forgiveness... the pope allows this and probably does it himself.... i will never support any religion.
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By the way show me one Atheist that doesn't believe in science.
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everyone believes in science... i said athiesm has nothing to do with science... if u dont believe in science then by your logic your computer should not be working
 Quoting: Chris Hansen


Your logic is so twisted and dumb lol. It's just black and white, dualism at it's best.

I don't believe in science, because science is merely a way of trying to describe understand what happens on this plane of existence.

It's like the alphabet or numbers - we use them everyday in order to explain certain things, but they don't truly hold any value and could be easily replaced with a different structure.

Atheism has everything to do with science, because it was created out of science you dumb piece of shit. According to your logic, without science, atheism couldn't even exist. Because why do atheists have a disbelief in god ? Because science implies that. Simple fact.

I've been to Asia a couple of times and there are plenty of buddhists that consider their belief a religion. Because religions aren't simply based on the belief of god, but creation itself. How we came to be.

Both Science and Religion have answers (theories) for that particular question, so it makes them both the same.
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but science provides proof and evidence for a LOT of things. science also has theories... but religion is ALL belief.. not even theories.. for it to be a theory there has to be even just a small amount of evidence. i would rather pick the one that has actually had evidence and proof than the one that has absolutely nothing.

Evolution has A LOT of evidence all over the world and has even been observed in bacteria but it is not enough to get it beyond a theory.
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Cute.

Plenty of religions also have evidence, you just haven't researched the topic enough. I bet you haven't read one religious book until the end, nor have you researched and kind of historical evidence connected to religions. (According to your logic.)

I've done exactly that and while I don't believe in a religion that surrounds this existence, I do believe that is something everything is connected to.

You've just admitted that science is nothing else but a religion, even if it has a better presentation than most other religions, it's still the same. And since Atheism can't exist without Science, it's a religion.

Simple as that.
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This is a good thread that demonstrates how people emotionally lock themselves into ideas that surround words.

Evolution is a genetic change.

Or...

Everything in the universe evolves.

Religion is only a belief in a God.

Or...

Religion is something that two or more people choose to willingly believe in.


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if there is no god, we have a purpose... to become a strong powerful race that can beat the aliens up. because right now the aliens could probably kill us with laser beams that come out of their ass

and if there was a god... there would be no purpose of life... (because Jesus is apparently coming to save us all so we may as well not do anything and just sit here and wait like the Christians are already doing instead of helping the world)
 Quoting: Chris Hansen


Dont you find your hate of the God of Israel and Jesus disturbing? All your threads and comments seem to be dedicated to discrediting Jesus Christ. Maybe you should take a long look at this anger you have towards God and decide why it's so powerful? I think you hate God/Jesus because they are real, and you are not able to deal with this fact with your current spiritual state. Otherwise, why do you even bother to the degree that you do? Why do you spend so much time trying to discredit the Bible? Either you're an occultist with a hidden agenda or you're legitimately furious with God and you dont know why.





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